continues the source some kaitlan collins starts. now see you tomorrow so from the source tonight, a plot twist would major new developments and not one but two of the biggest cases against donald trump the georgia conspiracy case now on ice indefinitely. >> and in florida, judge cannon's unusual decision about trump's push to get jack smith fired plus post-conviction payback as trump's most serious thought so far is sounding more like a promise to investigate his enemies and potentially have them thrown in the present. and also we're tracking significant new concerns tonight about a potential new front and israel's war with its enemies. an influential former prime minister serve israel, will join me here, live i'm kaitlin collins, and this is the source fresh off a fill hello, need conviction and awaiting sentencing that could include prison time potentially, donald trump score and some pretty big legal wins tonight. and his push to delay any other case from going to trial before election day in georgia and appeals court has just halted the conspiracy case against donald trump and his co-defendants indefinitely as it can so there's whether the district attorney, fani willis, should be removed from the case, which they are obviously trying to do. >> all of this stems from that romantic relationship that she had with the lead prosecutor that she put on this case, nathan wade is now gone from the case, but this trouble is still here for fani willis, at least the accusation is that she benefited from financially from his appointment by spending his salary on things like vacations together, an allegation that i should note, willis and a very dramatic courtroom moment flatly denied you're confused. >> you think i'm on trial these people are on trial for trying to steal an election in 2020. i'm not on trial. the only man who's ever foot my bills completely is my daddy's uv light in this limit. tell you which one you lied in right here. thank you. live right here no, no. >> this is the true judge in a luck. >> get that is one saga. meantime, as we are waiting on the supreme court to rule on presidential immunity, which they are expected to do later this month. the judge in the mar-a-lago classified documents case is now kicked the can so far down the road. it's hard to even see it at this point. there's just about zero chance that this trial sees the light of day before the election. judge aileen cannon has also now agreed to hold a hearing on trump's push to get jack smith removed from the case. of course, trump and his team are claiming that smith was illegally appointed as the special counsel who is overseeing that in the case in washington, dc but not only is this a further delay in florida as trump motions are stacking up like planes on a runway. motions that i should note, cannon, has yet to rule on. >> the most immediate issue. >> now becomes is judge cannon considering giving jack smith the boot well, what we have learned is that she at least wants to hear at the two sides out by top legal sources are here tonight joining me at the table, cnn senior legal analyst and former assistant us attorney for the southern district of new york, elie honig, criminal defense attorney and cnn legal analyst, joey jackson, and retired federal judge, shira scheindlin. great to have you all here, judge. i want to get your take on this in a moment, but elie, i mean, if we thought the georgia case was doomed from the start, this is essentially cementing that. >> it's over. let's be realistic. it's not happening before the 2024 election. it's not happening in 2024. it's maybe not happening at all. now, the appeals court, we can never predict where they're going to do, but there's some things we know for sure number one, they didn't have to take this case. the appeal, and they chose to. the other thing is they didn't have to pause the district court. in fact, the trial court judge, when he issued his ruling allowing donald trump and the others to ask the appeals court to take the case. the trial court judge specified, while you all are doing that, i'm going to continue holding proceedings in this trial court. and now today, just a couple of hours ago, the appeals court said, no, no, no pause. that too. so that tells me that they're taking this appeal very seriously. and if trump in the defendants prevail and just peel, this case is essentially that you're talking about, judge mcafee. he was still ruling on some pretrial motions going ahead with things. all of that is now frozen. and i mean, we're not even going to get the decision on the appeals court until next spring. >> yeah. we won't. >> but i think it's the right call and let me tell you why i'm a firm believer that you have to have confidence in our institutions and appeals are part of that process. i think there are many people who took issue with mcafee is decision, however well-reasoned to 23 pages war we're not i think there are people who felt that there was an actual conflict of interests, not just a perceived conflict, and maybe took issue with his remedy as well. what remy yet, the special counsel off the case and you're fine proceed. nathan wade, i'm speaking up. and so to the extent that there's an appeal, why not freeze the case? because if you move forward and the appeal is otherwise granted and the case is on done, what are we doing? and so my view because of the institutions and the respect for them and people have to have trust in them. let an appellate panel of three judges make the decision and what they decide will have to live and what they're designing judges whether or not judge mcafee here made the right decision are not disqualifying. fani willis, the district attorney. he said nathan wade could not be on the team anymore, but but he did not disqualify her do you think you made the right choice? >> i think he probably made the right choice the real question is are we surprised by the stay and i think we're not i think i agree with what you said, joy, that this required a stay and the truth is, i don't think this case was going before the