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Thats of course, for days from now. And this will be a major moment for the Vice President who spent her fiveweek campaign doing mainly scripted events and it comes as she prepares for another crucial postconvention moment, the september 10 debate with donald trump which will hopefully remain on the schedule. Cnns eva mckend has been talking to the Harris Campaign so eva, what are you hearing . Or mano, they are leaning into an economy first message, we see that with particularly emphasis on lowering housing costs, the Vice President says the Housing Shortage can be addressed by building 3 million new homes and rentals scholes. That seems to be a way that campaign is trying to thwart the persistent criticism from all corners regarding the lack of a sitdown interview and the absence of aggressive questions from the press ian sams, a campaign adviser, speaking to us earlier this week and he said that she is in fact going to sit down for an interview you at the end of the month and then he also nor noted in their defense that she is regularly taking questions from reporters on the Campaign Trail that isnt sort of a fulsome interview though, that would answer these big Policy Questions like why she has shifted on immigration, and that is something that the press really has desire to have answers for. Meanwhile, though, the Vice President and minnesota governor tim walz, theyre going to be launching a bus tour across south georgia tomorrow, Concluding With A Thursday Night Rally around savannah, georgia, of course, remains a critical battleground state. And while there is tremendous focus on voters of color and urban centers theres they are also focused on capturing those voters. So key to the Democratic Coalition in Rural Communities as well, manu, all right, eva mckend, thank you for that report and joining me now at the table are some fantastic reporters covering all of this nprs tamara keith, the wall street journals catherine lucey, cnns daniel strauss, and cnns kristen holmes. Nice to see all of you look, she could have come out and had a some more interviews early on. Of course, the democrats will defend our position on this saying, look, shes just a candidate. She had to prepare for van can we had to get all of the machinery of a campaign in place in a matter of days. Fine. Thats true, but also someone whos been on the publics seen for some time in can answer questions as well formulated positions. But by waiting this long, its really built. So the pressure on this moment for the Vice President which it reminds me of the pressure that was built on President Biden when he was, when his campaign was struggling and everybody was like, well, what is he going to do an interview . When is he going to do an interview . He finally didnt interview. It was fine. It didnt really change things much but really harris throughout her very shortly and pain has been having a oneway conversation. It has not been a twoway conversation. She has been able to control the outgoing message and hasnt really had to deal with a lot of incoming. She has done these quick gaggles by the by air force two or in the hotel where its rapid fire questions, rapidfire answer is no time for followup and president s love to do that. Former President Trump likes to do it. President biden likes to do it. You know, its chopper talk and that puts the candidate or the president in the drivers seat because they are choosing the question they ask and they can walk away when they want the camera is not rolling actively here settings right . Its very different. Taking a couple of questions on a tarmac is very different. A full sit down interview where there is backandforth for someone pushes you on past positions but also, i think this is in some ways an extension of the biden approach to interviews, which was there was a lot of skepticism in his campaign and his white house about the utility of traditional interviews with traditional outlets like ours certainly for harris shes had a month of largely positive press. They have been pushing their message out. Theyve just gotten through the dnc and so i think there is this sense of east among some people are under that they are they have a lot of Forward Momentum without inner yeah. And thats the thing its the incentive to continue on doing this. The polls are looking great. It looks she has been inherently a very cautious politician. I mean, i interviewed him many times as a senator asking you a questions and her sidestepping those questions because shes doesnt take sometimes a sort of positions because hes worried if you take a certain position, youre going to get hammered for it. But then if youre very cautious, youre getting hammered for it as well. So do we think that her approach will be different now as the president ial nominee and not having as not being the running mate, having to serve the president for i dont know if theres enough time for her to take a dramatically different approach. And so far, the incentives for her to stay the courts have been pretty positive for her. Its not like ive heard democrats say, why should we rush to do an interview we like how the narrative is going right now. We like that we are on offense. Why change that . And its clear that republicans in this moment want an interview and want her to trip up as she has in the past and then clip that and push that out. And they are really hoping that this burst of enthusiasm for is just a bubble. And of course thats what the trump