righght now ththe sosource kaitlan collins. tonight straight from the source, breaking news, the as the longest actor's strike in hollywood history is coming to an end. the union representing tens of thousands of actors has just reached a deal. when could your favorite shows return? plus, ivanka trump on the stand for hours as the state's final witness in her father's fraud trial. what she said under oath as well as what she didn't. and the democrat who detfie the odds once again, governor andy beshear is here. i'm kaitlan collins and this is "the source." ♪ we start with breaking news tonight because after 118 days, hollywood actors have just struck a deal with major film and television studios. it would end a strike that shuttered production across the entertainment industry for nearly four months. the sag-aftra president and former star of "the nanny" fran dr dresh sher posted on instagram, we did it. touting a deal three times as big as the last contract. a spokesperson for the union confirmed the deal telling cnn that that strike officially ends at 12:01 a.m. pacific time. joining us now is "axios" media reporter sarah fisher who's been following all of this closely. do we have an idea of shape of this deal, what the terms of this tentative deal still has to be ratified actually looks like? >> we know a little bit, kaitlan, thae. we know this deal is definitely going to stress artificial intelligence. that has been the big sticking point for actors over the past few weeks. they wanted to ensure that protections for their actors were built into the contract. we also note to the point about this being three times as big, that there's a lot of improvements on wage negotiations. one of the things that actors have been pushing for is to ensure they're going to get paid out for streaming residuals. actors will get that payment. we don't know the precise details yet that. will come likely in a few days, once the actors have to ratify the agreement, essentially vote on it to ensure it goes into effect. >> artificial intelligence was such a big sticking point, as these negotiations have gone on. there was a lot of concern from these actors about how their images, their likeness would be used. do we have any idea how that was resolved in this deal? >> a little bit. so one of the things that towards the end of these negotiations they were really stuck on was something called sort of a digital scan, and that means an actor can go in, get their image and likeness scanned by ai to be replicated and used in the future. what the actors were fighting for and what we believe would be in this contract is something that suggests they own that scan, so they can get paid out for it in the future. of course we don't have the final details yet, but that's what we assume is in it. >> and we know as this final offer that had been made by the studio heads in recent days thr, this is our best and final offer. the union went back and looked at it for four days. i think the question people watching who are seeing this breaking news, sarah, are going to want to know, you know, given the fact that movie premiered were pushed, filming of new seasons had been halted, what does this look like in how this restarts when these new movies, new shows start to get made when viewers start to get to see them. >> if this concert gets ratified in the next few days or weeks, kai kaitlan, then we would probably look at productions starting around 2024 in january. unlike writing where you can just pick up the pen, with production you have to book venues, you have to coordinate transportation. you have to move sets. we're also heading into the holiday season, which makes it tougher. i would expect production to resume for your favorite films and series in january, and things that were pushed into the first quarter of 2024, those things might still air. we're looking at a lot of things returning in the second quarter of the year. >> all right, sarah fisher, a lot of questions of what this is going to look like, we'll wait to see once it is ratified, the final details of this, sarah fisher, thank you. >> thank you. in the meantime, in what looked like it could have been out of a movie today, ivanka trump was walking out of a new york courtroom, concluding the new york attorney general's civil fraud case that they have been making against her father for weeks now, but the legal drama is not over yet. she was the 25th and final witness for the state's case here. they rested their case after she left the stand today. she followed her father, of course, who testified on monday and her two adult brothers noon witness stand that you can see here from the court sketch. the attorney general making a point of talking about what it was like to see ivanka trump in court today. >> ivanka trump was cordial. she was disciplined. she was controlled. and she was very courteous, and despite the fact that she was very, very nice and very friendly, the facts basically demonstrate the truth. >> cnn's kara scannell was inside that courtroom as ivanka trump was on the witness stand for several hours today. kara, what was it like to be in the room? >> reporter: so kaitlan, i mean, leticia jones, was right, she was very polite, she was very composed when she answered these questions today, and she was on the stand all day long. she