election. anyway, it was never ready to go. there were still discovery issues, still pre-motion issues. it's a sprawling case with many defendants. i don't think it causes any difference, frankly, in timing, it wasn't going to go before the election in my opinion, what is it? >> the mean for the people who've already pleaded guilty? i mean, there are a number of them in this case. jenna ellis, everyone remembers her tearful moment on camera inside that courtroom minute and atlanta, georgia, what happens to them? how will and chesebro boy, if this thing gets dismissed and then they're standing there with their guilty pleas are going to try to take them back for sure. they're going to make a motion right away saying we wanna we wanna withdraw are guilty pleas and then that'll be up to the judge. i do want to flag another issue, though. that's going to be in front of the court of appeals. there's the disqualification, the affair, the intermingling of finances. i'm actually i agree with john schindler. i'm not so moved by that. i don't think the proof was clear enough. there is a separate issue that trump and the other defendants are going to raise it but i think is a bigger deal, which is fani willis is inappropriate comments about the case outside of court. judge mcafee found those comments to be, quote, legally improper, and then he did nothing about it and so the defense is going to argue to the court of appeals, if the prosecutor makes, quote, legally improper statements that impair the constitutional rights of the defendant. there it's to be a remedy for that. >> but here's my only issue. i think that you can make well, you shouldn't of course, as a prosecutor, be making comments extra-judicial outside the court that are inappropriate and that impair anyone's right. the issue was what's the remedy and should the appropriate remedy be the dismissal of the indictment? i think that's a bridge too far. so you could say perhaps at the church, you remember she gave the speech and somewhat inflammatory. some would argue with respect to the comments about that she made at that time, but i just think not dismissing the indictment was the right call. yeah. that's even remedy that they're talking about is taking her out of the case. right we've removed then if the case even move forward. >> but exactly what your take on what's happening in florida. because judge aileen cannon has basically ripped up the entire court scheduled. she's she's pushed some hearings now. >> they don't even have a date. >> some of these were things that were filed almost a year ago this week and still no decision has been made is a judge. what what's your take of how she's conducting this? >> she's not conducting it. well, she's not organized. she's not efficient. she's not getting the work done but once again, this seems clear to me that this case was never going to go to trial before this election. now whether that's an intentional effort on her part or because there are issues that are some what complicated like what you do with these highly confidential documents. so it takes some time, but that said she's about the slowest judge. i've seen dearie competence in her as she's handling this guy for you? i look at her as a rookie judge who wasn't really up to this case. >> and is not rising well to the occasion. >> what options does jack smith, the special counsel how once you just agreed to hear have a hearing on whether or not he should even is allowed to be the special counsel. but what options does he have if can they get a new judge or his i don't even know if that's the nuclear option. i don't think it's likely that he even asked for that. it's incredible we rare that prosecutors go to an appeals court and say you need to remove the judge. i know that's a popular theory that's out there. love jack smith knows what he's doing. he's 910 months into this case. he's not done that. he can appeal certain of her individual rulings. but i also i agree with judge chin. let i mean, there is an art it's not as easy as it looks to run your courtroom i mean, some judges do struggle to stay on top of their case this is now you would think this case would be the top priority? i would for for this judge, given all the circumstances and i've seen you run your courtroom, your honor, quite efficiently and this judges it's hard to even keep track of what's where right now. >> okay. but say that you agree with trump's allies that jack smith shouldn't be the special case counsel, that there are questions because he wasn't in any kind of confirm position before about why he's there. but in the arguments on that, she agreed to allow third parties who have nothing to do with this case come in and make the arguments about it. >> typical. >> that's a little troubling, right? you hear that in terms? appellate courts where you have an amicus briefs that are briefs friends of the court briefs where other people weigh in. these are parties before the court and the argument should be limited to those parties like who like the prosecutor and the defense. and i thank again, because of my confidence in institution arguments, you want to make the argument that the special counsel is unconstitutional. make the argument, but don't allow everybody come in. what do you say? what do you say? everybody else say? i think they'll make it and some of the arguments you know, maybe they'll carry muster should they have been a special offers created, should it have gone through congress, should there have been senate confirmation, right? those are things that perhaps we should here. i don't know that they carry the de. i think merrick garland certainly has the authority to appoint a special case counsel, but that's my view. harb you may be different and he said this week he has no regrets about appointing him as the special counsel. >> would you allow third parties to come in? >> absolutely not. these third parties have filed an amicus brief on this issue in the us supreme court. i read the brief today. >> so they've already written this out. >> they know their arguments. and if that