Transcripts For CSPAN Washington Journal 08102020 20240712

Also, an update on congress a reliefo pass package. Also we will take your calls, and you can join the conversation on facebook and twitter. Washington journal good morning. As monday, august 10, 2020. Election day and one week until the start of the democratic convention. It is crunch time until joe biden will announce who will join him on the democratic ticket. Will open our phone line to democrats only get your thoughts on who joe biden should pick as his running mate. Democrats in the eastern and central time zones can call in, 2027488000 democrats in the pacific timezone, 2027488001. You can also send us a text. Andse include your name where you are from. Also catch up with us on social media. cspanwj. Democrats only can start calling now. We hear from you about which woman should appear with joe biden on the democratic ticket this fall. Phone lines are on your screen. Cnn editor this from at large his final Vice President rankings, his top five on the most likely picks are. Number five, california congresswoman karen bass. Number four, tammy duckworth. Number three, minnesota michigan governor Gretchen Whitmer. Number two, susan rice, and number one, senator Kamala Harris. That is so he thinks is the most likely choice for joe biden to choose as his Vice President if he were to win the vice presidency. This is what he writes about senator harris. I have done these rankings topy week and she is not a the charts because she has the best combination of skills, has charismatic is a charismatic debater, and would be an historic pick is the first africanamerican and indianamerican take on the ticket. She has drawbacks her record as attorney general in california is ripe for the picking and her performance as a candidate is worrisome, but not it all out and harris still makes the most sense for joe biden. A brief exchange with a reporter near his ronald beach house in democraticresumptive nominee joe biden gave no indication yesterday morning whether he has come to a decision on his running mate, simply asking are you ready to that reporter. Alreadyton post has committed her time to raising cash one picked. The woman will be holding a grassroots fundraiser and hold a woman for biden women for biden fundraiser event. Bidens calendar also filling up. On thursday, he will headline a fundraiser with muslim americans, and on the first day of the National Convention he will opaque appear on a virtual fundraiser with House Speaker nancy pelosi. Democrats only, who should joe biden pick as his running mate. Tyrone up first out of new york city. Good morning to you. Caller thank you. Thanks for taking my call. I think he should pick susan rice. She is very intelligent and kick bull of being the president. She did a good job. They made up this whole thing against her with this benghazi situation. They will bring that back up again as if she went out and killed thent out and dignitary that got killed out there. She is a good person and she knows the job. He is not pulling from the senate. Took senator harris or Elizabeth Warren, we would have to have someone who fills those seats. Susanlly he will take rice. Attitude isstic alive and well. We have to overcome that and voter suppression. Hopefully we get through all of that, we win the election command susan rice becomes the Vice President. Host obviously you want him to pick susan rice. How important is it for joe biden to not just pick a woman, but to pick an africanamerican woman . Forer it is very important him to pick can american woman. The women pulled his but out of the fire, and ive can americans in general. We need to know that we are recognized in this country as a voting force that can change the direction that this country is going in and we should be by ourated and rewarded dedication to this country and what happens in this country. That is why i think he should pick an africanamerican woman, and women are so much smarter than men. I have to say that. They are very capable. It is just the fact that we believe that the only people that can obtain the things in this country are white men. We are culturally conditioned to believe that, and that is why we are in the predicament we are in right now. So many people believe that only donald trump because he told us only he can do this, and people actually believe that, not recognizing that women are more important than we give them credit for. Host tyrone out of new york city this morning. This is the opinion page of usa with the headline a woman Vice President is the least biden can do. Heres what they write about women voters in relation to joe biden. Women are the ones that are brought biden to power for as many decades of Public Service. In 1990 he won reelection with 66 of delaware women supporting him compared with 58 of support for men. 15 point later, a percentage cap emerged. It was women, and more suspense specifically black women, that proved the most reliable voters that sent barack obama and biden to the white house in 2008 and 2012. When black women voters call for a return on their investment, it is important to recognize their rights and her investment has been a Democratic Party and biden specifically. Rick is next. A democrat out of boston. Good morning. Caller good morning. I think they should pick harris from california. I think she can do the job, basically. Host why do you think she can do the job . Caller i have seen her on the campaign trail and the debates. I think she could do the job. As i looked at the republican side, the Vice President , this guide is not say anything. Trunk just doodles all over him. He wears a mask when Donald Trump Tells him to wear a mask and this guy not saying anything, this guy acts like he wants to be the president after trump. You have two clowns in the white house. Host bring it back to the Democratic Party. Joe biden would be 78 if you were elected and when he assumes office. How important is age in his Vice President ial pick . Center, harris, 55 years old. Caller age is a factor. Ae with knowledge, but not acting stupid, like donald trump on people not to wear masks. Youk about experience have some out here time enough to wear a mask, and everyone is wears themask he jacket. You have sick people, and this guy is Walking Around different buildings talking about going into any building. It is like him talking about i can shoot anyone and get away with the pivot that is what he is doing to this country. Host judy in brooklyn. Caller good morning. I choose susan rice and could because she has had the experience of working with barack obama and joe biden for the last eight or 12 years, and i think that she would be able to step into the office and run the country effectively if mr. Biden is unable to continue because of his age. I think he will be fine, but i think susan rice has the knowledge, experience, the poise, and just to be able to work with all the World Leaders that clearly donald trump does not possess, and that is my comment. Host the New York Times with their wrapup of potential vp picks. This is what they write about susan rice. Serving with biden in the Obama Administration for eight years, and their working relationship 1990s wheno the rice was assistant secretary of was on the Foreign Relations committee. Her International Experience would leave no doubt she is ready for the most sensitive parts of the job that she has in a National Campaign in the learning curve can be steep. This is one of the quotes from her i am humbled and honored to be among the accomplishment being considered in that regard. New york times with that wrapup coming this past weekend. Joe biden originally said he would announce by august 1, but according to some reports, aides saying is coming this week. Would have to come by the democratic National Convention. Carolyn is next out of charlotte, North Carolina. Good morning. Caller good morning. I would like to see joe biden take Gretchen Whitmer, the michigan governor. I am a napkin american female, but i am an African American female, but it is important to me to have someone that could step into that position if something did happen to the Vice President , and i think it would be a very strong ticket. Michigan is a state that we need. So, yet, my vote is for the michigan governor, Gretchen Whitmer. Host that executive experience as governor is a key factor here for you . Caller it definitely is a key factor. She has been very effective with the covid response, and i think that type of experience is important, as well as the criminal justice changes that she has put through in michigan. I used to live in detroit. I have family and friends there. I get firsthand what she is doing and it is very positive. I think she would make a positive addition to the ticket. Host carolyn, is age a factor for you . Gretchen whitmer is 40 years old. A factor. Is also a big factor, she is authentic, genuine, something i dont see with senator harris, and it bothers me. I hear a number of people say that she is the choice, and i definitely respect to senator, but i do not find her authentic. Candidate and a she did not get a lot of votes. It worries me that she may not be able to win a ticket in 2024 if the president , you know, cannot continue, and acting commissioner gun michigan governor has passion. She is a governor. And she is authentic. Thank you. BeganGretchen Whitmer serving as governor in the 2019,ing of last year, and democrats in much of the country learning more about her since she delivered the democratic response to Donald Trumps state of the union dress in february. Jim in spencer, North Carolina. Your next. Caller it is a twopart answer. I do not think, harris will be Kamala Harris will be selected vp. I hope he will put her to the side and let her be the supreme justice nominee. My vote would be barbara lee i like how she has stood up to the left and the right in the decision to go to war. That plays a lot in me being a veteran. Host you concerned about the congresswoman not having the National Reputation of a after her harris Kamala Harris after her president ial campaign and being in the spotlight after that . Someone i am, but i think barack obama did not have National Attention until he got in there. It concerns me, but i like the fact that she would stand up for what is right, not going to war, and who we are 20 years later, still at war. Caller that is jim in spencer, North Carolina. Democrats only democrats in the central and eastern time. One, 2027488000 in the mountain and pacific time zones, 2027488001. Asking simply who should joe biden pick as his running mate. Many expecting it to come in the next coming days, perhaps even today. Roy in melbourne, florida. Caller yes, i think the pick hands down should be Kamala Harris. Host and why is that . Lost the caller this morning, but on senator harris getting the attention of the New York Times in a very long story that begins on the front page this morning. The headline is a top cop now a reformer wrestling with headlineecord is the there. The article notes that as a leading contender, this harris has emerged as a strong voice on the issues of Police Misconduct that sam 2 seem to be certain as part of her campaign but in her own president ial run she struggled to clarify her calls for reform with her long history in law enforcement. An examination of that record shows how mens harris was far more miss harris was far more resident in another time. Since becoming attorney general in 2011 she avoided intervening in killings by police of protesters and flyers were distributed. The story goes on to say amid the national rh stoked by the 2014 killing of michael ferguson, there were police please, but she did not step in except the next ordinary circumstances and said it was not her job. If you want to read more on that story, the front page of New York Times. Robert is next. Caller good morning, sir. Think to say this, but i this is how america will react if mr. Biden selects one of those women, especially in africanamerican woman. We are a racist society. How does mr. Trump get 64 Million People to vote for him if he selects africanamerican woman, it will be a greater landslide than mondaleferraro. Host who would you pick . Caller general james mattis, to be honest, because for the past 20 years we had a volunteer army. Citizens,icans, as have not had skin in the game as far as a draft. It has been 1 of our people men and women that have served in wars. On their else can go merry way with the economy, thinking it is the economy, stupid, and these men and women have been suffering and dying for us, going to iraq, which was a total mistake by george w. Input i hopeocrat it is a sweep for congress and a senate. Totally were wrong, wrong, especially in this time and date with what happened with mr. Floyd and what has happened with africanamericans iroughout our history, but believe it might be the right move morally, but politically will be the wrong move for mr. Biden. I hate to say it. In webster, new york. Democrats can call him. We will step away from the veep stakes for just a minute to turn back to what we have been talking about for the last couple of weeks the latest on Coronavirus Relief legislation theturn to jennifer headline on the front page of roll call about the president signing those covid19 economic , not thetions president has signed them, where does that leave negotiations between Congressional Democrats and the love white house one and comes to a legislative package . Guest negotiations seem to have completely broken up. The last time Democratic Leaders, Steve Mnuchin and mark meadows that was on friday afternoon. That meeting did not go well according to either side that was in that meeting, so they are now not planning to meet again at this point in time. Congress also has left washington, d. C. , on its august recess so both chambers are not set to be back in session until after labor day. Unless there is a massive change in the negotiating stance from democrats or the Trump Administration, it seems like those talks are going to be on until at least september. Host nancy pelosi and Chuck Schumer dismissing the legality of the president s executive actions and saying they are not enough. Do they also signal any willingness for potential, ms. Murray comes to future talks . Guest i dont think so. Two of the biggest issues heading into