and Vance Campaign absolutely want because they need to change their narrative, which has been going against them really since he jumped into the race. But look, there are things that she has said in the past that shes going to have to answer for and then she suggested or campaign has suggested she has changed her position on the issue of fracking. For instance, she said that before in the past in 2019, when she was a primary candidate running for the democratic nomination, he said she was opposed to fracking. Shes changed her position on that issue. Medicare for all singlepayer health care. She had there have been opened and medicare for all. Now go campaign is saying background mean not necessarily on the record. Now from the candidate herself, that she is no longer in favor of that. Those are complicated questions you have to explain how she reconciles are current views with our past fields. And i was actually thinking about that today, about how different this is just given the unprecedented that nature, because she didnt have to go through a primary yes, she did. Back in 2020, but this time around, she didnt have that almost immediate recollection of the American Voter of her talking about Ending Fracking of her talking about these farther left policies that was now what, four years ago and we know that the American Voters memory is very short. She has this opportunity to kind of change the narrative because there is not this instant recollection of something she just said in january of this year. But again, as you said, there are still questions about how you can go from a to b particularly make those kind of tight turns at a time where obviously pencil well then you might be the most critical state fracking very important in pennsylvania to change your opinion on that and then not answer questions. And thats obviously what youre hearing from republicans and the Trump Campaign. Im not sure that the narrative is loud enough from republicans and the Trump Campaign at this point to try and force for to do something, as you said, democrats are pretty happy with the way things are going right now. But she has now said that shes going to do an interview by the end of the month were getting to the pretty meantime, i want to turn to what you have some new reporting about the Trump Transition Tier about some of the new people on trump including rfk junior, who said that over the weekend, there was no sort of quid pro quo, no deal, and the like, but it turns out that both Tulsi Gabbard, a former democrat who is now endorsing trump and rfk junior have a role in at least selecting the next people in the government . Yeah, theyre going to have a big role in this the Transition Team has four people so far, so adding them to a fourperson team, making it six people, thats a pretty substantial amount of weight that theyre carrying. And it will tell you part of this is because theyre trying to reach they being the Trump Campaign, the damage for graphic that does support Tulsi Gabbard, that does support rfk, which they believe is a pretty similar demographic obviously, both of them, once progressive democrats now have shifted Conservative Rfk most, the most substantial stiffing supporting donald trump in this election, but they also were trying to make those voters that Tulsi Gabbard, the rfk voters, voters who dont usually go to the polls. Remember, go to the polls in november, the question is, how do you do that . And part of thats going to be saying, well, they have a role now in the administration, so its not just oh, they like me theyre going to help the people you like if you elect me are going to help put the other people you like into my administration. So theyre trying to go a step further because they want to drive those independents to vote independence again, who they see that 6 , theyve done to actually show up, but that could give harris something so certainly, i mean, the oppo file on both gabbard and rfk junior is massive. The other question about the transition is, as you might remember, the Trump Campaign had a robust Transition Plan in 2016 put together by chris christie. It was thrilling now, and it turned you know, the partnership for Public Service did a call yesterday. They described the 2016 transition as one of the worst transitions ever in part because the transition was thrown out so this is a great honorific that is being bestowed on these people, right now. Will they actually be selecting the government or they make an imaginary document that will go anywhere, i guess well find out to keep them happy exactly right. Yes. A big part of it is showing showing right. It does rfk junior in the trump camp have any impact on this race . I mean, i think to the point about vote, there there are there are voters out there who are interested in rfk. There are independent voters. Theyre trying to pull in. We saw in polls that there was an rfk vote, right . So the question is going to wear to those folks. Go. How many of them are going to show up . I mean, i think a lot of those things is there unclear and i think we need to see more polling but certainly at certain points in the campaign, he was pulling a decent amount and polls. So i think there were, but that also some of that was a universe where people were unhappy with both biden and with trump. The plates have shifted yeah. Ive kept an eye. Well, well see if well will happen, then well see if theres going to be a debate on september 10, still debate over the debate, of course, as well. All right. 