was once a defendant in this case. she is no longer, so she was just there as a former employee testifying about her role at the company, and the questions by the attorneys general office today really focused in on some loans she was involved with. the allegations in this case is that the trumps had provided inflated financial statements to get better terms on loans. so she was presented with some of these loan documents involving the golf course doral in miami, florida, as well as the old post office beinuilding washington, d.c. ivanka trump was testifying about how she had become the relationship person. she said she was involved in a high level. she said she didn't recall a lot of the nitty-gritty details of the loans and wasn't even involved that much in it, so distancing herself from the loans and negotiating them. now, she'd been asked questions about the personal financial statements of her father, like her brother and don jr. who testified last week, she said she didn't prepare them. she didn't know how they came together. she didn't input any information into the value of certain assets, distancing herself from these very financial statements and in one example today, they had presented with her an option she had to buy a penthouse apartment here in manhattan in one of the buildings her father owns, and the listing price she had for this was about $8.5 million. on trump's financial statements for that same year, it was about 2.5 times higher at $20 million. she was asked about that. she said she wasn't involved in it. she didn't know how they came one it. again, trying to create some distance between her and the actual statements at the center of this case, kaitlan. >> and she actually has different legal representation than that of the rest of her family in this case, right, kara? >> reporter: yeah, i mean, almost from the beginning once this -- after these charges were brought in the fall of last year, she then started a different tactic from the rest of her family. her brothers are represented by attorne attorneys, but they're working very closely with the trump organization team and the team for donald trump. she has brought in different council to represent her in this, and she was able to actually argue and get herself removed from this case as a defendant. part of it had to do because she left the business in 2017 to join the white house team. she was not around when some of these claims were still continuing, and that allowed the appeals court to drop her from the case. it was a smart legal move on her part to separate herself from them legally, and it instead had her here not as a defendant today but as a witness. >> wheand when do we expect the defense to begin their part? >> so trump's team will begin their defense on monday. they have signaled that they might call donald trump jr., eric trump back to the stand to ask them questions in a different way as they can on direct examination, then cross. they've also signaled they're going to bring in some bankers who will testify they didn't rely on these financial statements when they made decisions to make these loans as well as some experts, and they have said that their defense could go until december 15th. >> okay, kara scannell, a lot of time outside that courthouse. thank you so much for joining us tonight. and i'm joined now by former federal prosecutor, elliot wil williams. listening to what kara said there, that there were multiple times on the stand today where ivanka trump was saying, i don't recall, how does that factor into the how the judge is listening to that? >> it all depends on how believable it was, kaitlan, and that's the tricky thing here. she had somewhat of a delicate needle to thread. she number one needed to draw some distance between herself and the trump organization and herself and her brothers, but also, number two, not hide from the fact that her name is, in fact, ivanka trump, and up until 2017, she was an executive of the trump organization. and so there's no measure of trying to distance herself that would really be convincing to the judge. so, look, if a witness does not recall information, and that's accurate and truthful, then they ought to say that. if there's a belief that the witness is actually lying to the court, then certainly the court can push them for answers. it seemed that the judge was at least convinced by most of her answers based on the readouts we got from kara and others. >> it's something that the trump legal team did here that we didn't see them do on monday when trump was in court, that we haven't seen them do with donald trump jr., eric trump, the adult sons. they cross examined ivanka trumps after the prosecutors were done. they got up and had a line of questioning for her. does that signal anything to you about how they plan to make their defense when they start on monday? >> you know, i think so. only insofar as the defense that they're likely to bring is that, number one, accountants prepared this information and it really wasn't us. number two, it's a little bit blurry, and valuing buildings, putting valuations on them, is pretty complicated, and then perhaps even number three, this is all a joke and a witch hunt and you're coming after us, and i think -- oh, and also there are no victims here. this was a victimless crime. and she even