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For donald trump. Well he has got a message on his own plus the Breaking News out of taiwan. Have you seen the images already . A massive earthquake rattles the island. The strongest quake and italy, quarter of a century, a live update and just moments tonight alarm codes lie all right, by now, weve all heard about the undecided right. But President Biden his face and what we maybe his mode worrying opponents so far in the battleground state of wisconsin, the uncommitted, theyre coming, theyre counting switching those primary votes as we speak. And now weve got another vocab term to consider. The uninstructed so far there are more than 37,000 votes for uninstructed and even though biden won easily, 37,000 votes is nothing and erase as tight as this he said another warning to the president on his handling of israels war in gaza. And the risk it poses for his chances at reelection. President biden even running a statement that this evening that is real as quote, not done enough to protect civilians and saying he is outraged and heartbroken over the deaths of aid workers from World Central Kitchen in israeli strike in gaza the president changing plans to host a dinner tonight to break the ramadan fast after pushback from guests who said it would be inappropriate while people are starving in gaza meanwhile, donald trump is hammering joe biden on immigration using incendiary language like quote, border, border, bloodbath, and threatening if he doesnt win. This could be the last election in america. Im here tonight to declare that joe bidens Border Bloodbath. Remember they used the name bloodbath. I was talking about something entirely different, but this is a Border Bloodbath ends the day. I take the oath of office. If we dont win this may be the last election our country ever has. And that could be thats where were going. Because joe biden is a threat to democracy. Hes the threat to Democracy Trump also dangling a Promise Statement next week on floridas sixweek abortion ban, which will be on the ballot again in the fall, voters aside and the state constitutional amendment that would protect the right to an abortion in florida. Now, its frankly more than fair to wonder why exactly its going to take him a week to come up with the state eight min when hes been crowing about the demise of roe v. Wade for almost two years. I mean, hes been taking credit for overturning it every chance he gets. Well, hes saying credit democrats are saying that he is responsible. Thats a point democrats arent letting anyone forget directly blaming trump for bands like the one in florida that President Biden says, quote, are putting health and lives of millions of women at risk. I want to bring in mega in hayes, former specialists if this into President Biden and former republican congressman joe walsh is also here. Welcome to you both. What a night. I mean, its hard to imagine we are still in the sort of called primary season nine. We have these two candidates its at this point, but the Third Party Candidate really seems to be uncommitted or uninstructed. Meghan to you first, this is a real problem for biden and the humanitarian crisis also getting worse. There was a strike on the aid workers just yesterday. And he is getting protested every event that he has. So how how does biden course correct. If at all look, i think that he definitely needs to take into account with these folks are saying its a huge problem for him this entire conflict is fraught with problems for the administration. Theres no question that there needs to be more humanitarian aid done in gaza. I know being with him when we were in poland and working with World Central Kitchen. This is a personal to him. He is friends with jose andres. We saw with the work they were doing firsthand when we were there its extremely devastating to have this attack happened and then for bibi to not referred nine to netanyahu, not to take responsibility in a real way or have any sort of remorse or feeling towards this is devastated if they ministration. What did you make of bidens response and reaction to that . Now im talking about how hes outrage and heartbroken that they have not done enough to protect civilians. I think to what megan said, laura, look, this is a bad issue for him. Why because his proisrael but this divides his base. The left is not proisrael. Most moderate democrat shower or so it divides his very voting coalition and laura, when he tries to play it cautiously down the middle on this issue, he pleases no one what he needs to do is stand in front of his base and say, im proisrael, im going the listened to your concerns, but laura, hes going to have to confront his left flank on this issue is saying is proisrael going to solve the problem of mine, his base, i dont i dont think so. I dont think i dont think that i think that uncommitted is a huge issue and i think that you need those people to turn out and you need these people to turn out in these Battleground States like michigan has a huge error population like you cant isolate all these folks. I do think it solves some of the issue, but i dont think it solves the problem completely. I mean, one of the questions people have is, are you uncommitted now, but ultimately going to vote for biden later on. Thats the key turnout, right . Because many people who were uncommitted