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Com im tom foreman in washington. And this is cnn the Israeli Military says it has rescued two hostage from gaza, held there since hamass deadly attack on october 7 carried for on a coyote, 52yearold father of 11 is now being reunited with his family you can see him here in the hospital today with his brother. Cnn International Correspondent Jeremy Diamond joins us live from tel aviv so jeremy, what more do we know about the man rescued and the Mission Together . Well for 326 days, this man, a 52yearold father of 11, was being held hostage by hamas inside the gaza strip. And today in a its very successful rescue operation, the Israeli Military rescuing him from an underground tunnel in Southern Gaza we dont have a ton of details about the nature of this operation. This is only the fourth time that these really military has successfully rescued hostages alive from gaza. But it is the first time that have seen them do so in an underground operation and all of the other cases, the hostages were rescued from aboveground locations in homes and buildings in the gaza strip. Now once he was rescued from that tunnel, we then saw video of him with Israeli Soldiers and what appears to be a home or a building in the gaza strip. And then he was taken by helicopter to Soroka Medical Center in southern israel, where doctors theyre evaluated him to be in good medical condition. Thats also where he was finally reunited with his loved ones, including several of his brothers, who said that they had started to lose hope that their brother might even return from gaza alive. And then suddenly today they got the phone call that they had been waiting for for nearly 11 months telling them to go to Soroka Medical Center where they were finally able to embrace their brother, were told that he asked about about his other Family Members. He was told that everyone is doing well and now he will be recovering at that hospital for a couple of days, most likely. And then finally turning home with his family our Jeremy Diamond from tel aviv. Thank you so much and new cnn reporting this morning shows the extent to which Election Officials and companies have had to overhaul their approach to novembers election following the avalanche of disinformation over the outcome of the 2020 race, are Marshall Cohen is out today with this scarred by 2020 smears, Voting Companies and Election Officials brace for november. Marshall joins us now, is right here thanks for joining me. This afternoon. Its great to see you. This has been really well reported. That story died to roughly a dozen or so Election Officials. What are you learning which are big . Take away about what is happening now that could be different what happened in 20 after 2020 nothing will ever be the same for Election Workers and the Voting Companies that do the hard work of administering our elections where millions and millions of people just take for granted that the stuff goes on behind the scenes. These were largely anonymous companies, nobody new these companies or new. Theyre secretary of state, but after 2020 with the disinformation from donald trump and his allies, they were all catapulted to the forefront of the Disinformation Wars in the political battles. So theyre trying to have a better outcome this time around manu and weve heard so much about the Defamation Cases that Dominion Voting Systems and other companies have brought against fox news and Rudy Giuliani and other trump allies. They could get a big pay the off that. But theyre also hoping to send a deterrent message. If you lie this time around, we may come after you again, youll have there might be held to pay another company thats even bigger than dominion called ess. I learned that they actually imposed a background checks on their own employees, forcing everybody to undergo social media scrubbing. They wanted to make sure that nobody had any social media posts that were overtly political or endorsing candidates because they dont want that stuff to be weaponized in the future. They even had a Training Session for their employees money when you go back home thanksgiving dinner, or when youre around the dinner table with your family heres what you say to your friends and Family Members when they peppered with questions about 20 20 interesting. And you also said, you heard from one official in michigan who said that the 2020 election deniers are actually still looking at for voter fraud from 2020, what did you learn from that episode . Theyre still looking for years later. I havent found it yet know because theres nothing to find election wasnt rigged i talked to barb of byram. She is the election official top election official in lansing, michigan, and she said that her office has just been inundated with Public Records request foia requests from what she believes are people being ramped up from rightwing disinformation that think that yes, we can just find the fraud. So it is taken her office a lot of time to go through these requests because by law, you have to answer. Sey says she told me that theyre pulling time away from the actual election administration. They get her on the phone. They have 1 million conspiracies. They want to talk about. They have to send the staff to go pull all these records. Its a wild goose chase when they actually have a real job to do diverting resources. Thats interesting and marshall, you write about Dominion Voting Systems illusion of course went after fox news. And that led to the historic 787 million