my team, the florida panthers, not good for that guy. he's a good dad. that was pretty amazing, right wasn't a good dad. jake tapper, the lead with jake tapper? or it's right now we're just two days away from the biggest night of the 2024 campaign, the league starts right now we're covering thursday's debate from all angles. >> the three topics the trump campaign wants to focus on and how team biden could respond also, wikileaks founder set to plead guilty after leaking thousands of classified documents. julian sanchez standoff with the the us is coming to an end. i'll talk to his brother plus dramatic scenes out of kenya. protesters storming parliament building and then setting it on fire. outrage against a finance welcome to lead. >> i'm thematically in for jake tapper we start today with our 2024 leave because of course we're just two days away from the very first presidential debate of this election cycle. thursday night, right here on cnn, president joe biden and former president donald trump will take the stage and trying to sell voters on their visions for the next four years. sources say president biden and his advisers have started mock debates at camp david while the trump team is narrowing in on a few specific topics, they want to bring up during the debate. we start things off. cnn's kayla tausche at the white house and cnn's kristen holmes down in west palm beach, florida near trump's mar-a-lago home. kayla, let's start with you. walk us through these mock debates house everything unfolding for a very, very leak-proof operation at this point yes at least that is the goal fill the bind team has now been hunkered down at the rural mountainside retreat for nearly five days, going through the motions of going through material surreal culminating in those mock debates that i'm told began yesterday where the team felt like they had enough of a sense of how to run those practice debates of what i'm i told we're varying lengths to practice what they think will come up in the debate and what they want. president biden to be both reacting to and pro who actively bringing up on his own, i'm told that at camp david, the team is undergoing long working days as the preparation is geared toward both of this substance on stage as well. well as the stamina required for a pretty busy stretch with the 9:00 p.m. debate going late into the evening, followed by at traveled to north carolina and a rally taking place. the next day. they'd been talking about a number of things that could come up. notably, what the biden campaign expects to be a focus for the president and two, on abortion, democracy, and what they see as the danger of the trump economy. the campaign released an ad to that effect earlier, this morning. that's going to be running in battleground states as part of $50 in ad spend in the month of june where they say that donald trump is in it for himself and joe biden is. in it for voters, for their families. now that message has been crafted in recent weeks and it comes after weeks of top democrats telling the campaign that they're needed to be shifted messaging that biden touting his accomplishments on the economy just simply wasn't moving voters that he needed to take a tougher line of attack, fill kristen over you. >> obviously, the biden okay, i'm paying very structured and some level normal in terms of a tape of eight process that's not how trump operates, nor his team. once you've been doing over the course of that last two days, i guess was i just got off the phone with the number of trump's senior advisers. they held a call with a border has kind of just walking through the debate. a lot of it was levels settings saying that joe biden has shown up and performed before, but they also talked about what they want to focus on are what they hope that donald trump will be focusing on talking about the economy, specifically, inflation, talking about crime rates talking about immigration. in particular, they say that he will be comparing and contrasting his administration to that of president joe biden. now when you talk about those issues, the economy let me particularly inflation immigration, crime. these are all issues that donald trump polls ahead of biden on. and that is part of the reason why his team wants him to focus on this. they know that biden is going to bring up things like abortion. democracy is going to bring up what happened on january 6, or at least they are preparing for that. but what they are hoping and talk seem to trump about doing is pivoting to the things that the voters have shown through these various polls that they care about, but they believe that donald trump is quote, unquote better at now one thing i want to point out here is pretty interesting. donald trump is not usually a candid person. he often says, things are easy. he doesn't have to do any work, but he did give an interview with the washington examiner in which he talked about debate prep and one of the lines he said, again, particularly candid when it comes to donald trump. he said it's very hard to prepare for debates, adding debating is an attitude more than anything else. but if you talk to donald trump's team is visor, they don't want much of the attitude. they don't want much of the attacks on biden. they are hoping that he can and stick to the actual messaging. again