Possibility, but now were getting to the point where its put up or shut up now his. Attorneys say that they dont call it. Im going to call any more witnesses. And so based on that, it seems like theyre not going to call them. But in trump world, you really dont know until the very last second, do you . And they really dont have to tell us du that very last second. Now, if he doesnt, it will put a lot more weight on Michael Cohens testimony. And today cohens credibility, its quite another hit with the revelation that he had stolen money from the Trump Organization more on that in a new york minute. But there was another person on the hot seat today this time and i rolling sayyed, giving witness who annoyed the judge so much . The judge cleared the courtroom to dress him down. Im talking about robert costello, a former adviser and Michael Cohen and took the stand for the defense today and describe an april 2018 meeting that he had with cohen about the Stormy Daniels payments. Now, from the transcript and im quoting here question what did he say about that specific topic . Because l0 answers Michael Cohen said numerous times that President Trump knew nothing about those payments that he did this on his own. And he repeated that numerous times. Now that disputes as youre aware of cohens assertion that he paid off Stormy Daniels at the direction of drum and that trump was aware of the alleged scheme to disguise reimbursements to cohen now, the de has provided documents and checks and invoices to try to support their 34 count case. But the da had still relied quite heavily, even though is pre corroborated on cohens testimony and it connect all of these different dots. Now, throughout the entire trial, the jury is heard a lot of nasty things about Michael Cohen from various witnesses here is it just a sampling on your screen . And today they got one more bit of unflattering information to consider. Because on the stand today, cohen himself admitted to stealing from the Trump Organization. Goh and admitted that he when he said he need to be reimbursed 50,000 from paying and it firm to help trump for polling and such. It turns out he only paid them 20 grand. And by the way, it was in a brown paper bag. I can make this up meaning he was telling 30,000 for himself. Now, pointblank from the transcript question. You never gave the 30,000 that was owed the guy that owned red finch, did you answer . No. No, sir. Question. So you stole from the Trump Organization, right . Answer. Yes, sir. Well, i want to bring in a reporter who was in court today, Law Enforcement reporter for the washington post, devlin barrett. Devlin i have been looking to you as my well, not the david pecker type, but my eyes and ears into the courtroom day in and day out in manhattan it was another dramatic de let me read for audience what happened after judge merchan cleared the courtroom. Okay judge merchan told costello, im putting you on notice that your conduct is contemptuous. If you try to stare me down one more time, i will remove you from the stand. I will strike his entire testimony. Do you understand me . Fans turning beauvais replied, yes, judge. I understand. Then the judge said, listen to the question and answer the question because l then chimed in can you hear me, please . The judge . No. No. This is not a conversation. Now, frankly, this could also have been in my house, so i can to my children but peeled back the curtain for us because this point tells us so much what was the atmosphere like . So as telling us those words are and they are very telling. I got to say in the room, you could see the anger boiling between those two guys a long time before it actually came to actual words between them and thats important. And the witness yes, the judge and the witness were mad at each other. They were driving each other bonkers before the jury left the room. It was not really verbal, but the Body Language between them was terrible as costello kept talking over the judges sustained objections. And look, bob costello was a very long practicing lawyer. He knows exactly what objection. Sustained means, and he can kept going. And that clearly infuriated the judge and the Body Language was terrible. And at that moment, the jury gets sent out of the room and you and ive talked about this before. I think jurors really, really focus in on the Body Language of the lawyers, particularly the judge and i think the Jury Saw Everything they needed to see just in the facial expressions and the posture of those two men before the judge and the witness started really before the judge really started going after the witness. What was a terrible by language, what was going on were sean, i think it was just flabbergasted that this again, veteran lawyer who knows what objection sustained. Means keeps talking over the objection and i think there were there was a moment where work bob costello waved his hand, an in exasperate, like can you believe this . He didnt say those words, but, you know what that Hand Expression is. I feel like human beings actually understand each others Body Language pretty well. And he just sort of waved his hand it gives me a break with this. And boy, the judge did not like that and the judge stiffened. And from that point on, it really was just a matter of time before the judge ordered ordered the jury out to talk to costello. What are the jury were they obviously reacting fast today . Was a kind of having a Tennis Match Head looking because up until now, i mean, were john has been described as somebody whos been even killed. Ive been in the