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Language ] i thought at first it was some kind of photoshop, the arabs did, she tells me. I didnt think such a thing could be possible. You didnt believe it . No. My daughter, no. How did she look to you here . Afraid, shock. Maya was shocked when she later saw this 30minute hamas video live streamed on facebook. Her former husband has a leg wound and is taken away. [ speaking in a nonenglish language ] armed gunmen question his partner, their son, and the two terrified daughters. [ speaking in a nonenglish language ] theyre my whole life, those girls, she says. Theyre everything i wanted all my life. [ speaking in a nonenglish language ] this is my existence, to be a mother. Its all i wanted. I didnt want to be rich. I didnt want to be married. I didnt want anything. I wanted to be a mom. To feel close to her daughter, she wears a tie dyed dress she made for her. I love you. She has given dna samples to authorities but says shes heard nothing since then. Shes desperate and just wants her daughters and all the hostages returned. [ speaking in a nonenglish language ] i hope my daughters are watching this and im sending them a hug, she says. I believe everyone will return. And for them to know that were here, the whole family together. Supporting each other, cooperating, and working together to get them back. Cnns coverage continues from israel. Captions by vitac www. Vitac. Com good evening. Im kaitlan collins, and this is the source. Our breaking story tonight, israel is bombarding gaza with a massive aerial assault, as hamas is now threatening to execute Civilian Haas Tanls and broadcast it live if these strikes continue without warning, they say. President biden announced today that an unknown number of americans are missing tonight, and it is likely that they are among those hostages who have been taken into gaza. At least 11 americans are among the more than 900 People Killed so far in israel, and we should note we will hear from President Biden tomorrow on these attacks. Israel has pummelled at least 130 targets in gaza. Prime minister netanyahu says is a force, quote, like never before. He also warned that this is just the beginning. Theres also this remarkable aerial view of striking targets that israel says serves az hub for terrorists. The unthinkable horrors from the Surprise Attack on the country, elderly murdered, handcuffed children executed, young people who were shot in the back, entire families now gone tonight. Weve seen the horrific videos with our own eyes of civilians being dragged away, including at a Music Festival, where we are told at least 260 bodies have been discovered. Hamas tonight is also sending a new barrage of rockets into israel, as the white house is sending a message with these colors illuminated in white and blue in honor of the israeli flag tonight. I want to go life to ashed to, where my colleague Anderson Cooper has been reporting all today. Youre about 20 miles north of where gaza is. Can you describe what it has been like since youve been on the ground and to see the aftermath of this . Yeah, i should just point gaza is as you said about 19 or so miles in that direction. And throughout the evening, even just as you were talking we have heard the distant rumble of very loud explosions, some likely from israeli aircraft, some from israeli artillery being fired into sites in gaza. You know, we are almost 72 hours now, once dawn here around 6 30 a. M. , it will be 72 hours since this Terror Attack along multiple fronts began. And its still a very chaotic situation. I just spoke to a spokesperson for the Israeli Defense forces who is saying there are still hamas militants attempting to breach the border, attempting to make suicide attacks, that there are still fire fights, activity from hamas gunmen on the ground in israel territory with Israeli Forces. He believes many of them were just, sort of, left behind either intentionally or werent able to get into gaza and are making a last stand, trying to kill as many people as they can. It is still a very kinetic situation, and it is not, you know, all along the border with gaza, just hearing more explosions off in the distance now. Theres a lot of unknowns. And theres you know, The Big Question of course is what happens next . Weve obviously seen large movements of troops, of supplies. Theyre trying to shore up much of the border, which was breached in multiple locations. But theres certainly a lot of work to be done just in terms of getting forces to the places that israeli authorities want them and then making the decision about how to proceed from here. And about how often are you hearing those booms in the background tonight . I mean, its, what . 