today made that point! she talked about how happy the banks were to have their business. >> how happy the banks were. >> that's exactly it. it's that same victimless crime argument, but just said with a smile and more politeness. she was really saying that there weren't really consequences here. now, look, even if the banks were eager to do business with the trump family, that does not mean that they did not violate new york state law, and so it's a little bit misleading, and you heard it from all i guess four members of the trump family in some way. it it's a little bit misleading to say banks weren't unharmed. they may have engaged in unlawful conduct. >> so interesting, we will all be watching closely when the defense begins on monday. thank you for your time tonight. >> thanks, kaitlan. meanwhile, the democratic party on a winning streak after what happened last night. the elections, the victories in many states and for many different policy matters. abortion rights is once again driving voters to the polls. we're going to speak to a democratic governor who made the issue a central focus of his re-election campaign in a deep led state and still won. governor andy beshear is here next. for the first time in nine months, senator tommy tuberville may be cracking the door open to a deal, lifting potentially that one man blockade of military promotions. we'll ask one of his colleagues about that ahead. tonight, democrats are breathing a sigh of relief, mainly because of what happened on election night last night, obviously that coming on the heels of major polls about president biden's chances in 2024 that had had them on edge for a few days. the white house today responding to that string of sweeping democratic victories in states like virginia and ruby red kentucky and ohio last night. >> we saw the president's values and agenda win big across the country last night. we don't put much stock in polls. the president's going to focus on delivering for the american people. he has an agenda that is incredibly popular and that matters. >> the agenda is popular. we saw that last night. but of course there are still questions when you look at the bigger picture of this, and yes, we are still a year out from the election on what it means potentially for president biden, who is deeply unpopular as the leader of the democratic party. right now when you look at polls, ranging from "the new york times" to a new one released by cnn last night, former president cnn is beating him or within that margin of error in national and swing state polls. a big question tonight for the democratic party is did they win big in spite of president biden not necessarily because of him. the party has certainly been capitalizing on the momentum that was built ever since the supreme court overturned roe versus wade. in virginia, it helped democrats hold the senate and flip the house in that state legislature that the governor glenn youngkin there was hoping to change. and in ohio, which we were watching closely last night, it make sure and guarantee the right to an abortion in the state's constitution. also, there was this race that everyone was watching last night, a democrat winning re-election and going back to the governor's mansion in kentucky. governor andy beshear beat his trump-endorsed opponent, very popular in the republican party attorney general in the state. that's a state that trump, i should note, held and won by 26 points in 2020. and joining me now is the kentucky democratic governor andy beshear who just won re-election. governor, last night you won by a bigger margin than you did in 2019, both in urban and rural counties, what should other democrats learn from you about how to win in red areas that are considered generally to be trump country? >> well, i think it's all about doing your job and doing it well, and your job as governor is to get things done. that means you can't be chasing whatever issue of the day there is in d.c., but but focused on where people live their lives. people don't wake up thinking about president biden or president trump. they wake up thinking about do i have a good job where i can provide for my family? can i afford to take my kids or parents to a doctor when they're sick? do i feel safe in my community? are my kids getting the best education, so stick to the things that matter most to people, and then have a plan. be running for something, not against someone. have a plan on how to make people's lives better. >> one issue that you embraced is abortion. kentucky has a near total ban on the procedure. i want to remind everyone who isn't in kentucky and may not have seen it of one of the most searing ads that you ran in this race. >> i was raped by my stepfather after years of sexual abuse. i was 12. anyone who believes there should be no exceptions for rape and incest could never understand what it's like to stand in my shoes. this is to you, daniel cameron, to tell a 12-year-old girl she must have the baby of her stepfather who raped her is unthinkable. >> it's powerful testimony from 21-year-old hadly duval. governor, do you think that abortion is also going to be the issue that determines your party's success in 2024? >> well, certainly i've got to say that hadley is one of the most courageous young women i've ever met. this was a platform that