Exclusive interview with Kamala Harris and iraq coming mate tim walz, the new democratic nominees, sitting down to answer questions for the first time since, since President Joe Biden stepped aside from the ticket. Lets bring and cnns eva mckend. So eva, tell us about this interview now, this is the first time that the Vice President and her running mate will sit down for an indepth interview. She did at the dnc meet with Content Creators Different Social Media influencers. Well, that is, of course not the same of sitting with an indepth in for an indepth interview like she will with our dana bash later this week in the battleground, state of georgia, to answer some pretty serious policy questions. She of course, might be asked about her position now on fracking because the critical State Of Pennsylvania is in play and also her position on immigration, which has changed dramatically over the years that is what she might be confronted with. But also, she can use this platform, alex, to try to relate to Everyday Americans that shes really been intentional about that throughout this Campaign Process shes trying to connect with voters and essentially say i understand your struggle, i understand your economic pain. And i want to advance policies that will address those issues. Yeah, certainly a lot for dana to ask, not just the Vice President , but her running mate, that interview due to take place tomorrow in georgia, that is two weeks eva before the scheduled first debate between the Vice President and former President Donald Trump. And theres been a back and forth about the rules. Where does that stand alex, apparently this is still alive issue. The debate over the debates continue here. In a post today, the former president saying that he has agreed to the terms. And the Harris Campaign has as well, where the parameters of this will be similar to the cnn debate in which mics will be muted when the person that is not supposed to be speaking speaks out ive turned those banks will be muted, but the Harris Campaign, they still seem to be trying to litigate this and a statement to us, they said that theyre still negotiating with abc over this issue. And the reason that theyre pressing this alex is because they think that they have a real opportunity here. We know that the Vice President is on message. Hes a disciplined messenger. The former president is not often, and so they are hoping it seems like for some sort of moment here where he might speak out of turn in a way that might benefit her. Yeah, it could really change the dynamic of the debate. So thats why its so important. Gordon you mckend. Thanks so much for kicking us off. Appreciate it our political experts are joining me now with more alex thompson. I want to go to you first in terms of this first interview, how do you see the stakes for Vice President Kamala Harris . I mean, the stakes are incredibly large and im sure dana is going to ask all the tough questions that reporters have been trying to ask. Now for over 30 days, we do have an extraordinary circumstance here where the democratic nominee of the party hasnt sat for one interview beyond social media influencers. Now part of that is because it is extraordinary circumstances where she was not a candidate until july 21 for this office as a result she is really raised the stakes of this interview to a place where now it is huge Breaking News the shes even doing one and what happens . And i dont think that this is going to i can tell you from my perspective, im still going to keep asking for interviews. I know all my colleagues and i was cnn colleagues are going to also continue to ask for interviews. So the fact that shes doing a joint interview with tim walz is also going to be used its to say, well, you have done a solo interview yet, and i expect that to be the case. That being said, she is going to be asked obviously, i am sure about her changing positions on issues like medicare for all on some of the issues on the border. And its going to be really fascinating to watch. Im sure going to be a really newsy interview. It certainly will. Kristen Soltis Soltis anderson, what do you make of what alex just mentioned about the fact that this is now a joint interview with tim walz. And when you when you watch this tomorrow night, what are you going to be looking for in terms of what she needs to accomplish . What im going to be looking for is is she pressed on the cages that she has made in her policy positions from four years ago to explain why she takes new positions on things like a border wall, why she takes new positions on things like Energy Exploration and fracking. She may have very the explanations for why her position has changed, but its time for her to be pressed on those. And i hope and expect that thats what dana bash will do. I do think its great that shes agreed to do this and i think voters will think so as well in my polling, weve asked voters without naming a candidate, do you think its important for candidates for president to do Media Interviews . And nine out of ten republicans and nine out of ten democrats say yes. It was very important that she do this and im glad that she has signed up to do it with dana bash and that interview with dana bash taking place in georgia. I just want to correct myself. That is taking place on thursday, not tomorrow ashley allison, when it comes to interviews that harris has done, shes had some missteps in the