courtroom, he has been is quite incontrol. There was even a point in time a few weeks ago now and the trial where the Defense Counsel asked the judge not too if trump were to testify bring up any ruling that he had made about holding in Contempt Of Court are fighting a violation because they respect you so much and theyre going to have you say it and tell him that you ordered this or rule this itll be very prejudicial, so theyve already respect to them what was the jury doing now . So in that moment, you got to remember that the judge and the witness sit very close to each other. I think that was part of the reason why there was so much tension because there wasnt any distance. They were all of two or three feet away from each other so the juror, the jury was just trained on the two of them and you could see the jurors sort of center of gravity, their center of focus sort of shift just to what was happening on a Witness Stand and like i said, it was very clear that what castello was doing was infuriating to the judge so much so that when he did, he starts to yell yelling at the at the witness, right. And then at some point he gets so mad that costello was angularly staring at him and to be clear, i was in the room he was definitely angrily staring at him, that he ordered the courtroom cleared, so that he could yell at the witness of more without all the reporters around, which to be honest, i havent seen that before. Plenty of people like to yell at each other in front of reporters. In my experience, but i dont think that was clear to the audience. I think that people talk about the courtroom been cleared. They thought the jury was alone to leave. You mean the whole courtroom was cleared for this dress down, the hole . Well, the whole courtroom except for trumps supporters who are in his rose, it was really just the press and the public that had to leave wow, and so as soon as the judge said that the Court Officers started yelling at all the reporters. Fair enough. Thats sort of how a Court Officers operate. But it was really a fairly loud, confusing situation because at that point, the reporters themselves start objecting and asking to be heard on the question of if youre going to yell this witness shouldnt the public know that shouldnt the public here that and so it was a fairly confusing few minutes wow, devlin thick around. This is adding a whole another element visit when i continue that conversation with Senior Correspondent for the wall street journal, molly ball, cnn legal analyst, elliot williams, criminal offense 30. Bill brennan represented Donald Trumps Payroll Corporation and tax fraud trial, and trumps council during a second impeachment. And former assistant us attorney kim wally. First of all, let me just for a moment, take a second to clear the courtroom to have someone in a witness be dressed down. Have you ever seen anything like that, elliott and then of course depressed to say we want to stay not because youre just nosy want to know whats going on that for this, judge seems shocking. So how abnormal this is, it goes back to the constitution. Kims world, which is at the constitution guarantees open trials and virtually every proceeding its not just that we liked to have people in the media visiting court. Its because its a valid all you in the United States. And so the idea that, uh, judges kicking the press out for at least a temporary moment is quite significant. Now, why did that happen . Think of it this way, that there are bill and i were talking about this earlier today. There are circumstances where jurors dont like a prosecutor. Some people didnt like me as odd as that that may seem its very, very, very likeable, likeable, likeable enough. Some may not like the defense attorney. Everybody respects the judge they they see the robe. They see the authority, they see the person sitting from up on high. And when that is questioned or challenged, its a problem in the courtroom and its an anomaly. And so the judge had to maintain some order. This is not something you see because it was a remarkable moment. What the, way pick them with a value of his testimony that when you think about that, the fact that hes there up into that point, everyone had been talking about Michael Cohen, right . Theyve been talking about the revelations, although the prosecution had tangentially referenced the idea that he had taken so many in the past than direct. It was a bombshell that it came out and for at least us observing it but then it entirely its a castello. Did he serve a purpose other than to have this headline now that hadnt to clear a courtroom laura, whatever benefit that they hope to get from mr. Costello was far outweighed by the detriment of this interchange with judge merchan and the proof of that is were sitting here tonight not talking about a disbarred lawyer stealing 60,000 from his client were talking about 30 plus times to three from that bright fringe, and then times two for the tax purposes and then get to that eventual four. Yes. Which is as you say, a bombshell instead, were talking about this nonsense because a witness decides to make an all about himself elliotts right jurors like judges, as a rule. And i spent a lot of time with judge moore. Can hes exceptionally likable. The he Steven Spielbergs version of a judge and the jurys its not going to play well, the jury and again, just from a strategy standpoint, they knocked it Out Of The Park today with this 60,000 theft. The world of Attorney Misdeeds Ceiling from a client is like firstdegree murder. I mean, were talking about some guy that made