she wanted. she wanted to speak up for people who can't, and certainly in kentucky, we have the most extreme ban in america where that 13-year-old raped and impregnate bid by her stepfathe would have no option. kentuckians overwhelmingly regardless of party believe in the very least we need those exceptions. it's about basic empathy for somebody who has beenviolated, and i certainly hope our legislature will pass those exceptions as soon as they come back. >> it's a republican super majority in that legislature. i mean, it's going to limit your power to do anything with abortion. what, if anything, do you think you can do on abortion in your state? >> well, i think that the people have spoken, pretty loud and clear. i think that the job whether you're a republican super majority or a democratic super majority is to do the will of the people, and when you don't, there are electoral consequences. so we'll be having a lot of conversations, but at least taking this part of the issue off the table before their elections next year in 2024 would not just -be -- but it's the right thing to do. we had a year ago, two years ago two 9-year-olds raped and impr impregnated, now, they had the option of having options. right now that doesn't exist. the other thing, kaitlan, is nonviable are pregnancies. we had a couple that did a separate commercial i think for one of the ies, and they talked about having a child that wasn't going to survive outside the womb, yet under our law they would have to carry it and then listen to their child die. it's just wrong. >> you think there's any chance in reality that those arguments, those powerful arguments are able to change anyone's mind? >> i do. i think that it's less me and it's more hadley. i think that her testimony is so powerful. i think that we can all see our daughters in hadley, and she's not done. she and others are going to continue to speak up to give voice to those that feel like they can't speak up, and that's pretty special, and she's pretty special. >> last night was a big night for democrats overall, no the just obviously with your re-election, but also with abortion rights in ohio, with issue 1 passing and just democrats generally. it's raised questions about national politics in 2024 and what that looks like. and it comes also in a week that president biden got some pretty low poll numbers both in a "new york times" sienna poll, a cnn poll as well. what do you make of calls for president biden, someone that you did not mention very much on the campaign trail to step aside from running in 2024? >> i fully expect the president will be the democratic nominee. i fully expect president trump will be the republican nominee, and while there's a lot of chatter out there, i think that's going to be the race we'll see. >> the last time that we had you on this show was back in april, and there had just been a mass shooting in your state that you were dealing with. also a mass shooting that killed a good friend of yours, tommy elliott, who was the chair of your inaugural campaign. you talked to me about how you said he had a great smile, that he carred so much about the cit of louisville, how much were you thinking of him last night? >> a lot. we lost tommy. i lost the god father to my kids about six months later. we all lived in that same neighborhood. we lost our interpreter, virginia moore, who people all around the world got to know during the pandemic. we've lost some really special people, and i recognize that's a part of life and grief is the other side of love, the more you hurt, the more you love them, but i'm thinking about them a lot. i think about tommy and sitting at the inauguration in this huge fur hat that i gave him a little grief about, and we're going to keep a chair open for him. we're going to put that hat on. i think about my friend john who i think was standing right over my shoulder four years ago when we won. i know they're looking down. i know they love me, i love them too and we'll see them again. >> governor andy beshear, thank you for your time. >> thank you. up next, some republicans are doing a little bit of soul searching after last night's election. more on what it could all mean for 2024, we'll talk about it right after this. on one side there are sighs of relief, the other mostly some groans tonight. it is a tale of two parties following big democratic victories in kentucky, ohio, and virginia last night leaving many republicans now asking themselves what went wrong. one of the them might be my next guest. scott jennings is an alum of the bush white house and senior adviser to senator mcconnell. scott, let me start by saying you're obviously close friends with daniel cameron. you've held fundraisers for him. you've given him advice. you were with him last night. what does he think went wrong? >> well, i mean, certainly i have to say, i know andy beshear as well. i have a lot of respect for the campaign they had. they did a good job and ran their plays. that's why he won. there are a number of things beyond the money. but the abortion issue i think did play a role. kentucky does have a restrictive law, but what we lack is the exceptions for rape and incest. that became a huge part of the beshear advertising campaign. and they stayed with it for two solid months or more on the air, and i just, you