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The legal tapper starts right now donald trump might get yet another delay in yet another one of his many criminal trials, the lead starts right now moments ago, the prosecutor in the new york Hush Money Case said hed be okay with it. 30 day delay. This as the former president spent the day in the florida courtroom, his lawyers arguing broad leeway under the president ial records act as a reason to throw out the case. The judge in that case expressing skepticism will explain all of it to you coming up in rodgers response, nfl quarterback Aaron Rodgers with a new post on twitter today. Kind of alluding to the Exclusive Reporting we broke here on the lead yesterday, that he had privately shared with the least two people we know of deranged Conspiracy Theories about the 2012 Sandy Hook School shooting not being real plus space success with a major mishap, the massive Spacex Starship rocket. Thats part of nasas plans to get back to the moon. While that goes farther and faster than ever before we get the spacecraft is now lost welcome to the lead object app, or we got a lot of legal news as for you relating to donald trump and a boil, explain it to you as clearly as possible because i know its tough to keep all of these cases apart. Well start with Breaking News in our lawn justice lead. The Manhattan District Attorney just said hes not opposed to a delay of up to 30 days. This is in trumps hush money file. This is according to a new court filing, breaking this afternoon. Now, this is the case that involves trumps alleged payment to Adult Film Star and director Stormy Daniels in an attempt to keep her quiet about their alleged affair. This is right before the 2016 election. Now, this trial was supposed to start in less than two weeks on march 25th. So it looks like it will start later than that thats number one. Number two, we are also following a major hearing and trumps maralago classified documents, case again, i know its tough to keep all these straight, but remember, this is the case where donald trump stands accused of taking highly sensitive classified documents to maralago after leaving the white house, after which the National Archives repeatedly asked trump to return the documents. Requests he ignored, and trump continued to distort the documents in unsecured locations throughout the maralago property, including these famous photos youve seen of the box is being stored rather insecurely in bathrooms and ballrooms and more todays big development, trumps attorneys asked the judge to delay that case or even throw it out altogether, and trumps team arguing two things. One, that the president ial records act was not clear enough so trump did not know he was breaking the law when he brought the documents to maralago to arguing that these were his personal records. He had a right to keep Special Counsel jack smiths Team Fighting back saying, come on from clearly knew the importance of some of the classified documents he had pointing to a meeting trump had at his bedminster, new jersey club in 2021. Theres a recording of this meeting in it. He describes certain documents as classified and he did not seem to think that they were personal now, thats 1. 2 now, we turn 23. We are also awaiting a major ruling that could come at any moment in Fulton County, georgia, this has to do with the case against donald trump for trying to steal the georgia electoral votes. Judge scott mcafee is any minutes at to decide whether District Attorney fani willis, who is prosecuting trump should be removed from overseeing trumps georgia elections case. This is over claims from the trump team that fani willis financially benefited from a relationship she had with one of her top prosecutors. All right . Got it. All. Lets start with Cnns Katelyn Polantz outside the courthouse in fort pierce, florida. Thats where the classified documents, cases, kaitlan, judge cannon seem pretty skeptical of the trump teams arguments today. She did jake and what the trump team is trying to do here in florida in this federal case about Classified Records is the same thing. Theyre trying to do every everywhere else. Theyre either trying to get the case dismissed or to make things take a really long time until everyones set to go to trial today. They spent five hours in the courtroom in arguments before judge cannon, where she didnt rule, but she did express some skepticism to these arguments trump is making to have his case dismissed on the ground. Whos that these were his purpose personal papers that he wanted to take out of the white house and that the law around National Defense secrets is a little too big for him to have known he shouldnt have taken them out of the white house and to maralago, judge cannon said it would be an extraordinary step for her to dismiss the case on these grounds, and it would be difficult to see her doing that at this juncture, but hes asked by my count nine different ways to have this case dismissed. This was arguments for just two of those nine topics or approaches his team has made. So we now wait for judge cannon to rule. She is very likely to write something potentially