past. There was one that stands out. It was with lester holt in 2021 the Trump Campaign has tried to spotlight that interview. I just want to play a little bit of it. Take a look. Do you have any plans to visit the border im hearing guatemala today. At some point we are going to the border. Weve been to the border. So this whole, this whole, this whole thing about the border. Weve been to the border. Weve been to the border. You havent been to the border . And i havent been to europe and i thought i dont understand the point that youre making. My focus is dealing with the root causes of migration maybe some who think that that is not important but it is my firm belief that if we care about whats happening at the border we better care about the root causes ashley the perceived failure of that interview is what adds more importance to this first interview with harrison, she became a candidate. What does harris have to do to avoid another misstep like that one . I think the Vice President will do a great job in this interview. I think shes going to need to connect with the american voters. She had a great Democratic National convention where she introduced herself many books still unclear who she was as Vice President , as many folks are unclear, osu Vice President all right. Its not a job that is always at the front and the spotlight, so shes going to have an opportunity to talk about the policies that she believed. Why shes changed her mind. People are allowed to grow and expand on issues. And i think that she will be up to the challenge. I one thing i just want to point out is that everything at this moment is highstakes. This interview as high stakes every time donald trump steps in front of a microphone, its highstakes. Theyre running for the highest office of the land and so whether itd be an interview or conversation with Content Creators, we need to hear from the Vice President xi agreed to do this interview before the end of the month. She made good on her for word and im excited to hear what she has to say and have the conversation with the american people. Yeah. I know its a terrific point. Everything is highstakes. Theres not much time left in the race, is neck and neck alex, to weeks from today. So after this interview here on cnn, harris and trump org are going to be getting on the Debate Stage Together For The First Time earlier today, the former president trump, the former president posted that the debate will take place with those same rules from the june 25th cnn debate. But the Harris Campaign has now just released a statement saying that the muting of the mics, that important issue about whether those mics well be muted when one candidate is speaking thats still under discussion, alex. So what do you think is going on here in terms of this . Negotiation i mean, its a tempest in a teapot, really in terms of a small detail that youre right, could have huge effects on this, on this race. You know, one thing its not just them getting on the debate stage for the first time. Its actually going be the first time theyve ever met in person, Kamala Harris has been in the same room as donald trump during bring some of his addresses when he was president , but theyve actually never met in person. Thats also going to be interesting in terms of this backandforth with the meeting of the mics you know, its interesting because joe bidens campaign was the one that wanted the muted mics in the first place. After that 2020 debate that sort of went off the rails now that harris is the nominee, you know, they have different priorities. She also has different strengths. You watch that mike pence debate. She was very good at sort of cutting him off and sort of get being able to deliver lines when it wasnt her turn always to speak or when she was speaking in sort of talking over him and then of course, donald trump, as even mentioned earlier, its not the most disciplined communicator and clearly some people ive talked to, some people in the Harris Campaign that think the Biden Campaign aired and asking for those muted mics, given, given Donald Trumps lack of discipline at times and to that point, kristen, what about the internal contradiction within the Trump Campaign . The Trump Campaign saying that they want the mic to be muted than their candidate on the Campaign Trail yesterday saying he didnt mind if they were unmuted, but from the campaigns perspective, if they want those mics muted, do you think, kristen, that thats an admission that they dont trust their candidate not to interrupt harris not necessarily. I mean, i do think setting aside this debate, its certainly the case that donald trump likes to speak, likes to make his voice heard, but i dont think that the muting of the mics is what helps donald trump relative to joe biden in that debate two months ago, i think it was a lot of other factors that made donald trump i come out victorious in that one. Make me a little less nervous. But as ashley said, its all high stakes. And whether the mics were muted or not, youre still going to see if his lips are moving. Youre still going to see if hes trying to interrupt and vice versa. So i think its a big deal is being made out of it, but im not sure that anything that will be the decisive thing in this debate. I think what will be decisive is which candidate has better answers on issues like whos going to bring down the cost of living, whos going to deal with whats going on at the border, whos going to deal with Energy Issues most effectively, those are the things that voters want to hear about much more so than a debate about who is mike does on or not . Yeah, there is certainly a lot to get to in that but of course, a lot of it is also about how the candidates are acting and interacting with each other. So this is a really important issue and conversation to watch want to thank you all for joining me. You can see the exclusive interview in a cnn special Kamala Harris and tim walz, democratic ticket. They are sitting down with dana bash this thursday a at 9 00 p. M. Eastern time only here on cnn and just ahead, democratic strategist James Carville will be joining me here in the situation room. 