Also, a Programming Note because tomorrow here on the source, we will be joined by republican senator ted cruz his first interview here on the source, you wont want to miss it. Thank you so much for joining us tonight. Those in a news night with abby, phillip starts right now the headlines you might have missed about Donald Trumps second term plans lets tonight on new side good evening im abby phillip in new york tonight. The final countdown to Closing Arguments and trumps Hush Money Trial is on summations are set for next tuesday and then the judge will hand this case off to the jury. Those 12 men and women are charged with deciding whether the former president remains a free man. It is a heading decision, but no less consequential than the one that every Day Americans will face in november. Now virtually every word uttered in that courtroom, every movement by the judge, the jury, the defendant, scrutinized, dissected but outside of the courtroom, trump has given the country plenty of new evidence about what he plans to do if he captures the oval office so lets go headlined by headline lawfare trump plans to prosecutors predecessor joe biden for all of the many crimes to trump says biden is committed, but refuses to actually name saturday night massacres. Well, trump says shore. He told Time Magazine he would fire us attorneys who dont follow his orders to prosecute is opponents you consider hiring someone under federal investigation as Attorney General . Well, yes. Trump says that ken paxton is on his list of possible ags fire the fed chair, a close trump confidant says, from jail, mind you, you can bet on it spark or trade war that can take money from middleclass wallets. Thats under advisement to 1 billiondollar quid pro quo offered up to oil executives. Thats now under investigation by house democrats. A plan for sweeping immigration raids, deportations, internment camps, those are also being drawn up, monitoring and prosecuting women who have abortions its up to the states. Trump says contraceptive bands. Trump now says, never, but thats just hours after saying, well see do you support any restrictions on a persons right to contraception were looking at that and im going to have a policy on that very shortly. Things really do have a lot to do with the states withhold funds from congress. Trump says, he can do that. Deploy the National Guard to cities on a whim. Trump believes he has the power to do that too. But the same Election Deniers who tried to discard the constitution in charge of upholding the constitution. That is also part of trumps plan. The civil service, you can expect that to be gutted social media posts, Borrowing Language from nazi germany. Well, it happened during trumps first term, and its happening again now add it all up, and trump has given the American People are pretty clear picture of how he plans to govern joining me now, pollster franklins sara fischer, Senior Media Reporter at axios, jamal simmons, former Deputy Assistant to President Biden, and coleman hughes, author of the end of race politics frank you know, it used to be said that once youre in the general election phase, the candidates move to the middle. Donald trump seems to be doing quite the opposite. There was two minutes of a very impressive indictment. And im looking at this wondering, how can american support this guy. But the fact is half for the country whos made up their Minds Support Trump in the key swing states, six out of Seven Support Trump so clearly theres something that hes saying is connecting. Now the way that you presented here is really powerful and its an indictment. But to the public, they look at the border and they say chaos and they want someone to fix it they look at affordability and they say, i cant even buy my food, my fuel, my, my homes, my health care. They want someone to fix that. They look at. Can they see the chinas a threat . All the things that you point out, you did a fantastic job and some of it is in his own language except theres a lot of americans who want that to happen, want accountability, want responsibility, and they want some of the get really, really tough. Yeah. Okay. So i think that thats undoubtedly true plenty of americans, trumps supporters especially want to see all of those very things happen but this is also a trump who like last time, keeps flirting with the fringe. This whole thing about the nazi return of the reich are unified reich in this video is pretty outrageous and they keep making it sound like an accident. But how many accidents could there possibly be . I want to play what President Biden said about that as the Biden Campaign is now seizing on it you sound is official account. Wow, a unified reich. That schindlers language, thats not americas. He cares about holding on to power. I care about you all right. Vertical video for tiktok. Theres a mental work with i think what we know now is like half of americans are getting most of their News Scrolling on a, on a phone. And so the campaign is trying to communicate with those americans. The language and the culture that, that occurs donald trump is telling us what it is he wants to do. Hes telling us where his inclinations are. He certainly telling us not telling us what he wont do, right . Its not like hes saying, oh, id never do that. Thats not the reality of this is donald trump is willing to throw out all of the norms and cultural thing that we think we settled as long as it means that he gets to have power. And the american