the negotiations were federal and has been that is giving people an additional 600 per week to get through these lockdown orders and various Economic Issues that we have seen throughout the pandemic. They really did not want to move on that issue and that was a republicanfor negotiators. Democrats are also adamant that state and local governments need additional funding from the federal government to avoid a dropoff in Public Service and a layoff in public employees. Those are things it sounds like they did not get as many concessions from the administration if they wanted to. Then there are a lot of other issues in the negotiations around funding for education, food aid, and things like that. It sounds it there were still some issues on that. Host since the president signed those executive actions on saturday, over the weekend, where does that leave his negotiators here mark meadows and Steve Mnuchin . How much now do they have to defend what the president did as enough versus saying heres a we will give to do more to come to some sort of compromise . Does it change the negotiating position . It is not so far that will be interesting thing to see heading into september. One of the big deadlines were looking at is that end of the federal fiscal year at the end of september. That point in time, congress and the Trump Administration will need to work out some stopgap spending bill to avoid a partial Government Shutdown on october 1. There is a lot of expectation right now that when they start those talks all of those issues that remain unresolved on additional Coronavirus Relief could come into play again and there might be negotiations again in september. Democrats really want to see the day the Trump Administration come up in their funding level for Coronavirus Relief. It sounds like they were staying between 1 trillion in 2 trillion, and democrats want to see above 2 trillion from their perspective. So, that is one of the ongoing issues. Democrats really want to see more than the 150 billion in state and local aid that admonition and meadow offer and and Steve Mnuchin and mark meadows offer and they want to see a continuation of the benefits of the 600 per week level. Host if there is some sort of breakthrough this week or soon, where is the most likely to come from . Who will you be watching . Guest i think it will be speaker loc and Senate Minority leader Chuck Schumer that have to come back to the administration with an offer. To them, doing the executive order has put the ball back into democrats court. They are saying what we have done for now. From what i understand of everything set on the sunday shows in their understanding of the legality of the executive orders, they think they have done what they can for now, and until democrats come back with an offer, it sounds like trump the Trump Administration is done for now. Host shutt, thank you 4 jennifer shutt, thank you for joining us. Guest thank you for having me. Host spending the first hour talking to democrats only. Foment split up regionally. 2027488000 if you are a democrat in the central or eastern time zones. 2027488001 if you are a democrat in the mountain or pacific time zones. Mohammed is out of huntsville, texas. Good morning. Youre next. Caller good morning. My choice for Vice President among the people is not limited to one you just talked about. My choice is Stacey Abrams because she seems to be more genuine when she is making a presentation. Everyone else is either a lawyer or old, how can i said, government employees, which im a retired government employee, but Stacey Abrams is my choice. Host what makes her genuine . Her presentation, her amount of knowledge, in most important, her age she is a new thinker in the africanamerican community. I am from the jesse jackson, Martin Luther king era. Eighttime to man in vietnam. That is neither here nor there. She is genuine. They brought her from georgia and she was in washington for what reason i think she is a solid person who will be selected. Host Stacey Abrams, one of the youngest the of those being considered. Just 46 results. A few comments from social media and our tweet service, including this from fern of michigan believing it should be Stacey Abrams or congressman karen bass. Harris for attorney general is what fern notes. Two of these impressive women are my pick susan rice and tammy duckworth. Host this from chris in virginia one more from sandy host michael is next out of lindenhurst, new york. Caller good morning. How are you . Host i am doing well. Caller i have a comment. The p,re going to pick a and for the qualifications, not for their color. Thank you. Host who has the best qualifications . Caller Elizabeth Warren. That should be good enough. I like her. Host we lost the caller. Wendy in roseville, michigan. Caller good morning. How are you doing . Host i am doing well. Caller my choice is my governor, Gretchen Whitmer. Thatas shown the firmness she needs when she has to go up against the Republican Legislatures when they try to fight her on executive orders. She is firm. She is honest. She has done a good job as our governor. I would think that she would do very well with senator biden. I voted for trumpian 2016, biggest mistake i ever made. I want biden, and if they could move the election to tomorrow, i would vote for him immediately, trumpe trumpet is not is not i have completely lost trust in him and i think biden will do a job. With winter widmark, they will make a great team. Votedcannot ask why you trumpian 2016 . Hillaryi did not like and i felt for the story that he would be such a great leader, and all of a sudden now i just dont see that and i think biden will be a better leader. He will be more understanding to the people. He will listen to us, where trump doesnt. Host Gretchen Whitmer, less than two years in her term as governor. The think she needs more seasoning in that position . Caller not necessarily, no. She has had to put up with a lot of republican obstacles with and she hasders stood her ground it makes the decisions, and i think she is doing ok. We would hate to lose her as governor, but i think if she helps biden as Vice President , i think she would do a good job. Host wendy, thank you for the call. Stephanie next out of highland, california. Good morning. Caller good morning, cspan. I think the joe biden should pick Elizabeth Warren. I think that she already has plans and order. I think she would consolidate the democratic vote with the progressives, and i just think that would be his best for right now. Best pick for right now. Host roberts next out of cumberland, maryland. Good morning. , sir, andod morning thanks for having me on the show. I would like to say first of all i am an African American, and it is very important to me that the Vice President picks an africanamerican as a running mate, and a woman, a black woman. I like the senator from california. I forget her name. Host senator Kamala Harris. Caller yes. I think she would be an excellent choice, and right now in the moment of social justice reform, that we see an africanamerican sitting in the white house, and perhaps that could be something that is delegated to them. More importantly, the Democratic Party cannot win a National Election without the africanamerican, in particular, female vote, and i will not vote for the president of the United States, i will not vote for biden if he does not take a black woman for the vice presidency of the United States. I will go down ticket democrats, but i will not vote. The black woman in this nation 1as carried this nation for 40 years and they deserve an opportunity to sit on the Second Highest Office in this nation, and i think it would be a really good thing to help bring together this country with all of the racial amatrice going on. This would be a signal to the world that yes, we are again this journeyd with for full equality for all american citizens. That is my position. Thank you so much for allowing me never charted to express it. Host have you ever left the president s spot vacant on a ballot before . Caller no. Host mitsubishi first time . Caller yes, absolutely. I voted for clinton. Her. Not want to vote for i was offended with her super predator remarks and totally taken aback by the crime bill that her husband signed to placate the Republican Legislature and that turned me against them very much, but because of the idiot that was running, i voted for clinton, even though i live in maryland, it is pretty much a shooin for the democratic nominee with the maryland electorate. State,a solid democratic though we have an excellent republican governor, which is off subject. Then this is what i would like to see i think biden will be able to serve one term, then whoever the lady is will be able to serve we will run her for a second term and then a white woman be a Vice President. Lets let women run things for a while. Men have screwed this up for 401 years. Lets let women power take over and see if we cannot Better Things in this country with new ideas and a new point of view for america. Host since we are talking hypotheticals, what we think if larry hogan ever ran for president . Caller that is a tough one. Governor hoganw because i used to work for the family and did some personal security and driving. I like hogan, but i dont know. Host could you ever vote for him . Caller i voted for him for him inr, and i voted for a second term. In Governor Hogan is going to be the new face of the Republican Party because the Republican Party is going to have to change. They are going to have to get rid of these idiots these far right wing idiots and change that part of so they can bring in other minorities. Minorities are not going to go to that party right now, and i think Governor Hogan has an opportunity to reshape that party and make that party more inclusive. I like Governor Hogan. I know him. I have been at manys fundraiser and he has always shown me the utmost courtesy and respect and i think he is doing a heckuva job for the state of maryland. That is the shining light for the public and party. Host robert, to work for the call out of cumberland, maryland this morning. Talking to democrats only, asking your thoughts on who joe biden should take as his running mate. Tim. Alabama. Good morning. Youre next. Good morning. I am calling about joe bidens pick for vp. I like susan rice. She has been with the obama and Biden Administration for eight years. She knows washington, and she is a very smart lady. Is biden, ier thing other blackeel any women. He is going to pick the governor of michigan. For two reasons he is reason is he says going to pick someone he feels comfortable with. Biden, as far as i can go back and remember, he has been a segregationist, and he is going to feel more comfortable with a white person next to him then he would with a black one. Host why do you say he is a segregationist . Caller well, the reason why i say that is because, one, Kamala Harris pointed it out when she questioned him about busing. He has the Hyde Amendment he , which is fort black women with pregnancies you you know, when they have babies. Which, torime bill, me, is the worst bill that has been passed in over 200 years against blacks because there are more blacks in prison, and those blacks they come out of prison they are denied the right to vote. President , vote for mayor, or governor that is mass incarceration. Really, when you look at it, mass voter suppression. I was not going to vote for biden at all, but since he was and he has a chance to pick a black woman to be his running mate, i will vote for him if he does that. If he dont do that, ive spoken to many friends of mine, and just like the gentleman who was on before, i will not vote. I will sit out. And i have been voting since john f. Kennedy. Caller and you say it should be host and you shake you say it should be susan rice. Caller susan rice. Host thank you. On susan rice, an interview with headlinentic, the this is what susan rice feared par feared. If you want to read that extent the interview it is in the atlantic. Here is one of the questions she was asked what did her expense in the white house teacher about the way politics, cable news and the media work here is her answer, for the republicans to be harping on benghazi in 2020 one donald trump has watched three americans killed on a u. S. Military base in florida, last year, in a terrorist attack inspired by al qaeda what appears to be the first foreigndirected terrorist attack on the u. S. Soil since 9 11, because the Defense Department host susan rice in that interview with the atlantic, if you want to read it. The headline of that story, this is exactly what susan rice feared. Ohio. You are next this morning. Caller if you want joe biden to lose the president ial election, pick a black woman. I guarantee host why do you say that. Whoer i agree with the man called from new york i agree with most of what he said from new york, but the winning combination in my opinion would and the mayor of new york, bill de blasio. He is a white man, and he is competent. It is not about the race, black folks. If you want him to win the election, pick the person can help him win. Caller do you think there is any woman that could help him when host do you think there is any woman that could help him win . Caller no. None of them. I said bill de blasio should be the vp. Host why is that the best nomination . Caller because he is competent. He is competent. As a mayor, he is good. He is capable. It doesnt have to do with the color of his skin. You want somebody who is competent, who can help biden win the election. Why do you think Gretchen Whitmer, susan rice, Kamala Harris caller i am not talking about their capabilities. I am talking about winning who people will vote for. That man was right about race. I will not repeat what he says. This is a racial society. Dont be naive. If you want him to win. Pick a person who can help him win. Host did you think barack obama could win . Caller sure he could win. Host were we a racist society than . Caller i am talking against donald trump. We are talking about against donald trump. Biden cannot win against donald trump if he picks a black woman. You mark my words. They will lose the election if they pick a woman, particularly a black woman. They had better vote if they know what is good for them. Host beverly in ohio. Catherine in illinois. Good