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Overnight former President Trump was indicted accused of trying to turn over the 2020 president ial elections. Not only trump, but 18 others are indicted. Each defendant is facing racketeering. In the indictment, he tried to convince one to change the election. Former President Trump calls is a witch hunt and trying to derail his campaign. Trump facing a charges of 91 charges in georgia, florida, new york and washington d. C. We have a ton to get to. Cnn this morning starts right now. If youre just waking up, this is significant. Donald trump and 18 codefendants are facing a slew of charges. They include Rico Racketeering charges that were meant to take down mob basses bosses and gangs. They say that he created fake electors and Ellie Breeching voting systems to try and find evidence of voter fraud. We have Team Coverage all morning. Well start live outside the Fulton County courthouse. Trump has been ordered to surrendered by next friday. Reporter Fani Willis Giving donald trump, jr. And his codefendants till august 25th to turn themselves in. They say is this is the end of the one chapter and the beginning of the another. A Fulton County returned a true bill of indictment. Reporter the 98 Page Indictment lists 41 Felony Counts against donald trump and 18 codefendants to overturn the 2020 election results, accusing them of unlawfully conspired to participate in a criminal enterprise. Every individual charge in the indictment is charged with one count of violating georgias Racketeer Influenced And Corrupt Organizations Act through participation in a criminal enterprise in Fulton County, georgia and elsewhere, to accomplish the illegal goal of allowing donald trump to seize the president ial term of Office Beginning on january 20th, 2021. Reporter it included an additional 30 unIndicted Conspirators in addition to the 18 codefendants. They called The Grand Jury presentation one sided. Even the events on monday, quote, shocking and absurd. A truck alley tweeting out, he did nothing wrong. And House Speaker Kevin Mccarthy said that justice should be blind. But biden has weaponnized his leading political opponent. It was an intense meeting. Reporter former georgia Lieutenant Governor before a georgia garage. It was the highest tension in the room. It was intense period of time. Everybody was prepared. Reporter the indictments stem from a two and a half year Criminal Investigation into trumps alleged interference in the 2020 georgia president ial election, including his call to georgia Secretary Of State Brad Raffensperger. I just want to find 11,780 votes. Reporter to the fake electtors electors that convened to vote for roof, they said that it was breeched in rural Coffee County. Fulton County District attorney Fanny Fani Willis wants to trial all 19 defendants together. We will ask the judge for a trial date within the next six months. Reporter this wasnt just about trumps perfect call with georgia Secretary Of State Brad Raffensperger, in when he encouraged him or pressured him to find more votes. This is about a Pressure Campaign on georgia lawmakers about the illegal accessing of voting data in the rural county. And it was and overall Pressure Campaign by trump and his operatives to overturn the election here in georgia. [ no audio ] there are several pillars that are laid out in the charges that led it together. What was your sense after reading the indictment about the case that was actually brought here . It is an interesting indictment because part of the indictment is based on words spoken by the conspirators and the actions that the people undertook, the breach of the voting machines, the harassment of the workers, the filing of false documents. All of those acts cannot be defended that this was political speech or First Amendment protected. It is those things that will be the hardest to defend against. In a rico indictment of this sort, all they need to prove is that two or more of these acts took place by the conspirators, if so, theyre all legally liable. I think it will be a difficult defense for the trump team to make here. The defense has brought successful rico cases. She knows how no do this. It is complex. It took two and a half years. Shes going to try to try trump and 18 defendants in six months. Reporter do you intend to try all of these defendants together . Do i intent to try the 19 defendants in this indictment together . Yes. That happened, that many folks . The Defense Attorneys persistently make motions for severance. What does that mean. When youre embroiled in an indictment like this, where there is so many, were talking about indictments that are speaking indictments, this indictment is singing. It has so much specific information relative to the criminal enterprise and the criminal activities. What happens . What happens is that there individuals that have individual lawyers im going to move to sever my case because i should be tried separately and independently and there may be acts that may inform criminality to me that i should not be charged with. I think theyll they will try to sever and separate the cases. Were not there yet. The reality is that some defendants may say take priorities. There is one person, donald john trump. That may be much more of a priority. But this indictment is the fourth. And that means there are others, the two federal indictments and then the one in manhattan here in new york. Well see what gets tried first and if anything comes to the other, if jack smith calls and says let me try my cases first. But this will take a significant amount of time to try, for sure. Following up on poppys county and rico charges. It is on a state level and not a federal level. It carries a level of threat to the former president that we have not seen in such in in an accute sense as the others. Can you talk us about that . There are a lot of people in this indictment that are going to seek pleas frequently, some seeking severance, for sure. Rico charge carries mandatory minimums. You must spend time in jail. It is a fiveyear mandatory minimum, maximum of 20 years. So with a mandatory minimum, what will be tricky for fani willis, the District Attorney, let them plead out of the case and let it get skinnied down to the top tier departments so you have a much more manageable trial. Like the state, you make a great point, if he becomes president again, he cannot get rid of a state conviction. And in Georgia Neither can the governor on their own. It has to go to a pardon door . Yes. That is significant. We have the two federal documents and there will be an open question, if he becomes president. Does he pardon himself . Does he have the ability to pardon himself. And you look at the indictment in georgia, you dont have the ability as a federal official even if youre president because the states are so lens sovereigning themselves. If he becomes president , it delays it further and does he go to trial after he serves in office. If he becomes president will this actually stick then will be the question. And now they have to turn themselves to the federal people in georgia. How he may use that to his advantage. That is straight ahead. And there he is. Chaz. The rec leagues selfcrowned pickleball king. Do you just bow down . No you dethrown the king. Pedialyte. 