system. And thats ultimately what this is about. Because even when hes asked a question about contraception, its clear he didnt know what that guy was talking about. He didnt actually have a policy. Its just well get there. Oh, yeah. Well figure it out. At this point. You really think that donald trump doesnt know what he wants his policy to ultimately be on contraception or is he just telling the truth that its open for discussion that he would consider banning it if the states wanted to do. I think its open for discussion because there might be a group of people who are willing to vote for him who want to hear him Say Something and he doesnt quite know yet what they want him to say. So hes got to go back and figure out what the deal is. Like he did with the judges hes got to go back and figure out who he can cut the deal with and give them something and whether thatll help him get elected. Yeah. Look, i think donald trump is bad enough that we ought not exaggerate so this nazi thing, for example, this is a classic case of, i think people seizing on interpreting something in the worst possible light. So for example, the word reich in this context was pulled from wikipedia talking about the reich before hitler was born, right . It wasnt nazi, it wasnt. Im sorry. Are you are you trying to suggest that the the use of the term unified reich, which by the way, literally no one uses, no one talks about reichs unless are talking about hitler in, in modern day, you really think that that was some kind of obscure reference to the right before hitler know that this is a reporting, this is reporting, this is in the New York Times is the reporting was that they lifted from the Wikipedia Page of preworld war won germany referred to as the second reich. Hitler was the third and they just lifted some language, pasted in there, has nothing to do with nazis are the editors for this because on any normal campaign in any normal part of life when you see something that references the reich, you are thinking about hitler and nazi germany. But this is the probably has incompetent staffers. Thats surprised nobody. And i dont think he hes very much on top of his campaign this is donald trump were talking about, theres a person that accidentally tweeted cafe. So i think on attribute to malice, what can be explained by just incompetent but his office becomes the reality of his world . Yes. And hes still very effective communicator. I think what frank was saying about all the people who are listening to this message and they feel excited about some of it. Its because of the way that he knows how to deliver a message and knows how to test the message. Part of what i think to your zero point about this conflicting messaging around what he would do around contraception is hes trying to figure out whats going to resonate with the base, whats not going to resonate with the base . And a lot of the stuff that he communicates around, deploying the National Guard. These are buzzwords, right . Americans here, deploy the National Guard and that signifies a power. So part of what trump is doing is very strategic in testing the messages and also deploying the right words that he knows are going to trigger people. So i know im sure to play host, but i still dont understand that two minutes. Did you started was it was fantastic if you want to make the case against donald trump. And yet the guy is still talking, winning. Let me ask you thats been indicted 91 times. Hes in court right now. Its embarrassing. Its kind of pathetic. Well, let me ask you that. Is it because americans see and hear all of these things and they its simply do not take him seriously. They look at an unknown to say that they look at issues because it really isnt issues anymore. And i apologize every time i sit next to a journalist because they wanted to be issues, but its really attributes, character traits, who we are as people and in the end they look and they think our countrys going to hell, you know, this is the most negative. Weve ever been in terms of division, the most pessimistic weve ever been in terms of the next generation. And they think that trump is better able to address that even with all the crap that he says. And its my warning to viewers that theyre not going to Pay Attention to whether its the second reich or the third reich. The naca Pay Attention those details. They are going to think whos going to put more money in my pocket, whos going to secure the border and in the end, whos going to improve my quality of life . Can we, can we also asked and thats i mean, when you ok. Lets put aside the alleged nazi reference. When you see that, i mean, do you believe that donald trump is in fact actually planning a potential second term that is far more extreme than even his first term. And that do you believe that that should be something that voters are concerned about . Yes and no my guess is that when he talks about these insane and beyond impractical, but plans to deport 20 million people, which have an additional ethical issues, practical issues my guess is it will probably again, end up like the same plan when he said it in 2015 and 2016 and then ended up deporting fewer people than obama did on the other hand, i do worry about the retaliatory prosecutions the idea that he will be nice yeah. Yeah. I worry more than he could Vindictively Weaponize weaponize the the legal system against his opponents, against those who were disloyal to him, against the long list of enemies he is hes made in the past four and eight years. I mean, thats that seems to me the more serious possible make no mistake. Thats his number one priority. The first thing he will do when he gets to office, he has said this is brand people who have proven loyalty to him and get rid of everyone including to your point at the top, Civil Servants that he doesnt think prioritize the needs of trump over everything. Yeah. Hes good tip are one thing, september with a reframe. This isnt all about trump. Its also about joe biden. There are a lot of democrats and democratic voters who havent come home that bidens rush. Its not like trumps winning a much extra votes by just hasnt closed yet. Yeah, you see that in the polls to everyones stick around for us coming out next as the Trump Defense rests its case. 