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Com the backandforth over the upcoming president ial debate took just yet another turn after donald trump claimed today that he agreed to participate under the original rules, which would include microphone muting, the Harris Campaign. Now it says those discussions are still ongoing. Lets get reaction from democratic strategist James Carville. Thanks so much for being with me. I want to get your take on this backandforth over whether these microphones should be muted. Do you think its smart of the trump Trump Campaign to insist that those microphones be muted when the other is speaking and for the Harris Campaign for the insist that the microphones be open i dont think its that big a deal, honestly, and trump needs is to debate. He had to take it all right he instinctively knows that. And its going to give enormous rating. Why . Because it is nothing more than america likes than a train wreck and a saltwater on june 27. So they got tune in and hope to see another train wreck. People just loved train wreck. So lineup alba and the last one thats all was one maybe the biggest ever and therell be watching into the patient, come september 10. But isnt it less of a train wreck if its much more disciplined and you impose that discipline by making sure that will only one candidate can speak at a time. I guess. I mean, i think it would actually i wished it let trump speak over because she is so rude and people dont like it. It she is much better equipped to handle that then sake President Biden was so i any chance any opportunity you give trump trump to be rude i think you should give it to him, but i dont im not im not that hung up bone cut microphone on microphone, anything like i dont think thats particularly determinative here, but im just assume let him give him every opportunity to beat a jerky yes. I assume thats why the Harris Campaign is pushing for those mics to be opened. But then, sir, on this interview that was Just Announced by cnn, the democratic ticket, both harris and walz sitting down with our dana bash on thursday. This is the first formal interview, not just with the candidate herself, but with this ticket since biden stepped down, do you think that there is a mistake that was made by the Harris Campaign by waiting so long to schedule this make this this issue, this, this interview, such an issue not in the least first of all, shes had a little over five weeks to put together campaign to merge to kevin coaches to plan to convention to pick a Vice President to go through all of that in, you know, shes going to sit down and do it shes gonna do about await trump and vance hadnt been the same state since the Republican Convention but i think all of this whining about sitting down and doing a long form interview or Press Conference it actually would turn to people. All she said now shes doing it could do to cnn its a big get absolutely 100 sure that dalots could do a good job on it. And thank god, i dont have to listen to just garbage in the background anymore, but you got to sit down and do a long form interview if you dont live with is okay. Now from doing it well, it will certainly give the voters an opportunity to see her pressed and dana will do no doubt great job on pressing on some of these important issues and including on the economy. Of course, a central issue of any Campaign Donald trump has made this a central part of his Campaign Messaging against Kamala Harris. And then we have this new poll which is really quite interesting trumps advantage over Kamala Harris on the economy is eroding. He had been leading now there is no clear leader on who voters prefer to handle the economy. That three point lead that is within the margin of error. You can see 43 to 40 right there within the margin of error but if you go back to late july, so just a month ago, trump had an 11 point advantage on this issue. So theres quite a significant swing. What do you make of that . These on the economy are not static they change that fluid. And i think it will change even better if all my financial friends, child me know if the fed cuts rates in september, because if people will have some hope and Interest Rates are coming down, so it will affect it by the way, that echelon poll, which is kind of republican leaning group, that it would pop. Shes tistrength. Its amazing that that was from biggest advantage. I know people that would poll trump and they it looked strong leader was the most important internal, it would look at shes already matched that, which i think is extraordinarily good news is you remember bill clintons as people would rather lead it a strong and wrong and weaken right . Maybe she can pull off a twofer here and do both i dont know. Well see well see how she does its a big interview that dana has people are going to Pay Attention to and watching this debate is going to be huge, huge yeah, it is certainly a big interview. 