issue takes off, it's going to get to the supreme court. they raised it in the immunity argument when they asked for a stay and they said this is so serious, it's a ground for granting the stay and it stayed, judge chutkan's case so isn't nothing surprising that this argument coming up, but why she's hearing from them. she can read the same brief i read. there's no reason to let them argue it in front of her jumped journeys have a lot of time on their hands, apparently, judge elie honig, joey jackson great to have you all here tonight to break all that down. >> up next, what trump's now saying in private about possibly going to prison because of course, remember, there is that sentencing hearing and just a few weeks, as he is also 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>> it's not inevitable. we can still prevent the war. it's up to the other side because bella has to stop its mischief look players in the region of been seen, israel taking a lot of hits all around for the past few months sometimes not responding very strongly and they might misinterpret this as weakness and that it's okay to hit israel. so i want to be very clear we will hit back. >> there will be a decisive blow, one that they cannot recover from if they continue down this route, do you think it would be decisive i mean, hezbollah is not the same as it was and 2006 to 2008. i mean, they have quite an arsenal to them what would that look like if israel is fighting wars on two different borders? >> because we could handle towards, again, we don't want it. i've spent decades fighting hizballah in lebanon nasrallah after the second lebanon war, he publicly stated that hadn't known what our reaction would have been, he would not have started the war. >> he said that he should be smart enough to not make that mistake. >> again, can i ask about something, president biden said in recent days, two different comments that seem to contradict one another. first, she told time magazine that in the quote was, there is every reason for people to draw that conclusion when he was asked if prime minister netanyahu is prolonging this war in gaza for his own political gain. >> but then when he was asked yesterday at the white house by a reporter if he thought netanyahu was playing politics with the war, he said he did not think so. what do you think is netanyahu extending this war to protect himself politically i hope not. >> i very much hope not. >> i don't think so. i will say that the war is being conducted very slowly half-hearted. >> this is not how you conduct a war. if you want to win a war, you have to continuously hit the enemy and not turn it on and off like a light switch, which is what's happening right now. and that's why i think both the american administration and israel should encourage a rapid wrapping up of this war by going and getting hamas leadership. we're getting close. we've sealed the border with egypt, so there's no more smuggling of arms. we can win this, but we need to get the job done. >> you said you hope he's not. but do you think he is? >> i don't know what goes in a mind of someone. i do not believe that prime minister of the jewish state would play political games. >> you don't think netanyahu would play political games on something of life and death of this magnitude it would hope now, he's agreed to come and address the us congress. there's some back-and-forth on when that date is actually going to happen. but i was reading today in an israeli publication that there are some families that are upset that he would come to the united states and address the us congress. while not addressing his own people at home and going and visiting with those who were attacked that de and witness this. do you think it would be inappropriate for him to come visit the us congress and leave israel to do that i think what matters our actions, actions on the ground. >> okay if we're vacillating for months and months and unclear whether we're fighting a war, stopping a war, or what going on speeches matter less, what matters is what we do in gaza, not what we say in washington. i'm here to fight the media war. there's enough people that can do it. we need to win the war, get it done with. >> so you think he should be more focused on what's happening on the ground in gaza than addressing us lawmakers i think it won't harm to speak the lawmakers, but that's not what's going to change the reality on ground. what will change the reality on ground is uniting israel and executing the cell war and the decisive way, i have to ask you about what's happening with this us military built pier in gaza there was a lot of frustration and concerns about people in gaza not being able to get food and basic necessities of concerns about famine. the us military was going to construct this pier for to the tunes of hundreds of millions of us taxpayer dollars with us soldiers constructing this. it's essentially not gotten very much aid in. there was a storm that they kind of made the pier deteriorate to where it couldn't be used for several periods of time why why is it having to get to the point where they're building appear that barely works to get aid to people that's not getting to them in a wholesome way when there's all these border crossings, all this land crossings that israel could open and let aid get into gaza that way, all those openings that you mentioned are open right now, what one they are open right now, the amount of food that's entering gaza over 400,000 tons, that's 3,000 calories a day per gazan. you gain weight if you eat that amount of food. >> but there is a problem, isn't are all getting or not getting 30,000 calories? well, we'll hamas is siphoning lots of that food. and that's the problem. the problem isn't the entrance into gaza the problem is that hamas is stealing the foot of its own people and then selling it in black market. and some people can afford that. but that's the problem that appear to i mean, i mean, yeah, they are still existing color, still starbuck well, i think it's much less than what you suggest. >> i