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Donald trump did not, and will not testify in his own defense at the Hush Money Trial. Thats despite weeks of saying that he would yeah. I would just have i absolutely. Its a scam. Its a scam thats not a trail. Im testifying. I tell the truth. I mean, all i can do is tell the truth. Are you more or less likely you think to take the stand in the manhattan case right now, i know well, if its necessary, probably so i would like to i mean, i think so the jury is now one step closer to decide trumps fate as the defense rests, its case, prosecutors ultimately called 20 witnesses over 15 days of testimony, while trumps lawyers called just too, including one who legal experts called a disaster on the witness stand, the jury is now expected did you here Closing Arguments next week, joining me now to discuss this former Trump White House attorney jim scholtz, also with us former federal prosecutor, gene rossi jim, both sides rested Closing Arguments next week, this is i think going to come down to how much can the prosecution simplify this case . Hes for the jury, because ultimately it can get pretty messy this is gonna be very difficult Closing Argument for the prosecution. And the reason for that is just what you articulated. Its a very complicated case. The Jury Instructions are going to be confusing, no doubt about it. They are confusing the presentation has to be succinct short. Have appropriate timeline, and also tie everything together. And, and make up for the fact that Michael Cohen isnt the greatest witness. Hes got all the baggage he has all the things that were identified. So theyre going to have to work through all those issues and kind of talk hi, this case together in a way that doesnt make it entirely hinging upon the testimony of cohen, which is tough to do. So whats your gut tell you at this stage about what the jury might ultimately do here. Tough to say youre not in a courtroom watching the jury, youre not seeing what the jury is what their reactions arent everything. But i would not be surprised in any way, shape, or form at this came back with a hung jury that someone saying absolutely no way were not going to convict him. And someones because they absolutely he should be convicted that youre going to end youre going to have i wouldnt be surprised he had that push and pull and up with mr. Trump. So you only need one person technically to hang a jury, but its also not that common i mean, do you think thats a possibility i if i add a bit money right now and read the Tea Leaves Tashi Ogg Refi Reading The tea leaves, i would say theres going to be a hung jury if i had a bet money right now could he be found guilty . D of multiple capture . I dont know if hes going to run a table and be acquitted. But i want to follow up on what jim said ive done tax cases, ive done fraud cases and ive been trying to think about the theme that the prosecutor is going to have in what i call the final mosaic, the closing next tuesday and so complicated that many lawyers can understand it. And even though there are two lawyers on a jury, i got to tell you when actuary gets a net, the deliberation room, theyre going to have an epiphany. Theyre going to say, listen, this is the former president of the United States we have a herculean task. We are going to have to find him guilty of something if they dont understand the crime for which theyre supposed to find him guilty. Youre going to have a lot of questions during deliberations. And you could have one or two jurors holding out maybe more so. Okay. Let me play devils advocate here since but go ahead. Go ahead. Ultimately as simple presentation of the case, donald trump didnt want this to come out before an election. He directed his staff to reimburse Michael Cohen so that it wasnt didnt show up on the fec records he. Paid out a porn star thats the simple case. Is it not it is. But in the end, you really have to show that donald trump had knowledge and directed the debt Business Record be recorded that way that hinges on one person at this 0. 