morning. You are next. Caller good morning. I think he should pick Condoleezza Rice, who is the president of stanford. Secretary ofmer state. She is very smart, very poised, competent, but i dont think he will pick her. Do you think she would run on a democratic ticket . Caller she would run on a democratic ticket. She would help biden unite the country. That is just Wishful Thinking on my part. Think he will pick Kamala Harris. She is very competent, very bright, but we need someone to get rid of all of this bickering i am a democrat, i am a republican, he would neutralize that by picking Condoleezza Rice. She is a dynamic woman. That would be my suggestion to but she probably would over shine in in many ways because she is so very articulate, just like Kamala Harris she is very articulate and would present so many cases of here is what is going on here is how we should handle it, and you could sit there and listen to them. I fear, and this is my only thing against biden i love biden, he will make it, but he does not have the voice, he does not articulate a long he is not an orator like obama was. We will live with it. It will be good, but that would be my choice, Condoleezza Rice. Host before you go. Bernie sandersk supporters and Elizabeth Warren supporters would feel about a Condoleezza Rice pick . Caller i did not think about that, but how would we unite this country if he would pick someone from the other side to say im here to bring all of you republicans, you democrats to help solve the myriad of Serious Problems we have and they would bring the parties together. That is all. A uniting moment. Host thank you for the call. Kenneth in arkansas. Youre next. Good morning. What joe biden has done he has boxed themselves in this is the first mistake he has made. He shouldve never said he would limited to a woman because i will tell you what will happen the other woman that spoke about if he picks a black woman, he will lose the race, she is right. I will tell you what will happen. If he picks a black woman, if he gets in there, when the manblicans run a white against that a woman, she will be out in four years. They are not looking at the big picture. All of these black women are very qualified, but donald trump pulled the scab off of this problem here in america about race. It did not start with donald trump and this is 400 years of racism, and if he picks that black woman, like that lady said, he will probably lose the election. If you doesnt lose the election, in four years, do you think america is going to vote for a black woman as president of these United States in four years you are dreaming. It is not going to happen. Im going to tell you we needs to pick Elizabeth Warren is the one that he needs to pick. He shouldve never boxed himself in when he said he was going to pick a woman. If you are playing politics, you do not box yourself in like that. Caller as a democrat, did you vote for Hillary Clinton in 2016 . Yes, i did, and i would vote for her again, but a black woman donald trump, after eight years ofbarack, that onethird america were so messed up Mitch Mcconnell said my Main Objective is to make him a oneterm president. They were plotting and scheming how to get him out of there for eight years. You think you can put a black woman in there and she is going to be president after four years . You are dreaming. Host kenneth in arkansas. A little bit more from the opinion page that piece in and debbiey walsh, who serves as associate director for macula man politics. A womane of the piece the p is the least biden can do. Here is how they start the piece. This years nominees will join a small they and their piece today by writing that we should be cautious about celebrating the decision to nominate a woman. That is the least joe biden can do. Mike is in laurel, maryland. Good morning. Youre next. Caller hello you doing . How are you doing . Host i am doing well. Caller to speak and what your callers were saying about having a black woman running mate, and i think they forget and i think this is showing respect to your callers because they are older than me, but we did have a black president who people said would have no chance of winning the white house and he was elected to a second term. Just to pull down the idea of having a black woman in the white house is playing into the same racism they are speaking against. Candidate would be val demings, because val demings has a lengthy history working in the Police Department , and we are facing Serious Police reform and she would be the best suited to assist biden with that reform. Host the congresswoman, former police chief in orlando, florida, and also served as one of the Democratic House members who argued the impeachment case against the president in the senate, but you think she has a national enough profile . Emerge i think she would to the surface she would gain more popularity, especially with conservative voters, because she is not to the point where she is saying scratch the police force, but reform it [indiscernible] a successful chief, and i believe under her guidance, it could be reformed without being scrapped or totally defunded. Host that is mike out of laurel, maryland this morning. Mike talking about some of the viewers comments some commentsallers about joe biden nominating and after an american woman. This is from the San Francisco chronicle from earlier this month from alicia garza, the cofounder of black lives matter this is what she had to say about that potential pick. Black communities in this past primary showed up and showed out to ensure cash denise is next out of michigan. Good morning. Caller good morning. Supportlike to offer my for susan rice and her wealth of experience to restore our standing on the world stage. Host denise, youre calling from michigan your thoughts on your governor there, Gretchen Whitmer . Caller you know what, she has done a great job standing up for people in all areas, and quite frankly i would support her, but i would hate to see her leave michigan. I am a state employee and i like her fighting for union rights. Host do you think she can do more there is governor than as Vice President . Caller well, i am supporting susan rice because im very aware of our diminished standing on the world stage and susan rice has a great deal of experience to bring to hopefully restore us. Host thanks for the call this morning. About 10 minutes left in this first segment of washington journal, and we will keep politicsbout 2020 where we will be joined by kyle kondik, managing editor of sabatos crystal ball. We will talk about the senate, the house, and the president ial election as well. That is coming up at the top of the hour. Later today, we will take up this topic the United States marking a grim milestone, the u. S. Hitting 5 million cases of covid19 tracking the numbers across the state. That from usa today. The u. S. Hit that milestone yesterday 5 million confirmed cases, more than 152,000 deaths. That might come just 17 days after the u. S. Reached 4 million cases. The u. S. Has the highest reported cases and discounts. The numbers on the map below here showing the latest theistics available sevenday, reported case count in the larger circle on the map the larger the circle, the larger the number of cases. Some 10,000eporting new cases in phoenix, arizona. Some 6000, 250 new cases. We will let you know that look at that map as we hear from our next caller, david, indianapolis, indiana, good morning, talking to democrats only who should joe biden pick as his running mate . Caller good morning. Thanks for having me on board. I think joe biden should pick the former prosecutor, Kamala Harris, and my reasoning is a. Ittle different than others one of the main jobs for joe biden, as far as i can see, is to restore the presidency to its former height. Degradation ofe ,he presidency by donald trump and it is going to take all four of fighting and removing the markers that donald trump has set up, including in the administration and what is now commonly known as the swamp. The swamp was not there initially, but it certainly is now. Removing it, we are going to need some strong, legal people, and a strong president that is going to be willing to and able to get rid of all of the Trump Administration, no matter how far down those roots or that wed grows. That will take a strong prosecutor, someone willing to help joe biden go after these people, and that is why i would choose Kamala Harris. Host do you think her experience as a former prosecutor versus a current United States senator is more important . Caller i think in this particular case because of the several things we need the presidency to be restored, it will make her prosecutorial experience much more prevalent and usable during the administration. Call david, thanks for the this morning. A few more comments from twitter and our text message service. This from riceong as it is not susan. She has too much baggage. She has the person republicans want why oblige them . Host harry. Hope mills, North Carolina. You are next. Caller my comment as i was joe biden had not said he would take a woman. I wish he would pick a male. I dont think his Vice President should be an africanamerican woman, but if i had to pick someone off of the list, i would pick Elizabeth Warren. Why Elizabeth Warren . Caller we are sane joe biden will probably die in office, and the Vice President take is very important, and we are also saying in my neighborhood we will vote for joe biden regardless of who is picked, but it think you would get more people to cross over if he picks a Elizabeth Warren instead of, say, Kamala Harris. Host you are concerned to him saying he is committed to begin a woman did you vote for Hillary Clinton . Caller right. What im saying is he put when he madebox that statement, and now he has to do someone if he does not take an afghan woman, i feel horrible for him regardless. Africanamerican woman, i feel we will vote for him regardless. Caller i am not going to take lump it he did not say he would pick a black woman. He said a woman. Republicanot of meetings. They cannot wait until joe biden picks a black woman because they know if he picks one, he will lose. Woman,s going to pick a they had better get Elizabeth Warren. Aboutblack men talking their not going to vote they dont know what they are going to talk about. If they get a black woman, he will lose. Thank you. Host you are a democrat, correct . Caller not really. Republicancrat and and i go to all the meetings were they invite me. I go to a lot of republican meetings. They talk about joe biden taking a black woman. They know she is not going to win can they want him to pick one. Beingo not worry about me there they think i am of them, so they can say what they want to say. That is what republicans want. They want a black woman because they know these men are not going to vote for a black woman. They know this. That is why they want him to pick one. I dont know why joe biden decided he is going to pick a woman anyway. If he is going to pick one, Elizabeth Warren has a better chance because st. Louis really want to. Host that is lily, in misery. Our last caller in this first missouri. Our last caller in the first segment of washington journal. We will be joined by the university of virginias sabatos crystal ball managing editor kyle kondik, and later, American Health association Georges Benjamin will join us talk about the latest in the fight against covid19 as the u. S. Has now passed 5 million cases. We will be right back. Announcer tonight on the communicators, American Economic liberty object executive director sarah miller and Baker Donelson on whether big tech is too big. There arent going to be more facebooks, more amazons, and more googles, because our policymakers have allowed these cancer corporations to amass an enormous amount of power over their respective markets to shut down competition and engage in preference a and predatory behavior. What i heard from those leaders of those businesses was the american Success Story and all the things theyre doing to tell our current economy thrive and grow and how to make america the most competitive ecosystem in the world. Announcer sarah miller and Barbara Comstock tonight at 8 00 eastern on the communicators on cspan2. Cspan has unfiltered coverage of congress, the white house, the supreme court, and Public Policy events. You can watch all the cspans Public Events programming on television, online, or listen on her free radio app and the part of the National Conversation through the daily washington journal programs or through our social media feeds. Cspan, created by americas Cable Television company as a Public Service and brought to you today by your television provider. Washington journal continues. Host with 85 days to go now before election day, 2020, we are joined once again by the crystal ball at the university of Virginia Center for politics. Lets start this morning in the battle for control of the senate three months out. If you had to pick a hand to play right now, would you rather be in the position of democrats or republicans . I think id rather be in the position of democrats at the moment. I think joe biden is in a better position than donald trump in the president ial race and we are president ialre results are not perfectly coordinated, but they have more bearing on each other then maybe a generation or two ago. In 2016, that was the first election ever in 100 years in which every state that had a senate race also voted for the same party for president. That is not guaranteed to happen this time, but it does show the president ial connection to the senate. The democrats are probably going , so theyut in alabama basically need at least four currently republican seats. The good thing for democrats is that i do think they look good in these four senate races. Arizona and colorado, they are probably out right there. I think they are probably better than 5050 in North Carolina and maine, two other republican seats. The tricky thing for democrats is once you get beyond those states, they have several other targets but none of them are as good of targets at the first four. Not, it is standing, maybe but those targets look pretty good for democrats, and obviously if youre winning the majority, you want to have 52, 53 if youve got a governing majority breaking ties. That means you need party unity in every vote. Host in terms of a potentially expanding senate snap, can you explain what a wave election is, and how we know when a wave election is happening . I dont know if theres necessarily a precise definition of wave elections, you kind of knowing when you see it. Certainly for democrats, 2008 was a wave election. 