9 00 p. M. Right here on cnn on thursday with dana bash, James Carville has always appreciate your perspective. Thanks for coming out. Thank you. Alright. Coming up, Breaking News, new reporting on how donald trump is reacting to the superseding indictment filed against him in the election subversion case. Plus how Special Counsel jack smith revised that indictment against the former president. Stay with us. Youre in the situation everything you want is right. Tear the disney plus hulu max bundle i usually just take out but im trying to be more of an adult learn how to actually cook, w. H. O. 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Prosecutors have just filed a revised indictment, slimming down the allegations against trump, while maintaining the original charges lets get more from our senior crime and justice reporter, katelyn polantz. So kaitlan, how is Special Counsel jack smith retailers this indictment against trump . Well, alex, their pairing it down so they can keep it alive to try to take this case against donald trump to trial. Theyre focusing on what donald trump was doing after the the election as a candidate for office, rather than things he was doing when he had his president ial hat on either getting briefings speaking within the white house, talking to Senior Executive branch advisers, and instead, now the case is its all about Candidate Trump talking with his campaign, being told by his campaign that there was no fraud and the election, that he should have known that. And then using private people, private attorneys, private advisers to try and spread election lies. Get mike pence than the Vice President to block the certification of the election. Now, they have to walk a fine line here though, because pence was his Vice President , but hes still part of this case. Alex and the Justice Department says the donald trump had no official responsibilities related to the certification proceeding, but he did have a personal interests as a candidate and being named the winner of the election. All of the conversations between the defendant, trump and Vice President mike pence, just described below, focused on the defendant maintaining power so theyre trying to put pence in the different bucket of being the president of the senate during that certification of the vote, rather than somebody in Donald Trumps own administration . So kaitlan, what comes next . How are you expecting this to unfold . Well, everybody is going to have to figure out if what the Justice Department is doing here is in line with what the Supreme Court says about president ial immunity. The way they will do it. The next thing we are likely to hear is were going to hear both from trumps side and from the Special Counsels office laying out what they think the next steps should be. Theres a filing due on friday to judge Tanya Chutkan in the trial court in federal court, Washington Dc see theyll have to propose some timelines and then theres a hearing before judge chutkan scheduled for next thursday. Donald trump will very likely be putting in another not guilty plea. We dont expect him to be there at that hearing but there is going to be a lot of discussion about how fast should things move forward and what does the court need to do to decide can the pence stuff in this case remain in our theyre going to have to be hearings. Will there have to be witnesses . Will someone like pence or even mark meadows, the chief of staff to trump, whos cut out of this largely well, they have to take the stand before any trial. A long road ahead, and even things in the coming days, alex certainly is going to pull answer has been wading through this revised indictment by jack smith. Thanks very much for all that reporting. Lets bring in cnns Kristen Holmes, who is covering the Trump Campaign. Kristen trump just posted on his social media platform, truth, social about the indictment. What did he say . I mean, its more like what did he not say . This is a real novel here he posted on truth, social probably longer than, or at least the same length that the indictment himself. But essentially he does a lot of the greatest heads. He says that this is an effort to resurrect a dead witch hunt in Washington Dc you see he calls it an act of desperation. He refers to jack smith as deranged, something he has done multiple times in the past. He calls it a ridiculous new indictment, and then he goes on to talk about how the florida case was dismissed. I think probably the most interesting part about this, but not surprising, is the fact that he is officially moved over two. The fact that this is Election Interference on the side of Kamala Harris. Obviously, we heard for months and months and months about how this was, quote, Unquote Biden Election Interference. Now obviously he has a new opponent and now it is Kamala Harriss Election Interference. I will tell you that he is getting briefed on this by a lot of his own Legal Advisers because i spoke to some of them earlier today who said the exact same thing. They are angry at the fact that this was brought so close to the election. I will say this is the oneline im going to read. This is now camillas weaponized system against