2 corroborate it. Its Michael Cohen. And if they dont believe him, if they think hes a lot hi, there and look, weve seen a lot of times with our liars on the stand, people another liars. They still believe their testimony. But if they believe hes a liar and theres one person that says, no way am i believe in Michael Cohen cases over yeah. I mean, Michael Cohen is a liar. Do you think that the defense adequately invalidated all of his tests . Some one because i mean, hes owned up to his lives. Well, i was telling jim samadhi bulgur von or killed 19 people. And he was the john godhes henchmen he basically told on a wiretap said to his henchmen, if you go to florida grand jury, you should lie 50 of the time. Tell the truth, 50 of the time, the jury believed everything he said. So a liar can be believed by a jury i had that in my cases were liars were believed by a jury for Michael Cohen. Heres where the rubber meets the road. Its what you said. Can you place Donald Trumps mind when he signs those checks . In his criminal intent, that when he had the false invoice that it was connected somehow to affecting the election. He may have known there were something shady with the souffle invoice, but he has to have the mens rea of the intent to connect it to a crime such as Election Dilation and other than Michael Cohen, you have to rely on Circumstantial Evidence that may not be enough. Yeah. With two lawyers on the jury. Thats going to be an interesting picture. Gentlemen. I want to move on to something slightly different because today we actually got an update on that. Other case that donald trump is involved with this the documents case, the new unsealed documents show that the fbi authorized the use of deadly force in the maralago rain. Trump, his allies are making a big thing of this. Theyre saying that this was some kind of attempt by the fbi to authorize them to harm drop, right . Right. Whats the what are the facts . I did i did a lot of Search Warrants, reviewed them, wrote them its Standard Operating Procedure for the fbi or any any federal agency, your state agency, when they execute a Search Warrant, they have the authority to use deadly force if necessary. So, if Donald Trumps complaining about how in an affidavit or procedurally, they had the authority to use deadly force, join a club. Youre just like any other citizen. You shouldnt be treated any different. It feels a little bit like Playing With Fire Two Insinuate Something Like that about what the fbi is doing, which is basically what they do with every absolutely like donald trump stands for political, political points here. And so are as advocates and in the end, remember, she could services their Secret Service knew this was coming Secret Services onsite there Law Enforcement at the end of the day again, this is Standard Operating Procedure. This is not a yonder me. Yeah. I agree. I agree. I agree. And they should stop lying about it to gene rossi, jim scholtz. Thank you all very much. So that is the legal part of this. Now, the political more of trumps red tie ally showing up at court today, including one who likened trump and his crowds to the pope theres not another person on the planet that can do that. Then the pope, the pope. And when do people go, they visit the pope. What do they say post . What can you do . Would you bless me and my family . Thats what they want. Big one blesses for their family when they go see the folt, when people come down with trumps rallies or st. Now, we need you more than ever before. Our country is burning okay. Tried to me now as host of cnn smerconish, michael smerconish, thats interesting. My goal, but separate and apart from that, there are no cameras in this courtroom. Shame what a shame. All youve got, people like me and you reading transcript interpreting what was being said. Do you think americans are paying attention to all the nittygritty details of whats been transpiring the last i know some americans are the people in my orbit, those who listened to by radio program, the folks that i associate with, were all kinda caught up in all the detail of it. But i have my fear or concern that for other folks, theyre putting food on the table and their minds or in a lot of different places. Yeah. I mean undoubtedly right. But in addition to that, this is all stuff from 2016. I mean, thats an iana goh in the life of american politics. So is this dredging . Up old memories of who donald trump was in that time or does it just feel like same old, same old i think its baked in. I was mindful of the polls when the trial began that said that 20 some percent of those voting for donald trump said, but if hes convicted of a felony, then its a different story. I didnt believe it then, and i certainly dont believe it now, i think already baked in the cake is any outcome, even if its a conviction, i dont think it moves the needle. Abby, i talk about this case every day, ad nauseum on radio. The next person who calls me and says, i was for trump or i was against trump, but now will be the first color. Everybody has happened. Everybody is exactly where they were when it began. Yeah. Look, trump also has himself made this about whether or not you believe Michael Cohen or whether you believe him . He did not testify though as his right. He doesnt have to incriminate himself, but does he hurt himself by not being willing to really put his credibility up against a Michael Cohen. I might have said yes, except for the way the evidence has come in. I think the revelation in the trial that Michael Cohens stole from donald trump is all the sound bite they need. So that if if hes convicted, he can go out his surrogates can go out and say what a sham that trial was. Can you believe they convicted me even though the lead witness against me is someone who acknowledged having stolen from the trump organization. So its a Sound Bite Waiting to happen so if youre a federal prosecutor right now, if youre jack smith. Oh, man, youre merrick garland. Are you watching youre not have higher whats going on. I think youre having connections i said it when alvin bragg was the first to bring an indictment, i said