know, there's a lot of people that are strongly pro-life in kentucky and elsewhere who think we should have the exceptions. >> did daniel cameron acknowledge that last night? what was his kind of thought process watching those returns come in? >> look, he was -- there's a lot of issues that were on his mind last night and this morning, i saw before i flew up here today. i mean, he ran on mostly education and crime. beshear ran on mostly the abortion issue and economic development. so they both picked two different lanes. i think he's probably -- probably a little too soon, a little too raw to do too much issue analysis like that. but i think when you look at the level of advertising that was run on the topic in kentucky and in other states, you saw it made a difference and i also think we found the limits of donald trump. trump played a big role in this campaign. he's a big supporters of daniel. and daniel used trump to help close the campaign at the end, but it didn't quite get him over the hufmp. there are still voters who would love everything about daniel cameron, except they don't love the influence of trump on our politics. they turned out last november in the midterm. they don't like biden either. they turned out some in kentucky this november. we've had two straight election os that s of that now. >> he also tried to tie andy beshear to president biden a lot. andy beshear did say there he does believe he'll be the nominee to those calls for him to drop out. what did you make of how governor beshear ran this race and how he wasn't, you know -- he talked about the biden policies, the battery plans, the abortion. but he didn't talk about the president himself. >> joe biden didn't win kentucky in 2020. it historically has not been a state where democrats win in the presi presidential, but they are successful running democratic governors. so i think it makes sense for andy beshear to stand as his own independent candidate and run the race that he did. he is a good governor. he was really good in crisis respon responses. he talked about in your interview how he dealt with mass shootings. i think one thing on the daniel cameron front, though, there was this belief because daniel cameron was black in some places that he would get some of the black vote that might be leaning towards donald trump. a lot of black people also remember daniel cameron was a person who did not prosecute the police officers who killed breonna taylor. that louisville police department was a central -- it became a national story, and that was under beshear's leadership. so i think that also -- you know, or under cameron's leadership. i think that also played a little bit into the race. >> i do think that's a part of this that maybe voters outside of kentucky don't always associate with that race but is important. trump himself obviously, you know, went from saying that daniel cameron was not actually that much of a mcconnell guy even though he's endorsed by mcconnell to saying the reason he lost is because he couldn't alleviate the stench of mcconnell. >> the agriculture commissioner was mitch mcconnell's campaign, won by almost 20 points. mike adams our secretary of state got reelected, former mcconnell scholar at the university of louisville, had the most votes on the ticket. in fact, mike my old college roommate, by the way, was the least trumpy guy on the ballot and he got more votes than anybody running last night. dare i say that's incorrect and that we found the limits of trump's influence. >> i'm curious quickly what you thought about what senator mitt romney said today as they were doing the postmortem on capitol hill. this is what he told our colleagues. >> when we're talking about some social issues, they could become highly divisive, and we end up not doing as well as we could have. i think we're winning when we're talking about the economy, talking about the cost of living. >> do you think republicans realize that? >> i think social issues are economic issues. abortion is an economic issue and i think voters are seeing that more and more, whether you have paid child care, whether you can afford those things. they can talk about the economy, voters are more nuanced than people are giving them credit for right now, and i agree, though, with romney, the culture wars are not a winning path forward for the republican party. if desantis, they're debating tonight f desantis were to become the nominee, he's thinking of culture wars and i don't think that will farewell for the republican party. >> it was beshear who ran ads on abortion, not cameron. sometimes in campaigns you don't have the luxury of ignoring things, and in beshear -- >> boabortion works for indicat cl democrats clearly. pennsylvania is critical in any presidential election. it had a critical night last night. what did the governor think of it, governor josh shapiro is here next. in a crisis caused by a terrorist massacre. warning civilians to clear out, while hamas forces them back. allowing in food and water, which hamas steals. i could use a little help. yeah, there's a lot of risk out there. huh ♪♪ hey, is this thing hard to learn? 