now arent going to go for trump. Most well, and trumps got this problem. Well, what turned out, well turn out eventually in vote for it, just like i think most nikki haley voters are going to support trump and theoden day. Look this is an angry electorate. We are living in an angry populace moment trumps and evil demagogue. Why are people . Thinking about rfk junior . Because theyre looking for Something Different trump feeds. This with he inflames this anger with bad stuff. But joe biden doesnt recognize laura, how angry the populaces. Hes gotta get his arms around that. Well, if the population is that angry great. Does the inflammatory rhetoric of trump as relates to say, the border is that feeding the beast . I think i do think he recognizes how angry they are. I just im not sure that his his tenor and demeanor and his words are going to helping the cause, right . Like there are people are listening to trump and people are getting excited and by the incendiary language, and thats just not joe biden style. Thats not how hes going to run. He runs a much different, get more empathy and more compassion for folks. And it comes across when hes campaigning. So i think that it is a challenge for him to connect with folks that are more fired up and more, uh, more than thin near. But does the rhetoric make people have a visceral reaction such that they be more inclined to turn out oh, yes. And weirdly, again, everything trumps spouts is cruel and just bigoted bs and he did it again today, laura. But it doesnt hurt him even a lot of a lot of black voters and brown voters are concerned about crime in the border. It, even though trump lies about it he feeds into it. I agree with meghan bidens biden, but biden needs to address these issues headon. I mean, trump is talking about a woman by the name of ruby garcia, who was tragically killed also by an illegal emory. Listen to what he had to say on this issue. 11 days ago right here in kent county at 25yearold michigan woman named ruby garcia, whos become very wellknown, Named Beautiful Young woman. We savagely murdered by an illegal alien criminal. Now ruby is loved ones and community are left grieving for this incredible young woman. I spoke to some of her family well, on that point tonight, ruby garcia, his family, or assist her, said that no one from her family ever spoke to travelers. So youre not surprised by that . Oh god not at all. I mean, his his entire purpose, laura, is two dear the hell out of voters and hell lie to do it when you look at this issue. And theres so there has been so many people from say, the un and on where people have looked in, been very critical about the use of people in their tragedy for political gain. And there has been fierce critique from both sides against both parties, frankly is there a way to address and confront especially the issues of crime and the intersection of Immigration Policy without alienating both sides. I would hope so. I mean, thats what democracy is supposed to be built on. But i just have not seeing it with this election. I think look the border, they had a border bill that was bipartisan in and trump put a stop to it with his republicans on the house side. So you kind of wonder, you sit back and wonder like how are you now blaming President Biden for this when youre the one who and your supporters are the ones that didnt want to pass this through when they had a bipartisan bonus and its just, you just kinda sit back and think to yourself, like people who are traveling thousands of miles to cross the border for a hope of a better life, like we have a real problem here that we need to address, but not all people, not all immigrants are animals like he called them today like thats an incendiary statement thats just so to this. And so hateful that its just its kinda hard to understand whats happening. And i want to hear joe biden shade that i want to hear joe biden say that in front of real life people, instead of ignoring the issue. Well, heres what he is saying. Its not an issue where frankly there are people traveling thousands of miles, but its not for migratory purposes. Its because of Abortion Laws in this country in particular, here he is confronting what democrats believed to be a winning issue for them. Because for 54 years they were trying to get roe v. Wade terminated. And i did it and im proud to have done it in 2016, donald trump ran to overturn roe v. Wade. Now, in 2024, hes running to pass a national ban on a womans right to choose im running to make roe v. Wade the Law Of The Land again so they think that maybe florida might be into play now because of this sixweek abortion ban and itll be on the ballot in november. Is it just for thinking . No, it could be a look, this is the best issue the Democrat Crouch have and laura, my fellow republicans know this is their Achilles Heel what do you think . I hundred percent agree with you . I think its shown in the midterms and theres a bunch of states, just an alabama recently where the state delegate person one right after the ivf ruling, theres just this is a losing issue for republicans and i, its also a very important issue for not only women but menn as well. And it pulls really well. So im not understanding why the republicans are not understanding that this is not a winning issue for them, or why it will take a week for trump to have a position on this. I