all about himself, picked a battle. He couldnt win. The purpose of castello, it seems was to suggest that Michael Cohen was not to be believed that there was in fact, no dangling of pardons, i think was part of what his strategy is supposed to be in talking about and holy discredit him in that realm, where are not talking about that. The jury likely remember the moment they were cleared from a courtroom. But what purpose would he have started here . The prosecution. Were you nervous about having costello testified . Well, it sounds like as you indicated that they wanted him to first of all, dispute Michael Cohens story about what trump did and did not know which its almost a standin for donald trump himself, right . So thats the key issue here who did donald trump direct these payments . Really the only direct testimony is Michael Cohens testimony. I think the other piece is this this kind of insinuation that cohen had that donald trump was somehow messaging through costello and julian dani, listen if you keep quiet, ill take care of you and it sounds like the defense sought that was significant enough that they needed to rebut it, but i agree to disrespect the judge like this, particularly given that trump and his posse are out there trashing the judge every day after court. Weve got multiple Content Citations for donald trump for disrespecting the judge. The judge has to understand theyre much bigger implications around the country for this behavior, not just in one of the jury, which might be why to eliots point, that he decided to balance the fairness of the trial and security of the trial in over the right of the practice, even though it even though it didnt have the conference with the attorneys, didnt happen in front of the jury. They saw they saw the complication right before that, and know full well, that the witness was getting scolded and theyre going to judge that witness. And quite frankly, the defendant was all the above us, the equivalent give us a moment. Would you write you get let me let me talk to you for a second privately. They know whats going on in the round, but you know, what trump came out and talked about this. He said he alluded to in his after the courthouse conference, it suggests that the way he treated castello, he mentioned it, but there was a moment im wondering, you can explain for us to there is always been this tension clinically trump on the Campaign Trail, trump as the president , trump as his own best spokesperson, wants people to believe that he is in control full stop but this defense has to suggest that he was hustled by someone like Michael Cohen can he balance that in a way that he kinda looking good on the Campaign Trail while in the other thing we know about donald trump is that he demands that people defend him at all times, right . Hes always got to be surrounded by these sort of yes, men who are singing his praises and all of the coterie of Republican Capella petitions whove come to court to stand beside him and say the things that he cant say. And so you do get the sense. I mean, this is the first and potentially only defense witness and they didnt have to call anyone. But you get the sense that trump felt he needed to be defended. He needed someone up there saying what he couldnt say, even if its going to end up being damaging, even if it wasnt a good idea legally, he is always demands that there is someone speaking in his defense and you get the sense he probably wants to do it probably well be talked out of it. It seemed not a legal expert, but it seems to be the unanimous opinion of the Legal Profession that you should not testify by any means, but you can feel how much he wants to do it and how much he yearns to have someone up there speaking for him in this case, even if thats not necessarily a good idea in court. And of course people who are behind him in the courtroom, he certainly trying to send a message that way i wonder what the jurors feel thats the big question that everyone is wondering still and we dont have the answer to how do they received the information . Are they following along . Are they leaning in on what we perceive as the biggest moments in the court . Or are they thinking about it, or are they thinking on other issues thats the moment this is what is so telling him so intriguing really about the Justice System in america. Thank you to all of you up next, diddy releasing im not going to call it an apology, but the word sorry, i was in there. Sure. Days after video showed him assaulting casi in a Los Angeles Hotel not asking for forgiveness sorry my next guest says his words meaningless. Plus and one of the most wellknown ai companies try to imitate the voice of scar joe. Even after her refusals. She says, yes. 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Did he said that people like cassie were trying to quote, assassinate my character, destroy my reputation and my legacy did he said, then they were looking for a quick payday then remember the time when the video came out on friday. Video, im about to show you again and must remind you, is very disturbing because it shows a Woman Cowering on a hotel floor in los angeles as diddy was kicking her and dragging her Throwing Objects toward her the la county da said it cannot prosecute diddy for this incident because the statute of limitations on Domestic Violence cases is five years and recall this was 2016 the public fallout is snowballing. Hollywood reporter says that Streaming Activity for diddy dropped by as much as 50 last week compared to december of 2023. New york citys mayor, eric