lengthy about the president ial records act, about the law in this case. And how it is charged against donald trump. She says, itll be coming promptly, but we still dont even have a trial date. The last time we were here two weeks ago. That was what they were talking about then and still nothing on the books. So im becoming a connoisseur these donald trump courtroom sketches. If we couldnt put the one up of him glaring, looking toward there. Thats it. Its good to pretty its a pretty good one. I like the shading. Its not cartoony, kind of captures him. He was inside the courtroom today. We see these images. What was his behavior like . Well take the glower and donald trump that you saw in the arraignments that type of criminal defendant in that posture of the former president. Thats not what its like now hes been in judge cannons courtroom for hours at a time. And so you can tell that he is getting much more comfortable sitting there at the difference Defense Table from our producers and reporters inside the court who were able to watch every moment of this. He spent some time chatting with his attorney. He had reactions to some of the arguments that people were making little facial expressions, things like that. One thing in this case that is really interesting to watch is what people refer to trump in the courtroom. Theres not any interaction with him directly in de like this where its about legal arguments. And so judge cannon, throughout the day was referring to him as the defendant. Whereas his own lawyers are referring to him as the president all right. Katelyn polantz and florida, thanks so much with us now, cnn chief Legal Affairs correspondent paula reid, an cnn senior legal analyst. Elie honig, an former Principal Deputy assistant attorney general tom dupree. Thanks to one and all for being here. And lets start, i think with judge cannon, right. That seemed the most interesting. What do you think she is thinking when it comes to possibly throwing out this case . Its pretty clear that shes not going to throw out this case, but we knew that before todays hearing because this argument that this should be thrown out, its undercut by former president trumps own statements. Remember hes had this evolving explanation for how you should be allowed to have these classified documents. He had a standing order. He declassified them with his mind. Hes also on tape, a central piece of evidence in this case, acknowledging that he couldnt declassify them when hes no longer president and he shouldnt have that. He knew he had secrets but even though hes unlikely to win on the merits, the fact that she allowed arguments here took a whole day to hear this out, which he could have just dispense with this on paper. That is significant because every day every filing every motion helps delay this and we know that is the crux and we said it 100 times of the Trump Defense strategy. So she may have animal loss in this battle, but in some ways shes helping win the war. So there was an argument, tom, thats kind of like the Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer argument, which is just like im just a humble caveman. I dont understand your president ial records act, right . I mean, like he was so confused. Its written so vaguely, is there anything . In to that in my opinion, no, jake, look, the fact is is that this law and the other law, the Espionage Act and its charged under have been on the books for a long time. And although its not impossible for a federal judge to basically invalidate a statute on the theory that it is too vague to be enforced, that happens very, very rarely. I cannot imagine her doing that here, particularly because the president , i mean, look, hes not a lawyer, but hes a sophisticated person. He worked in the white house. Obviously hes well aware of the ways the federal government, and i just dont think its gonna be plausible to the judge for him to say i had no idea that what i was doing could possibly be deemed illegal. Now an interesting moment today, le trumps team today argued that robert hur or the Special Counsel who investigate joe biden bidens mishandling of classified information, that report helps them. How so and do buy it . Yeah. So let me translate this over into the legal world. Im not buying the argument. Let me right up front. The argument is something called selective prosecution, where a defendant can raise a defense. Its very, very rare to succeed get on this. I would say nationwide this is xx rate is close to zero on this. But if you can show Somebody Else did essentially the same thing. I did. That person was not prosecuted and i am being prosecuted and its for a bad reason. You can get a case thrown out and Donald Trumps lawyers, of course, are saying, well, look at the hur report, both guys knowingly he to some extent retained classified documents. Bidens not charge. I am charged, hence, selective prosecution. But the response from prosecutors and i think the better argument is, there are very big differences here. This is not similar enough to warrant dismissal starting with the fact that trump obstructed biden mostly cooperated different quantities of documents thats