2018, maybe not. Being tested,y is but the democrats did pretty well for governorship. They ended up losing seats in the senate. A lot of that was a function of the seats being contested, and lot oftted and legislative seats. 2008,ear would look like and probably moving beyond those watch a republican targeted places and cutting into more republican turf. We look at senate targets like georgia, isa, actually two races in georgia. One is guaranteed to be a runoff in early january. Maybe some states like South Carolina and alaska. Ways,d argue that in some there is an open seat in kansas and democrats are really hoping that kris kobach, a hardline conservative on Voting Rights democratsthings, really wanted him to get through marshall goter through that primary instead. He went from being a potentially very attractive democratic fringe ofmore of the the Democratic Senate target. Just to put kansas in perspective, there are some positive trends in certain parts of the state for democrats but the bottom line is kansas has not elected a democrat in the senate since 1932. Is a really long public and lineage in the senate. Host center for politics. Org crystalball is where you can find this map, the current map that takes right now for which races are leaning which way. That is the United States senate there, eblue colors safe democratic states in the senate cycle. States in red means likely republican, and a yellow category that is probably where we will focus a lot about attention this morning. Iowa, North Carolina, and maine. If you want to call in this morning to talk about the states in races that you are interested in, you can do so. Phone lines split up as usual by party. Democrats, 202 7488000. Republicans, 202 7488001. Independents, 202 7488002. You started off by saying the senate Playing Field is the link as it often is in the president ial year. Ourpent the first hour of program talking about who joe biden should take as his Vice President ial nominee. Any thoughts on that pic and what it could mean down the ballot . Will be interesting to see particularly if he selects a black woman as his running mate as has been rumored but some of the top contenders are black, ricea harris and susanne stand out. California. From there is some research that would suggest potentially that if he selected a black running , is actually never had a black running mate to know what sort of electoral impact that might have. There are suggestions that if there was a black woman on the ticket, that person might actually help a little bit with black turnout and of course, in many of the most competitive states, if in fact that person could spur additional black turnout, that might be helpful for biden the president ial race. Biden not only needs to pick someone who is helpful, or at least not hurtful to him, he also needs to pick someone who you can govern with a who really could end up being a front runner for the democratic president ial nomination as soon as four years from now, really whether biden wins were doesnt win, it seems possible that he may be will run again given his advanced age. As for the timing, some of these announcements have come on fridays, which is kind of odd, because you dont think of friday as being a big news breaking day. Its not a Convention Like were used to. I think the idea is you announce on a friday, generating all this talk over the weekend and that goes pretty naturally into the convention. We have seen some of these announcements come out late on a friday. Joe bidens announcement itself, barack obama announced late on a friday. Also the announcement that paul ryan was going to be mitt romneys running mate was on a friday as well. Host the democratic National Convention begins next monday. Next tuesday, the centennial of the ratification of the 19th amendment. Perhaps we will see that as part of the rollout of former Vice President joe biden has said a woman will be his pic as Vice President. Michigan state with one of those potential contenders to be joe biden Vice President ial nominee, gretchen witmer, the governor there. Race, so letste start there on the phones. Ralph is in michigan, democrat. Ifler yes, i was wondering this analyst has new swing states or different swing states for this president ial election. Am seeing texas, nbc had an Electoral College projection and they had texas and ohio and georgia, i think, as swing states or up for grabs states. Is the map changing a lot . Host as you answer that question, this is the president ial Electoral College rating from the screen right now. If you need to talk through that map, it is there for you. Thats a great question. I do think that the map of the United States is relatively large for president you have to wonder about the future of texas becomes a swing republicans can win without ohio, let alone without texas. Your map currently has joe biden winning 268 state electoral votes, the blue states he said you expect this race to tighten up a little bit, but it want to compare your ratings to some of the other groups out there. More friendly to trumpet others. With 297as joe biden electoral votes in his category. Donald trump with just 170, abc newss ratings map that came out, joe biden with three a electoral votes, trunk with 187. Inside elections, 319 electoral votes in the joe biden category. Column. In trumps can you talk through how you do this and why there is so much difference . Guest sure. It, we probably are being a little more cautious than maybe some others. Some of it has to do with polling. We are polling in the midst of summertime. Labor day is typically a pretty good place to take stock because we had the conventions, the selection will have been made. Not that i think donald trump is pence. O stump mike again,ook at the polls we are looking at the current numbers and thinking that even though ohio and iowa and texas and georgia are decided, we would still rather see trump in those states given the size of the victories in 2016, but again, i dont think they are safe for trump by any means. I think there is specifically some disagreement about florida, which is a statement seems to persistently be extremely close in the president ial elections. There are polls showing that biden is up by five to 10 points. It is my own experience telling me that is probably not going to last. Maybe this is a different kind of election, the president obviously has a lot of things going against him right now. Economy,avirus, the the fact that his ratings were never that great to begin with. I think we continue to look at some of these states as being maybe harder to pick than the polls would suggest. Then again, the polls going the way they are, we get to labor day and biden is still leading pretty consistently in states like florida and wisconsin and tozona, it might be time move those to the democratic column, but we are not. Alabama,s is roxy in alabama, the state with the most honorable senator this cycle according to your rankings. Go ahead. I cant stand joe biden, he is an idiot. What im wondering is who in the world is going to run the country if he gets in there. I think the worst thing you could do is pick obama and women aint got no business and politics, god calls men to run the country and women to run the home. In life ande role that is why everything is so mixed up like it is. Another thing, putting somebody black in there just because they are black, that is racism. If you are putting a person in there because of their politics, and the fact that they could run the country. Host have you ever caller isnt she the one wanting to do away with cows and airplanes . I cannot stand her either. Host we got your point. That is roxy in alabama. Your thoughts on that . Comments toallers remind me that there was a big story in the Washington Post yesterday about how the Biden Campaign is preparing to deal with sexist attacks on whoever they choose as a running mate. There,ttitudes are out the caller basically showed. That is something that personally, the campaign unfortunately has to deal with. There are things that women candidates have to deal with that candidates were men dont have to deal with candidates who are men dont have to deal with and people of color have to deal with as well. That is something i think the Biden Campaign is preparing for. I think we have come a long way in terms of representation of people who are not white men in politics. Years, isk 50, 60 hard to find people who are not white men who are seeking power. I think you are seeing more diversity in both parties, really, although the democrats, ofy have more the Party Diversity than the Republican Party is. Women are more democratic, men are more republican. The democrats have the bigger in terms of being more multiracial coalition. I think there are a lot of people in Democratic Party who think the democratic ticket should represent that diversity, but at the same time, if you are joe biden, you have to make sure that whatever the demographic characteristics are of the group you choose, that person is going to be helpful, that person is going to be a person that credibly can take over for the president if for some reason biden were elected and died in office, had to leave office, what have you. I think people are cognizant of that, given the former Vice President s age. Host one of our viewers on twitter saying talk about Susan Collins in maine. Guest the parties have different views on her more ability. A longtime political handicapper had a good column about this within the last week, just about how republicans have internal polls showing that they believe she has a small lead at this point. Democrats believe that the state House Speaker, the democratic challenger, that she has the lead at this point. There have been some public polling that shows the race close, that shows gideon leading. Favoredlem is collins early numbers and approval ratings. She has always been this popular senator in maine and occupied this unique or increasingly unique ideological space in which she would serve as a republican, and now they are basically all gone or they have become democrats. But she has really become more of a partisan eyes partisanized figure in that you cant count on certain crossover , donald trump i think is a partisanized figure in the south but he really divide people into two camps. Trump does that maybe more so than other president s, and aslins tries to dance around to whether she supports trump or not. Finally, it seems like trump is probably going to do significantly worse in maine than last time. He came within three points of winning maine in 20 but poll suggested that maybe that is a lot of crossover in the era where crossover voters are harder and harder to come by. Race betweenne Susan Collins and sara gideon in the tossup category. Before we leave maine, i want to show viewers two ads from that race, the first from the Lincoln Project, that antitrump Publican Group against Susan Collins in her maine reelection run. Great, independent leaders rise from maines hard soil, always have and always will. Take Margaret Chase smith. When the men were terrified of joseph mccarthy, she called the net. Just like Susan Collins stands of the donald trump. Wait. Susan collins never stands at the donald trump. Thats why made is done with her weakness and excuses. Collins isnt an independent, she is a fraud. Mitch mcconnell and donald trump controller voice. She makes excuses for corruption, criminality, cruelty, all while pretending she is worried, concerned, hoping donald trump learns a lesson this time. He never does because she never speaks out, never does what i maine leader should do. Susan collins doesnt work for maine, she works for them. And maine deserves a leader, not a trump stooge. That was an ad from the Lincoln Project in this ad from senator Susan Collins responding to recent attacks on her. My opponents say ive changed. I havent, but politics sure has. False attacks against me began more than a year ago. Especially offensive are the outrageous attacks on my integrity, the suggestion that i traded my votes for Campaign Contributions is appalling. It never happened, not once, not ever. Parents who by taught me to be honest and to work hard. Have entrusted me with their vote in the senate, and ive cast it than 7000 times, never missing a single one. I will not back down from doing what i believe is right for maine. Im Susan Collins and i approve this message. Host your thoughts on those backtoback ads . Guest look, i think they sort of tell the story of the race in groups andatic effectively the Lincoln Project, theres a lot of former republicans working on it, the group works in service of Democratic Candidates and against republicans essentially in that category, trying to nationalized Susan Collins and say that she is a tool of donald trump and therefore she should be thrown out. Is trying to personalize race, localizer race, talk about how people have generally thought about her as being a voice, the fact that she is in a reliable vote in the senate. One thing in her ad that i typically, the political advertising rule of thumb is that if someone is making some sort of charge against you, you want to respond to it. You dont necessarily repeat the charge they are making, and i feel like she does that to some degree. Im sure her campaign had good that, but whatng she is doing their is sometimes seen as something that candidates maybe should do in political ads, which is interesting. The sort of reaction that might get. I think we are used to this when republicans are going after Democratic Senators and their vanilla Democratic Senators up for election in republican leaning states for the past several cycles. Several of them actually lost in 2018. Those ads, the democrats would be the ones sounding like collins does, talking about themselves as independent voice, and republicans want to comparing themt, to when obama was president , tying them to National Democratic leaders like nancy pelosi or the congresswoman from new york state, Alexandra Collier cortez