4 00 in the morning where you are right now. Its pretty just while you were speaking, there was more. We cant pick it up. We dont have a mic pointing that direction. Its really constant. I mean, its so distant, it feels like if youve ever been in an apartment building, people are moving furniture above you, its this rumbling that you just get used to after time. You can hear it also in tel aviv. Its a slightly different sound. Its a little bit more intense here. It is this distant rumbling of the sound of artillery firing, the sound of impacts, and occasionally of fighter jets in the air. And of course when you hear that, anderson, you think of all the people and the Human Suffering that is the result of this. I know i was just watching you earlier, and you were talking to this mother whose two young daughters were kidnapped by hamas, which is obviously i mean, its not every parents nightmare, its every parents worse nightmare quadrupled some. Talking to yeah. I mean, her daughters have been kidnapped. She didnt get any word about it until a friend of hers sent her a video actually a still photo taken by hamas, posted by hamas On A Telegram on telegram, which is where a lot of israelis are learning that their loved ones are being held hostage. Its so chaotic that thats actually how they are being informed. This is a woman named and her two daughters are being held. We dont have that. But shes desperately hoping that they return. Shes gotten no word from anyone in the Israeli Government yet. She understands because it is still very chaotic. But shes desperate for some sort of word of whats happen. All shes seen are still photos posted by hamas and a 30minute Facebook Live stream that hamas did, in which her two daughters appear terrified and being spoken to by hamas members. I want to go now to nic robertson, who is also in ashed to, where hamas rockets have caused significant damage throughout this conflict so far. Nick, talk about what you have seen on the ground here today. Anderson, i think one of the big significant things that weve seen thats been different over the previous, lets say 48 hours here, a significant amount of Military Hardware moving into position. You know, in the early days, that very first night, less than 48 hours of hamas attack, we began to see tanks transported towards gaza. What were seeing this evening in Multial Places and we spent a lot of days within a few miles of the border with gaza is units, organized units of troops and Armored Personnel Carriers or, sort of, scout vehicles with big large jeeps with the sides rolled up. The soldiers have their weapons pointed out of the vehicles. They really look like very experienced combat soldiers. This movement that weve seen today, its organized. Its large, organized groups of troops that are moving on mass as a unit. Theyre bringing their supplies. You see the supplies packed up, and theyre all heading very close to the border with gaza. At one place we saw more than 20 tanks in one tight grouping. Again, just a few miles from the border. This is new. And its indicative of what is happening. Theres increased security down here. There is an increased presence that is not an incursion at the moment. Its securing and reinforcing the border. And i think the other take away is down in vehicles smashed on the side of the road where they were trying to stay safe, the scenes are the most brutal and chilling and cold blooded and calculated and callus and awful murder in cold blood. It really brings home to you the utter brutality that was wrought on those people. And you understand the fear, the concern in the families for those who are now missing, who were taken away, who hamas kidnapped and now have as hostages in gaza. I think these are the big take aways today, that and the amount of fire power thats being laid down on gaza and intensity of some of the barrages today that you could really see very clearly. Nic robertson, thank you. Kaitlan, back to you. Anderson, we were just talking about all the families that are still missing. Weve now learned two americans who were in israel when hamas launched its attack are also among those missing tonight, judith and natale were visiting family in a small kibbutz in southern israel, that was invaded by hamas early on saturday morning. Harrowing accounts have emerged of chaos and terror in the village that is just three miles from the gaza strip. Many of the residents are still among the missing as well tonight. Yoshi schneiders aunt and uncle have been missing since saturday, along with their daughter, her husband, and their two young sons. A video that was posted on social media by hamas after the attack, as anderson was just saying, that mother found out her two daughters being kidnapped by seeing a video online. You can see her and her two sons alive. Its clear she appears distressed here. Shes holding both of her sons in this video. What is still unclear tonight is when and where this video was taken and also where they are now. Yosi joins me now. Im so sorry for what you are going through and just this misery. Have you heard anything tonight about your Family Members . No. We have zero information about them. They disappeared saturday without knowing. So, the way that you learned that they had apparently been kidnapped was from seeing this video posted online. Imagine you wake up saturday morning and alarms going one after another. Its crazy thing. And then you start hearing things from the villages around gaza. Start looking and telegram to see any news they can get from there. And one of the photos that i opened was the children. One of them is four years old and is nine months old. So, you can understand how young they are. You can see in the movie, shes upset. She doesnt know anything. Theyre screaming in arabic. She doesnt understand and theyre pushing her from one side to the other. You can see there is a blood stain on the blanket. You can see the kidnappers are covered in blood. I dont know who it belongs to. We are, kind of, in a very unknown situation. I mean, shes just the fact that theyre four years old and just nine months. In the video, you dont see her husband. What is your fear that they have been separated here . 