different conduct overall. So i think the judge is going to reject that argument, but i will say the hurt report does give trumps team some basis to make that argument. I dont think it will succeed, although we should note also that the hur report for all the handwringing democrats are doing about how he describes biden is aged, et cetera. Theres also a whole section where he talks about what trump did is so much worse. And heres why its almost as if robert hur was anticipating that argument. I mean, against almost as if it right, almost as if lets talk about the decision we just heard this Bombshell Filing in the manhattan da hushmoney case against trump. This is about trump Hiding Payments to Stormy Daniels to hide their alleged affair before the election of 2016 . The trial was set to start in two weeks. We all scheduled our Spring Breaks around it. Yes. And now, the District Attorneys open to a delay. Yeah. So the defense had asked for a 90 day delayed it, go through some discovery, and the surprise was that the prosecutor said they wouldnt be opposed to a 30 day delay. Now itll be up to the judge. So this judge could come back can say 30 days, 45 days out. Well give you 90 days. But whats astonishing to me, jake is this is the one case that was on the calendar. The other three criminal prosecutions are in limbo and even if he delays it, 45 days, lets say theres nothing that would require me to say absolutely. This will go you can always come back and delay it again every week, every filing, every little delay makes it possible. This may not go before the election. So this was a real shocker. So i said the other day that a lot of legal experts consider this the weakest of the prosecutions and i think some people in the Da Bragged Office objected to that. What whats your take on this . Decision and whats your take on how strong a case this. So it definitely is the least serious conduct of the four. I mean, two of the other ones relate to the effort to steal the 2020 election. And the third relates to classified documents. So i dont think theres any question this is the least serious that said its still a serious allegation. It might be the only one that could realistically go to trial before the election. And it is a virtual certainty now, now that both parties, when the defendant says we need 90 more days and the prosecutors even say we agree at least 30. Its going to get moved at least 30 days. And then its all sort of a Slippery Slope downhill. I mean, it gets moved 30 think about it like when if you have an air a flight on an airline, it gets delayed 20 minutes, then it gets the late and other 45 minutes, right weve all been there. Right. Are calling other airlines . Exactly. And its incremental and its not all at once. It just slides and it slides again and it slides again. And next thing you know, its a four hour delay. I feels like were going down that path even with this manhattan da, which seemed like the most likely. All right. So District Attorney bragg, i hope that i was a better answer than my going to get taxed its going to give were both going to get him well, like either way im not a lawyer. Leas what do you make of the sliding of this case . I mean, this was the one that was supposed to go to trial before the election. It was, but the fact that its getting bumped doesnt surprise me at all. Trial its are notoriously fluid. Thats true for civil cases. Thats true for criminal prosecutions. And it doesnt surprise me especially just given the gravity of whats at Stake Carrying for goodness sake, a former president the United States is going on trial. And i think both the prosecutors and the judge are going to take the extra step, go the extra mile to ensure that he has ample time to prepare his defense. Thats what caused the delay. Play today, the prosecutors acknowledged that the former president had gotten more documents and they wanted to play it safe. They didnt want to create the possibility of reversible error on appeal. So they agreed to give the former president s sufficient time to look at these new documents and formulate his defense. So i do think its surprising, but in The Grand Scheme of things, this does happen pretty often. North carolina four Corner Office once you know what im saying. All right. Well, not the clock. Elie honig, tom dupree. Thanks so much. Were also standing by for a judges decision and Fulton County, georgia decision that will determine whether District Attorney fani willis can stay on the Election Subversion Case that she brought against donald trump. 