immigration crime, the economy particularly inflation, when he gets up there on that stage, fill all right. >> tausche, kristen holmes. thanks. so much. well, a federal judge just rolled back. parts or former president trump's gag order. that's ahead of his sentencing in the new york hush money case. cnn's paula reid joins me now. what does this actually mean for the former president will fill? >> it means the former president can now speak freely about stormy daniels, michael cohen, and anyone else who testified in his new york criminal trial. he is also now a free to speak about the jury. this was a little surprising and even the judge said he was quote reluctant to lift this portion of the gag order because he said that there were still ample evidence to justify continued concern for jurors, but no one who served on that jury has come out publicly and trump is still prohibited from identifying any of them. in a public arena. now, large parts of the gag orders are still in place because prosecutors, for example, they're still working on his sentencing, which is currently scheduled for july 11. so he's still cannot talk about prosecutors, court staff, or their family. they might be wondering why is the judge doing this now? well, the judge said et quote, circumstances have changed. he said that he crafted this gag order narrowly around the time of the trial to protect against certain extra judicial statements that trump would make. but of course, this move comes just two days before the cnn debate were trump's conviction will likely come up now the trump team tells me they are still unsatisfied with this and call what's left of the gag order, quote un-american. and they avowed two once again challenge this gag order in court. fill timing is everything. paula reid, thanks so much. my panel joins me now to discuss first trump saying that debating is an ads. it's like it's a vibe, right? like essentially like debating is a vibe. you should, that's what you were talking to biden about back in service and actually prep was just all vibes does this all it's just all it's all about five hours per day of box. >> we know donald trump and his team are going to attack biden on immigration. >> here's what trump said about it during his most recent rally. >> you know, we had the safest border and the history of our country. now we have the unsafe is border in the history of the world i've been how stupid is an open border. >> but equally and to be honest with you have much more importantly, open borders because you have millions of people coming in. they're coming from all of these places deserve causing tremendous death the kate for all of the unpredictability of people attributes to donald trump, you know, this is coming from the biden team. >> what are you telling the president if you're in that room? >> go right back at him say, we had solutions on the table you through them aside, you said you'd rather have this as a political issue. i think there is a lot of purchase for biden in that argument. i don't think he should be feel like he needs to be back on his heels on this. i think he can certainly and should talk about what he's done, those steps that he's taken over the last few months in particular, he can talk about the fact that on day one, the oval office, he puts fourth a comprehensive plans, sent it to congress that he is consistently worked on this issue. but i think the big weakness for trump on this issue is the fact that he scuttled a deal that he essentially said, i want this as a political issue. people don't like that. the other thing i would say about this i think is maybe a little counter-intuitive people like the tougher measures, no question, but they don't like a lot of trump's rhetoric around this issue when he says that immigrants poison the blood of our country and they didn't like family separation. so there can also be some benefit, i think for biden and getting trump going on this issue because trump has a tendency to say things that really turn off those moderate voters who are going to be decisive in this election, madhok you back woman, how are you it's your, the trump team framing this issue. >> they're up on double-digit points on this. if you pull absolutely think it's one of the best issues have not be best issue. >> but do they need to be careful about how they approach it? i think in some respects, but look, the overton window has shifted on this issue just in the last five years. i mean, always been doing this for a long time. always we'd always talked about when it came to immigration, there was border security but there's also some sort of legal status, citizenship conversation that has been pushed aside because it's issue is so potent on the border security part. and i think one thing also speaks to the potency of the issue is the biden team felt the need to not only rely on that attack about scuttling the deal, they felt they needed to do something on the decorative or do you feel that need to go further if that wasn't the case, i thought they're winning on that issue. they would need to go on the executive order. and so i feel like again, bring it back to immigration much as possible. crime, safety, immigration, those are his no pun intended safe grounds. he can pivot back to you. >> i think gorman just call me old it's