100 they have been separated. My hope is that they didnt separate them from the kids because we know that were not dealing with people. Were dealing with barbarians. Theyre not even animals. I cannot even call them animals. My aunt that we just saw in the picture, shes a very sick person. She needs life saving medicines. And she has a very high degree of parkinsons. Shes diabetic. She has blood issues. And she wont survive without her medicine. She has parkinsons. She has parkinsons, a very late stage. He is only nine months old. Without baby food, without diapers, without anything. And we know that the people that kidnapped them, theyre not people. Theyre barbarians. The only purpose we saw movies of people that had been kidnapped that had been molested, even kids. So, when you see all of these things and you know that theyre radical muslims and you know what theyre capable to do. Are you Still Holding out hope tonight . First of all, she and the kids are still together, i hope. Second hope is that theyre getting the right treatment and theyre getting the medicine that they need and that theyre in a safe place. Have you heard anything from the government or from the military or anyone about the Search Efforts . As you know, there is a very chaotic situation right now in israel. Were just starting to get manage with all these things and starting to get defense to attack. So, i believe its going to take a couple of days. I believe hamas starts to give us some information, whos alive, whos injured. Dont forget that not only hamas invited and then another organization and even i saw pictures and movies from citizens of that came into israel and kidnapped civilians. So, we dont know who all is there. Yosi, i know there are so many questions tonight. I cant even imagine how painful this is. We are obviously wishing for the best for them and hoping that theyre being found. Thank you for your time tonight. Thank you. Meanwhile, israels leader is warning that, quote, difficult days are still ahead, as israel is fighting for its existence. The Prime Minister says, will the country launch a Ground Offensive soon . Were going to speak to the israe israeli ambassador to the United Nations on set. Amers likely among those that are being held captive, President Biden says. Israeli air strikes are bombarding gaza tonight as part of what israels defense minister say ss a complete siege. We have watched, as israeli tanks have moved closer to the gaza border and thousands of reservists have been told to prepare for a potential ground incursion. A spokesman for the Israeli Defense forces said they have destroyed 800 targets and also killed hundreds of hamas fighters. Im joined by israels ambassador to the United Nations, who was also israeli ambassador to the United States. Ambassador, thank you for being here tonight. Thank you for having me, kaitlan. We heard from Prime Minister netanyahu earlier who was just, kind of, describing the horrific nature of this, children who were handcuffed and killed, women who have been raped in front of their friends, abducted. Its chilling. And i imagine youve never seen anything like this. Never. And ive been serving in the israeli Public Sector for the last 27 years. Weve endured hardships, and i was a member of the Security Cabinet during a few operations. Weve never seen atrocities like this time. Look, it was a plan well designed and they planned it, like, months ago it happened, with or without the coordination of iran but definitely with the assistance and help and weapons and funds that they got from iran. And yes, we were surprised. But we swore that it will never happen again. Thats why you keep hearing the Prime Minister, the Minister Of Defense swearing that this time you know, hamas took power in gaza 17 years ago. Since then we tried maybe economic benefits, maybe the rehabilitation of the gaza strip. Never helped to change their ideology. Their charter said loud and clear, you should butcher every jew that you encounter. They want only the annihilation of the jewish state. Exactly, you know, thats the same ideology like i. S. I. S. , like al quaeda. You cannot change their ideology by having any dialogue with them. So, as hard as its going to be, we are committed to obliterate obliterate their Terrorist Infrastructure because thats the only way to ensure it will not happen again. How is that complicated when you look at the civilians who are on the gaza strip . How does israel factor that into what is going to happen next . Definitely i cannot say how much we will factor in the fact that we have maybe an unprecedented number of hostages in gaza. We expect the red cross. We expect all International Organizations to focus on these hostages and how they are treated and that they receive treatment according to international law. But its not going to stop us, prevent us, from doing what we need to do in order to secure the future of israel. We cannot restore security for the citizens of israel if hamas continues with its military buildup. We are surrounded by Terrorist Proxies of iran like hamas on our southern border and hezbollah on our northern border. Both committed only to the annihilation of israel. And what we are hearing from a spokesman for the military wing of hamas tonight is that they will not negotiate for hostages, as the strikes from israel are ongoing. I mean, whats your response to that . And are these hostages going to be able to get out of there . Of course we want to see all of our boys, girls, grandmothers, everyone who was abducted, we want to see them back home. But right now, our focus is looking at our national strategy, is to obliterate hamas terrorist capabilities. If it happened now, it will happen again in the future