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Mesothelioma is really all we do. 808724901 continuing with our Law And Justice lead, as we noted in the last block at any minute, we could hear whether Fulton County District Attorney, fani willis will be disqualified by the judge from prosecuting the Election Subversion Case against donald trump in more than a dozen of trumps allies in georgia. Remember, willis had a personal relationship with for prosecutor nathan wade that is not disputed. And nathan wade, she hired and nathan wade has never tried to case this big and its life before. Now, trumps legal team is arguing that willis financially benefited by hiring wade to lead the case. They want all the charges against donald trump dismissed cnns Nick Valencia is outside the courthouse in atlanta. Nic the decision is solely in the hands of judge mcafee. What what will happen if the case what will happen to the case if willis is disqualified . Well, jake, it would be devastating. And will almost guarantee that there would be no trial before the start of the november election. But what would happen is it would be handed over to ninemember panel prosecuting Attorneys Council and executive director pete skandalakis. And it would be up to them to find a replacement for willis if she is disqualified, and that comes with its own unique challenges. Theres not only politics at play, but also safety issues. And weve heard repeatedly that willis had to change basically how she moved in her life and anyone who ticked takes the case over would be presented with likely the same issues. Jake, even if District Attorney willis is not disqualified from the case, nick, as she could be out of a job. Shes up for election. She might she could lose to her primary challenger on may 21, how serious is the challenge to her position as of now . And could that impact the Election Subversion Case . Well, i spoke too, Progressive Democrat christian wise smith, thats the Democratic Chalian once youre and he basically saying that hes sort of dipping his toes in the water is at this point he wants to wait to see what happens with the decision about are disqualification before he launches a fullfledged Campaign Kane and last time he ran in 2020, he came in third behind fani willis and former da paul howard. Meanwhile, her republican challenger, courtney kramer, shes a longshot and has a very very, very low likelihood of beating willis in a primary. Remember, were really at the beginning of this process. This case. Theres no trial yet set in this case. And if there is a trial set, if and when that happens prosecutors say that this likely could take at least six months jake, Nick Valencia, and hot lana. Thank you so much. 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Giving millions of fans, like my dad and me, new ways of catching up on their favorite sport. Is the easiest way to reduce sugar ill go. Were on the massachusetts coast. This sienna with our worldly and its a sad, sad story. This week we brought you the tragic news of the murder of a dual american israeli citizens, one whom wed profiled many times here on the lead. He had been thought to have been a hostage held by Hamas Terrorists and gaza. But on tuesday of this week, Israel Defense forces reported that itay chen was actually killed by hamas on october 7. And then they took his body into gaza. Itay had been serving with the idf near the gaza border. He was just 19 years old at the time of his murder. He was the second of three sons of former boy scout, a fierce basketball player. He loved hiking good food, listening to music is family hold out, hope that he was still alive for the last five months and joining us now are huggies and ruby fan, his parents, whom this is their fourth or fifth time on the show. And im so sorry, is under these circumstances ruby in honeyed i i i dont know what to say. I know words cant offer any constellation how are you holding up yeah. On monday, we got notified that looked in the west possible outcome from our perspective became a reality but five months, weve had hope that the fact that there was no negative signal on a ti was hopefully a positive signal and unfortunately, we found out from the intelligence, both from the us side and from the israeli side that ive been working closely with one another, that he was killed on october 7 and the last five months, ive been basically psychological warfare that hamas, i said, ive been doing my not communicating. That he tai actually was killed. And it was taken not alive to gaza well, god knows what, just for the sake of causing more torture and using them as a pawn. Now, for some type of Negotiation Tactics that they have twisted, pretty twisted. And for months you to ive, been urging President Biden to get the remaining american hostages out of gaza. You just spoke with President Biden, tell tell us about that conversation . I like to acknowledge the fat that we havent lived in the us for a while. But the way that the us administration, the biden administration, but also senate fun built side of the aisles specifically, seven live germany on stem, lindsey, them have adopted us anytime and have wanted just the best outcome possible is something that is not taken as face value when we truly appreciate it, weve gotten calls the last 18 hours from the president himself, the Vice President mr. Jake sullivan. But mega the cost they ill set at Secretary Of State as well as from the cia, all of them wanted to show that condolences. The further than himself when we met in middecember, we kinda talked about moms and i had a sentence i think as i needed with the president what i said i thank god each day that my mom passed away and is not living this and the president has a unique relationship. Lets his mom as