her political opponents, something weve heard before, alex. All right. Kristen holmes with the trump response to this revised indictment. Thanks very much. Joining me now, are our legal experts to break this down even further, joan biskupic, i want to go to you first because so much of this comes back to the Supreme Court. Their ruling in early july about president ial immunity how is jack smith now with this revised indictment trying to get around what the Supreme Court said. Sure. Alex and its a strong recasting of the original indictment, but there are hurdles ahead simply because of the way chief justice john roberts, who wrote for the majority, described official shell acts. Remember that he drew a line between official and unofficial acts and said for anything that it was official, there would be a presumption, if not absolute immunity. So youve got thats why its so important that distinction. And then he expansively defined what would cover, what constant to tune in official act, essentially saying just about anything within the outer perimeter of a president s duties. So its a very expansive definition that he writes of official acts. Now i should say that one of the individuals in that majority, Justice Amy Coney barrett she wrote a Concurring Statement that tried to give a path forward and to say, look, this really went all is said and done, is sort of narrowly construing the kind of immunity would that would be here and giving a little bit more of a roadmap and i think that if that jack smith has done all he can to say that so many of these actions that would amount to election subversion in his mind actually were taken as Candidate Trump and is trying to make that case as strong as possible. And i think that someone like Justice Barrett would go for it, maybe the chief in the end would. But i just want to remind people well also what they dissenters said when they saw the chiefs standard, Justice Sonia sotomayor writing for the three liberal dissenters, said that the way the chief and the majority had construed the Dividing Line between unofficial and official acts. It reduced unofficial acts to almost nobody. Andrew mccabe, what stands out to you, looking at this revised indictment, how effective do you think this argument by jack smith is going to be you know, its remarkable, alex, i think this is basically jack smith saying, i still got this, right. Theres hes basically sanitize the original indictment a bit. Hes taking out those things that joan mentioned that were clearly called out in the Supreme Court decision as being well within the scope of official acts. Hes dropped the doj stuff. Hes also made an effort to characterize the other coconspirators not the coconspirator who we believe was jeffrey clark. Hes been notably left out. But the other coconspirators, he is characterized them as private attorneys are consultants really trying to cabin people often to these nonofficial, nongovernment roles, which i think is accurate remarkable to me that hes left in the 15 12, c2 count that was the count that the Supreme Court addressed in the fischer case that came out just before the immunity decision. Many people thought that he might have some trouble keeping that count in. Clearly, jack smith believes that the indictment is built around enough pieces of evidence, specifically the Fraudulent Elector ballots that will that will help that count survive. So hes really not taken a lot out. Hes brought the same very strong case will see what happens after it goes through this process with judge chutkan and the trump attorneys to detroit firm and specifically, what evidence remains at play. So jennifer rodgers, it appears that what smith is trying to do here is to take a lot and put it outside the orbit of the office of the presidency the Special Counsel arguing also that the former Vice President his Vice President , mike pence, that his role in certifying the Election Results was ceremonial, not part of his duties as Vice President. You think thats going to work . Yeah. Thats the big question to me is the thing thats closest to the line, was he wearing his hat of Vice President or was he wearing the hat of the president of the senate when this Pressure Campaign was going on. And thats where i think jack smith may have the most trouble on appeal and even perhaps initially with joe judge chutkan, in where that conduct falls. Otherwise, i think theyve done a good job of kind of laying out the official versus unofficial, but i agree with your observation, alex, this really is the thing where i think they might have the most trouble and were at the starting line. So, judge chutkan will have the first crack after donald trump and his lawyers move to dismiss it this indictment at saying whether the this new superseding indictment passes muster or not, they may have to go back to the Drawing Board on that very issue that you point out. But were at the starting line and well see now again what happens as soon as this is under consideration by the court . In terms of those risks that jennifer just mentioned, ankush khardori, what dangerous do you see in this new approach by jack smith . Well, look, i think he actually took what i would view as a relatively conservative approach to interpreting the Supreme Courts decision. And i think the right approach in terms of drawing the lines that the Supreme Court has asked them to draw remains to be seen as everyone has