alexandra cozz cortez. When it comes to republican starting democrats, the shoe is on the other foot, you got a republican trying to localize in a state that is probably going to vote democrat for president and get democrats trying to nationalize that. This is john in memphis, tennessee. Democrat, good morning. Host go ahead. Man, we need to the our eyes on the prize, and the price is to get donald trump out of the presidency. Women are capable of running this country, and they have proven that overtime. All the women that are republicans in office, where they apply that the democratic women, too . No, they dont. This,ust see trump doing line from the time he came down the escalator. He has put this country in a bad shape. We need to get him out of office, thank you. Kansasou mentioned the primary for the senate race last week. In kansas,ne republican, good morning. Caller good morning. Ive got a twopart question. Number one is i keep hearing that republicans have a much better ground game than democrats do in all the states, i would like to know if that is true. I think people might fail to underestimate the trump supporter once again. I think that this year, im not answering any survey questions. I would not put a sign in my yard, i would not wear a trump hat, i would not put a Bumper Sticker on because i would be iraid of being vandalized and think that is not just me thinking that way. I would like your comments on that, please. Kansas, people in kansas were very strategic about their vote. They voted for marshall because we thought he was the stronger candidate. And i think people are going to be much more strategic about their vote in other states as well. Thank you. Guest i would agree that voting for marshall was the strategic choice, certainly i think Republican Leaders in washington certainly felt that way. Democrats didnt want marshall to be nominated, republican primary voters probably made a wise choice from a purely political standpoint. We will how that race develops. About the map changing in terms of democratic talks, i think kandice probably fell off the top target list as a result of the primary last week. Itterms of the ground game, is simply about how the trunk campaign is doing significantly more canvassing than democrats are. Almost exclusively because of coronavirus, and i think the campaign may feel differently about what is appropriate and what is not in the midst of coronavirus. It is possible that the campaign might get some sort of benefit on that. I dont necessarily know if it is 100 inclusive in terms of what Campaign Activities work best, but my own reading of things is that facetoface contact is more effective than giving someone a phone call or something for Something Like that. That is something to watch. We are in this strange situation in that weve got coronavirus going on, a lot more people voting by mail. There has become a partisan conflict as to who votes by mail and who doesnt vote by mail. The president has basically voting by mail and that has changed Public Opinion on voting by mail. Democrats are more likely to want to vote by mail, republicans are less likely to want to vote by mail. Thatast majority of votes get cast will be counted, but if you vote by mail, there might be a bit less likely that your vote gets spoiled because maybe you , if youretime voting in the voting booth on election day, you could talk to someone and ask many questions. That has a significant variable. The final thing, the caller brought up the socalled shy trump effect, there is sometimes discussion of that, we see trump did better than the polls projected in 2016, the key states like wisconsin, pennsylvania, and michigan, it doesnt seem like researchers found that there was a shy trump effect so much as pollsters didnt necessarily toe a great grasp on the way win the electorate in their polling. There has become this big divide based on education within the white electorate, basically white voters with a Fouryear College degree used to be very republican. ,ow more of a swing demographic maybe even trending democratic. And white voters who dont have a Fouryear College degree, a long, long time ago formed bedrock of the Democratic Party and now it has become a very heavily rePublican Group. Pollsters have take into account these democratic differences based on education among white voters, and so there is any electorates that seem to be more formally highly educated than what reality actually is. And that is something that the pollsters have to take into account. That may have been responsible for this shy trump effect that i do think gives them a better handle on that they may be dated four years ago. Before we leave the primary season, which side had a better primary, did it generally go the way that Mitch Mcconnell and Chuck Schumer wanted . Guest i would say it generally did. Theres still some primaries to be had and i would say that no , there are a few senators who do have primaries , the center in massachusetts has a very strong democratic challenge from congressman joe kennedy, a very high profile primary. I think that if you basically , ifschumer and mcconnell you essentially let them take the candidates for these various states, i dont think they would have done much different than what the actual results were. The socalled establishment for both parties. One little oddity in the results is that the Democratic Senatorial Campaign committee is also more aggressive in the primary the never polluting counterparts and their endorsed candidates almost always win. One of them actually lost, the democrat from tennessee, which is not really a statement democrats win anymore, but he ended up losing pretty convincingly in his primary, that was sort of a rare misstep. That i donttate think democrats really prioritized in their race for the senate majority. Host tacked to the phones, nelson is an upper marlboro, maryland. Democrat, good morning. Caller good morning, thanks for taking my call. I have a comment for joe biden, if he is watching and listening. In 2016, we made a huge mistake, really did not help the campaign so much. This year, we should pick somebody like Elizabeth Warren, Kamala Harris, amy klobuchar. We dont want a repeat, we want somebody reinvented. We want Campaign Staffers ready to go because this is a critical time in our history and we need somebody that can rally up the democratic votes, and we are fired up and ready to elect biden as president. I know they are talking about people like susan rice. She is great, we can make her the ambassador, this is not a time will want to get into inside politics and all this lets go to somebody like amy klobuchar, Elizabeth Warren harrisris or kamala who is ready to go. Host nelson with his comments if joe biden is listening. James is in mississippi, independent. Good morning. Caller yes, how is everybody doing . Let me say this. Years, women, women have been abused, mistreated, held back in politics, but they move forward. An, people are saying that africanamerican woman is not qualified to be president. Let me tell you something. If you look at history, who took care of all these president s children . Now theyre trying to say they are not worthy. The one that i think is qualified to be the president on the first day with this Vice President is the lady from florida, the south. A Police Officer for 27 you. Be a woman ando the president and get respect from everybody. It does not make no difference to her about your race, criminal background because she knows how to do it. They want to look over her because her skin may be a little darker than everybody else, but her heart is pure gold. President , shee should have ran for president. I was hoping she would run because she is not biased about no one. It is not about culture, race, is a citizene, she of the United States of america and florida. Host that is james in mississippi. Back to the Vice President ial pick. Guest i think the first caller makes it very useful and good point in that if biden were to choose one of his former rivals who ran for president against him, the Elizabeth Warren for the thing is, if he were to choose one of those they havent been a president ial nominee before but they have run for president. Problems that they may have in their past were the worst thing that they have, in general it has already been explored, which should not expect huge surprises about them because they themselves were in the political, president ial crucible for a year or more because that campaign raged throughout 2019 and into 2020. Some of these folks i think were really gearing up to run for president before the 2019 calendar year whereas if you were to elect someone like val demings, the Democratic House member from florida, she isnt quite as well known. That is not to say she should or should not be chosen, it is just that americans are much less familiar with her, the National Press is less familiar with her, even though she has become a prominent member of the Democratic House caucus, we just dont know necessarily, we own have as good of a grasp on her liability. Rice, she is someone who served in a highlevel position , National Security adviser, the Obama Administration, she has never run for office before. It is a heavy lift to ask someone who has never run before to be the running mate, the a heartbeat away from the presidency. I do think susan rice would be a very logical person to have for a featured in the credit administration, perhaps in one of the roles she has held before, even secretary of state which i believe she was a contender for during the obama years. I would ultimately be a little bit surprised if she was the running mate again because it is pretty rare for a running mate to potentially have no formal elected experience. It has happened a few times before in recent decades, but it is not that common. It just seems kind of risky to me. Rice thatably knows than any of the other contenders, maybe he is more comfortable with her than with some of the other candidates, so maybe that is the way he would go. It would be kind of them in selection, i think, anyway. To get to as many of your calls as we can, we appreciate you calling in. This is bonnie in ohio, democrat. Caller can you hear me . Host yes, maam. Caller i think Stacey Abrams. I think she is so great. She is a gogetter, and she tells it just like it is. For donald trump, he needs to be out of office. Everybody gave him a chance, look what he has done to this country. He sure has ruined it. Thank you. Cheryl at pennsylvania, republican, good morning. Caller no, im not a republican. Host are you a democrat . Caller yes, i am. Thanks for taking my call. I hope that we get somebody in for biden to fight. The biggest fighter up there so far is Elizabeth Warren. Intimidation, she has a plan for everything, she thinks everything out. Not a blackwhite pusher or anything. Particular case we need someone who keeps her eye on many balls at one time and i think she doesnt. I think he needs her strength. The Republican Party has always been a party that has had these strange, racist groups. Right now it is a hate ticket. We need to say that. Elizabeth warren so far has been my choice for years, because she is very competent and the other women are great, and i wish, really, that we could do this so we can take this over. I dont know, this may be a problem for biden, maybe a problem for a lot of white men. Ee a may look at this and say little bit more than what they can handle. Host a couple democrats with their thoughts on the vp pick, we are expecting it sometime this week for the democratic National Convention starts. One of the major part of campaign 2020 we havent talked about yet, the battle for control of the house. At this point, take us through whether you think republicans still have a chance of retaking the house. Guest anything can happen. There are three major races. Majority house, majority senate, and the presidency. The presidency, i personally feel the strongest saying the democrats are the strongest favorites in the house. Even though they hold onto the seat, a lot of these democratic incumbents dont seem to have major obvious problems. Republicans have had some fairly highprofile missteps in some of these states. They have a lot of strong challengers they dont seem to be matched to the most vulnerable democratic seats and the Democratic House incumbent even in the most honorable c has incredible fundraising advantages. Money is not everything, but it does help. These districts some ofed for trump, them are places that biden might be able to flip. The democrats are in good shape i think. Possible, maybe the democrats would actually pick up a few net house seats. At this point im not expecting a whole lot of change in the house for the democrats to maintain that majority. I think i would feel that way even if they were public and held the senate and donald trump were in the white house, we would have to see a really major shift in the National Political environment for the Democratic House majority to be significantly in danger. Host you brought up democrats sitting in think that donald trump won in 2016 and you list them at crystal ball. Theres 30 seats in this column. I wonder, wouldnt this be the natural target list for republicans to start in 2020, and why havent they been entering more of those on board in terms of making them competitive . Host absolutely. Those are the targets, and a thing that republicans also have been fixated on so, traditionally republican seats that vote for Hillary Clinton and voting Democratic House in 2018, i kind of think that i talk about mismatched challengers, again i think that the republicans have some strong candidates in districts that voted for clinton. Its pretty hard to beat an incumbent from one party while that party is winning a district or senate race as well. 30 trump district democrats, if you go through it again, if biden were to win the presidency and do significantly better than Hillary Clinton did, you can imagine maybe 15 or more of those seats voting for biden for president which i think what influenced some of his house incumbents, democrats hold a lot diverse and in suburban house districts that are kind of trending democratic, places where donald trump performed worse than mitt romney did in 2012, and voted democratic for house in 2018. The trendlines for republicans and some of these states are poor, even if trump carried them. That goes out the window if trump or to win again and particularly if he were somehow to win the popular vote. I think at this point is chances of winning the popular vote are very low, i think you maintain some advantages in the Electoral College map that translates to the national conflict. Given the state of the president ial race again, even some of the most vulnerable House Democrats still seem to be in decent shape. Host kyles managing editor at crystal ball brought to you by the university of Virginia Center for politics. We always appreciate your time on washington journal. Guest thanks for having me. Host up next this morning, American Public health will join as a day after the United States hit the 5 billion case mark when it comes to coronavirus. Stick around for that discussion. We will be right back. 