this is going to poison the well, this this will be the impression thats created for americans in all the indictments to fall hello, if there are other indictments and you just have to believe that jack smith is watching this unfold, hoping that he gets a shot before election day in all likelihood, he wont. But i think This Has Cast The Die for the perception of americans i mean, youre implying also that the jack smith case is a stronger case. So wire so if the evidence is there for jack smith, it shouldnt matter what happens and it shouldnt matter, but i think that the perception among many is that heres donald. Well, let me let me quote Fareed Zakaria i mean, if he werent donald trump, would he be being prosecuted in this new york courtroom . I agree with fareed. He probably would not, and i think that thats the perception of many but at the same time. Sure. If it werent donald trump, but this is indictment that is about donald trump doing something in service of trying to become president of the United States. Thats one of one kind of situation. And thats probably why its only i have have to say, is that what its really all about today . They have at the Charge Conference and theyre still not an articulation as to what the felony is. Ive had i had i had ever ive never charged this. It doesnt have to be articulated. Thats how new york law works. The jury just has to find that there was a crime. They dont have to say which one it is. They dont have to say that it was committed. They just have to believe to find that there was a crime committed. I know that youre right on the law. Its still doesnt make sense to me. Im an attorney. I tried cases for more than ten years. Donald trump name check me a week ago today because i made that observation on radio. Im not here to carry as water, but theres something wrong with that that you can sit there for a month long trial without any clear understanding of whats the crime that im defending myself against. Im troubled by that. So if this is a hung jury, right. Do you think that thats first of all, do you think that thats likely as one of trumps former attorney . I think i think its as likely as guilty. I see zero prospect for acquittal all right. Michael spare kaddish. Great to see you. Thank you, abby. 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This is cnn new tonight, a defiant response from israels Prime Minister sarah over potential charges against him from the International Criminal court for israels war in gaza. Heres Benjamin Netanyahu with cnns jake tapper therell, beyond outrageous. This is a Rogue Prosecutor that is put false charges and created false symmetries that are both dangerous and false. And the first fall symmetry is he equates the democratically elected leaders of israel with the terrorists, tyrants of hamas, thats like saying that well im issuing Arrest Warrants for fdr churchill, but also for hitler or im issuing Arrest Warrants for george bush. George w bush, but also for been lauded. Thats absurd here to discuss this with me, its a Washington Post Foreign Policy columnist, josh rogan. Josh good to see you. So netanyahu, there in that interview, he called it antisymmetric and slander to say that israel isnt going out of its way to minimize civilian casualties in this war. Do you think that that is supported by the facts . Well, a couple of things. First of all, its very clear that Prime Minister netanyahu is doubling down on his determination to defend his governments treatment of the civilians in gaza. And in a way, hes trying to take advantage of the fact that the icc is considering leveling these charges to play the victim into pretend that hes under attack and and i think that makes sense for him politically, although it doesnt your question, answer the real questions and the real disparities between what he said in that interview with jake tapper and the reality on the ground and the reality on the ground is that for over seven months, the Israeli Government has had a policy of preventing food from getting into gaza and other supplies through arbitrary and and onerous restrictions on aid passing into gaza according to everybody whos involved, including the aid organizations, the Us Government the palestinians, and everything that we see, everything that everybody can see on their phones every day, all day. So theres a huge gap between what hes saying and what your lying eyes are telling you. But i also think its just a counter productive in my personal view, two say that attacks on israeli policy or antisymmetric, the two have nothing to do with each other. Lots of jews have nothing to do with israeli policy in a very critical of it, including this tree right here. So theres also the question about what happens to gaza after this war is over. He addressed that he talked about a potential for idf occupation and basically ruled it out. Heres what he said taking off the table on israeli a few i mean, if you mean resettling if you mean resettling gaza yeah. It was never in the cards and i said so openly in some of my constituents are not happy about it, but thats my position. I would do is have a region construction of gaza. If possible, done by the moderate arab states and the International Community do you think, josh, that that is something that is possible or likely given where we are you know, possible but not likely. I mean, again, i think that yahoo is playing a political game with this issue because Everybody Knows that his war cabinet is completely