defamation settlement. Fox news had to settle with dominion over those false election claims, but there was threats of physical violence that threads that occurred. There for dominion, but its also part of a larger issue about personal safety for some of these Election Officials, right . Yeah. And there has been an exodus of Election Workers that just did not want to put up with the abuse this time around, both for the people that are still working they critical part of our democracy. So we should be grateful to them. They have beefed up their physical security at their offices. Theyve invested more than ever on the security. I spoke to one company that said that its selling 1,500 wearable Panic Buttons into Election Officials like life alert, you press the button, it calls nine on won that Election Officials and Election Workers at the polls can aware when the polls are open in case anybody tries to cause any trouble or starts a scene there. And some of these companies, manu, who have even brought in dhs to come look at their own internal cyber protections because they know everyones going to be coming after them if they dont like the result in november. Lets hope it doesnt happen. Interesting reporting. Thank you for much for breaking. It said marshall and coming up for us can special cohen, counsel . Jack smith revived trumps classified documents case. Theyve got all the latest on trumps criminal cases. Thats next we find the best wrestlers we bring them here live. Its pods biggest sale of the summer, save up to 25 on moving in storage for limited time in cy policy it has been trusted with over 6 million moves, but dont wait, use promo code, big 25 to save visit hot. Com today when youre the leader is as the clean up and restoration how do you make like an never even happened . Happened brand whatever comes your way. Theres a pro for that serve like never even happened whats puttygen lightheadedness. 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Switch today 5 and get 50 instantly, raspy, run your gay Laura Coates Live tonight at 11 eastern on cnn Special Counsel, jack smith, fighting back after judge Aileen Cannon dismissed the criminal classified documents case against donald trump in a forceful new filing. Hes asking an Appeals Court to overrule her decision, and that cannons quote, Novel Conclusions lack merit. Lets just want to several significant legal developments involving the former president that were watching this week joining me now to break this all down, cnn senior crime and justice reporter katelyn polantz, and cnn senior legal analyst, elie honig. Nice to see you both great legal news is back. Were back with i appreciate that okay. So lets start with the new filing here. Tell us a little bit about what jack smiths argument he is. Youre in would do you think it will have any merit when the Appeals Court . Well, the top line manu is they want to revive the criminal case against donald trump around classified documents. They want want that to go to trial still, even though the judge dismissed it there at the Appeals Court. Now just said that the Special Counsel lacks Constitutionality Total to get dismissed. Close the case, the Appeals Court will now look at whether that reasoning was right, but what they have to do here and what theyre doing in a very lengthy and pretty forceful filing with a lot of history a lot of lot of back them up is to say, hey, let us do our thing. Weve been doing it for decades, even back to after the civil war. And what we want to do is be able to use special investigators, special prosecutors. One of the things that theyre arguing is that if this decision from Aileen Cannon stands at Appeals Courts endorsed her thinking that its not constitutional to have a Special Counsel, then that could cut out all kinds of abilities of the people in power to appoint people. A quote, if the Attorney General lacks the power to appoint inferior officers, that conclusion would invalidate the appointment of every member of the Department Of Justice who exercises significant authority and occupies a continuing office. So big ideas here that the Appeals Courts can have to look out months from now. And do you think that has merit, elie and also, if the Appeals Court sides with jack smith, how quickly will this go to trial . So i do think jack smith is ultimately going to win here as of this moment as we sit here, the case is dead. It is this is the classified documents case. Its been dismissed, but i think its going to be revitalized. I think its going to be put back on track by the Court Of Appeals. And heres why Donald Trumps not the first person to make this argument. Plenty of people whove been the subject of Special Counsel investigations and prosecutions have argued before this whole scheme is unconstitutional because Congress Never specifically he said, okay, doj, you now have a position called Special Counsel, but that arguments been rejected or is rejected. A molar. It was rejected in one of the hunter biden case. Its been rejected by an Appeals Court. Judge. Cannon is actually the first one to accept it. And the reason that it has passed constitutional matters because there are various laws passed by congress that say the ag can delegate his power, his authority, basically, however necessary to carry out his goal. So i think the 11th circuit will probably reverse this. And if not, it could well go to the Supreme Court. I dont know either way it could go to the Supreme Court. I dont even think the Supreme Court is going to go