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Host can you start by reminding viewers what the American Public Health Association is . Guest were the National Nonprofit of people who practice Public Health and quite frankly, many of our people are the ones who are out each and every day. Host and what role have you sought to play in the coronavirus pandemic, and what has your group been doing . Weve been doing a lot of education of policymakers, the public. Advocating for resources, and really trying to push a pro Health Agenda based on science. Host we found out yesterday that the number of reported coronavirus cases in this country passe the 5 million markd, a doubling of u. S. Cases since the end of june. The last one million happening in just the last 17 days. Your reaction to that milestone . The challenge is that a lot of this is preventable, we just are not paying attention to what we know works. You look at other nations in the world, they were able to get their hands around this and we just havent. Host how do we keep from doubling again by early fall or sooner . Guest the evidence is real clear. Waer a mask, wash your hands, keep your distance. Doing lots of testing. Good Contact Tracing. That is the way you get your hands around this epidemic. Every nation in the world that has done this successfully has followed that formula. Host you talk about other nations in the world, we hit the 5 million milestone. India is second in the world in terms of most infections at 3 million, well behind the United States. We have more infections in this country because we do more testing in this country . Guest look, testing identifies people who are infected. But you are infected because you are infected. You are infected because this is a disease that you passed persontoperson and we have more infections. Not necessarily because we do more testing. In fact we are not doing as much testing per capita as other nations. Host how should we be doing our testing, what changes would you make if you were in charge . Guest obviously if i could make this work and snap my fingers, we would have a robust testing system next day and truly allow anyone who wanted to get it passed. Most importantly, the results would come back within 24 hours so can actually do Contact Tracing and then inform people, go to the doctor, stayathome, stay away from others. The only way we can do this is by a robust testing system. Host what do you want to see in the next 12 hours response legislation . Guest we need to start putting some dollars and so they dont start laying off people. Many of the people chasing this virus today at the state and local Health Department level are about to get a off. Rapidlyo see us more start testing. We only do that with more resources. And by the way, informed, coordinated, National Leadership. Host in terms of the money, or talking 3 trillion, 1 trillion . We have heard all of those tossed around of these negotiations have gone on. Be a matter of money on the hill right now is closer to 2 trillion or 3 trillion. The fact of the matter is, we need to get more money out there, we need to get money out there. Host were talking to dr. Georges benjamin, the executive director of the public Health Association, talking to him a day after u. S. Case counts soared past 5 million in this country. If you want to join this conversation this morning, it is 202 7488000 if you live in the eastern or central time if you 202 7488001 live in the mountain or pacific time zones, and a special line for medical professionals, 202 7488002. We would love to have you join us as well in this conversation. People are calling in this morning. You talk about folks who are out there chasing this virus. Can you talk more about what that means, are we talking Contact Tracing . If so, how much of that is going on in states around the country . Virus when you consider a like this, you identify people who are infected. You ofk with them, and course give them to help care they need if they need health care. And then what you do is you find out who they may have been in contact with. Peoplen you advise those on their best medical options. And you do that until you basically contain the disease. ,omeone who has been exposed even if they are not systematic, they need to quarantine themselves. And if they are sick, they need to be isolated. That is a process that has been going on for a few hundred years. It works. It is not rocket science. But it has been a real challenge for a nation to adopt. Host we are seeing the pushback in the past weeks and months on facial coverings, facemasks in the country. How much pushback did your folks get when it comes to Contact Tracing . How willing are people to say, here is the list of people ive been in contact recently with, here is everyone i have talked to facetoface . Guest we need to make wearing a mask cool again. And we have to do that as the first principle. And Contact Tracing is difficult. If you call me up on the phone and i dont know what you are and you say where were you yesterday and who were you with, im probably not going to tell you. There is an art to doing that. There really is. The real challenge we have is getting people to understand that art. By the way, the Health Department has been doing this for years for things like sexual transmitted diseases, tuberculosis, so we actually do know how to do that. But we dont have enough people, and we dont have enough people who are trained to basically bill that confidence to a group of people that can pick up the phone and call you and talk with you and share that information. Host explain that art if you are making that call right now. How do you do that . Guest personally i would say im dr. Benson, im from the you werepartment, and exposed to someone who had covid19. What we would like you to do, of course, if you have any of the following symptoms, we think you want to make sure you talk with your doctor and we also want you to work with us to see if we can help identify anyone else youve been around who also may be exposed, so you can help keep them from getting sick and save their life in some situations. People get really sick from this and can die. I know that you might not want to share that information with me, but i assure you this information will be held confidentially, and we will not share with anyone outside the appropriate health authorities. You are not going to be arrested, you are not going to be hunted down, youre not going to a lot of the country. We simply want you to help us help other people. If you dont want to give me their names, ok. Here is who you call. You call your friends and the people theyve been around and have them call me. Host how much of a response do you get to that . Peoplegenerally get most when you put them in the position of being a helper in this process . Guest i havent done this for many years personally. , it worked. O that people that i talked with, we used that kindness, it does work. Here dr. Georges benjamin to answer your questions and comments as the u. S. Case count past 5 million in this country. Nancy is in altoona pennsylvania. Youre on with dr. Benjamin. Caller good morning. We were behind in our area for the testing. So they did ramp it up from just orderace with the doctors that you could go to a medics press without the doctors order. Like what has happened is when the testing got a little better, i cant say its that great. The Contact Tracing was so far behind that there really wasnt anything much happening. Lived with ady who person that definitely had it and was in the hospital and it took two weeks to get the answer. When i called the Pennsylvania Department of health, they said they dont have enough Contact Tracing people. We are all talk and not enough action to be strict on putting these things in place. Says. D to do what the cdc and whats happening is we are talking about it but we are not strict on the laws for masks. We do not enforce the Contact Tracing other we have to hire more people to get that done. But its all talk and its not happening and we are rising because we are not doing what we are saying. As far as the masks, when people say things like you should wear a mask unless you have some kind of a health issue that prevents you, right away thats on a door and you see people Walking Around without any masks and this is just not strict. And we are thinking that its not something that has to be done to control this and curb the spread. Host dr. Benjamin. Guest i agree with her. We initially thought we needed 100,000 contact tracers. Some people think we need we hundred thousand now. The last that i knew was somewhere in 30,000. Part of it is money. Requires a National Effort with the federal government being the biggest cheerleader providing the resources and guidance and we have not had that. So shes absolutely right. Testingtracing, rapid is the key for us getting our hands around this and shes right. We are not walking the talk. On this headline from usa today, governor mike dewines testingsitive spotlight issues, looking back on the governors rapid test that he took on thursday ahead of the president s visit to ohio, that rapid test giving a positive result but two pcr tests found that the wind tested negative. How do we make testing more to reliable . Test its a rapid notoriously known to have false that yourmeaning positive or not. False positive meaning sometimes it says you are positive for the virus and you are not. Its notoriously inaccurate. The pcr test looks for the whole virus. And it is much more accurate. If it says you are negative or positive, it depends on the fit the specificity of the test. I always encourage people to understand when you take those tests that they can sometimes be wrong and you usually have to have another confirming test. Do a couple antigen tests. One in the morning, one in the thats why youve seen the white house has had some tests that have not been accurate when they have done them at the white house. This test is notoriously inaccurate. Of statesst experiencing rapid growth in covid19 cases in the last seven days. Hawaii has seen 1149 new cases. Thats an increase of 99 the previous week. Thisis jason from hawaii morning. Thanks for calling in. You are on with dr. Benjamin. Caller that morning. Thank you for not politicizing this issue about the coronavirus. I was calling in regards to the lawsuit filed by stanford doctors against california in regardsvin newsom to the Overly Burdensome Regulations surrounding keeping schools closed. Essentially the lawsuit says that the risks to children are very low and that children virtually do not transmit the virus to adult patients. Or two adults into to adults period. I was wondering why cspan hasnt invited any of these doctors on the air. Ofs man is professor medicine at Stanford University and this has not received any publicity from the mainstream media. Thank you. Guest i dont advise cspans programming except to invite me over more often. One of the things thats challenging about this outbreak is that we continue to learn things each and every day. Weve made a lot of assumptions based on what we thought we knew based on the previous sars outbreak. A friend virus, different strain. Kids couldthat always get the virus. Kids are not immune from getting it. We have always said kids can get it. The question is how sick do they get and how easily do they spread it. More and more evidence is showing us that kids not only absolutely can get this disease and tend to be pretty efficient 10spreading it at least years of age and older. So i understand that this is a big tradeoff. People are trying to tradeoff kids social emotional needs, there need to be with their peers, their educational needs. These are very important. The fact that there were many kids who get their meals at school and we have a nation where too many people have food insecurity. We are having this real tradeoff. Thatee what happened at camp in georgia. Theyve got now nine cases. Almost 100,000as kids who got the disease in the last two weeks of july. We know theres over 500 kids who got the really severe multisystems disease that weve been reporting on. Weve had about 86 kids who died in dismay. Since may. While kids dont get sick and the risk is lower for them, the School Systems are having a really tough time and our elected leaders of both parties trying to figure out the tradeoffs that are involved in this. This is tough stuff. Is wear yournce mask, wash your hands, keep your distance. And i was fascinated by the fact in georgia they closed the school after they had these cases. The new story is all about them cleaning the school. What they really need to be talking about is wearing a mask and physically distance. Thats how you get the disease from other people. You can get it from objects and surfaces, but right now thats not where the focus is. Its got to be on protecting me from you and you from me and the mask does that. Host out to the eastern shore. This is tony. Good morning. Caller thank you for taking my call. I would like to make a couple comments. We need to get more money to the state. But its got to start from the top. This past weekend you see these motorcyclesgs, the in south dakota. Kids on the news that her walking through the falls with no mask. Are expecting to curb this virus if they go out here and do what we supposed to do . People on the beaches not wearing masks. These kids think they are untouchable. They think its a hoax. Anywheres is not going and these people are