The first floor of the Convention Center here in washington, dc, is Thomas Friedman, thank you for being late. You did an hour presentation earlier. Almost like a ted talk. Guest is that good or bad . Host it was good but in case anyone didnt see it, in a nutshell, how do market forces, moores law and Mother Nature all come together . Guest well, the core theme of the book is were the world is not just changing, its being reshaped. And being reshaped by three simultaneous accelerations. What i call the market, Mother Nature and moores law. The market for me is in digital globalization. But everything is being digitized and globalized by facebook or amazon or pay pal. On a graph looks like a hockey stake. Mother nature is Climate Change and population growth in the developing world. Looks like a hockey stick, and moores laud says the speed and power of microchips will double every 24 months. Now closer to 30. On a graph looks like a hockey stick. Were in monday ol of the the hockey stick accelerations and theyre resaming the work place, geopolitics, ethics and common. Host are the cooperating, conflicting . They good to together. Moores law, drives more globalization, so more technology and mow solutions. 2027488200 in the east and central time zone. 748. 8201 in the mountain and pacific time zones. Mr. Friedman. 2007 was a year that you brought up. One thing you brought up is that nearly half the world has a personal computer in heir hand now. Guest roughly half of the world is connected with some sort of smart device, and im sure within ten years its going to be virtually everybody. Once that happens, basically, you get a lot of changes. You get a very interesting change around education and learning bus basically with this acceleration, the single most competitive advantage is lifelong learning, the days when you can go to college for four years and dine out for 30 is over. How to what you launch in your first year may by outdated by four fourth year. So people who are lean into lovelong learning can have an enormous advantage and the wiggest divide will not be the Digital Divide because everyone will be on the internet. The biggest will be who has the selfmotivation to take up the opportunities that learning opportunities, that custom opportunities, engagement opportunities of the internet. Thats why one of my teachers in at the book says never ask your kid you want to be. Only ask your kid how you want to be. With youve have an agile learning mindset, predisposed to lifelong learn using come 20302040, how were go going to look back at this period weary now . Guest one was alive when got aing berg invent it the Printing Press and some monk said to some priest, thats really cool. I dont have to write all these bibles out long hand. We can just stan them out. Were here at a similar moment. A phase of enormous acceleration in technology. Really is a difference of degree, a difference in kind. And i think its a new world and have to think about all these things differently. Politics, geopolitics, agent thicks, community, work place. Host lets have from adrian las vegas. Youre on with Thomas Friedman, please go ahead. Caller hello, mr. Freudman. I just finish wedding Thomas Franks book, listen liberal, and he takes you a little bit to task for insisting that education is the path to narrowing income inequality but you justen cant take a coal miner and send him to school and make million a software programmer. If liberals want to win elections, what recommendations do you have for better government policyies. Thats good good we. I didnt hear the hour. Host thomas frank, listen liberal. Guest right. Thats kind of a caricatureat you take every coal miner and turn him interest a software engineer. Thats a strawman. The point is not that we take every miner and turn them into soft engineers. The we is can you take a miner and give him a job as a smart technician working on a assembly line, take a miner and help him become a service worker, engage with people in multiple ways. Its ridiculous to think that well ask everyone to be software engineers. Theres so many job is call in any become stem jobs that combine science, technology, engineering, math, and human empathy. One of the things i write about dish did a column recently. We did a column called holiday panned hands to head to heart. We used to work with our labs for many centuries and then we machines we started working with our heads. Increasingly well work with our hearts. More and more jobs are about connecting people to people. Going from a coal mine store software engineer. This is going to be huge number of jobs involving people to people skills. And we need to think about those every bit as much. Host another column was from afghanistan. But you talk about President Trump in that. He has become such a part of our national conversation, youre even writing about him from afghanistan in a sense. Guest well, the column i wrote was actually came out the time of the charlottesville incident, and i happened to be traveling at the time with the chief on the u. S. Air force and the air force secretary and i couldnt help but look around at the people i was traveling with in northeast, visiting the middle east, and visiting u. S. Bases there, the air force secretary is a woman, her exec officer is an africanamerican lieutenant colonel, their guard is a latino american. The chief of the air force command in qatar is ameanan. He deputy is his chief of intel is yang. Thats the real america, made it great. Having a president who appreciates that, i think is very, very important. We are who we are because we can make out of many into one, and the middle east is what it is today, is because they