mean, i just had to say when you think about the amount of time i mean, for so long and then carnations about reproductive rights and about abortion. The week by week has been the crucial issue. And so if a week doesnt matter, if a week is nothing politically, and why is it so strict in terms of the reduction of rights . Meghan hayes, joe walsh. Thank you both so much. If you thought donald trump was staying on script tonight and focusing on the issues, well, listen to him comparing his legal troubles to those of one wait for it. Al capone. I got indicted more than Alfonso Capone scarface now, bad. He was you know, these i know Somebody Guys in the front row, the tough guys if you ever looked at Alfonso Capone, you wouldnt be tough at all . Youd be dead by the morning, most likely, i got indicted more than l fonts. Alphonse was a tough ban. They did a movie called scarface, check it out, even was have to eat, dont want to deal with it. Ive never heard them called alphonse. Im i dont know. Just saying that anyway, joining me now, norm eisen, he is a cnn legal analyst and the author of trying trump and a former white house ethics czar norm. Im so glad that youre here today. Im all for a movie reference. I happen to love the movie scarface. I wherever out, but shiino does frankly, i do love he makes a lot of comparisons for themselves. One of the things he continues to believe is that he is entirely persecuted and he blames judges and whether he saying hello to his little friend, the one he has now is recusal talk to me about the issue of recusal here, because the goal in trying to attack the judges daughter to me is all about him trying to get out of having that judge preside over the case its a little strange for a Law And Order candidate to embrace the memory of al capone. But its even stranger. Laura, to go back to the court when judge immer sean has already ruled that the activities of his Adult Daughter sure do not provide a basis for recusal he even went to the new york judicial Epics Authorities and he got a formal opinion and they said, if your daughter is not a party in the case if her business is not a party in the case, if shes not a witness in the case adult kids are allowed to have lives. So why is donald trump having lost this raising it again, pure politics. It is a losing legal issue. Now, many would look at them on a lean into your ethics chops here, which are extensive somewhat look at this issue and say, well, hold on a second if the fact that this is an Adult Daughter says it can be totally compartmentalize from the father, the judge, why is the same not true for say, a Clarence Thomas and his wife . Well, the my ethics experience it as being the ethics czar for barack obama and i can tell you that never once in his eight years in office that he compares himself to al capone. Thats kind of an Ethics Benchmark now, and thats a pretty high bar. But look at the difference between the Clarence Thomas situation where his wife, ginni, was a witness who testified to the january 6 committee. She was involved in the events she spoke to some of those who are being prosecuted, including mark meadows in Fulton County for their involvement in the events that culminated in january 6, that falls within this boundary that the new york ethics authorities pointed to. If a judge has a relative whos a witness, but laura and merge, sean is not a witness in the case, so i dont think were going to see donald trump say that Clarence Thomas, most recused from the Immunity Case that is about whether donald trump is immune from prosecution. So there is an element of hypocrisy here. And using the court to right Campaign Press releases that does not make judges happy one of the things that merge schein spoke about was that the motion contains a daisy chain of innuendo ive made a daisy chain. They were actually like dandelions, but thats neither here nor there. When you look at the idea, theres no facts, its just the political hyperbole. Hes obviously hoping that this is heard by those who might receive the information i e a jury there is an element of seeking to taint the jury pool and thats what hes struggling against. Thats part of what gag orders are about. The judge talked very explicitly in his ruling yesterday about the he intimidating effect that trumps behavior can have on juries. But i think the primary strategy there is trump wants a hung jury. There is very powerful evidence in this case. I right about that. And trying trump we looked at the data on almost ten thousands of these falsifying Business Records cases, hundreds of them felony ones resulted in incarceration that makes trump nervous. Whats his solution . He wants one juror, one pro trump juror who will hang that jury. So he is playing to that. And of course, his poem political audience, feeding their grievances with this constant drumbeat, finding something to complain about what the judge and even more, he doesnt want this trial to go forward on april 15 of jury selection, he would like this judge to not oversee this case, but just really quick, what is the standard that has to take place for a judge . Should recuse themselves. When does it become mandatory . Well, when a judge has an actual disqualifying conflict or an appearance of a conflict if his daughter were a witness in the case, if he had a financial interest in the case, those kinds as of things constitute a conflict. We are not remotely close to that here and this, judge is not going to disqualify himself and nobody else is going to disqualify him. Its a pr move by trump. Well, we will see what happens are my isnt always great here for you. The book coming out to trying trumbull really really interesting and timely read also a major Earthquake Rocking Taiwan tonight its the worst and 25 years. I mean, look at this. There was a live News Broadcast interrupted. The camera was shaking, debris was falling from the ceiling and buildings like this are on the verge of collapse weve got a live report for you next seven hours. Astronauts setting off on a scientific mission. They were doing great. Columbia, houston com check. 