don't think there's mass starvation. >> there are thousands of people starving. i mean, there's 1 million over 1 million. i know but and that's why you need to defeat those were starving them, which is hamas, that it's must serve in the process. >> i think that would be the kind of counter arguments. >> so what should we do? that's my hamas. all right. so we need to defeat these thugs. the mafia that's killing not only israelis, but its own people and starving its own people because they've developed this new methodology of war, where they do everything to increase deaths of gazans starve gazans so you'll be asked me these very questions and the focus than the pressure needs to be on hamas, not on israel. the other ones stealing food. there's unlimited amount of food entering gaza. we're not putting any brakes on that. that's not the problem. >> and of course everyone understands that hamas is using civilians. they don't make themselves available for interviews to ask them the question is obviously that's why that's why we need to defeat them onto ability because that has been immense amount of pressure from the us, from other us allies who are worried about what's happening to the palestinians and the fact that they're not getting enough food. and health care. >> that's why america should help us defeat hamas. because they're the ones stopping all of this this whole problem will go away well to their defeated prime minister. it's great to have you here are great to have you on set. we spoke right after the attack happened. it's remarkable where we are this far in, but thank you for being here for taking our questions. thank you. >> great to have you still ahead. there are darker details that are coming to light at that trial of 100 biden. that's underway today. his ex-wife and former girlfriend, both taking the witness stand will tell you what they said next this election season, stay with cnn with more reporters on the ground. >> and the best political team in the business follow the voters, follow the results, follow the facts follow. cnn with so many choices on booking.com, there are so many tina phase i could be they hired body doubles to help me out splurge tina loves a hotel near rodeo drive trina welcome to unit walked a farm stay to ride this horse glenn close was millions of possibilities you can book whoever you want to be that's my line. >> booking.com booking dot at simply safe, we designed the number one rated home security system powered by 24/7 professional monitoring for half the cost of traditional home security. so you stay safe hey, for less than $1 a day, there's no safe like simply save what the biggest companies, the liver is an exceptional customer experience. what makes it possible is unmatched connectivity and biji solution from t-mobile for business, t-mobile connects 100,000 delta airlines employees powers tractors supplies, stores nationwide with reliable by cheap is this dramatic and partners with pga of america, i'm on game changing innovation this is how business goes further with t-mobile for business oh, my leaf filter. >> i just scheduled an appointment online and the inspection was a breeze. they explained everything leaf filters, technology protect your gutters for good now, my home is protected calling 33 leaf filter or visit lee filter.com have heart failure with unresolved symptoms. it may be time to see the bigger picture. heart failure and seemingly unrelated symptoms like carpal tunnel syndrome shortness of breath and irregular heartbeat could mean something more serious, called attr cme. are rare under-diagnosed disease that worsens over time. sound like you call your card cardiologist and ask about attr cme. >> how can you be sure you're getting the right deal? 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>> well, look, as we've as we've been talking about, it has a very emotional case and that may be why abbe lowell wanted to have defense one to have some people that had experienced with addiction because now they're seeing what it was really liked for these people. how crazy the life was and all of those things so i think the evidence is starting to mount that he did in fact have a drug problem around this time. the key question is going to be when you check off that box, whether or not your user, how far prior to that do you need to have used? it can't be that you have to have a crack pipe hanging out of your mouth as you're filling out the form or it can be that day. that's not that's a reasonable interpretation. but the day before most people would say you're still a user a week before. some people might differ, a month before. i don't know. that's what the what i think the defense is going to have to argue that people can interpret user differently and if that's the case, then you can't find him guilty because it's open to interpretation. >> what about how the jury heard from the clerk himself who said he watched hunter biden, who came in, said he wanted the gun, which would've been at dispute. and he also testified that he watched hunter biden fill out the form look, sometimes witnesses tried to offer too much to the prosecution. it seemed look, i wasn't there. i didn't see him testify but to be watching somebody with that level of detail and say yes, i specifically watched him fill out the form and i specifically watched him check that box i suppose it's the son of somebody who was the former vice president, became the president in 2018. he knew who hunter biden was probably no doubt. and paid extra attention to him, but i thought his testimony was a little bit like trying too hard. >> you're a skeptical of that. what the prosecution said, they may rest as soon as tomorrow. >> yeah one, what does that mean for them? do you think we're going to see a lot of witnesses from the defense? >> what does that look like? >> i think the defense wants to end this case as quickly as they can. i just want to point out one jury issue. is that the next alternative? is very dangerous for the defense. the next alternative because we already had alternate one