fair covered immigration as closely and more deeply than probably most people in this town over the course last several years to matt's point, the overton window has shifted the debate is in a different place than it has ever been before kind of what ask, hey, how does the biden team counter that is the legislative issues a way to actually connect because it's a debate. it's a challenge and share right? i mean, i do think that the pendulum has completely swung to the right here on the politics of immigration in the past few years years ago, we might be talking about one the democratic nominee, talking about the need for legalization in exchange for border security while there public and nominee emphasizes the need for border security. now you're going to have two people almost trying to flex their border security bona fides on stage i do know that the biden administration is crafting a strategy here where they point at both executive actions taken recently that providing relief to undocumented spouses and the united states flipping that to say we united families, you separated families as well as the previous executive action that limited asylum at the southwest border. they'll also highlight numbers and say, look, i mean may 2019, the trump administration also struggled with a record number of monthly border crossing. now those encounters have more than doubled under the biden administration. i think the central question here is, can a sort of sophisticated argument around, we worked with you in congress? you opposed it, then former president trump said to tank a bill that would have invested in board security. can that match up against spotlighting a crime committed by individuals out of those millions, we can stoking division, square up against sort of a, a bit more of a complicated argument get around the policies you attempted to implement. yeah. there's sort of a compassionate conservatism in some ways that i think biden is attempting with the executive orders in this more comprehensive bill, it certainly has shifted to the right. >> it's not even trump. i think that has made it shift to the right. i think it was greg abbott sending my roots to these different aisle blue states. so now folks who are in blue states or are now experiencing a lot of these issues. and it's not even crime, it's like overcrowding in some of these areas and just the sight of people who are unhoused has made this an issue. i think that's front and center for a lot of folks. what i do think the sort of nuances there's nuance work against trump's hammer. right? >> and i think but the key for biden is to make the hammer seen terrible in inhumane, right? one of the policies he wants is to deport all these folks, right? what is the impact on the economy of that? something vicious and terrible that he said was this idea of a fight club of migraines, which is a terrible ideas. i think that's going to be a trick i think for the biden team to try to inject into this conversation running out of time. but i want you both to have a quick answer to this. >> it's that point is nuanced possible in this moment, you've both been in the room with these candidate, with candidates before these big moments trying to explain closure is probably not i'm going to work. not gonna do it right? >> well, no one's well, no i got i hope no one's arguing that. no. it trying to flint closure would be losing strategy. i disagree a little bit that saying the republicans and donald trump wouldn't come to the table and play ball is complicated. i think people fundamentally get that however a complicated argument, broadly speaking, no does it land well innovate? it does not. what people respond two and debates is emotion a sense of authenticity, a sense of control? and so in that i can't believe i'm going to say this, but in that sense, i sort of agree with donald trump abating is a lot about attitude. you also have to have the facts. you have to have an argument. you have to know what you want to say. gdn humanizing issue humanizes families easier than nuancing something, but they can go to the same effect no matter what part of your talking about matt gorman is a permanent five. thank you. >> appreciate and coming up. now that julian 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wikileaks first published us secrets in 2010. initially about the war in iraq, including this video of a us apache gunship killing iraqi civilians. and to journalists his next release, thousands of secret documents about the afghan war then a massive data dump of sensitive global u.s. diplomatic communications tens of thousands of secrets in the wind, lives of spies, potentially compromised wikileaks. i love wikileaks perhaps most consequentially, while on the lam in london in 2016, publishing leaked emails from the democratic national committee and hillary clinton's campaign manager during her presidential election campaign against donald trump. for 14 years, assange was a fugitive first fleeing sweden following a 2010 arrest warrant, link to rape allegations, which he denied landing in the uk, sun facing extradition back to sweden. eventually jumping uk bail in 2012 taking asylum in the ecuadorian embassy in london ultimately wearing out his welcome expelled seven years later, promptly arrested, taken to the uk's maximum security belmarsh prison facing and fighting extradition to the united states now here, not in a north american courtroom, but in the us district of the north mariana islands, a territory of the united states in the pacific ocean on route to his native australia, his last hurdle. he must plead guilty to one count of obtaining and disseminating classified hi us information linked to us national defense. and then he'll go free for time already served. 