adams, is considering revoking diddys key to the city after watching the video remember merriams a former Police Officer and did he faces at least five civil lawsuits and a federal criminal probe. All of which came after caseys lawsuit which wondering me now with salah misha till it shes a Pulitzer Prize winning professor at Records University and also president of nonprofit along walk home, which works to end violence against women and girls. So let me show thank you so much for being here. I had to tell you when i heard that while i guess were, calling it an Apology Video thats how hed like people to think about it as an Apology Video. Im assuming it began a whole lot about him his dark place. He said that he was in his feelings about being disgusted by that. I do know that they did not mention cassie and the apologize, apparently neither of them are allowed to speak about the other publicly because of the terms of their settlement. But did he approach this or apologize in a way that demonstrated remorse . Well first of all thank you for having me on your show and also just for the work that youve done for so long on behalf of victims of Domestic Violence the apology youre welcome. So the apology one question comes to mind quickly as would he have given this apology if there were no video and the answer is clearly no because he had several months since the lawsuit was filed in december to come forward with remorse, contrition, or some accountability. So we didnt see any of that. And i think pretty pretty consistently until this moment hes denied all of these allegations. Now, we have this video, this very clear video of violence. And now we have an apology. And so i think thats why it rings hollow for so many people because there have been so many opportunities before this moment to make amends or to show some remorse or on ability. In fact, what hes been saying consistently is that these people are liars that shes in fact a liar. So thats, thats one thing. The other thing i want to say too is that as you pointed out, according to the settlement agreement, there it cant speak about each other but it does seem to me that if youre genuinely honest in your desire to make a man and to tone to be held accountable by some standard. You may want to go back and look at that and we maybe have her release her from her inability to speak about you publicly. So it doesnt really seem like theres any actual attempt to make amends with the victim of the violence in this case cassie and theres no attempt to really show a systemic way of a tony. Atony. Oneself in public. It just seems like the video is the only form and forum in which were seeing contrition. You make a great point. Although you are free to contract and settlements as you see fit, there is a level of silence that now you have have to abide by and giving some protection to the person that you are accusing. You talk about accountability. I think its important to mention this people may recall meghan the stallion, and she had this incredible oped that she wrote. And i think its so poignant now to revisit because of the way she described how she was treated when she made an allegation against somebody in the industry and how as a woman, she was received and there was this remember, the she alluded to this after the fellow rapper a Tory Lanes Cricket of shooting her in the foot and she wrote, before the verdict, quote, even some of my peers in the Music Industry piled on with memes, jokes, and sneak dices and completely ignored the fact that i could have lost my life instead of condemning any form of violence against a woman. These individuals tried to justify my attackers actions similarly, when her allegations first came out, cassie, im talking about there were so many who doubted so many who were blaming her. And there appeared to be this culture of silence that she was supposed to have abided by why is that present . Well, one of the things i find striking about this video, and people now suddenly believing that she may have been in fact telling the truth is that the lawsuit was so detailed in its description and so detailed in the repetition of the behavior that it seemed to me that itd be hard not to believer. But now that we have this video evidence, i guess there are more people who are seeing that this, in fact may have happened and that at least in this one moment, that she wasnt telling a lie for me when i watched this video and probably for you and many other people out there, i also see a woman whos trying to escape a violent situation. And so oftentimes Domestic Violence victims are blamed because people say, well, why didnt they leave, or why couldnt they get out and so what you see here repeatedly is someone trying to escape a really, really, really deadly, almost deadly are very violent situation might shes going to the elevator so shes on the telephone. There. Shes literally on the ground trying to avoid blows. And so if anything, and i think this is a really humiliating video to be released, i think this is something that she would not have wanted to be in the Public Sphere for us to see. And yet, i do think it proves how difficult it is and how when it individuals and institutions cover up or basically allow this behavior to happen. So there had to be someone who watched this video and didnt send it to the police. I mean, theres just so many layers to that video and the ways in which she remained trapped in that situation despite the fact that she was trying to so thats one thing i just want to say that we have evidence of her leaving and being pulled