seeded alternate two is a woman who said that she believes gun laws in the us should be more strict. and she cited school shootings and her view there was a greater need for mental health evaluations of gun owners that to me is a nightmare juror for the defense because they've already gone through juror number, the alternate juror number one. >> exactly. the next step. >> so if they lose another juror and this person ends up on the jury, i would be i would von the defense. i want to end this. i want to move on. maybe they truncate or even jettison their entire defense case. >> oh, well, whatsapp closely and see how they're watching it or not. mr. be all great to have you. we are tracking all this very closely, also something else we're tracking tonight, the vif stakes for donald trump, because clearly they are heating up the new reporting tonight on who has been told that they are under serious this consideration. we've got the names right after a quick break sometimes the best thing you can do, you can do with intelligence is share it with your adversary. he and his secret is trade itself. bullet to the back of the head secrets and spies and nuclear gain. sunday at ten on cnn, everybody wants super straight super white teeth. they want that hollywood white smile. news censored in clinical white rights, two sheets, whiter teeth and 24/7 sensitivity of production. i think it's a great product can i help a lot of patients did you know sling has your favorite news programs for just $40 a month my favorite news, but just $40 a month my favorite for just $40 he was for $40 a month sling lets you do that well done viv you've got the presence, the balloons, and the raptor cake how about something to put a smile on your face has been dental provides complete, affordable care with dentists and labs in one place, plus free exams and x-rays for new patients without insurance and 20% off treatment plans for everyone quality care at a price where it celebrating its one more way, aspen dental is in your corner greeting theban 30? 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i think background check. we've assembled our own vetting committee here on the source, former senior white house communications age mall simmons is here along with for trump campaign adviser jason osborne, and obviously for people who aren't jason familiar with how this process works. they asked for, you know, it's kinda like getting a security clearance where they want to know what have you said about this in the past? what have you said about this? provide us with these materials. what do you make of the fact that they're undertaking this process? >> well they have to i mean, quite frankly, because there's a number of pitfalls that could come across in the vetting in the vetting process that if discovered after the fact, cause a lot of problems both for the candidate himself and also the campaign and how they operate. so what in this process i think what trump is trying to do is make sure that first and foremost, it's not somebody that overshadows them and secondly, somebody that actually can help bolster from a professional standpoint if, if you're talking professional politics, how government is run? and that's where i think like mike pence came in and i was really helpful because he had that government experience in this field that you're talking about. i think there's one person in particular that i would be a great pick for trump. and that's doug burgum and the reason why is because doug burgum is from a respectability standpoint and trump's eyes, he's a business guy who sold his business and made a ton of money. so he's appear secondly, he's run a state. he's run a government and he's actually done some very good things and there's not a lot of negative things you can say about doug burgum and first and foremost, i think probably in a lot of people's eyes, i see it's not going to overshadow trump ever yeah. which obviously is something that mike pence actually navigated pretty well until january 6 happened and we saw what happened there. >> what do you make of the faces that you saw there? >> the names that are under consideration that are providing these bedding material fails to the campaign. >> i think they're all like hello mega, right? it just seems like there's a lot of maga going on in the list and what time is it 948. so i wanna make sure all the kids are embed listen bad ones, right? exactly. >> today, they had a vote on contraception in the house, birth control, right? marco rubio voted against it it's tim scott voted against it. >> 88% of americans believed that women ought to be able to have birth control that's more people than the people who believed the earth is round or that it revolves around the sun these people are willing to do anything to stand in the way of the rights of women in america. >> so the first thing i noticed my see this list, there are no women on it, maybe at least a finite is going to get us to create a secret package at some point, but there are no women on it and there's nobody who's willing to stand up on the number one issue that has been driving democratic voter turnout. over the last three years. >> and they claimed that they voted against it because it was a democratic messaging bill. it'd be that's what we heard from, from some of them. and we talked to ted cruz listen murkowski said, if it's a message to build the messages, women ought to be able to have birth control oh, yeah, obviously, and we do expect to see that coming up. >> but on this specifically, i mean, the mike pence to 0.0 obviously donald trump doesn't want mike pence. they have completely deteriorate and this relationship. >> but when you look at that and you have seen all of those people doing a lot of television going out there, showing up in court with donald trump. >> obviously, doug burgum was here the day that the verdict actually came down. and so you are seeing that they are taking these steps to be by his side, to be conferring with them as they know, he's getting ready to make this decision, but he plays people