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A building left completely tilted, the shaking so bad debris began falling from the ceiling during this tv broadcast, what youll see what mount sinai good. Easy the large and alarming earthquake like you saw in that video there to have shaken taiwan. Now, what we know about this earthquake is that its epicenter was very close to what allen county in eastern taiwan. This is a very popular tourist destination. It is a rural part of taiwan on an actually where most of these earthquakes take place and taiwan. Now, we also know that this is the biggest earthquake in 25 years, the last one was back in 1999 when an earthquake of a magnitude of seven killed more than 2,400 people in taiwan. Now, for this specific earthquake that took place, this morning we havent heard any official reports about deaths so far, but the taiwanese government is reporting about injuries. Some people stuck in these homes and buildings. In fact, 26 buildings have been destroyed and collapsed. Were also hearing about roads being partially destroyed and more than 91,000 households without power. Now, in response to this natural disaster, the Taiwanese Defense ministry has dispatched military troops to assist with evacuation efforts. Now this is very common protocol. You see military troops work with local governments to try to get people to safety, to higher ground. Now, we also know that in collin county, all schools and work have been suspended for today because of these its constant aftershocks that weve been seeing. And the taiwanese government has warned that this could continue for the next three to four days. And let me tell you, laura, as someone who lives in a very seismically active country japan, these aftershocks can be just as terrifying as the initial earthquake because you never know when the shaking is going to stop. Laura hanako montgomery. Thank you for bringing us the very latest. Please keep us updated now, i want to turn to a small town in oklahoma tonight, sending frankly, a very big message voters in enid, giving the boot to a Council Member with White Supremacist ties his name is judd blevins and he was elected to the city council last year by just 36 votes and then his past began to get more and more attention. And you can see him here if that scene looks familiar, its probably because youve seen it before. Thats the 2017 unite the right it rally or neonazis and White Nationalists march through the streets of charlottesville, Virginia Judge says he was protesting the removal of confederate statues, but it doesnt end there the Monitoring Group called right wing watch, later reported he was a recruiter for a White Nationalist group. It says that he posted offensive messages like these in an online discussion group. Now, once all that began to spread more widely, it led to a push to then recall him from the council and now hes out. Listen to Cheryl Patterson in that recall as what judds about the accusations. Well maybe wishy washy is the way to describe it at best. Hes apologized at times, denying he is a White Nationalist, but hes also been defiant and has held his ground and being able to speak freely really he was on the brink of being censored last fall, but that sensor was postponed after the only black commissioner on the city council forgave him i want to do one thing before we quit thank you. Stand up do you love me . Yes, i do. As a brother in christ i love you too ill forgive you that, commissioner derwin norwood, he joins me now. Derwin, thank you so much for joining me. How are you this evening im doing great, laura, thank you for having me i appreciate it. Well. Im glad youre here. I want im well, thank you. And im glad that you are here. I want to get to that moment of forgiveness that frankly, i have been replaying in my mind even after seeing it. But first i do want to ask you about these Results Judd Blevins has been recalled officially. What is your reaction well, its a blessing to see him relieved ive gotten to know him a little bit more personally, than anyone else on the council. And it confident he shared things with me. And im aware of the fact that its bigger than judd blevins is a National Problem that we have had for a long time and their citizens and enough, there were brave enough to take it upon themselves to fight back against White Supremacy i feel sorry for judd you know, and the conversations that hes had with me privately i really know how he feels about certain situations and things that have happened that hes not going to share with everyone else so keep those conversations and im im intrigued by the