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>> i think you have to keep looking at the actual data, and the data comes on election night, 2022 and again last night t in 2023. freedom won, standing up for democracy won. that gst attitude we bring every day in pennsylvania. getting stuff done for the good people of pennsylvania. that one. when you look ahead to 2024, the pres president's got a record of gsd, whether it's helping us repair identify 95 or connecting people to high speed internet, making sure our roads and bridges are fixed and that we're having a real clean energy economy boom in pennsylvania, which is coming as a result of the president's investments. i think he's on the right side of freedom. he's on the right side of standing up for people's rights, and he's on the right side of getting stuff done. >> but do you think he can overcome that, given, i mean, even if you think he is on the right side of that and certainly the white house says a lot of this is -- we just need to message better on our policies, can he overcome those pretty bad poll numbers a year out? and it is a year , out, but it' also, there's not a ton of time to make that up. can that be overcome, and is it a messaging issue in your view? >> well, look, kaitlan, it is a year from now. that's a long time, and there's also a clear contrast in this race between president biden and the former president. there's a clear contrast between president biden who's investing in roads and bridges and internet and protecting our freedoms, and the other side, the former president, president trump who want thes to restrict our freedoms, who brought total chaos to the white house and brought chaos into our living room seemingly every single day. that clear contrast is something that will -- voters will see more clearly as the race joins. and as we move forward, i think you'll continue to see the president of the united states be able to prosecute an effective case as to why he deserves a second term. >> so you think it will get better as time goes on. i do want to ask you about something else that's happening. you talked about your jewish faith a lot on the campaign trail. you've talked about fighting anti-s anti-semitism, which we know has been on the rise in the u.s., and we've seen some really ugly instances over the last several weeks since the attacks happened in israel. tonight we're hearing from some progressive members of your party like congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez who say they believe the president's position on israel could impact his standing with young voters. what do you think? >> look, i'm much more focused on trying to see if we can destroy hamas's capabilities in the middle east and making sure that israel -- standing with israel as israel has the right to defend itself and ensuring that what we're seeing in the middle east doesn't give rise to anti-s anti-semitism, islamophobia, antiarab sentiment, here in my commonwealth or throughout this country. no one should use what's happening in the middle east as an excuse for their anti-arab sentiment or islamophobia, or a justification for their anti-semitism. i think what we need to do is stand with israel as she defends herself against this terrorism. we need to work hard to make sure that those hostages are released including american hostages, and we need to make sure that the temperature here in the united states is taken down and everyone, no matter what you look like or where you come from, that everyone here can live in peace and live in security. >> yeah, but young voters were such a key part of the coalition that put biden in the white house. do you have any concerns that it could alienate them or that they may not show up to vote on election day? >> you know, kaitlan, i'm just not looking at this through a political prism. i think it's certainly too soon to know what the effect of this is going to be later on with one particular demographic. i'm certainly not the pundit. you know, you are. you can analyze that. i'm focused on making sure that in the spirit of william penn here in the commonwealth of pennsylvania, we're a welcoming, warm place for all people, no matter where you worship or where you come from. it's critically important that everyone feel safe here. that's what i'm focused on as governor. >> i'm not a pundit either. i'm going to take insunllt to that. josh shapiro -- >> i mean no disrespect. >> we were glad to have you on the source tonight the, we look forward to having you back again. thank you for your time tonight. >> thank you, kaitlan. we have new developments on capitol hill, senator tommy tuberville's months' long blockade, the question is is the public now open to ending that hold? we'll talk to o one of hisis colleaeagues next.t. r now w ope? 