62 months in a tiny uk jail cell his wife, who is also as lawyer and mother of his two children who was outside is uk gel just a few days ago. now, waiting for him in australia, that will be the first time that i get to see him as a fully free man all this is, it's so alien to the way we've it's been until now for the past 14 years, his freedom, it seems simple, in part, due to diplomacy regardless of the views that people have about mr. assange's activities, the case has dragged on for too long. >> there is nothing to be gained by his continued incarceration. and we want him brought home to australia in recent weeks, australia's prime minister increasingly advocating for a sanchez return, the white house denying it had any involvement in the plea agreement ironically assange's get out of jail deal. a better kept secret than his historic leaks he was on the plane heading towards home hours before the news broke nic robertson, cnn london are thanks. >> didn't nic robertson for that report now i want to bring in julian assange has half-brother, gabriel. she didn't we we appreciate your time as i told you, turn the break. >> this is obviously i think it's a real very emotional time for you and your family. can you give us a sense of behind the scenes, the pieces that had to come together for this to actually reach an outcome. i know there are a lot of moving parts that we probably didn't even know about this is the culmination of a years-long campaign fill. >> it was a grassroots campaign that led into a political campaign and particularly the australian government, these trending government were key into negotiating this deal, into putting in place what needed to happen for julian to get out of the prison and to this island where he's on his way to at the moment to put this play before u.s. judge he has to fly to a us district which is the mariana islands, which is the closest district to australia but it really is the combination of a years-long campaign the political will of the australian people led to this diplomatic solution. but it's trailing government and us doj i think the efforts in congress as well had a significant impact. the julian has a growing constituency in congress. both democratic and republican side, who have been calling on the biden administration to bring this bring this case to a close. so it's hard to really pinpoint on the exact single thing that led to this. but i think there's so many people who have attributed to this campaign and they should all give pig, giving themselves a big pat on the back today it's momentous de for julian assange. >> you make an important point that the political winds inside the us domestically have shifted certainly over the course of the last decade until that point, it's been over a decade since julian was a free man. >> has he ever expressed, given what he's been through over that period of time, that he should have done something differently, that there was enough other way or another course of action that he should have taken through this process he hasn't ever express that to me. feel i think the work that wikileaks and the work that julian did it's historical. now, we can see that some of the cables that wikileaks late to actually lead to the end of the iraq war the video, the collateral murder video that exposed reuters journalists being killed by helicopter gunship in baghdad i think those are historical moments historical publications that went all around the world torturing guantanamo bay as well as corruption in the banking system. toxic waste dumping this is a legacy of wikileaks and julian assange i think it's part of history now, so looking back and having regrets i'm not inclined to do that myself. so i don't think julian is either i think you make an important point about just the sheer scale of what was uncovered and reported on over the course of time because of wikileaks to that point. >> and i know there are more immediate concerns, but in terms of next steps, have you talked about maybe going back to a wikileaks type of activity with him as you expressed any desire to go back to what he was doing prior to all of us know, he hasn't expressed i haven't spoken to him about that. it'll feel any any any sort of desire he's been been talking to him in the lead up to this. and he's just excited to be a free man again, it's been 13 years. he's been detained one way or another. he has two small children or five and 7-year-old son's gabriel and max so he's just excited and looking forward to spending time with his family doing some normal things things that he hasn't been able to do for many, many years. like here, the australian bird life, seeing or have a swim in the ocean, have a meal with his family i think that's what he's most looking forward to. his health has been in decline while he's been inside the maximum security prison for the last five years so