with trump on this one. It meantime, of course, there are several legal cases involving the former president , one in georgia, the election subversion virgin racketeering case. This is just mired in all sorts of problems for the prosecution. Fani willis is facing a lot of pressure here to be dismissed from this case include from the Trump Legal Team that made this case just yesterday. What is their argument to try to get her off the case . Yeah. Theyre really digging into say that she just has not been a fair prosecutor and theyre in this appeal keel to try and get that case essentially, its on ice right now, but to get it frozen for years, if if even if we come back indefinitely, right. And so what theyre digging into specifically as fani willis having given a speech at a historically black church in georgia where she spoke about being a prosecutor who was black and the trump team is saying that shes injecting racism into a highprofile trial, and that should not have happened. Thats not what the judge at the trial level said. He said that she could stay on the case, but it is going to be before an Appeals Court. And what is the likelihood she gets to i think theres a big problem here for fani willis and i think the problem is bigger than her being dismissed. I think the whole case could get thrown out because what trumps arguing in the brief he filed yesterday is my fundamental Constitutional Rights were violated. Here we have an elected da, a person who had already been warned by the way, by a judge about her extra judicial outside of Court Statements that they could be prejudicial to the defendants. And she goes in a church in her county where the jury will be drawn from and makes this wildly inflammatory, inappropriate speech essentially blaming the defendants, calling them racist. That is outrageous. And that could well get this case dismissed. So i think theres a real problem here for the da, and i think i think we may have seen the end of this case. I think theres a chance that Court Of Appeals just says prosecutorial misconduct. Its done. So meantime, theres another great case but yeah, its we are not god bring goods, no federal election subversion case. Of course, its been on ice as this bound over immunity took place before the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court sided with donald trump, who just a reminder, the viewers, just to look at the charges against donald trump in that Election Interference Case is still pending and theres a big hearing next week, elie, what do you expect from this hearing . And this is probably about jack smith really trying to reconcile that Supreme Court ruling with this kate, the charges against this, this is the biggest of all the cases. This is the Washington Dc Federal Case brought by jack smith relating to january 6 and 2020 elections aversion. This is the case that the u. S. Supreme court, back in july essentially gutted with their immunity ruling, and they werent super specific, but they said a lot of this case is going to be immune and needs to be pulled out of it. And now we begin the very complicated really first time its ever been done, process of jack smith and trumps defense team, and the judge having to sit through this indictment and decide, okay. Whats immune whats out of this case . And what can stay in and look friday, jack smith has to put in a Written Submission where he suggests what they do. The thing im looking for is, does jack smith asked for an evidentiary hearing because if he does, that could happen pretty quickly preelection. And we can see some pretty explosive tests while the Appeals Courts cases and the other cases guard gonna go on for months and months. Well hear a Little Things then filings. Friday and then into next week. Its on again, were gonna be talking a lot about the january 6 case against Donald Trump In Federal Court in washington, the wrong political time for for trump. Interesting that the evidentiary and could take place before november not a trial, not a verdict, but evidence. Theres not going to be a trial which will also be conventionally politically problematic for all right. Elie and kaitlan. Thank you so much for joining me up next for us. Your paycheck may depend on tax cuts, tax hikes, housing, groceries, and gas prices. 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Clearly they recognize this is a vulnerability as the Canopy Election polls have said that trump is doing better than losing the eyes of voters than harris and they see this as a key issue to hit them. Thats right. Even as the polls have tightened since harris became the nominee, trump still pauls better in lot of cases on the economy let me people trust him more on the economy. And so they are looking particularly at prices, and housing and this this ad is why he targeted the people in some of those Battleground States that are really hurting in terms of Housing Prices and rent prices. And she is proposing a couple of different things. This is a hard one to move the ball on as, you know, just policywise, theres only so much a president can do to Impact Housing prices are affected by Market Forces in Interest Rates Zip Tie Rate Cut in september impact people by november, any one of the things hes trying to do obviously is one of the one of the issues is theres a real shortage of Housing Stock and so she is trying to find ways to incentivize more Housing Units more and more availability of housing so how will it will work, i think is an open question, but she is very directly trying to