well, had a unique collage out with his mom moms, and how they impact us and i think he eat them is the fact that i dont have a Living Pallets anymore. And the fact that he took the time to talk to us like a dad will talk to his son that got it possible message possible and just talking about how he dealt with that message that he got many, many years ago when he had his personal loss . Yeah. And how to look forward. And how to think of how to put the pieces back together and coupon looking at the future and sign and find some ways to make some sense out of it and keep on going. He ended the call with us by giving him giving us his plus the null phone way said, look guys, we just need to talk yeah, i need to hear somebody out if you just need someone to listen dont hesitate. And i dont think that that any Global Leader whatever said that to us and being able to be with us not just talking, but actually feeling and like igniting the fact that we lost the most precious thing possible. Yeah, it is something that we will never forget. Emily le related to the positives that when we met last time he died was a hostage but i also reminded and even today, as we speak he tai still hostage at are citizens out of 134 hostages and 60 days, you cant even have a funeral in jewish law, youre supposed to barrier luck on the next yeah. So once wake him back. Its kinda like a statement for the view is that when someone is this and did jewish tradition, you have what is called a shiba. Yeah. Where are you have a funeral and youd have a week to well youll loved one we, even though by having the nullification, we can have a sheva, which is virtual. But we decided that we will not how the sheba until you tie this back with us. Yeah. Yeah yeah. We have a place to one. Its the love job is not done. Knocked to the israeli Prime Minister who has the most responsibility to get the tie back home. Yeah, as well as nuanced as well as all the International Entities that have been on this qatar and ldl does that can influence hamas to stop . This madness and stop the humanitarian crisis that is in gaza. Yeah. Does of people also suffering and the simple question to ask, any palestinian guilty elected government, which is hamas, that you voted for . Tell them to stop the fighting. Give us the hostages lets get a deal done and move on to a better future. Its i mean, youre in a shock period and a grief period that you may never fully leave. As i was telling you before, one of my best friends lost is 18 yearold son to cancer two years ago and theres no getting over it. Theres no one day you wake up and youre better. Theres just it just is what it is. Theres living with the los learning how to live with the loss. But i do want to end with a memory of itay and huggy. If you could how how do you want etype to be remembered . Now if days happy boy always smiling, we just got many visitors. Proof since tuesday since everyone find out about this terrible news about the tie and so many friends who came and told us stories about him he wasnt yeah, how hes funny. And then he loves he loves to have everyone everyone came could tell tell me a very unique story about the tie and our he helped him and how he making laugh. And now we they will always, always remember him nowhere is a beautiful voice and they you did for my ala glass. So its folic that it was empty. And we said, okay, we will buy a new one. And then our later and they knocked on our door on the terrible news and, you know, i didnt unpack since we came back monday no, we cannot do anything. Just ethan cry. Im so sorry. So yeah, one last is empty, but the job is not done. When you take thinking back home, rabih and huggies, im so sorry. And theres nothing i can say except me anytime highest memory be a blessing and please stay in touch and please reach out to other people who have gone through and are going through similar things because i know from my Friends Sterile and lana, i know that groups like that can be of great comfort and so please please do that and stay in touch with us also. Thank you thank you. Today thanks. Alone. Socalled president ial elections are just getting underway in russia, were Gonna Go Live To Moscow and x plus a former Chief Of Staff for Alexey Navalny was brutally attacked this week with a hammer and tear gas. 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Matthew, there are three kremlin approved candidates on the ballot to challenge putin, but theyre not really considered much of a challenge at all, right . No sense of public recognition. They dont even get into the double digits. I mean, one of thems a hard line communist who has a vision of returning russia to its sort of glorious soviet past thats, not a vision, by the way, that shared by most russians theres a nationalist who i spoke to. I step tim, during one of his campaign events, events, and he told me he was aiming to come second in the president ial race, not first, that which is extraordinary, and then the third candidate is this figure who independent Election Monitors say is doing its utmost to try and make sure he doesnt get any undue attention. You dealing with candidates the dont want to win