he really needs to some time to actually recuperate as well. and the doctors i've spoken to have gone and seeing him says that he can he can get better, that he can recover from this i think julian's really looking forward to that quiet time for some rest. and recuperation. three gets back to australia certainly an understandable near term focus or wife, two children now, gabriel shift and we appreciate your time. >> thanks so much. >> thanks for having me from coming up the chaos at kenya's parliament as protests over a tax hike turned deadly, stay with us thursday night my 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and vice verse and let me further clarify that. and some of the challenges that exist. >> so what one of the main crossings now since that if our conversion to the southern part and the middle part of gaza is through kerem shalom, otherwise also known as abu satnam. and the challenge there is that there's only one road that israel is allowing these humanitarian trucks to be able to use commercial trucks well that one road now is literally like running the gauntlet because of the amount of looting and criminal activity that happens on it, which means that it is incredibly dangerous for these trucks to move there because they're not only facing the potential danger of the bombings and getting caught in crossfire, but now right now all of these gangs that are there, then you have what's able to get into gaza from the north and that is unable to move to the south. >> let me further clarify. >> what comes into the south right now at this point in time is a lot of commercial items. so there's plenty of fresh fruits and veggies extra bowls and chocolate milk that you can buy on the market, assuming that you're able to afford the astronomical prices, but you don't have things like hygiene kits. you don't have the food parcels at this stage in the north though? you have a ton of flour, there's a lot of flour coming in, bread prices are less than what they were before, but there is nothing else. their people are literally sustaining themselves on bread. and you have this growing desperate situation where eight is harder to move around. people people are growing even more desperate. and, you know, it's really only in being here and seeing that the scale of the devastation i was just up north in gaza city and in the jabalya refugee camp a few hours ago, where you really realize that. >> i mean, your left speechless. >> right? like i'm actually right now at a loss for words when it comes to what people are having to cope with and the level of the destruction and how they are quite literally living in the rubble of their homes in some cases on top of piles of rubble where they still believe that bodies are potentially buried underneath it what you're describing right now, i want to make very clear and i think everybody probably knows who you are and your work while you were at cnn, but you have been in conflict after conflict? >> conflict. >> as a reporter, you have seen there is no way to be antiseptic about what you've seen over the course of your career why is this leaving you speechless? what's different about this? >> the. fact that there's no possible exit four civilians to reach safe space. just about every single other war zone has some sort of an exit to it, even if that path is dangerous there's always a way to get out generally speaking, when you survive bombing or when the frontline kind of moves through your neighborhood, you're able to move out and you have access to shelter, food, water, medical care, none of that exists. your people are being shepherded around this nightmare from one spot to another trying to keep each other safe. and then there's also the sheer level of psychological obliteration. the trauma that comes every single day that is constantly triggering and re-trigger in people, you know, i was talking to one of our colleagues also works in the sector he sees from gaza as a five-year-old son and he was saying that their biggest fear is the war that is going to come after the bombs because he was saying that right now to a certain degree the constant triggers, the threat, the fear of the constant scrapping a water. it a lot of people distracted because all of their emotional trauma has been buried underneath, but there's this very fear that that is going to come up and completely, and totally paralyzed them. there's also a very real fear due to this complete breakdown of social order. >> there's absolutely no rule of law here and we are seeing this increase in criminal nhl activity, increase in looting. there are various reports of an increase in gender based violence, which tragically happens in every single similar space. >> but people are terrified of what tomorrow is going to bring and not just because of the potential for violence, but because even if the bomb stop, there futures, so on, uncertain, it's also the first time that you really have aid organizations. >> this deeply entrenched in a war zone and completely and totally unable to move aid from or to the population that actually needs it's almost mind-boggling, not to mention one last point that also makes this very, very different medical evacuations of stop. there have been no medical evacuations since the border closing daemon important work you do, but also