off of each other. remember chris christie who was playing chris christie, mike pence off each other until it was announced that pence was the pick and 2016 well, i guarantee you that at some point in this process so as either after he's before he's named to whoever has going to be his pick or before the election, he's going to say i have the right to change my mind i guarantee you that just because that's how donald trump operates, is like in a joking way, he's going to say well, who knows, maybe i pick somebody else after the fact now, the reality is at the convention, he has to pick who the nominee is. i mean, i've heard talk that he may not pick it at the convention, but he has to wait a convention. just what the o of his advisers have said should hope pick within heal it may very well be a long ball and we see how well i worked out for john mccain, right where he came out of the box with sarah palin, which nobody had ever thought about. no reporters identity vetting on them, including my friend here to my left, which is often the case but he pigs are appellant and it was a disaster because it is hard to go from playing high school football to the pros and never have having done any work along the way. >> but now for alabama players, jamal summons, jason osborne, great to have you both here. i have to pick a roll tide joke with your yard all right. >> also tonight, trump is now claiming again, then he can get russian president isn't it putin to free the detained american wall street journal reporter evan gershkovich. but only if he wins the election in november, we're going to have reaction from someone who helped to break several americans oh including brittney griner next the increase in wildfire there's is exponential onto the double uncontrollable with overwhelming consequences, the need to do something is urgent we have schreiber sunday at night on cnn shop etsy for thoughtful pieces made by real people to brynn little something extra to the ordinary. find items that add wow, two walls and make you fall in love of with your family room again when you want one of a kind pieces to refresh your home that's he has it yet introducing ned's plaque psoriasis. he thinks is flaky red patches are all people see. >> oh, tesla is the number one prescribed pill to treat blacks arise says o, tesla can help you get clear. don't use a tesla if you're allergic to it, serious allergic reactions can happen. oh, tesla may cause severe diarrhea, nausea, or vomiting some people taking the tesla had depression suicidal thoughts, or weight loss, upper respiratory tract infection, and headache may occur. >> live in the moment asked you your doctor about tesla hey, you've seen this, right? 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and it also is easy as as trump is making it seem like, well, i wish it was as easy as trump make it seems like and i look, i believe donald trump that he wants to bring americans. he did bring american as a president. >> why wait for the elections if you can do it for free? >> let's do it now. it actually probably will help him in the elections but president putin is sharing sentiment that i've learned from my experience in working on the release of trevor read and brittney griner and trying to get paul whelan, which we filled up to now, the russians believe in symmetry. they believe in reciprocity the deals that we have not always, we have to make deals, but when we do have to make deals, they've never good der, never fare but there's sometimes the only way to bring innocent americans home and you're working for a non-government organization. >> obviously, that would naturally cause tension. i would guess potentially with the actual government and their operations. how does that work with the biden administration? what's your experience been working with them in different channels to save goal. but maybe different methods. >> as you mentioned, we are not for profit organizations, so we work on behalf of families at their request at no cost to them. we raise our fans it's worth and it's true that there is friction by default between us and the government within the families and the government and that is mainly because this is not a simple issue. the government itself, when they're dealing with russia, let's say there's a whole slew of interests, complex interests between the two countries which makes the conversations even to try to insulate each of the prisoners very difficult. when we step in on behalf of the families, we have no authority when it comes to policy. we have not 31 comes to ukraine. we can talk about it, but we're able to insulate the issue and therefore, have a pathway or theory of return to get somebody home. and then we need to try and push our own government we're accepted as a non government official. oh, what does it like? you're sitting across from some of america's worst enemies. what is it like when you're actually in the room with the russians, with the north koreans, with others. >> so i find it very interesting in my job i do have a clear differentiation between sympathy and empathy. empathy for me is a must. it's a necessity i need to genuinely be able to step into their shoes to understand the way they understand the world and their role in it. so i can actually get tangible things from them. but sympathy is when you start a line, you aligning your objectives with theirs, or when you agree we with them. and i don't i don't legitimize them. it's not it's not that part, but i need to generally understand them in order to do this and that is really, really tough because even though i'm sitting there, if i were diplomat and i would hear all this criticism i would have to protest. i would have to step outside and storm away but but because i'm not i actually take it in. i actually get a first narrative of how they see the world and that helps me, that's so fascinating. i mean, the whole book has fascinating. everyone should read it. it's in the shadows. mickey bergman, i think we'll probably having

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