this election. This is really just a process for the reappointment. If you like, of Vladimir Putin for another sixyear term. But millions of people across russia will be voting in these elections over the course of next few days. Joke and as this election happens, obviously, russias military operation, as they call it, and ukraine rages on. Ukraine has recently stepped up Drone Attacks in russian territory today, the Russian Defense ministry claimed to have fought back what theyre calling Sabotage Groups in the Belgorod Region yeah. Thats the region right next to the ukrainian border. There are a few other regions as well, which have been subject not just to Drone Attacks from across the border, but crossborder raids by a Paramilitary Groups, russian Paramilitary Groups that are based in ukraine coming across the border, the antikremlin trying to take Back Territory or take and seize control of territory inside of rush, thats been going on for some months, but its been really stepped up over the course of the past couple of days, the russian authorities insist theyve killed large numbers of these, these, these individuals, these fighters and that no russian territory is under their control, but nevertheless, its a real kind of slap in the face for the kremlin, which is trying to show its population that has control over this conflict and can protect them from the war Matthew Chance in moscow. Thank you so much. Appreciate it. Rushes socalled election comes just a few days after Alexey Navalnys former Chief Of Staff, Leonid Volkov was brutally attacked outside his home in lithuania. And the volume Spokesman Says volkov was in his car tuesday when someone broke the window, sprayed tear gas into his eyes and began beating him with a Hammer Volkov had served as chairman of navalnys Anticorruption Foundation until last year. And Cnns Fred Pleitgen joins us now for more on the story from berlin and fred, lithuanian officials today offered a new assessment on the attack they put the blame on russia yeah, they certainly did that just actually reread that report by those lithuanian officials, jake and they not only blame russia, they say that this bears a hallmark of Russian Special services. Obviously, russian intelligence services, and they believe that the russians probably recruited someone to a conduct this attack against Leonid Volkov welcome again, the former Chief Of Staff of alekseys Anticorruption Foundation. It was interesting because there was another lithuanian official came out there and called this an act of political terrorism. Unlike anything that lithuania had seen before. And he also said that he believed that this was conducted what he called a very professional way, obviously, going back to this possibly being the work of special services. The us also saying they are very concerned about the spokesman for the National Security council coming out today and saying they dont really have much in the way of facts to add to all of this, but they also say that this does show the threats and the dangerous for people in Russian Civil Society who speak up against the kremlin. The kremlin itself, jake also asked about this today on a Conference Call saying they refused to comment at all on any of this because all this took place in lithuania Leonid Volkov, he came out already yesterday and so that he was very happy, quite frankly, to survive this attack. Some of the photos of the aftermath truly are pretty grim there. He said he was very lucky that that person what tack them with a hammer, didnt break his leg, but it certainly seems he has some severe bruises on his leg. He also says he has a broken arm, however, Leonid Volkov, just like the Anticorruption Foundation, the other members of its say they are not going to stop their political work. Jake Fred Pleitgen in berlin, germany. Thanks so much. Coming up. We always hear about spacecraft making a quote, fiery reentry into earths atmosphere. 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So they managed to send back live pictures of its firing remains refund space. It was he spent time in school awhile in the end, the spacecraft lost all communications and likely broken heart, but no people want or dan as the saying goes, this was well, your cnns Kristin Fisher is here to wrap it all up for us, all, all in all a whole lot of things. We should note went right today yes. Farmers what went right then went wrong and the stuff that went right and wrong, we got to watch it all play out live in that Spectacular Hd footage that plasma on entry. Ive never seen anything like it. I dont think anybody has ever seen anything quite like that. They were able to do it because they had starlink terminals onboard starship and so some of the things that went right, starship reached orbital velocity or orbital speed that was the primary goal of this third test flight. They were also able to get starship to fly for about 49 minutes, much farther and faster than any other flight tests that starship has flown. And then of course, it was a successful launch. It made it away from the launchpad. There was a successful stage separation. I mean, all in all spacex is calling this