the important observations being able to share that in a place where it's very difficult to see exactly what's happening right now. >> we very much appreciate you. thanks so much. us surgeon general says gun violence is a public health crisis up next, one, trauma 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during the unthinkable how much do you think about it? i think about it. when my kids are in school, i think about it when we're at a sporting event, i think about it when we go to a mall, to an airport, it's just kind of one of those things it's on your mind. i wanted my kids and other kids that if they are in a situation where it may be an active shooter situation or mass shooter situation that they could help guy, which is why we find ourselves in this classroom with these adorable third graders. who are about to get a lesson in a way that i've never seen before they're going to learn how to stop the bleed. >> i want you to think about that. you guys have the knowledge and the power to save somebody's life by knowing this you could save somebody's life. how does that make you feel i love that word. >> amazing, you're right, makes you feel amazing. so that's what we're teaching you to do today's we're teaching you how to save somebody's life. okay, so after we call, he is now part of a grassroots movement among trauma specialists backed by the american college of surgeons and the american red cross to teach these skills to young children the likelihood of a child dying in a school shooting, maybe rare. >> but a child dying from a firearm is not in 2021. guns were the leading cause of death for young people under 18 in the united states. making up 19% of all children's deaths stop the bleed train was born in the aftermath of sandy hook when a panel of trauma specialists from around the country determined that turning bystanders into immediate responders could very well saved lives what is staggering though, is that for the past six years, kate has been teaching kids as young as kindergarten how to pack a wound and stopped bleeding. >> so if you see somebody who's hurt and there's a puddle of blood next to them that's one of the things you're going to look for. so everybody say puddle kindergartens just seems so young to think about putting pressure on a wound, trying to stop the bleeding. but they seem to to understand what you're saying. >> as long as we presented in a way to them that is non-threatening. it's not scary. they roll with the information very well. if i have a cut and the blood comes out like a sprinkler goes we take away that active shooter part and just say look at where teaching bleeding control in. what can happen in the home, or just when you're out on your day-to-day environment. i think if they got caught with one of those songs that that might cause them to get hurt pretty bad. yeah okay. is we're going to take what we have and we're going to back it inside for the younger students. >> she emphasizes packing the wound deeply. next thing we're gonna do is we're going to happen to hold preska being in mind that with injuries like gunshot wounds, the bleeding often happens deep, so superficial pressure alone can be enough strong enough to do this so i'm just going to have you guys put your knee on. >> it'll make a little bit easier for you. you won't get tired. >> good. >> okay so do you feel like you good now? >> you had to actually do that? >> yeah. i think i would be like ready to help anyone wow. >> well, what's the, what's the best part of that for you like the feeling when you get to see them go to the hospital and know that they're okay i like the feeling that you save someone's life. we're going go high and tight. >> so those that are older, like the sixth graders, including kate's own daughter. she also teaches it's them to use tourniquet us with this until the bleeding stops. >> none of this is easy empowering, yes. but sad that the training has become increasingly necessary the question about gun violence came up today in the sixth grade class. >> what goes through your mind when you know that topic has now been broached. >> what i tried to do is acknowledge it because it's real. >> but i'm very aware and cognizant of not spending my time on the gun violence part, but it also tugs at my heartstrings a little bit. >> for sure with the kids that that's even on their mind in a world where we already teach our kids to run, hide, and fight during active shooter drills. teaching elementary students how to control bleeding, maybe come as useful as stop, drop, and roll i was watching you today and it was emotional. i love for me even as a trauma surgeon to think that you're teaching kids to do things that i don't know. i just feel like sad that kids would have to learn that initially when i first started it it used to and i think i've really worked hard to take that emotion out of it. when i say that emotion is because i feel like when i would initially go into that with that kind of feeling playing i just found that i couldn't teach the information in a way that it really, it resonated with them. it was being taught out of fear for me and i don't want that. if we can teach it like teaching hands only cpr, how to use an aed like it just becomes part of what we do. it can be 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