and on a much larger scale. By the way, its not going to happen only in israel. As i. S. I. S. Inspired many islamic terrorist radicals around the world to destroy, to attack, to murder, it will happen again because these are the same they share the same ideologies. Do you know how many hostages they have . We estimate a number that is between 100 and 150. I think its an Unpress Departmented number. And does that include americans as well . It includes american. We dont know the exact number, and were still checking. Its a very sad story because, as you know, there was a big party there, and they shot the revellers as if they were insects. They shot rpgs on their cars, people were burning alive. It takes a lot of time to recognize them, to know who they were. So, therefore, we try to be responsible now, not to give numbers. But, yes, there were americans there. There were also other nationals, not only americans. They abducted the grandmothers who were Holocaust Survivors with the Film Crew Taking Care of her. They took photos of them making fun of her. You see the hate. You see the antisemitism. Its horrific. Its important that you say that that there are between 100 and 150. Theres reporting from axios that Prime Minister netanyahu, in one of his calls with President Biden, said that israel had no choice but to unleash a Ground Operation in gaza. Is that accurate . Look, you cannot expect me to share our Military Plans with your viewers and then with the enemy. Of course, again, our main commitment is to obliterate their Terrorist Infrastructure. That is something we expect the whole world to understand and to support. We, unfortunately, sadly we are used to getting these, you know, hugs or people are paying their condolences on the first day after this tragedy happens. But we hope that the world this time would remember all these atrocities not only today but the weeks to come. Because that is the time when we will try and we should all remember, hamas is not only a Terrorist Organization whos torturing and killing juews, thy also use the people of gaza. You know, we defend our children with defensive iron dome missiles. But they defend their offensive missiles with their children. They surround their weapons with children, with civilian population. They store the weapons underneath hospitals or schools. So, we have no other choice. If we want to prevent these atrocities from happening again, we will have and we already started to strike in gaza because we know where are their terror tunnels. We know where they store their missile and rockets. We know where all their weapons are being hide. Ambassador, thank you for coming in and taking the time tonight, especially during such a horrific time. Up next, well be back on the ground in israel, where Anderson Cooper is reporting. Youll hear from one of the victims who survived that deadly attack that the ambassador wasa just referencing at the Music Festival. Thats next. Next. Tonight, israels Prime Minister, benjamin netanyahu, saying, quote, many hundreds of terrorists, he says, have been eliminated. The Prime Minister warning this is just the beginning of their response to those unprecedented attacks, anderson. Yeah, President Biden today said americans are likely among the held captive by hamas. Theres still obviously a lot we dont know about the total number of captives overall, people who have been kidnapped. The white house says it cannot confirm how Many Americans may be being held, but the u. S. Is working, quote, by the hour, according to them, to learn more. Also want to talk about the more than 260 people who were found dead at the site of a Music Festival that came under attack near the gaza border. This was probably the single most horrific scene in term of loss of life on saturday. My colleague Jeremy Diamond spoke to one woman [ speaking in a nonenglish language ] translator i really dont know. Its a miracle, miral can. Miracle because people who were next to me did not get out alive. Reporter with a bullet in her leg and shrapnel in her stomach, she considers herself one of the lucky ones. But when Rocket Sirens sounded at the nova Music Festival in southern israel and hamas militants began killing and kidnapping hundreds of Festival Goers, her fate was far from sealed. Translator it was just shooting range shooting. Whoever could run, ran. And then others got killed. Reporter after bullets peered the window of the car, she found refuge in a small shed, crammed in with at least 50 other people. Translator there were already people who were injured. Some some their back side, some, their heads. I had a scarf on me and somebody next to me was bleeding so, i gave her a tourniquet on her leg. Reporter minutes later, shots rang out. Translator there was silence for a few minutes and the policewoman who was there with us simply screamed. Whoever wanted to be alive needs to leave now. Those who could leave left. Those who couldnt, i dont know what happened with them. Reporter she and her boichbd took off running. But she panicked, as her legs buckled, her boyfriend dragged her across the ground and managed to shove her into the window of a passing vehicle. But at every turn, more hamas fighters. They just went with white pickup trucks. On each pickup truck there were at least 20 terrorists with shotguns, machine guns, id never seen anything like this in my life. Reporter she once again jumped out of the car and began running before finding an abandoned army tank on the side of the road. The bullets reached her there too. Hiding under the