complaining, im tired of staying in the house. Do what you are supposed to do and then get tested and find out where this virus is going. Host dr. Benjamin. Guest i agree. The failure of our nation compared to other nation that have been much more effective has been unified National Leadership and supporting the governors. We have terrible risk communication. We have parts of our country that still think this is a hoax. And thats a problem. All i can do is reemphasize my message. Everyone is going to get tired of hearing me say this, but youve got to make mask wearing cool. Weve got to deal with reality. What do you do when johnny comes has from school and he traded his batman mask with someone elses spiderman mask. To educate our kids better so that they. Nderstand how do we deal with the infrastructure so that we can do remote learning. Weve got to figure out how to do this a lot better. There are too many schools in our country that dont have school nurses. Who is going to provide the medical support for those kids in school . We need the resources to make sure every school in america has a school nurse. Host this is jerry in huntington beach, california. I agree with virtually everything that dr. Benjamin says, particularly on Contact Tracing. Maybe we could use Something Like, south korea uses the cell phone tracing. Itself,s the disease they are trained in Chemical Warfare which is what this is. We havent taken this insidious disease as seriously as we should in this country. , one of theis garters got covid. From what i understand, he was told to quarantine. And he went home and he lives with a bunch of other people in the house. Them got the thing. The only thing they had going for them is they were all young. None of them died but they all got very sick. Be to protectd the older people like me. We need to start thinking of ways to really crackdown on thiss and not just nonsense we are hearing from trump about how to fight this. Host can you followup specifically on what the caller mentioned, the use of technology in Contact Tracing. Guest google and apple have a joint project which is really kind of need. Your phone andon if you have covid, you information in the app. If you happen to approach someone else, it notifies them theyve been exposed to someone who had covid and then it gives them a number to call. It doesnt share your information with them but it says youve been exposed to something. And then says call this office and its the Health Department. Virginia has just rolled out this project recently. Its in the way of using an app. Way of using an app. It builds it on top of the existing Public Health Contact Tracing infrastructure. It enables us to do our work. So i think thats important. There are more and more people out there using apps. Some other apps that other nations are using. Not someone who is real familiar with all of them. I know they are out there. Im an older guy. Im 67. My kids really understand this. They are much younger and they really understand all these technology tools. Technology can use the better. Benjamin therges American Public Health Association. Apha. Org is where you can find them. For taking myyou call and thank you for your time. Think that confuses many of the public out here is because its like anything else, you like to know the origins of things. Health hear enough of experts, politicians, anybody talking about exactly if we could have a little more information on where, how and why this thing started. That, come from a lab, water. I know that would help me and my friends communicating. I talked to a lot of people. So unknown. Be with all our technology why cant we pinpoint that it was made in a lab or it did come from an animal. It seems like nobody can tell us. Guest we actually know a lot about this virus. People whore are study coronaviruss. Its a family of viruses. It actually can cause, not this particular one, but it can cause the common cold. Family of theme sars virus we saw several years ago. Also in the family of that includes the middle eastern respiratory system, which is viruses you get from camels. There are millions of different kinds of Infectious Diseases out there and they periodically mutate. They change. And they attack us when they change. This is not uncommon. Ebola got here, zika virus. Even influenza which changes every year ultimately came from an animal. So we actually know a lot about it. That, its generally thought that it evolved from bats because bats have a lot of coronaviruss. In this case we believe the first introduction into humans was in china. Obviousw theres no clear evidence that it was made in a lab. And by the way, we know that nature is very efficient at creating these kinds of diseases. And it does it all the time. Like to be able to pinpoint and say someone did this and that happened. Frankly, common things occur commonly and nature commonly changes viruses. Pointose viruses at some do injure human beings. Thats the best i can tell you. The task today is for us to treatments get your for it, get a vaccine for. Theres a lot of ways we can prevent each other from getting it and we are just not using those tools that we have effectively. Host this is james. Good morning. Hello dr. Benjamin. I have a question. Am i heard . Host yes there. Sir. Caller my question is this. Is this a behavioral driven disease . There are various rates of infection in this country apparently very high and in other countries they seem to be much more controlled. Driven bytally behavior . What is your opinion of why there are such divergent responses to this apparently mutating condition . Why this is occurring so far differently in various countries that are reporting their findings . Initial experience in most countries is the same. The difference is in how we responded to it both in our nation and our country. Hit, we did not rapidly ramp up a new category of people who could do Contact Tracing. We got behind the eight ball on testing which we never really caught up. We are a big country. Effort take a lot more for us to do what we need to get done. They have huge disease spikes. Even though we sheltered at home, we didnt do it long enough. We reopened our society too early in many places. We are seeing the result of that. New york was much more effective at bringing this outbreak down than texas or florida as an example. The behavioral aspects are on the prevention side. We know that wearing a mask, washing your hands and keeping your distance works. The mask is a lot more effective than any of us even thought. Was onein this thing i of those folks who said im not quite sure whether you need to wear a mask. First year. Onvert from a common sense perspective, when you are talking to someone all that stuff comes out your mouth. If i wear a mask, it doesnt come out my mouth and spray on you. It dramatically reduces my exposure to you and your exposure to me. So the mask works as a functional tool. From a behavioral perspective if we did those three things, mask wearing, hand hygiene and keeping our distance, we would have better control of this disease then we have today. Host how long does it take to train somebody to be able to do Contact Tracing and how many of those folks are in the pipeline and what states are using that most effectively . Dont have a good idea of what states are using it most effectively. Some of the ones i thought were doing great jobs turns out they are not. Course thatonline Johns Hopkins has. I think 10 to 15 hours of education to give somebody the knowledge that they need. I think the talking to people give encouraging people to the information is an art form and that takes a while to really learn. You can get the book knowledge in a few hours. Theres a lot of people using volunteer workforces. Link it toret is to the existing governmental Public Health infrastructure. Thats the way to do this. A school or a job thats involved in testing and trying to integrate Contact Tracing for their employees, they have to integrate that with the Health Department. Jay in riverdale, maryland. Caller cspan, this cable bill is very expensive. Please dont cut me off. I have a followup question. After this tuskegee experiment, im worried about vaccines especially since no successful vaccine has been out to fight covid. My comment is leading to my followup question. Italy was once the epicenter for the virus. The country called in human doctors with the cure. Interferon. Now they have totally reversed this. They are a model for europe. I dont know why the commercial media here and even cspan, big fan. Doesnt even talk about that there is a cure used in italy and almost 50 other countries. Interferon alpha two b. People are dying and there no discussion about it. Dr. , are you aware of the b . Erferon alpha to be two guest im aware there have been randomized controlled studies with interferon. Interferon is a molecule that does interfere with some viruses. I dont know what its efficacy is. I have heard through some sources i have in cuba that theyve had some good outcomes from. I cant verify those. I do know theres a range of studies looking at that as well as a whole range of other therapies that are out there. Have is tryinge to do enough of those studies so you can prove that they work. I wont integrate the study because im not aware of the outcome. But i am aware that there are some folks in cuba, some scholars in cuba believe they have some effective treatments and theyve certainly been willing to share those with others. Host did you have a quick followup . Caller thats fine. Im talking about statistically italy. Of theas the epicenter virus in europe. And now after the cuban doctors. Im not talking about clinical trials. The doctors from cuba have come to italy and now they are going back to normal with 50 other countries. Host not your point. Got your point. Guest i dont know about the study in italy. I have not seen that. I have not seen that data. I know that it really effective Contact Tracing, mask wearing, handwashing and is distancing the centerpiece of their prevention effort. In terms of treatment efforts, im not up to speed. Host the viewer mentioned his high cable bill. Cspan represents about six cents a month on your cable bill. We think its a pretty good deal. Appreciate the call. Joe is in bellevue, illinois. Go ahead. Caller its actually belleville. Good morning. Im fearful this disease is going to really kill us all. Up here and play lipservice all morning long. Unless congress or the president is going to impose real penalties for not wearing masks, we are all going to get this disease. Like that big rally out in south dakota, all those people are going to infect each other and then returned to their families and infect them and then their families are going to infect us. For talking and convincing is over. Host you want fines . What dale time . You want jail time . Caller yes. They are endangering peoples lives. People are endangering the lives of their fellow people. About 75 of the individuals in a store yesterday were wearing masks. Stores enforce and no shirt, no no masklicy why not a policy . Its not that big an inconvenience. Host dr. Benjamin. Toler im in the camp strongly encourage people to wear masks. The challenge is how to get the best compliance. Crafteople like me if you , i dont want to break the rule. There are a lot of people that will still be very defiant even if you pass a law to do that. Human behavior is always tough to predict. In those nations that have stood behind the Health Recommendations and said this is the best Health Guidance that we have. That the mask in the model here. Have had a much higher level compliance among the population than those nations that have been wishywashy. And weve been wishywashy. Host this is edward out of keyport new jersey. Good morning. Caller being that the Public Sector has only thought about antibacterial resistance. Host he was talking about antibacterial resistance in future pandemics. This is a virus. Not bacteria. And there is a risk of some of the antiviral agents getting resistance over time. Not yet. Ok. Ink right now we are if this disease continues over several years and we have several therapy and we dont use them effectively, you can get antiviral resistance as well. Host i know you were on capitol hill last month testifying. One of the issues you talked about is the disproportionate impact this disease is having on minorities. Can you bring us uptodate on the latest numbers . Guest we are still seeing high percentages of africanamericans, hispanics, disproportionate deaths. Many of those individuals have public facing jobs. About buse out and drivers, sanitary workers. Workers in nursing homes. Becaused susceptibility they have more chronic diseases, diabetes, heart disease, lung disease, kidney disease. And quite frankly the real challenges as one of the callers said earlier about multigenerational households. If you go home and you are infected, you are likely to give it to your family members. If you are in a and youerational family cant effectively quarantine, youre going to infect your family. It and maketo fix sure by the way that we have access to testing which early on was not the and we need to make sure that we can provide adequate care to all the people that get it on an equal basis. Host dr. Georges benjamin, executive director of the American Public Health Association. Apha. Org. Always appreciate your time. Come back down the road. In our last 25 minutes or so, we will continue with the same topic. We will get to your call. We are talking about the United States passing the 5 million mark when it comes to coronavirus cases. Central 202 7488000. Mountain and pacific 202 7488002. 202 7488001 keep calling back. We will be right back. Tonight on the communicators, sarah miller and baker donaldson, on whether big tech is too big. 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This is the headline from the Washington Post this morning. Mark 17 days after the u. S. Total exceeded 4 million. Cases have doubled since late the United States leads the world with a quarter of all global infections. India follow. The United States tallied its millionth case on april 20. Cases reached 2 million on june 11. 3 million on july 8. 4 million on july 23 yesterday we found out it had 5 million in this country and counting. Getting your reaction to those milestones. Eastern and00 central. 