cant make out of many, one. Host is it as a columnist, is it tough to resist what is going on at the white house . Guest very good question. We see behavior that is so egregious. Never had a president who locked at a enemy mon straights of White Supremacists and neonazis and said theres good people on both sides. So, its hard to resist writing about these kinds of excesses. At the same time i do not want to look bat four years from now and say i only wrote about donald trump. He wasnt learning but a trump will make you stupid, suck all your brains out. If you think and write about him all the time. Host we are talking with New York Times columnist, Thomas Friedman, about mission become thank you for being late. About glen is calling from freeland, michigan. Youre on book tv. Duvery much. If i may, because im a trump voter, i think he gets a bad rap. He did totally condemn to the socalled neonazi, white nationalists, what war. Think he was referring to more bradley the confederate debate about the statues and symbols and all that. But theres reasonable people on both sides of that. And the reason charlottesville was all painted as White Supremacists and neonazis and all that is because we never had a chance to find out who the speakers really were on that side. They were closed down by the everyone free speech people before they even had a chance to speak. But anyway, let me ask you the question. Im told that my call has been about. Its about iranment i know iran is a bad regime full of howl cast deniers and terrorists. Whats your opinion on the Iran Nuclear Deal . Do you think President Trump should stay in it or not . Thank you very much. Guest well, its an important question, and thank you. This was not a perfect deal. Im not sure perfect was on the menu. Maybe we could have gotten a little better deal itch dont know. But at this stage i think its very important. The fact is iaeia says iran is holding up the deal. In 15 years they will not be able to develop a Nuclear Weapon and if it tries to we can take the necessary steps and isolate iran and compared to that we have already got the problem with north korea. We wouldnt want that problem in stereo where both north korea and iran are hurtling, making Nuclear Weapons so i think at this stage, not perfect, perfect not on the menu, id stay in the deal. Host gene, maryland. Good ahead. Caller good afternoon, mr. Friedman. Thank you for your nice lecture on your book. Theres a piece of good news that might be of value. China has a huge air pollution problem and mitt may just have come up with a substantial solution that will help them in a very fundamental way. That is in a report done on under the us a speak sis of dr. Ortiz, the former secretary of defers depth of energy under obama, he did a study in 2011 of a group about to do with the future of natural gas and found out one of the major conclusions was use natural gas to produce methanol as a practical fuel that is less polluting than gasoline and diesel fuel for trucks. The bottom line is, m. I. T. Engineers came out and produced two very efficient engines, one for cars and even perhaps more important one, for trucks, and sure enough, china has again full blast, galley auto of china announced theyre producing methanol engines for trucks which in their two paragraph announcement they its the only methanol engine authorized by m. I. T. Host gene, can you wrap this up . Caller right. Our technical people can help china and also, methanol can be made from carbon carbon dioxidee a solve the problem. Use it forking me until a. Host well here it there. Guest im not familiar with that technology but i know theres enormously exciting stuff going on in that field, and if that technology is being produced by m. I. T. Now and being scaled by china, thats a good thing for the world. We all bring the same air. Host well, Thomas Friedman, whats the connection between three of your books, the electric husband and olive trial, the world is flat and thank you for being late. Guest thats a really good question, peter. In some ways, im really writing about the same issue, and its the tension really is that lexus, knowledge, framework. The tension between the thing that anchor is, which is call olive trees, family, commune, region, place, language, faith. Those thing that anchor us in the world, and all these new technologies that on the one hand destabilize us, but on the other hand give us enormous tools in order to make the world better or more efireworkly and the question is how to get those things in balance. When localization and globalization are in balance, you get what is called harmonization, when theyre no in balance, penal feel their community their things that anchor them in the world are being destabilized by technology and acceleration, then you get the disruptive politic wed see today. What all these books are about is how to understand the forces and keep our lexus and our olive tree, the thinks that anchor news the world, that give us security, give us warmth, give us connections, at the same time and balance those with all of these new technologies and the power and opportunities they give us. Whats what im writing about. Host theres a fear factor. Guest there is fear out there because when you good to Grocery Store and some communities and you see the cashier and she is not bearing a baseball cap. Speaking a hawk you dont a language you dont understand and then go foe mens room and maybe someone of a different gender and you go to your office and you boss just rolled up a robot next to your desk and seems to be studying your job, and its no wonder that people feel unmoored and unhand cored and if a candidate and politician comes