trusting rapport that you have built. But what about those conversations has made you feel sorry for him . Just the fact that he got caught up. You know, he went to the military, came back to the United States and during the trump era . Im just going to tell the truth tonight he heard things that inspired him and made him feel that his race was in trouble and he needed to defend. And you know his heritage more than anything else. He felt the need to defend his heritage when you hear that, especially given his military service, you can imagine there are many members of the military who would hear that and think thats an to the protection of the values we hold so dear in spite of the history of, we know the experience of many black soldiers returning from world war ii and beyond. But let me ask you were you surprised to hear that his Military Experience . Was a catalyst yes absolutely i was you know, ive had many uncles. My father he served in the military himself, so ive never been in the military you know, theres things that happen in the military just like they do in the civilian world that we dont know anything about those experiences can change your perception you know, and they can have effects on, you shortterm and longterm. You ought to life is that was motivated you to forgive him well what, actually motivated me to forgive him was my upbringing mb pentecostal holiness church, which is the Church Of God In Christ i was trained that alsos belong to god. You know, i read it in gods word and been a man of god myself i felt like if i can speak about it or for each on it, i need to live it so i want it to be an example for the former commissioner. I want it to be his example when i read the life of a possible paul there was a great change that took place and i believe that god can change anyone if they want to be changed why no codec . Very well, many of my Family Members and florida are members of a Church Of God In Christ. And i have to ask you, when im looking at that moment the pace of that conversation had me wondering at first, were you were either of you aware he know that you are going to ask him that question about your his love for you at that time he did not. Neither did i really, Spirit Of God is moving. You dont have any control you know, and when those convictions come about, you just have to react and, you know, being prayerful and believing in fasting the power of the holy ghost. You dont know which way hes going to move yet. But when it happens, it happens. So i wanted got to get the glory in all of this let me ask you when you look at this and i have to wonder given the nature of your relationship that you have explained and you seem to gotten either closer with him, are understood him in different way . Do you think his ousting from this council is going to trigger him to revert to the beliefs he once had or might still have hopefully not because the way i look at it, laura, is the fight that hes an individual. He has a soul. I dont care about his ignaty has race or anything what i care about is this, so i want to see true change and if i can lead that individual that can help him along the way im not taking it personal i feel like i have a mission to do and thats to help convert individuals who have been deceived have you spoken to him tonight since he was ousted no, maam. I spoke to him last friday and i explained to him that you know, i have talking to cnn and i did an interview with him and my fathers church, Westside Church of god in christ. And he thanked me and he said derwin, i respect you and ive told him i said judd. When i watched you up on that stage i felt sorry for you you were struggling. You were really going through. And when i seen his mother she came up to me and she introduced herself to me it hit me because i could see the pain in her eyes. And he told me he said, youre absolutely right this is really hurting my mother there are humans. We all make mistakes what did you understand to be hurting her . The admission from her son or the attention that was being provided i believe all of the above. I believe that when i looked at her no, no, mother wants to see her house, so no. You certainly do not have any mother would know derwin norwood. Thank you so much thank you, laura, for having me. God bless you. Thank you. Well, theres a ruling by florida is supreme court. Its now presenting women with a very stark choice. Shall we say . Some may have to drive 17 hours to seek abortionrelated services. 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You may wonder why im even highlighting illinois. Its nearly 1,000 miles away from florida. Well, one reproductive care clinic in that midwestern state is bracing for an uptick and out of state date patients in the coming weeks, drawing it out with a personal perspective, Executive Administrator of alamo womens clinic at illinois, andrea diegos. Thank you so much for joining us right now. And drea, before the why why is illinois pairing for whats happening in florida . Why are you and what do you preparing to do . Showing thanks for having me. So weve seen since dobbs patients from every surrounding band state make the journey of great distances for care. And because illinois is this island of access to abortion care, i have no doubt that floridians will be faced to do the same thing youve been helping women from other states where