address what they see as a key issue the question is how voters view how she has dealt with the economy, her role the economy right now this is among independent voters that a cbs news poll tested asking them about how much did harris a decision as vp impact the economy . A lot, or some thats about 50 . Theyre about 50 say not much or nuns about half and half of the electorate say she didnt have some say he, cielo parole, big role on her said she didnt have a role. If your had the Harris Campaign, do you want to say that you had a big role or do you want to say that the president had a big role . Harris is entire campaign is about being forward looking and being chased candidate. Well, to talk about the future future and thats in contrast to her predecessor as the democratic nominee, where biden really wanted to depend on his record in the past. Now republicans where at that point in the cycle where its not the Biden Administration is the bidenHarris Administration, right . And republicans true or not are will jump on any for tunity to say harris was involved in this, harris said she was the last person in the room, so she definitely made that decision. And thats what were going to hear for the next 200 days, less than 100 days, i suspect what its good news harris will say they Harris Administration might. Otherwise its the Biden Administration response again, is it just my cynical view of some of the world, here . But nonetheless, how to voters also view harris versus trump about their handling of some of these key issues, food and Grocery Prices, what will happen if they go, if they win among independent voters . Again 50 of independent voters in this poll say they will go up under harris, 36 trump. That is a big issue if you are harris just 70 of that same poll say you go down to harris 41 , say for trump shes got to reverse that. I mean, for all of the issues, two things. One, that is why republicans want to make this an issue, debate about pauls. Trump keeps going there its not as hard time doing that, but also the Harris Campaign needs to reverse that so that paul is probably the most alarming pool if im the Harris Campaign to see Grocery Prices, they believe they would go up because the pete things people care about the voters on the ground if youre talking to them, are the price of groceries, posts of gas, the price of housing . And if voters that you care middle, 50 think that Grocery Prices will go up. That means that voters who already feel, because we know that a majority of voters feel like theres a tightening on their pocketbook. Think its going to get worse under harris and thats likely going to impact them when they go to the polls. So if i was harris, id be very concerned about that. But just to go back its one of the things that daniel is saying overall. The best strategy for Donald Trumps team they believe is to try and make harrison incumbent candidate. So far its proven very hard. She has had this bounce over the last several weeks that they have had a hard time infiltrating, but their goal is by the end of this, to make it the bidenHarris Administration to make kerr the incumbent, and that all of these policies be linked to her, whether or not they can do it. Its a short amount of time and shes a different candidate. Yeah. No question about it. So what did the heart of their economic plans . Stuck gauff the Harris Plan Versus A Trump tag plan on taxes. So viewers have a sense of it. She wants to extend the trump tax cuts for households under 400,000. Hes also talked about raising rates among the wealthiest tags, households to 44 44. 6 . And then theres a difference here on the higher Corporate Tax harris wants unlike trump, who is looking for another tax cut, he wants also extend trump does all the tax cuts, including for the wealthy, is tax wealth is households. They do agree on no taxes on tips, of course that was trump came out first and nevada is a big state and erez has now endorsing that as well. So obvious, but still, there are significant differences on these two candidates, economic policies, and theres another difference which is that harris believes in the independence of the federal reserve. Trump has said that he wants to have influence over how Interest Rate decisions are made by the facts and its pretty wonky, but it can actually, thats one area where you could actually affect the economy and what is good for the president may not be good for consumers more broadly are prices yeah, i think the thing you see with harris is that she wants to continue bringing in all the same amount similar amount of tax revenue, but from different sources. Rightso shes trying to shift more of the tax burden to corporations. And the most wealthy and in order to pay for some of her policies, and so thats i think The Big Picture thing that were seeing from her. Trump has thrown had a lot of things he wants to extend those tax cuts. He is also very interested in Greater Tariffs On Goods and thats i think the other big lead, other big lever that hes been talking about that there is a big competition right now to not get too wonky into tel, have an economic pitch that voters really will respond to i mean, bill clinton was very good at this. And the Harris Campaign has been pretty cautious so far in all of its Policy Positions on the economy but, you know, its that carville saying its the economy stupid. And whichever campaign in these next 70 days, makes that pitch effectively is probably in a gain in the polls i mean, its always the case they economy number one issue that will probably be again come november. All right. 