divided over the issue of what happens the day after the fighting ends in gaza and the Biden Administration for months has been trying to convince netanyahu to accept some sort of arrangement that valves Palestinian Authority from west bank coming over and another mixture of, of, of gambits that would allow palestinians to run gaza. And basically netanyahu has his own plan and his own plan is that these military stays there as long as he wants and that nobody else can come in and somehow it all gets fixed by the arab countries. So again, its makes sense for him politically. It doesnt match the reality, but he doesnt really seem to care about that. And the timeline is really important there when, when, as you pointed out, when israeli troops leave, he doesnt really say that, but i do. Josh want to get to your most recent reporting really fascinating about what is happening with former president trump. Trumps if former ambassador to germany, rick are now he had a private dinner with a group of Arab American donors and activists tiffany trumps husband is also involved in this its one of many that they are organizing and Battleground States are they serious here about trying to appeal to voters . And are you actually hearing receptiveness to that among arab voters who might be disenchanted with President Biden met crazily enough. Its true that the Trump Campaign is not only devoting huge amount of resources and time into according Arab American and Muslim American voters. Key Battleground States that they also are making traction. And i talked to several of the attendees at that dinner in oakland hills, michigan, which is going on right now actually, as were on the air right now, and some of them are willing to hear out trumps envoy, rick renelle is former investor. Some of them are already on board with the trump train and their logic is pretty clear. They said, well, joe biden didnt do anything for us. When our Family Members are getting killed in gaza, who we might as well take a chance and Roll The Dice On Trump Two and they know that the best way to get in with trump is to get an early so you might not think that trump who has said so many horrible things about muslims and islam over the years, or rick are now would be a natural boy to the muslim or Arab American community. But here we are. Thats 2024 for you. According to the New York Times battle in Battleground States trump is leading biden on with muslim and Arab Americans, 57 to 25 and if that number doesnt blow your mind, nothing. Well, yeah. I mean, crazier things have happened. I suppose, but well find out im josh rogan. 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And while some are hosting events for biden, others are having him as a guest on their shows as you just saw, my panel is back with me coleman, i actually heard you chuckled. Did you jackal . Yeah that was pretty funny. Yeah. It might be its certainly cant hurt at the end of the day. I think a lot of late night comics have become more and more political over the past four years. Certainly, starting in 2016 with trump and as a result, the comedy has taken a hit, which is to say all that trump jokes are still funny because theyre willing to go at him really hard. But i think they play hole punches with democrats. They pull punches with biden and theres a lot to make front of there two on the right, you have a guy like gut feld where hes basically doing the opposite, right . Theres a lot to make front of him biden and he gets his ribs in there. But hes not really going to hes not going to go hard after trump and so at the end of the day, my preference as it political independent, i liked someone like bill maher i like someone like john stuart, someone thats really going to try to make fun in both sides. But at the end of the day, i mean, both of those guys are no fans of donald trump i mean, jamaal, what do you think the late night hosts or even accomplishing by doing this . I mean, is it mostly actually succeeding in helping them raise money . Because i mean 26 million, thats pretty decent for one night fundraiser. Are they moving votes . Well, celebrities dont move votes for candidates, but what they will do is provide a platform for the candidate to be able to show some part of themselves that they, you know, people will want to see again, i love the show with a lot of people dont believe why its big television. People are watching things on their phones, even and even when they watched the show, they watch it in clips because theyre seeing it from what people sharing it. And so what theyre trying to do from a political perspective is get in as many people both palms as they possibly can through these platforms that are much more entertainment or even if theyre gardening or their makeup shows or relationship advisers, they got to find a way to tap people who arent paying attention to the rest of us. Smart . Yeah, it is. And i think we have to also think about it from the Comedian Sayyed from the Late Night Host Sayyed ive always had a progressive ben, theres no question that hollywood and Democratic Politics have gone together for so long. Whats changed is that theres a little bit more advocacy in the post trump years. So you saw colbert hosting that huge fundraiser or being a part of that huge fundraiser with biden and obama a few weeks ago, you had colin jost Glorifying Biden next to him at the white house correspondents dinner, a lot of thats actually felt that there was some awkward sitting in the room for