a success, but its not just spacex, its nasa two and blue origin, one of spacexs primary competitors. Whats next . Both in short and longterm . Shortterm, spacex needs another test slight and they have for starships that they are working on right now and they say that theyre in varying phases of being ready to fly. So they need to do more flight tests and quickly they need the faa to license those launches and those flight tests. But then in the long term, this is the rocket that spacex wants to use to land the first humans on mars to eventually colonize mars. But first, they need to use it to land nasa astronauts on the surface of the moon for the First Time Since the apollo program, starship is the centerpiece of the artemis program. And so thats why today, you had so many people at nasa watching this one so closely and the administrator calling it a success, very, very cool. Kristin fisher, thanks so much. Thanks. Lets talk about where the Us Space Program stands with miles obrien. Miles so great to see you starship and its booster are the most powerful rocket ever launched. A test flight in april of last year ended with an explosion on the way up. And the november test also ended with explosions. Do you agree with nasa administrator nelson, who says todays task is clearly a success well, steady progress, right . Jake, you test, you might fail a little, but every time you fail, you learn a lot. So that idea, that term failure is not an option, is not act here the approach that spacex has taken over the years and this today after you, its 22nd anniversary, is test a lot, fail a lot learned a lot, and thats what were seeing here. And it got to orbital speeds it didnt quite meet the full mission profile. They would have liked to have seen It Splashdown in the ocean intact but there were a lot of things that they learned and presumably that next slide and they got four more of these waiting to fly already. That next one we might get a little further todays reentry picture is were just spectacular. Tell us more. Lets put them up there and tell us more about what were seeing thats plasma jake and a little bit of physics for you to read as an aircraft comes in, it compresses molecules and it turns those molecules, they capacitors them so much that the electrons become breed, which is essentially electricity. So those are electrified molecules that you are seeing there and that plasma is something we know about often causes Radio Blackouts between spacecraft and the earth but in the case of starlink, apparently not. And so we got a chance to see it like weve never seen it before. The spacecraft apparently broke up during reentry, but spacex has successfully landed the starship before we were pictures from an earlier test. And thats important because starship wont be, you using runways to land like the Space Shuttle did, and might even land on the moon yeah, its a key part of the moon mission, artemis three, which is now scheduled for late 2026, but dont put too much money on that right now. The idea is to land at the astronauts modified version of starship. And youve got to have powered descent all the way down. And thats an important thing to learn. They havent done it from the tremendous speeds and altitudes which they attained today. But thats forward work. There is plans right now for a crewed mission this summer all right. All Civilian Crew Led by the person who founded shift four payments, jared, isaac, min, and some engineers from the spacex team. So it could be pretty soon before people are on board that rocket when do you think were going to actually see American Astra Astronauts on the moon again well, as they say, september 26 is official, but this particular piece of the puzzle, the starship might be the one that could delay things a little bit. Its going to take a lot of work to get to the point from what you saw today to the point where we have a modified version that is capable of landing. Nasa astronauts safely on the moon, but its not a good idea to bet against elon musk in the space business. He has a way of delivering on promises and hes got plans. He says to fly six more of these starships just this year. So maybe just maybe the tall pole and a tent or the big delay item might be nasa budgets, which is another issue we can talk about. All right. Miles obrien, thanks so much. Appreciate it. Cnns kfile, is that with an incredible new reporting today about a candidate who hopes to run north carolinas Public Schools kfile on earth, some posts from her linked to q and on and some truly chilling comments. Thats ahead on this hour. This is my favorite this one, always is going to be ready for the baby from design and products to removal and installation, rebound now this with you through every step of your remodel, the color visit rebirth. Com for your free inhome design consultation. One reading seven high severity. Yeah, thats not good. Happened huge things happen happened there with a3. Learn more at rnc. Com. So would you get to Nashville Hot tenders and three Mandarin Orange tenders what about you . Three classic tenders for butterfly, shrimp . 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