tank, she was shot in the leg and shrapnel from a grenade pierced her stomach. Translator and in that time, we didnt see. We couldnt see anything, and they were taken. Some people were taken. Reporter for six more hours, she lay underneath that tank until Israeli Soldiers rescued her and evacuated her to the hospital, where she was one of more than 60 victims treated. You thought you were going to die . Yeah. Reporter and that prayer shes referencing is a prayer that jews say when they believe theyre going to die, and she very much did. But she also now is reflecting on those friends who did not make it, who have either died or who are missing or who were all but certainly kidnapped. One of those friends, she said, came back to return to save friends. But he was kidnapped. Two of her other friends are missing, and another friend who are left the party earlier but heard that there were shots being fired, heard that his friends were in danger returned. He helped people along the road, but since then he hasnt been seen. Anderson . Just awful. Jeremy diamond, thank you, in jerusalem tonight. A lot more to cover ahead. President biden is going to address the nation about israel tomorrow afternoon. Theres also the u. S. Sending more fighter jets to the middle east and a hightech Aircraft Carrier as well. The question, of course, is what americas role in this region during this war may look like. These issues next. Enator on get exclusive offers on select new volvo models. Contact your volvo retailer to learn more. Tonight is u. S. Is expediting Military Shipments to israel and has deployed the uss gerald ford, which is the navys most advanced Aircraft Carrier to the eastern mediterranean, all of this a show of force in response to the undprentsed attack on saturday. Defense officials telling cnn tonight that the u. S. Is also offering special Operations Planning and intelligence support to help rescue those hostages, including americans, as the ambassador just noted that have been taken by hamas. Fbi Crisis Response experts are also deploying to israel tonight. And all this comes as lawmakers are pledging to send more aid to israel after that attack. The house remaining paralyzed tonight without a speaker. And joining me now is democratic senator chris murphy, who sits on the Senate Foreign relations committee. Senator, thank you for being here tonight. Weve now learned that the fbi is helping Israeli Forces try to find and locate these hostages. Are you hopeful that they will ultimately be able to secure their release, given we do believe americans are among them . Well, were still learning the extent of this horror, trying to understand how Many Americans are amongst those being held hostage. I mean, this is absolutely unconscionable, the idea that hamas is using these hostages, threatening to execute them, should israel go about the work of trying to hold those responsible for these killings accountable. But we have the best in the business in the United States at locating hostages and trying to extricate them from captivity. And so to the extent the job can be done, the United States and israel working together will have the top people on the job. But this is a massive undertaking because we are just trying to get a handle on how many have been taken captive, where they are. And then once you do that, you can assess whether there is any attempt to extricate them. One of your colleagues, speaking of what the hill can do this week, says they do believe the senate will have an aid package for israel ready soon. What do you expect that package will look like, and do you believe it will be tied to more funding for ukraine . So, im open to getting this done any way. Obviously we cant leave ukraine aid behind. But were going to try to get c consensus on a package that could include israel aid, ukraine aid. There was some talk in the house today about packaging that together with support for efforts in taiwan. Listen, im open to any pathway to get this done. Clearly israel is going to need support and very quickly. Simply replenishing iron dome is an expensive endeavor. We have historically picked up a good piece of that tab, and i think its really important for us to do that now so that israel can use their domestic funding to try to continue this fight in gaza. I expect youll have pretty quick con ssensus between democrats and republicans and hopefully that will allow us to grease the wheels on getting the aid done to ukraine. Obviously you know as well as i do that nothing the senate does can go through the house, they cant do anything because they dont currently have a house speaker. Are you confident House Republicans will be able to get that taken care of so an aid package could get passed . This crisis certainly ups the ante in the house. Im hopeful that they are going to see, you know, the real grave danger that they are presenting to the countrys National Security and to israels security if they dont get their act together. But as you know, we have work to do in the senate as well. We dont have clean hands. Weve got senator tuberville continuing to hold up 300 promotions in the military. Many of these are posts that are going to be supporting the fight in the middle east. And we have State Department nominees, including ambassador to israel, ambassador to lebanon, that we need to get back as soon as possible. This is a time republicans need to put their love of country and support of israel ahead of their partisan beeves with the president or with each other. In the name of the defense of this country and