back literally into a situation that she could not fend herself, are defend herself from but then the other question is, why wasnt she believed when theres there was someone had physical evidence of this . I think it goes back to this idea that very few survivors, when they come forward, are believed most people, i think are identified with the people who are the perpetrators of the crime or the people who are the allegations are against very few people identify with the victims. So that thing that happens in our head that we naturally identify with those who are in power versus though we see those we see as powerless, often happens with youve seen this in your work with victims of Domestic Violence or in other cases, Sexual Assault, then when you have the race aspect here, African American women, black women women of color are oftentimes under believed were not seen as the ideal or the perfect victim of Sexual Assault for a lot of reasons, but mostly historical reasons going back to who was seen as jasmine, who raped it does about the image back to slavery and that just stays with us and hasnt really gone away because weve had gains. Its still there. I think black women in general, women of color, often are not seen as victims of violence. And therefore, when they come forward with these allegations, theres a kneejerk response of whether probably lying or its maybe more complicated than what we hear or we have video evidence. But now maybe we find i believe im sorry. Its in no, no. I im so glad were speaking because its so important, i really do hear you when you speak about these issues because maybe its time for us that you used the word humiliating to me. Its humiliating to be a part of a society that would engage in behavior that assumes that one can have a presumption of innocence for one who is accused, but then give an extraordinary burden on somebody who is seeking help. It doesnt compute in somebodys minds let me shade till it. Thank you so much thank you. And if you are someone that you know is a victim of Domestic Violence and needs help you can call the Domestic Violence hotline that number 80799, safe. 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Now will biden is trying to shore up jewish support. Hes still facing a growing faction of his own party that wants to see him doing more to help the palestinian people. Molly bat mall ball is back with us now along with dan ravi, they former cvs use Foreign Correspondent and the author of spies against armageddon karen funny, it seemed a little commentary is also joining us and joe walsh, a former republican congressman. First of all, karen, thats a pretty fullthroated response action. How let play for him politically . Well, its going to please some people. And as weve seen, it is going to anger others for the folks who have been protesting. I dont theyre not going to like that. They probably were happy with what they heard coming out of the icc today. But thought was interesting the way this played out. So the president was very strong you had secretary of state Antony Blinken also with a very strong statement that really undermine the investigation. At the same time, the readout that we saw from the meeting that Jake Sullivan had in the region. Hes still raised concerns about rafah and about a humanitarian assistance and whats happening to the palestinian people, which i think is important. Again, it goes to a unit ive talked about before. What you have to do diplomatically is not necessarily what you have to do politically, although in this instance, the president i think is leading with what is the right thing to do. Well, youre right, there is still divisions, therefore, between biden and netanyahu theyve been friends as they like to say, or maybe frenemies for decades. And lately, of course, President Biden has stepped up the criticism of netanyahu, and i think the administration here in washington has generally been saying that israel would be better off without netanyahu. The message has been clear to israelis, but this attempt to bring well under arrest to the International Court suddenly, the us and israel make common cause, even inside israel. And thats i know it was opposition has come out in favor of him there, so insulted by this icc so for today, at least its good for netanyahu. It really seems to have been a gift to him. I mean, you have a lot of the democrats who have been increasingly critical of israel as this, as the war has gone on were coming to its, reminded me a little bit of when the Rocket Attack on israel what happened and suddenly israeael has allies. I, it really was a reminder of which side the us is on. And i think it may backfire on the court more than anything. Here there was a moment i want to play for everyone. He was speaking at morehouse is commencement over the weekend, the president of United States was. And you remember there were calls for him not to even deliver the speech at the college over the white house. His stance on israel. Heres re said its a humanitarian crisis. Youve got thats why ive called for an immediate ceasefire an immediate ceasefire to stop the fighting. Bring the hostages home not been working on. Ive deal as we speak working around the clock to leading International Effort to get more for aid into gaza as karen made the point, joe, hes going to have to play kate a lot of different sides of an issue and try to be the panacea politically. Is it working . Can you do that . Hes trying to play it both ways. This is a tough issue. Because this divides his coalition. But hes got to do and say what