that. And then of course you have kimmel hosting this event. You have all of these late night hosts bringing these candidates on, trump obviously didnt show on those shows. And so whats shifted is that theres more advocacy from these comedians whether or not on its effective to your point, i dont know if its helpful for them and their ratings so much as its helpful for the candidates taking advantage. So frank, im told that you have a poll for you asked registered voters who they respected more 39 said trump 36 said biden. And 25 said taylor swift. Yes. I guess its not really that surprising mortar. Oh, taylor swift has the support of a quarter of the country, but shes got a plurality of voters, 18 to 29. And i think heres the warning. Bruce springsteen went around doing concerts for Hillary Clinton with hours to go in the election in 2016 Tens Of Thousands of people were showing up. He was up on stage the whole cultural elite of america were up there screaming hillary, hillary and they voted against her this does not represent mainstream america. You talk about working class, to talk about union members. You talk about latinos. Thats not who theyre looking for. They dont want someone whos famous, but taylor swift is different and if she goes at trump, as i think she will in the end im then watching will joe rogan get involved because could you imagine the Battle Royale between taylor swift and joe rogan . It will be so entertaining. Itll make it worth watching the election. But my yes, but as she went hard after Marsha Blackburn and blackburn still one exactly. And so theres a limit to it but cultural people can do that. There might even be backlash to Cultural Icons kinda telling people what to do, how to vote yeah, this is a serious election than weve ever had in my lifetime. I know they said all the time, but i think we can agree that theres never been a bigger difference between trump and biden if you throw a singer into that and throw a podcast host into that, i dont think its going to be received. Well, that said this is going to be decided by thousands of votes, not millions of votes. And anything can make a difference. I mean, do you agree with that heres where i think theres there is evidence that people on the left who believed that down from his autocratic right, there are some evidence that the way you after an autocrat as to make fun of them. And that the more you make fun of them, the more you bring him down in a way for people to not admire him so much. And so i think part of going after trump so much does kind of remind people of the things they dont like about them and they laugh about it, which doesnt add to his cultural cache. We have to go in a second, but isnt the risk here also, if there 50 of the country roughly supported trump, okay . A lot of those people dont like be lumped being lumped in with being made fun of beat for that support. Sure. Sure. Yeah. But i think john stewart made a very good point about a month ago when he came under criticism for making front of biden on his first show. Back and he said, look, if you really believe that its important to beat trump what we have to do. Im paraphrasing is to get some Credibility Back by being able to make fun of biden the problem is that so many of those voters that youre talking about, the reason that they dont care what Bruce Springsteen has to say is because for them the elites have lost all credibility by being advocates. They say, okay, fine. I know youre democrats. Why should i listen to anything you say and i think its important to restore that credibility and be careful that youre not attacking the voters when youre attacking the candidates, you attack the voters. Theyll punish you. All right, guys, everyone. Thank you very much for being here. Historic space launch over 60 years in the making. Why this one was so special and what jfk has to do with that, that stacks when the competition is a nuclear competition, spying is extraordinarily important. The russians were trying to spy on us. We were spying on them its very difficult to determine from whom you can trust. I was telling frank everything got Out Of Control this is a war, but secret was secrets and spi a nuclear game, premier sunday, june 2, that ten on cnn, when migraine strikes youre faced with a choice, right it out with the tradeoffs of treating or push through the pain and symptoms with you . Rarely, theres another one. 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He graduated in the top half of this class. But after kennedy was assassinated, dwight was ultimately passed over leadership at the Pilot School Felt his selection was political it would take another 15 years for nasa to finally accept black astronauts and another five years after that in 1983, for geo and blue for it to become the first africanamerican in space that was going to be the First Black Astronaut completed astronaut training. Every everything that we did, i did let did it well everybody has to stayed up angry. Im most savannah disappointed. I most severe as ill look at a philosophically , my role in the whole process was to open up a conversation about blacks in the space and so i saw served a purpose. And i was very proud of and he should be proud many black astronauts, so credited dwight for paving the way for them. After putting his space dreams on hold for decades, dwight became an air force pilot. He worked for ibm. He started a construction company. 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