abortion has been banned or restricted. Lets be taking a toll on them personally to travel to this island of access, as you describe it . What are they telling you absolutely. I think more than anything, when patients make it to our doorstep, theyre exhausted. Theyre exhausted from their travel. Theyve left work and just gotten on the road and started driving and sleep a few hours before are there are in the morning. Ive had patients tell me theyve driven all night and slept in the parking lot and waited for us to open in the morning so the journey is never cease to amaze me what patients are overcoming to make it to our doorsteps. So a pure exhaustion i think is number one one and then by the end of the day when after theyve had services, it more than anything, its relief relief that they made it relief that somebody took care of them, that they got the services they needed and they can return safely home. Theres the emotional and physical toll and aspects of this and the journey, but theres also the financial toll how are these women able to pay for their Health Care Plus the cost of travel, knowing that increasingly so there is an economic disparity of access absolutely. These bands just affect women of color, women who are of lower socioeconomic statuses. And the majority of our patients, i would say 75 to 80 of our patients received some im sort of funding whether it be from a National Fund or state specific to their homestate. We connect with multiple organizations to help make cost less burdensome really truly telling when i think about the map we were showing, the idea of 17 hours drive and island of access and illinois and how other states are preparing to except the influx of people who most assuredly, will come and drag i egos. Thank you so much for joining thank you. 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I dont agree with that because recently the socalled heat has felt like Hate Criticism is turned into racism, Game Commentary is turned into Death Threats and often, its anonymous people were hiding behind their screens on social media heres what 21 yearold College Basketball Phenom Angel Reese and her teammates had to say and a Postgame Presser Last Night ive been through so much. Ive seen so much. Ive been attacked so many times Death Threats. Ive been sexualized. Ive been threatened is no, im still people speak hate into her life ive never seen people wish bad things on someone as much as her. The media yeol, how they like to twist and color but a villain and all of that, yeah, i dont know angel bro and im just happy that i get to play with her the hague has become such an epidemic that even the Surgeon General of the United States met with the nc, that belay Mental Health Advisory Group to talk about the effects of social media. A young peoples Mental Health, lots of talk about with Nancy Lieberman, shes the head coach of team power and the big three league. The first woman had coach of a mens professional team in any sport. It olympian, a twotime Basketball Hall of famer, a player coach, otherwise known as lady magic, at halloffamer to boot nancy, so nice to see you, how you doing i am wonderful. So great to see you again. Im glad that youre here, although i have got to wonder what you have thought seeing the evolution of the game in the sense of the role that media and social media is playing on. And whats happening, what youve heard, what angel reese had to say about being a human . In the toll its taken on her. What would you say to her . And this moment by whats the game and i watched her reaction in the press conference. And as somebody whos in the sisterhood of the sport of all sports, to see this young lady that despondent at the press conference, nothing because it helps you played by the way, just 17 points, 20 rebounds, and she is a wizard and a star but for help people have treated her shame on you. You know, muhammad ali, mike, my friend, my hero told me a long time ago that reddish religion in the world is love and kindness show this woman some loving kindness and dont go after her because your keyboard wizard and you hide if if you got to Say Something that somebody stand up, be seen, because all youre gonna do is people want to say youre a racist, youre wrong and the media has gotten desensitize and how they talk about us as players, as coaches, as women. And its unacceptable. And honestly its im so glad youve mentioned mom and i leave because he sometimes will point to him and say, you know, the smack talk is part of it, you know, his poetic lyricism when he did it was, its just, this is just the evolution of that this feels and is distinct from what that was. And im so glad youve mentioned how its been directed that women in particular, why do you think its become so increasingly talks as it relates to women in particular lets lets be realistic. Every store that youve known in history, bob take sports every time they get to the top, somebody has now tried to cut you down and put you in your place. So, you know, angel reese get to a certain place, wins the national championship. Shes beautiful, she has an opinion and now everybody wants to cut her down and attack her. Shed never done anything wrong. Its just 21 years old. She used to be living lives. She should be happy shes got a Great Program at lsu. Shes got great mentors and mulkey and check and if i were around