noted, how the judge will move forward here. I mean, look, the risk here is it originated with the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court created entirely new tests. It is a nebulous test as a folksy have already noted, hard to wrap your arms around and they didnt do a particularly good job of explaining to the parties or the judge what types of evidence should be adduced to kind of figure out what what sort of conduct is on the official side versus the unofficial line. So i think jack smith and his team have done a good job here, but theres still all this uncertainty that emanates from the Supreme Courts decision that has really put this case in limbo sort of mostly between now and november, well see if jack smith wants to move forward with some evidentiary hearings. I think that would be a good idea because i think the public wants this information but i think its just important as we sort of think about this. To recall that you know, this is a very big year, is a very important election. This case is at stake in the election because if trump wins, its going away. If trump loses to harris, this case is going to proceed to some sort of conclusion and we did just hear part of trumps outrage, at least adamson from our Kristen Holmes posted on truth social how do you think the Trump Legal Team needs to be thinking about this . Is this in some ways a win or do you see this as a loss for him look, i think its yet to be determined because we have to see how judge chutkan ultimately rules on this superseding indictment because after the Trump Team Moves to dismiss the indictment, which we expect they will then to anku she is point theyre going to have to have evidentiary hearings or at least a hearing on whether or not the judge agrees with the Special Counsels Office Framing of a lot of these acts as official or unofficial acts if donald trump prevails on those arguments, then i think it would be considered a win for him if he loses. Well, then clearly he will take that as a loss. Although i think we can expect to see an Interlocutory Appeal goes back to the Supreme Court and that it might ultimately be a win. Today, hes thinking of it as a loss because its making headlines. Its not what he wants during this election season and this case is still alive but ultimately, how that pans out, its yet to be seen. Yeah. Certainly a lot more to come in this case. A lot of new details in this are remarkable move by the Special Counsel thank you all for joining me on this Breaking News coming up. We will get reaction to the Breaking News for a former member of the january 6 select committee, congressman zoe lofgren is standing say what monday night, a twohour whole story special. The candidates and their record on key issues of the election season. What does their past tell us about how they will meet the whole story with Anderson Cooper monday starting at 8 00 on cnn but the games are pumping. The markets closed. Features dont sleep in the after hours. 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Right now, im joined by a former member of the january 6, select committee, congresswoman zoe lofgren, congresswoman. Thank you so much for being with me on this Breaking News suits. You were a member of the january 6 committee when you look at this revised indictment by jack smith what do you make of it as he tries to slim things down and its prospects for move, his prospects for moving the case forward whats very responsible . I mean, the Supreme Court made really radical decision granting trump immunity, bizarre case but its the case. So mr. Smith has to accommodate his indictment to that case, and theres two elements to it. One is the acts themselves and of course the other is what evidence can be used. Hes properly taken out. The communication with jeff clark, the court said specifically that that could not be used as evidence theres another issue here which is the obstruction of an official proceeding. Theres an additional case, fischer case that sheds some doubt on whether that statute can be utilized, even though the plain language is clear, the Supreme Court rewrote the law, essentially went beyond what the statute said. So maybe that case can be made, will see as the additional evidence comes in, but clearly, the judge has to have an evidentiary hearing to find out what is the evidence supporting the slimmed down indictment. But i mean, one thing is abundantly clear. The former president s summoned a mob to washington. Knowing they were armed he said all right, i think were having trouble with the congresswomans audio yet weve lost her. We will try to get her back lots of discuss on this Breaking News. But in the meantime, coming up, why Supreme Court Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson says that she is concerned about the Supreme Courts Immunity Ruling that they made back in july. That is so pivotal to this revised indictment that we got today from jack smith will discuss that next. 