along and says i can stop the wind, a lot of people are going to be open to that idea. And so really what im writing about is that tension, that challenge. Thats what thank you for being late is all about. Thank you for being late is a book that celebrates pausing, anchoring, and being connected. Host there is the cover to the book. Allen in bluefield, west virginia, good afternoon to you. Youre on with Thomas Friedman. Caller mr. Friedman, i appreciate and applaud what you said about the golden rule and the need for morality, and im wondering if you are aware of the difference between an ipo, initial price offering on the stock that is just coming to market in order that a Company Raises money and creates jobs, and a regular stock purchase, in which money is simple my transferred from one stock owner to another owner, who byes that stock with the idea that its going to go up and hes going to make money so with handicapping horses, or gambling in other ways, and i dont feel should have the same kind of a tax advantage, the Capital Gains advantage applied to both now. Guest its a very interesting question. Theres no doubt that with online trading now, theres a lot of people just rent stocks for an hour, a day, a week, or a month, and the they arent longterm investors and that puts pressure on companies to to think short term and that tends to lead to less sound decisionmaking over the long run. So, anything that encouraging people to be longterm individual investors, that encourages companies to be longterm actual investors, thats a net good thing. Host at the same time, its not going to change back to what it was before. Guest thats true. We are where we are and so the question is really you have companies now that in recent months, at t is one of them, were not going to give quarterly guides. Well tell you where were going. You want to join us, join us. Were not going to give you every quarter guidance, predicts, did we meet it or not. Neats way to make good, healthy, stable, longterm decisionmaking. Host next call from cynthia, old bridge, new jersey. Youre on booktv. Please go ahead. Caller hello, mr. Friedman. I had heard you speak and you talk about lifelong learning, and i agree with that completely, but i am 63 years old and i have a lot of trouble with dealing with the computers and i live on a fixed income of less than 1,100 a month, and i have tried to learn teach myself and i just dont have anyone to help me. How do you direct people like me with fixed incomes and not the technology didnt grow up with the technology and to learn these things and to be able to continue, because its really hard. Even to getdeal with doctors and medical professionals. Host cynthia, before we get an answer, are you do you think youre willing or do you think youre resistant to this new technology . Caller well, im willing. Would like to be able to be a part of it, because its holding me back, i feel. Host thank you, maam. Guest thats a really profound and important question. Thank you for calling in with that. Theres a couple of things i would say. One is i would look into see whether youre local library has courses, just basic kind of introduction to computers and online. And the other thing id encourage you is if you have a computer this is not hard to find go to a site called con academy, and its a wonderful introduction both to math but also history programs and i think youll fine its extremely user friendly. And there are lot of things jacques. Put into your computer, Free Education courses and scroll down. Youll be amassed what youll find. If even sore of managing the basic of computer, totally understand that is difficult, check out your local library, your local Adult Learning services. I bet there are courses you could take that would be a great introduction for someone like yourself, but your question is very important. Thank you for sharing it. Host as someone who writes for a legacy newspaper, how is your life changed in the last ten years or so because of technology . Guest well, first time i was on cspan with brian lamb called for a pool called beirut to jerusalem. Had a physical researcher who sat next to me. Gave him assignments and he went to the library and got the answers. With my new book, this one, thank you for being late, had a amazing researcher. Her name was google. She never asked me a question. She worked 24 7 36 5. She was free and found every answer. And that is really the difference, and not only did i have google, i, found now i could simply ask a question like what kind of audience does cspan have . And is cspan in the become business . How long but what kind of people call in to cspan . And it would take me to sociological studies of your audience. That assistant google is getting deeper and richer all the time. Host last call for Thomas Friedman from a vet in carmichael, california. Go ahead. Caller im 76 years old. Why should i buy an iphone . Guest good one. You know, let me just say, one 0 of my favorite lines is from a friend who says, when you press the pause button on a computer it stops. But when you press the pause button on the human being it starts. Thats when it starts to reflect, rethink and reimagine. Was just on a trip to middle east where with the head of the u. S. Air force anden on the two days before the end of the trip ilift my phone on a helicopter sew didnt have my phone for the last two days of the trip. They were the best two days of the trip. Was paying attention to everybody. I was listening to everybody. I wasnt trying to take a picture of everything. I wasnt scrolling my email, and so god bless you. Trust me, you may want to it for
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