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>> it is a shift. it is not like he has not been trying to find a path forward the past. he has. but i think he has recognized as well that we've got probably close to 400 uniformed officers right now that are waiting for either reassignment or an advancement in grade, and some of them, if they are not taken care of fairly quickly, may decide to retire rather than move up in the ranks. we can't afford to lose that type of experience at this point. so senator tuberville has been sympathetic to that discussion, but at the same time he truly has a econcern with the abortio policy was was arbitrarily imposed by the administration through the secretary of defense. it bothered a lot of us. the challenge is finding the right way to put pressure on the administration to take out we believe to be an into appropriate policy regarding abortion. >> it's 452, i believe, is the latest number from the pentagon today. the question is after that meeting that senate republicans had yesterday, is there actually something realistic in mind to get him to back off of this hold? was there anything he didn't reject when y'all were behind closed doors? >> he didn't totally reject any of the offers. what he said was that he would take them under consideration. he recognizes that time is, you know, of the essence for a number of these individuals. at the same time, he believes that his cause is just. so right now what we tried to do is find as many different options that might work for him. at the same time, to, you know, he made his point. the whole country understands the fact that this department, the department of defense, made this change, and that change changed policy that had been in effect since 1985. to do that without legislative approval was wrong. and the coach made that very clear. now he is saying, look, i don't want to hurt these guys. if i can find a path forward, i want to. we have offered a couple of different ideas and ways to show support for him. i think the conference itself is supportive of his goal, but we have a real concern about, you know, the impact that it's having on uniformed officers that really don't have any say in trying to fix the mess that's there. >> senator, as you know, this is a policy that the pentagon put in place after the supreme court overturned roe v. wade. that's why the white house and the pentagon argues they felt the need to do it. i understand you say that you agree with his position, that you don't like this policy. a lot of republicans we heard from don't. is this the way to get what you want by punishing service members and their families? >> i guess that's the message that we've shared with senator tuberville, is that there should be a better way of doing it. it's different than the option that i would have taken. at the same time, senator tuberville chose this, and that's his right to do so. now we are trying to find the best path forward. i truly believe that senator tuberville is trying to find the right path forward as well and i think he understands that he wants to resolve this. he told me that today, he wants to find a path forward. we have suggested some options to him that would allow him to continue to at least make the case that what they did in changing that policy was not -- >> would you -- >> in accordance with the law -- >> would you -- >> other options. some are maybe cooking up a bipartisan deal to make a rules change for military confirmation. would you be willing to vote for that? they need at least nine republicans to do so. >> they would need 60 votes in the senate. it would be changing a standing order. it was down in 2013 one time. there are some concerns with that by most of the members of my conference because of the timing that they are putting this in effect. it would impact during this time in which this administration was in office, but it would not be continued on. the chances of them continuing that on during an administration change is suspect. >> would you vote for it? >> not at this point. look, i think there are other options available to us yet. we are running out of time before that might be off by our democrat colleagues. but over the next couple of days we'd like to find a better alternative. there are several being discussed. i think the coach, senator tuberville, is seriously considering them. we hope to have that resolved in the next few days. >> you are a no on the rules change. we will see if he is a yes on changes his position. thank you for your time. thank you. also an update from middle east tonight as the i.d.s defense forces claims it destroyed 130 of those complex tunnels that hamas uses underneath gaza. of course, many obstacles remain in that underground war. we will give you an update next. you're probably not easily persuaded to switch mobile providers for your business. but what if we told you it's possible that comcast business mobile can save you up to 75% a year on your wireless bill versus the big three carriers? have we piqued your interest? you can get two unlimited lines for just $30 each a month. there are no term contracts or line activation fees. and you can bring your own device. oh, and all on the most reliable 5g mobile network nationwide. wireless that works for you. it's not just possible. . the pentagon tonight announcing an airstrike on a weapons storage facility in syria they say is used by iran ace islamic revolutionary guard core and affiliated groups. the second strike in two weeks. they say it was in response to attacks on american forces stationed in iraq and syria. all of this is coming as the israeli military provides this update. saying it destroyed 130 tunnel shafts in gaza since that war began, since you saw israel's forces moving into gaza. of course, in that forcing thousands of palestinians to flee. the united nations says tonight that 40,000 people have evacuated to southern gaza just since saturday alone. of those who were able to make that to th

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