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As prepared as anyone can be let me ask you, are you prepared for all of the news cycle youre getting as a result of this no. Exactly i think there are legal issues that arise out of the political process. And so the Supreme Court has to be prepared to respond if that should be necessary. Lets bring back cnns joan biskupic. So joan, what do you make of these comments from the justice . Well, you know, first of all it was that interview was taped before we had todays big news with Special Counsel jack smith reframing his indictment. But its still really interesting to have a Supreme Court justice speaking out about a case off the bench without the black robe. And, her comments to norah odonnell, did reinforce what she said in a separate dissent back on july 1 Justice Jackson is our newest member of the court and instead of just signing on to the dissent written by more senior Justice Sonia sotomayor, which usually is what happens if for these dissents, she wrote her own, she wrote a separate one that talked about the importance of accountability for the president and her her concern that she said was that the you know, that theres the model of accountability, theres a paradigm of how the country would hold the Chief Executive to account. And that the Majority Opinion here was flying in the face of that. So she didnt say anything new. Its just that were getting her in this new context. Alex and joan, she also wrote a book, how unusual is it for a sitting justice to be putting out a book like this and making comments like these. Well, theyre all Writing Books these days. Let me just tell you that neil gorsuch has written a book, Brett Kavanaugh is working on a book. Sonia sotomayor, my or had written a book. Clarence thomas had written a book. I could go on, but whats different here, alex, is that she just came on the court in 2020 so she signed this contract pretty quickly to write about her personal journey to the Supreme Court and its as we understand it, and i havent seen the book yet. It comes out on tuesday its more about her personal story. It isnt really about the court, but it will still something that will be interesting to us. Justice sotomayor, who has a very distinctive story herself is the first hispanic woman on the Supreme Court. Justice jackson is the first africanamerican woman on the Supreme Court. Justice sotomayor wrote a book in 2013, which came about four years after her bike men, they both have compelling stories and itll be interesting to see how Justice Jackson portrays her life and all also what she says in these interviews that im sure alex well be seeing more of. In fact, cnn, well have an interview with Justice Jackson down the road and well see how much youll talk about what the court is up to and not just her life story quite prolific, those justices dont biskupic. Thanks very much. Thank you. Coming up the significant details quite remarkable about how israel says it rescued a hostage alive five, on the Sprawling Hamas Tunnels Under Gaza the pros for Have I Got News For You . Pretty odd. One of the cons we could run on the news before then would never happen if i got news for you. The mere saturday, september 14, hi, on cnn and streaming next day on my admin mobile. We like to do the opposite of what big wireless does. They charge you a lot we charge you a little. 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All codys taking his first steps of freedom after 326 days of captivity and Israeli Military helicopter has landed in gaza to take him to israel back his family. Moments earlier, alqadri was rescued by Israeli Special forces who were combing through a network of tunnels in southern gaza. We cannot go into many details of this special operation but i can share that israeli commandos Rescued Guide for connell caddie from an Underground Tunnel following accurate intelligence, ill county is the first israeli hostage to be rescued by Israeli Forces operating in those tunnels. Seven others who have been rescued were being held above ground and Israeli Military official said the forces found out kotey alone without his captors at soroka medical center. Each step brings these his men that much closer to the brother they feared might never return alive running toward the war of a helicopter delivering there fiftytwoyearold brother back into their arms. Ill kotey has visibly lost weight, but doctors say he is in good medical condition. His family is overjoyed with him clash as it is a joy that cannot be explained. His Brother Hatem says more than the joy you get from a newborn baby. This is a man who has been resurrected ill call it a member of israels minority bedouin community. Now on the phone with the israeli Prime Minister. Thanking him for getting him home. And reminding him that other hostages are still waiting is really Prime Minister currently engaged in Ceasefire Negotiations tells me is committed to returning everyone without exception and alex, the clock is certainly ticking for those remaining 108 hostages still held in gaza, about a third of whom have already been confirmed dead by the israeli government. And for those who are alive though, its very clear to most people in Israeli Society that it wont be these Military Operations that will return them home only eight hostages have so far been rescued alive from gaza by the Israeli Military. Instead, that will happen through a negotiated settlement. And we know that those ongoing ceasefire and hostage deal released negotiations are ongoing right now. They have been happening in cairo. We expect that they are going to move to doha next. But the question still remains of political will on both both sides and whether or not these negotiations will actually lead to a deal. Alex, and whether those remaining gaps can be bridged
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