her arm around her as a friend and say dont listen sometimes you just have to have your and not listen to people those are the people who have never accomplished anything in life and so, so easy for them to be critics of people who have achieved. And theres jealousy. Israel i always say, i dont take criticism people i would not seek advice from but im grown compared to a 21 yearold and thinking about what she enduring as a college student. But this, is a different sport and the way, and then College Players now are able to have endorsements, are able to have brand deals. Does that make a difference to you at all in terms of the increasingly expansive Public Profile that they have . For themselves is it does it some way change how they ought to be treated no, i dont think he changes. Its just this is the new day and age. This is it. You know, i mean, as warren buffett, how much money did he make in The 60s And 70s and how much money does he made in 2024 i mean, this is called growth. Theres a look i played for free on the olympic team. I played for free when we went to backtoback championships, National Championships at old dominion university. Its okay we have to celebrate today the athletes, the business people, the women of people of success, even men we shouldnt tolerate them. We should applaud them and celebrate them, that they have more than we did and you should just organically be happy for them and im thrilled for this generation and what theyre doing. Theyre creating history. We havent the Jackie Robinson and a lot of people play sports some people just changed sports and make History History has i dont want you im sorry. Nancy finished a point. Know whats happening right here in front of i was going to say im that brady notion, just thinking about the ratings. I mean, how many people are watching this is transformative as well. I learned that the game between lsu and i will last night more than 12 Million People watched the game. Thats even more than last years nba finals, by the way. And these College Players, theyre thrown into this, this level of fame right now is the sport ready for this level of attention . Is it ready for this evolution of the fan viewership two are we ever ready . Are we ever ready for greatness . Know it just happens upon us. The Caitlin Clarks of the world on the page backers, the reeses, theres a lot of players who are generational during the wnba in asia wilson, people like that. And were champions i admire dawn staley and, you know, i also admire people who respect women and the way you change the landscape is you do what icecube did. You make a substantial offered to a woman and you say, we appreciate you. We want you and thats not to say that she cant play in the wnba im w and an mba family. But its certainly pushes you to be better and raise the stakes players really have a lot of the they have a lot of the power right now, right . No, the power you dont know, you have and they know they have it right now. And why shouldnt they this is business. Just like everybody else. Everybody has a Negotiating Point so i think its great for kaitlan to get that offer which she take it because theres been some pushback on that offer. Its a substantial one. There were some pushback i talked to carry champion last week and she seem to have the impression that look, this is she doesnt need to play with men to prove her worth. Is that how you see it well, as somebody who needed to play against menn to know her worth. And i love carried by the way but i didnt have a league in my prime. So i had to play for pat riley and the los angeles lakers. And suddenly i had to play for the jazz. And frankly in their summer league, i had to play two years in the United States basketball league, which is the equivalent of the nba g league. Trust me, i know what its like to get hit on a screen via 280 pounds the or kick up a charge on karl malone. It doesnt feel good. Its not optimal, but it is doable because think about it. They might be bigger, stronger, faster, and jump higher but you dont know our heart. You dont know our desire. Theres eq and iq and she can pass the hell out of basketball. So wherever she chooses to play, lsu went to the big three then she could also play in the wnba. Its for Indiana Coupa saying we want you to play both. Its its eight games in the w. But when enhance her profile should be the only other woman to play an immensely round that changed my life to be quite honest financially attains my life. It took me from being a great player and Womens Basketball to being a leak in the opportunity that ive had to play against menn know well, lets say canine clark, it sounds like Nancy Lieberman wants to be your coach for the big three. Im going to put a plugin. I kinda wanted to say it now, i just talking to you. Nancy is always so great to hear your perspective. Its a unique one and im so glad you came. Thank you. Thank you for being a great champion. A us. Appreciate you thank you all so much for watching our covers continues we hear nothing. A Space Shuttle accident. Its usually not one thing. Its a series of events is that part of the wing coming apart . Space shuttle columbia . Yeah. The final flight premieres sunday at nine on cn n get. Into the rhythm of the eyelids and delight the caribbeans state of mind. Visit sandals. 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