israel. Senator chris murphy. Thank you. Up next for us, israel has been Fighting Hamas for decades but is now vowing to crush them tonight, comparing them to i. S. I. S. Even. Someone whwho knows the conflic well will join us next tplain. Tonight, palestinian Prime Minister Abbas Palestine Authority in the west bank called on the United Nations to intervene in gaza. Of course, in gaza, hot hamas presents itself as an alternative to the palestinian authority. They say civilian hostages will be executed, and those killings will be broadcast live if israel continues to target them without warning, as we have seen this air assault continued. Joining me now, axios Foreign Policy reporter barack ravine. Barack, im so glad youre here tonight. And for people who have not been following this as closely as you have for so long now, can you explain how hamas operates, what their end goal is here . Good night, kaitlan. I think that the main thing to know about hamas that its been governing i think we lost baracks connection there. We will continue to check on that. We lost baracks connection on that. We will continue to check on that and bring him back, if we can get him back. Obviously, he is a reporter that follows all of this closely. He also had new reporting tonight about the concerns of this spreading into a wider regional conflict. That is certainly something we heard from lawmakers here. Its something that Administration Officials briefed lawmakers on just yesterday. We will bring that important reporting back to you here on the source. Also tonight, we have a remarkable story has come out of a horrific time, this of a retired israeli general who fought his way through a Village Under Siege by hamas to rescue his family, believing that if he did not, no one else would, and also stopping to help others fleeing the gunfire. We will tell you that story, next. the new stuffed quesadillas. Only at El Pollo Loco is it possible my network could take my business the nto the next level . Llas. 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All of this was happening as they were making their way to the small village where they, lived not far from the gaza strip. As a mirror and his family were hiding silently in their safe room, under instruction from his father, it went on for nearly ten hours, they had no food, no electricity, no cell service. Outside, the terrifying sound of hamas gunfire drew closer. Amir initially said when they woke up that morning after the Jewish Holiday that they thought when they heard those rockets, it was something that happened unfortunately regularly in israel, just rocket fire. They went into the safe room, and that is where they were hiding with their two young children, when they realized it was something else, when they heard the gunfire and realized that a Terror Attack was happening in their neighborhood. He said that this is what his father did after that and those half hours where they sat silently in that room. But they joined a group of soldiers who are planning to begin a process of going from house to house in this community. We are a community about 500 to 600 people, you know, from house to house, look for the terrorist, killed him, and free the people. And they did this methodically. They went through dozens of houses. We were not aware that this is happening. Lost all cell phone reception. But we heard the gunfire, we realized there were exchanges of fire between two sides. And thats when i told my two young daughters who are beginning to lose patience, they were great heroes, but they were beginning to lose patience after 9. 5 hours. I told them, grandfathers coming, stay silent, stay quiet. In grandfathers coming. And after a another hour of these battles from home to home, the soldiers engaged in, we heard a large bang on the window of the safe room and the voice of my father. And my older daughter, shes 3. 5 years old, she said grandfather is here. And thats when we started crying for the first time after ten hours in this situation. Its just an amazing story there. And out of what has been such a horrific 72 hours. We have learned more since hamas launch this unprecedented attack. This is one of the only bright spot that we have learned about this. He talked about how what his father went through. And i want to tell you here we actually tried to get him on the show tonight. He was in travel during the 9 00 hour so we could not. Well try to get him on another night this week. But his story is something that you have not read anywhere. He traveled from tel aviv, as i noted, armed with only a pistol. Hes a former Major General in the idf. He pushed to Police Checkpoints to try to get to his son. They urged him to turn around. They continued. At one, point they actually encountered some of those Festival Goers from the festival. We spoke with one woman last night whose boyfriend is still missing from that. They were fleeing, of course, as hamas had invaded where that festival is taking place and began firing at them. They continued on. They then encountered other israelis who are in a gun fight with hamas. He ended up giving them actually his car and getting a different ride to go to his sons to boots. That is where hainan of course fought hamas as well to get to his son. He said he did that because he knew that if he didnt do it, that no one else would. And that was his primary concern. It is one of the few stories out of this that you have seen that has been just one small gleaming hope out of everything weve heard out of israel. Of course, well continue to