202 7488001 mountain or pacific time zones. Haven, goout of new ahead with your comment even though the doctor is no longer with us on the program this morning. Caller this is a global problem. This is when all the scientists of the world should get together on this virus. We are treating this like a war. And i can see our leader is treating it like china deliberately brought it we need to look at true leadership and bring all the people together to solve this problem. Because we are all having the same problem. Host was the person to bring the leadership together . Obama was president in, he would have done it. We have a president that divides and hes been starting trouble with china for a long time. China, china, china. Thats all that comes out of his mouth. He is a racist. Hes not suitable to be president. He never was. Hes only about money and money is not my god. Host carol in massachusetts. Good morning. Caller good morning. Thanks for taking my call. Was listening to a man in the first segment who wanted to put everybody in jail. Im trying to get serious about the masks and all the other medication. Losing my voice. And the gentleman who just spoke has the right idea, too. Its ridiculous. A nation like ours should not have to be doing this. We should be getting help from the organizations that are set up to help. Trump got rid of them all. That was the first thing he did when he was in office. Understand. I just dont get it. Signed asident trump series of executive actions over the weekend. This is the headline this morning after several Democratic Leaders went on the shows to talk about those. This was Speaker Nancy Pelosi on fox news sunday. I agree with republican senators, said it was unconstitutional slop. It has the illusion of siding we are going to have moratorium on addictions. To ask the going folks in charge to study it thats feasible. What hes doing is undermining Social Security and care. These are illusions. And what he calls in our bill unnecessary. Millions of children in our country are food insecure. Bill addresses that with tens of billions of dollars. Feed the children. Hasrepublican bill 250,000. Our bill addresses those who are on the brink of eviction. We use the numbers from the Princeton Eviction Lab to show how many people will be evicted and what their needs are and that comes to tens of linson dollars the republican bill has nothing. Iis thing on sunday morning just recall a prayer that says pray for those who are hungry. Pray harder for those who will not feed them. Pray for those who are homeless. Pray harder for those who will not give them shelter. Pray for those who are sick and lonely. Pray harder for those who will not give them comfort. Host Speaker Nancy Pelosi. This was the president arriving back at the white house. He was asked whether its time for him to become personally involved in those negotiations. Involvedeen personally. Ive been on the phone a lot over the last four days. I think it actually works better if we do it the way we are doing. Much of what we wanted without having to give up anything and thats very good. You cant beat that. You cant eat the deal we made. We got much of what we wanted. They didnt get what they wanted and they would have. And i guess they still could in all fairness. Wants to seepelosi if she can do something. Toy are much more inclined make a deal now than they would have been two days ago. Host the president yesterday. This is the headline from usa today. U. S. Hits 5 million cases of covid19 getting your reactions. Teresa and columbus, ohio. Morning. Ood thank you cspan. My problem is in im one of the highest zip code in this area and you cant get testing anywhere. You can get a mammogram at every shopping center. But we cant get covid tests safely when we are in a zip code that is mostly poor. If poor people dont know they are sick, they dont wear masks. They dont believe theres a virus. This is the things i hear from people in my area and it blows my mind. Can we please get some help in these republicans controlled states to get testing. They are showing the highest number of covance. You guys are missing out on a whole bunch of people. People love to volunteer. Get them on the phone calling these people. If you want the art of talking to tell on the phone to people, get all the Real Estate Agents on. They could sell ice cream to eskimos. Thank you for taking my call. Inns the John Saunders University Coronavirus dashboard , this is new case trends in ohio. You can see the curvature of that chart moving upwards throughout july. The latest numbers out of ohio. Just over a thousand new cases of coronavirus. This is darlene out of washington. Morning. You are next. Caller good morning. For the last five months my kids and i have been talking about daysvirus and the first 30 when we shut down, i think for the americans that was it. What we dont realize is im sorry america, but we are the most selfish and selfcentered country in the world. Was attold my daughter 62, we know what to do. Wash our hands, social distance. If i was 22, my head would be in a different place. I was also telling my kids this could be so much worse. What if it was a three day disease and in three days he would be pleading out of every orifice in your body and dropping dead. People are selfish and selfcentered. Thats not going to change and it starts from the top. Im tired of hearing about Nancy Pelosis prayers. If anybodys going to get the virus, i know who id want to get host we will go to parole in california. Morning. Caller hello. That we are acting like people have never died before. To the nothing compared black plague. Hello . Think 160,000 deaths is nothing . Caller have you studied the black plague . Do you remember hearing about 1919, the influenza epidemic . It killed my grand mother. Grandfather. I wish we would get over the concern that people are dying and start opening up some of these facilities that are closed so that people can go there and not expose their families. Host number of deaths would make it concerning for you . 200,000, three hundred thousand, 400,000 . Or 20 lets try 10 million. More people died in the flu epidemic of 1919 than the whole world war i. This if we use our facilities. We dont have to paralyze our economy because of this little epidemic. I remember swine for i was a little boy. A lot of people died then. Its like we are acting like people have never died for. I mean, suicide is killing a lot of people. Alcohol and drug abuse is killing a lot of people right now. People are falling off the wagon because they cant go to a meeting. Paralyzing our economy and children are going hungry because we are worried about the fact that some people might die. Mean, people die. Its a fact of life. Host thats several in california. This is claudio. Personally i believe that if america looked at it from a scientific point of, children dont get this virus like elders. Ofy had elevated levels magnesium and zinc in their bodies which divert this disease. Attach to anyones cells that arent clean. Thats why Young Children dont get it. They have high levels of clean iron. It attaches to the corrosion on the iron thats why we believe brown. Oe use the restroom, we po brown. Thats because of the iron in our blood cells. Host this is mildred out of North Carolina. Good morning. Good morning and thank you for receiving my call. I want you to know that im a person who believes in helping whenever i can help anybody. So the only thing i just want to say, i love my country. Im a woman of god. From dont look at People Perspective of race because we all are gods people. And the only thing i want to say is this. Lets forget the different republican, democrat, independent. Forget about all of that. And what we can do to help each other, let us do that. Ands just thinking i prayed asked god to let me get on this morning. I was thinking about a president if president obama can help in any way or any other the situationto help this , from my understanding i heard that it was already set on the Obama Administration concerning the viruses. But im just saying what i heard and if its best to not try our come together and solve this problem . Because im sure the other president s can help. Host what do you think is keeping us from coming together . Caller in order that we can come together and be a country. Host thats mildred in North Carolina. Out of tampa florida, good morning. Caller yes. I have a big concern that they are not testing in the v. A. A few days a call, the v. A. Employees in the new union protested. Heent and asked my doctor if intestate and he said he had never been tested and a lot of the employees are the same way. Even though they can give you a test in four hours and they can know the results, you cant get the results because you have to ask for your primary care doc and they are only working from 8 00 to 2 00 where they used to work from 7 00 to 4 00 and they are not testing the caregivers. Caregiver and shes also a teacher. I left calls to senator rubio on this. They are not testing the people at the hospital. If the government cant get it right, how can they expect other people. It would have been monday she got the test and then it would have been tuesday and thats like eight days into being quarantined host have you heard back from the Senators Office . Caller no. Havent heard back at all from there or any senators about the problem. You should have a whole special on the v. A. And how they are not testing them. Veterans, if you go in, ask if your dog has been tested if not, ask for another. Host here the numbers out of tampa. 2679 new cases. Thats down almost 10 from the previous week when it comes to deaths in tampa and the surrounding county. Some other numbers that are getting a lot of attention this morning, this is the cbs news report. Nearly 100,000 children tested positive for the coronavirus in the last two weeks of july. Testeder 97,000 children positive from july 16 to july 30. Out of almost 5 million reported covid19 cases in the u. S. , Michael George reports the group found that more than 338,000 were children. Lewis is out of salisbury, North Carolina. Caller the other color was saying how death is just death. Magnitude thatno will alarm that individual but 10 million. To bring up at is in 1916 due to they didnt really have the Technology Like we do. And when they did come back that disease that the gentleman said it dont matter how many people died, they wore masks. Saidody got together and lets wear a mask. If not, it would still be going on right now in 2020 that same disease. People got to wear the mask. I dont know why they are waiting on donald trump to say it but they see that we are already at 5 million and counting. Thats just the tip until they start really doing testing. People, please. I beg of you. And i beseech thee to wear your masks if you love me. Now if you dont love me, you are not going to wear your masks. But if you love me, wear your mask. Mentions the president. We talked about the state of negotiations over the next Coronavirus Relief package that would move through congress. This was the president in the past hour on twitter saying now Chuck Schumer and nancy pelosi want to meet and make a deal. Amazing how it all works. Where have they been the last four weeks when they were hard liners and only wanted bailout money . They know my phone number is what the president said on twitter. Margaret in franklin, massachusetts. Morning. Are you with us . Will go to judith out of new york. Good morning. Caller good morning. About the virus. The country of america. Do the citizens love their country . I dont think so. March, the virus is spreading. Why cant the citizens of america do something about their country america that they love so dearly . Caller would convince you that americans do love their country . What would it take . Caller this is a very bad virus. They are taking over everybody. It dont love nobody. You dont have to be republican and democrat for this virus to love the so what the citizens of america can do like england, canada. They are fighting against one another. They have to do better than that. They are mean people. I understand they are very mean and they dont love nobody in their country. Peopley have to love that are mean. Takingwhy the virus is over america like that. Oft this is harvey out genia. Caller good morning. Lets get serious on this thing. There was a fellow on their who talked about figures. The spanish flu in 1918 took roughly seven and a half percent of the population of the world did. This virus here in the United States has taken less than 1 and worldwide, its even less than that. Donehe more testing thats , the more cases they are going to undercover. Thing is a farce. If people would use their common virus this is a cold thats been modified to be much more contagious. Anyone with any kind of a respiratory infection could succumb and die from it. If covid19 had never been developed. What number of deaths starts to get concerning for you . Got over caller if we 5, 6, 7 and actually during the 20 k plague, roughly 10 to of the World Population died host thats harvey out of virginia. Squalor in todays washington journal. We will back here tomorrow morning at 7 00 a. M. Eastern. In the meantime, have a this afternoon, a look at antibias programs for police and how they can reduce the likelihood of violent confrontation. That is live starting at 2 00 eastern on cspan. This week, see spans the contenders looks at the lives of 14 men who ran for the presidency and lost, a changed political history. Watch live on 8 00 p. M. You turn on cspan. Starting tonight, 1844 president ial candidate henry clay. The perjury case against president trumps former National Security advisor Michael Flynn will be reheard by on tuesday, the court will decide whether a district judge must dismiss the charges against Michael Flynn. Live tuesday at 9 30 a. M. Eastern on cspan and it cspan. Org, or listen live with the free cspan radio app. Next to, a look at how the coronavirus is affecting australia. Prime minister Scott Morrison spoke at the Aspen Institute about the pandemic, security in the region, in relations with and relations with china and india. Evening, everyone and welcome back to the aspen security forum. I am director of the aspen shot a geo group. I should say good morning to the Prime Minister of