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Im jim sciutto in the Golan Heights and this is cnn that will trump demands loyalty. He always has. And if he wins in november, hell likely stock the federal government with as many loyalists as possible, like kash patel, who alayna Plot Collobert describes in a new piece for the atlantic as quote, the man who will do anything for trump halyna. She joins me now here along with kristen holmes. Thank you for being here this afternoon. Thank you for having great to see you. So this is what you write in your piece for the atlantic. You write even in an administration full of loyalties, loyalists, patel was exceptional in his devotion. This is what seemed to disturb many of his colleagues. The most that was dangerous, several of them told me now, because of a certain plan, he would be poised to carry out if given control, the cia or fbi. But because he appeared to have no plan at all, his priorities today, always subject to mercurial president s wishes tomorrow. Was your takeaway. One thing that i learned as i spoke with former Trump Administration officials about the fact that in about a year and eight months, kash patel had skyrocketed from National Security council staffer to suddenly you have trump pushing for him to be the deputy fbi director, which Attorney General bill barr said Over My Dead Body next step, he wanted him his deputy cia director, and direct the director at the time of the cia, gina haspel threatened to resign over this and as i was talking to these forms former officials saying what was it that you were so scared he was going to do and all of them to a tee said its it wasnt about a specific plan necessarily. It was that whatever trumps whims were that day his ideology in some ways was just centered around carrying them out and so as one person put it to me, it was like, who knows what he told trump, he would do, which i found an interesting contrast with someone like stephen miller, who despite being a somewhat of a trump loyalist himself, does have a very specifically defined ideology when it comes to immigration, you understand the contours of the agenda he wants to advance with kash patel anything could change depending on what trump wants that day or the next chunk, what trump wants one day to the next . Ill take that is interesting piece of reporting that you learned. Just hes been kash patel has been actually a frequent guest and steve bannon, of course, that trump loyalist himself, ban in his podcast talking about their political enemies cash. I know youre probably going to be head of the cia but do you believe that you can deliver the goods on this in a pretty short in a pretty short order. The first couple of months, so we can get rolling on prosecutions prince yes. We got the bench for abandoned. We will go out and find the conspirators, not just in government, but in the media. Yes, were going to come after the people in the media who lied about american citizens who helped joe biden rig president ial elections. We are going to come after you, whether its criminally or civilly, well figure that out. But yeah, were putting you all on notice. I mean. Youve talked to the Trump Campaign all the time. Do you expect him to get what role i guess do you expect them to get in a trumping missiles over yet been confirmed by the senate, maybe a whole lot what their all the roles that can put them in. So first of all, the trump team was livid about that interview. In particular, they have some of them tried to distance kash patel from the former president because they are trying to keep or at least for some time tried to keep President Trump or former President Trump isolated from some of these people who they were worried about what influence, what he would say out loud, and they were very angry with those comments, in particular, because they obviously got a lot of attention and in a negative way. Now, patel would argue that thats not exactly what he was saying. If you read the constitution that he was saying people who lied specifically in the media, not but it doesnt help the cause of the Trump Campaign, which specifically at that time when he made those comments were back in december, was trying to present as a much more organized and efficient operation than what we had seen before. Now in terms of what he might get in a second administration, that is all going to depend on the next several months. And who is actually plea running the Transition Daily Reporting Rfk and Tulsi Gabbard are being joined to that. Will they have a role in actually who gets personnel jobs its very up in the air right now. Whos going to be in that role of putting people . Meantime, hes been a bit of a cult figure on the right is raising money, selling merchandise on trial for january 6, defendants as well . Yes. And i want to add to the great point that kristen just made, whats so interesting to me about Cash Photolysis in this sort of unique position where despite the fact that a lot of people around trump in some ways kind of Detest Kash Patel and do wish that he would have distance from the president , former President Trump himself really likes him and he does have that direct line to donald trump such great reporting. Thank you, guys. Thank you for joining me. Thanks for sharing that reporting and thank you for joining Inside Politics, Cnn News Central starts after a quick break the pros for. 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