he believes and what we heard from biden today. Again, is what he believes. It is outrageous what the icc did. There is no moral equivalence. Israel is not committing genocide forget what i believe thats what biden believes. Hes got a divided coalition. I think laura would hurts him is when vote American Voters see him vacillating back and forth on this issue. Be strong, be what he believes and he needs to get those voters in the middle. Now, one thing us and israel, theyre not members of the icc, by the way but they still are supporting the iccs investigation into the russian or and then their war crimes in ukraine. You talked about playing both sides kennedy, us have it both ways and in general, the us is against the icc. It is true russia, vladimir putin, they are bad guys. So the us didnt mind that theres even a warrant for putin and thats true. But in general, the uss against the icc what is that . Well, frankly, because theres a fear among us officials that the us military, us commanders also could be named for alleged war crimes in a lot of the action that the us military takes, dont forget if were talking about the middle east especially war is dirty. War is difficult and so all sorts of charges can come up, and it could be a problem for the us if the us allowed itself to be open to that its exactly for the reason of things like this, right . Where you have warrants issued that are questionable in the eyes of many, certainly in the eyes of allies of israel. And thats precisely the reason that the us and israel havent joined the icc because they dont trust it to be fair and impartial and give all nations the same treatment. Whats next though . I mean, i mean, lets just its the first time the icc is targeting a us ally by the way wouldnt a member country actually seek to enforce these Arrest Warrants if this actually goes through and what would be the reaction of the United States with hb well, i think it depends on how the rest of this unfolds. I mean, its sort of interesting if you think about leading up to this, even internally it and israel, the war cabinet we were seeing reports was sent was pushing that to know to say, wheres the plan. So i think part of it will depend on can they get the warrants and how does the rest of this unfold as two . Webb i mean, the full system as to whether or not people would then try to enforce those arent if the warrant is approved by the icc judges, youll find that on yahoo and as Defense Minister not visiting Key Countries like britain and france that are committed to carrying out warrens like this. But youre right within israel right now. Its, are you, are they going to completely invade rafah off or not . Jake sullivan, the President National security adviser, had meetings with all the top israelis and he was listening in that readout also from the us side he was listening to the israelis and theyre rafah plan. He wasnt negating it. But politically this was a gift to biden and he took advantage of it because i think this really strengthens him its very curiously how this will all unfold and what will happen next. Thank you so much, everyone. Ahead. Does this sound familiar are you about to reveal something about ai or more specifically about me as a openai its called johansen says it really does sound familiar and she is calling out the ai Company Behind it. What is kara swisher think about it . Shes here while shes there, shes here next gentlemen . Just like every turn party cant stand up play lets get slippage, just stepped in and go without bending being down or touching my shoes. Why pitt handsfree Sketches Slip is to type two diabetes, discover the ozempic tries zone i got Power Of Three. I lowered my a1c cdi risk and lost some weight and studies the majority of people reached an a1c under seven and maintained it. 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Listen wherever you get your podcasts going, iv guy ford every would exert really drug, right and stuff now say, id like a slice of cheese, please. Id like a slice of cheese, please. Law corporate that i figured you hungry what you just saw was a clip from the 2013 movie her the scene depicts what a date with Artificial Intelligence might just look like. The ai assistant voice by none other than Scarlet Johanson. And lets fast forward to today because the tech company openai announces chatgpt version four. Oh, and as part of the launch, it debuted a Voice Assistant. So what does it sound like . Well lets watch the demo. Words when it comes to the announcement is about me well, color me intrigued are you about to reveal something about ai or more specifically about me as a parent of openai, youve caught me on the edge of my well, i dont really have a seat, but you get the idea . Once the big news now thats openai as new sky voice, does it sound familiar . Well, a lead immediately following the e demo that demo openai Ceo Sam Altman send out a tweet. One word per. Now, johanson is speaking out. Shes saying that she turned down not one, but two offers from openai Ceo Sam Altman to have her voice the chatgpt system. She saying this in a statement when i heard the released demo, i was shocked angered, and in disbelief that mr. Altman would pursue a voice that sounded so eerily similar to mine. Its called Johansen Lloyd Up and tonight the sky voice is on pause openai saying the sky voice was not derived from johanson but instead belonged to a different professional actress using her own natural speaking voice. During we now see that contribute an author burn book, kara swisher alright, qarrah, first of all, is the sky voice yours that the big news right now, whats going on . Yes, thats me. Yes. Im not even here right now. This karam has gone era i always suspected bad. But what do you think does she sound lights project or hansen to you a little bit. I mean, they were trying for that tone of voice. I mean, people in Silicon Valley, but long been intrigued by the movie for many, many years. I never liked it that much and also they didnt realize how it ended, which was not happy. But they for some reason thinks this is the ideal thing to create, which an ai you can date as a geeky person, but you know, it, it does sound like cards. Its for tone of voice and they were going forward. Obviously they pursued or so they wanted that voice and i do know many people in Silicon Valley are intrigued with the concept of that of interest of a flirty color me surprise. I dont have a seat sort of this idea of an ai. You can have a relationship with having watched the movie. It is intriguing that they didnt wait to watch all way the end, but openais chat gtp, gpt, excuse me, is the name when it comes to Artificial Intelligence, this seems like a pretty big, i mean blunder to have launched it and then to have it be on pause. What does this say about the way the Company Maybe predicted or is operating . What would come next . Well, welcome to startup land. This is not a, not a big company even though its worth a lot its competing against Big Companies including microsoft, which is an investor, but amazon meta google, google alphabet, and so its trying very hard to maintain a lead, so it doesnt become netscape, which is what happened in the first iteration of the inner internet where a very Pioneering Company got crushed essentially its trying to do all kinds of things. It was also had a little history of the fight between the safety people and the move ahead with products people that sort of reared it said, last week when several safety people left the company and said, theyre focusing on shiny new products. But not safety. So its been a bit of turmoil at the startup, but this is super common to companies. This ones not great because youre going against Scarlet Johanson. And as you know from the disney fight, i wouldnt bet on scarlet johansson ill probably five to seven days a week. You should bet on her capacity, but i mean, were talking about it i mean, sometimes startups love to have some buzz and people are now talking about the sky voice. And is it her, is it not her . And you say its not . Well, this actually hurt or help the company in the long run i dont think its good. It comes to Ghost Credibility and things like that along with this other stuff that was happening there last week of some departures. I think the question is opening. I started with this idea of a Public Private partnership and its very difficult to maintain because it really is a for profit the company and theres so much money to be made. And so youre going to see these kind of shortcuts happening the image of tech right now around ai is its stealing and grabbing everything. So this is not good for the general, the general idea. And then a couple of weeks ago, apple had its crushed video where they were crushing artwork and things like that it looked like they were crushing creators. Creators, especially in hollywood, are very worried about what ai means in terms of taking their voices and they did it thats really interesting point about the way its proceed. Its not necessarily proceeding as additive. And so many ways is often perceived as a threat. Remember, the strikes have just one last summer, we know how that all happened. The daily show recently had some words for chatgpt is four os new Voice Assistant listed this you can really tell that a man built this text. Shes like, i have all the information in the world, but i dont know anything h me daddy. I mean, is there appointment shes making here, i mean, this idea of is bro culture pardons luck and valley you know, it is obviously, but i think more importantly is they just take whatever they want. I have always called from google to facebook to all the others. Theres sort of a patients Information Thieves and so this is what that feels like. Its like they, they tried to get Scarlet Johanson. She said no and theyre like, well, make someone whos like Scarlet Johanson its sort of shows that lack of care and its not a good luck for Silicon Valley. This idea that they can take and ghraieb anything they want. And this is why i always talk about with you, laura regulators getting in here and understand and whos running things. But right now, its Big Companies and wellfunded Companies Like openai and they can do what they want. I gotta tell you, i nominate you to be the voice of whatever it would be. I would take it seriously a heartbeat. I mean, i want you to be my new ways voice, frankly, and just not to say put down that phone, laura, youre on it too much. What if its coming across the car play, what are you talking about . Cargo, call me out. I would never never kara swisher. Thank you so much. Thanks a lot you know, ahead i smile just thinking about her attribute to a dear friend. And one of cnn zone back in a moment simons are going off and playing the tornado here im thinking, im going to die and i thought that was it with Liev Schreiber premieres june 2 had nine on cnn youre calling some people find theres at an early age. Others later in life no matter when you find it. Instead of yourself, lucky because becomes your everything are calling was to build trucks. 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