3x the electrolytes. Our ears connect us to the moments that matter. Give them the nutrients they need with lipo. Its formulated with ingredients clinically shown to protect your ears from dizziness, ear ringing, and even hearing loss. Never miss a moment with lipo flavonoid. Swords Clashing had enough . No. Arthritis. Here. Aspercreme arthritis. 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There is Surveillance Video showing a official working were trump attorney inside, you see it here, over a restricted election office. And this feet taken by a journalist said that he walked in on a secret meeting between fake electors that gathered to sign a illegal certification for trump and there is trumps infamous phone to georgia Secretary Of State Brad Raffensperger, which trump himself called perfect. Joining the conversation is patricia murray. I dont think patricia has slept in two years as of this time. I want to talk about the element that make up the indictments and that is the case of ruby freeman and shane moss. I think that sometimes that gets lost in everything. The human. Yes, the Human Element of this h i want to play some sound what Ruby Freemans life has been like. There is nowhere i feel safe, nowhere. Do you know how it feels to have the president of the United States target you . The president of the United States is supposed to represent every american, not to target one. But he targeted me. There has been so many moving parts, not just this case, but the different indictments that the former president is facing. Can you walk people through Ruby Freemans reel here and why it is a central piece of the indictments . Absolutely. Ruby freeman and her daughter shea moss were two Election Workers in 2020 during the elections. And there was video, Surveillance Video taken of the vote counting process. And at certain point during the evening, the owe Election Workers were told by the state office to stop counting and go home. But he changed his mind. That was caught on video. They began to count the votes again. But that video then game the subject of Conspiracy Theories here in georgia and the aftermaths the elections, including run by Rudy Giuliani and donald trump, they both named ruby freeman and shea moss and they say that this has mostly been destroyed by this process. I think it goes to the fact that these were not victimless crimes. This was not just about paperwork. It wasnt just about an election. They are just are just two of the Election Workers in georgia of that been harassed, intimidated and the subject of some of these indictments. Former President Trump on that famous call to the secretary of georgia, he called her a scammer and hustler. And then Rudy Giuliani had something to say. Ruby freeman and Shea Freeman Moss and one other gentlemen started passing around us about ports saying they were vials of heroin or cocaine. It is obvious they are involves in illegal activity that day. As of a week ago, theyre still Walking Around georgia lying. They should have been questioned already. Theyre places of work and homes should have been searched. He is accusing them of crime. The words are used to charge him with the crime. As they should be. Words have consequences and conduct has consequences. And when you have someone who propagating a narrative that knows that it is false and theyre doing in conjunction with the criminal enterprise with other people surrounded by them, all engaged in a concerted effort to overturn an election, that is problematic. You cannot go and say things in public. Well, you can but if they are harming and not true, they can come back. You can say that Rudy Giuliani can legally say things like that explain how it becomes a crime. Explain how it becomes a rico when it is furtherance of and in coordination with the, with the other actions . Lets talk about rico. In the rico statue, which is a broad ranging statue which points to a criminal enterprise. You need at least two. You can talk about the pattern accounts with respect to the computer tampering. You can talk about them in in terms of mr. Rudy giuliani intimidating witnesses. The indictment speaks to a lot of that. So there are pattern acts that deal with that and then you have, in terms of the conspiracy, which are two or more people that degree to an agreement. You can conspire with a team and criminal enterprise to do some nasty things with verbal conduct. The Text Messages and other communication that led to that. You mentioned the call between the former president and the former georgia Secretary Of State Brad Raffensperger. Everyone knows his comments about finding 11,000 plus votes, essentially one vote that he was losing by at that point. The defense from trumps supporters and some legal officials that are tide to his operation has been, you can not prove that he meant to familiarsly to falsely find fake votes or ment to find legitimate votes. Is that viable . It is viable you can make in the court of law without it being called frivolous. I think what they will say is that he did not undertake these phone calls with criminal intent or wilfulness because he was doing this in good faith because he honestly believed that he won the election and it was stolen from him. That is the nature of their defense. This indictment as we talked about, other things beyond that phone call, that are not speech protected. They are actions and those actions have no First Amendment overlay to them and they are not easily defended. As we talk about the ruby freeman stuff, Rudy Giuliani was sued for the statement. He admitted they were lights and not true. He said that he didnt believe he owes her money. This is an acknowledgment that will come in in evidence in this case. It proves this aspect of the indictment. That is a very good point. Stay with us. Well have you back with the next panel. There is a lot to dig into here, including the names that you very much home in at this pointed, Rudy Giuliani, meadows, east man, powell. But there are others that you may not have heard of. Next a look at all 18 codefendants named in the indictment and theheir alleged roles. Stay with us. josh allen another amazing plan, backing away from here very slowly. fan 1 that was josh allen. fan 2 mmhm. vo for a limited time get Nfl Sunday Ticket from youtubetv on us. A 449 value. Plus, get a free Samsung Galaxy z flip5. Only on verizon. Amazon has great deals on Everything Kids need. Instead of spending more, he spent less. Emed obvious. Why would a person spend more money . Hes eight and he gets it. Im 10. Well, thats le impressive. Rsv can be a dangerous virus. [sneeze]. For those 60 and older. Its not just a cold. And if youre 60 or older. You may be at increased risk of hospitalization. [coughing]. From this highly. Contagious virus. Not all dangers come with warning labels. 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Is it the local political people that you would know so well. Explain who matters and why. The names that jump out to us, of course, are david sheaffer, who is the sitting Republican Party chairman during the time for the state of georgia and also shawn still is a sitting member of the georgia general assembly. There is kathy l lathe m were in a way private citizens. These are not headline making names. You may know them in the Grocery Store. But these are not famous people here in georgia. These are peoples neighbors and friends. And this entire process, since 2020, has swept georgians up into Donald Trumps conspiracies in a way that is just totally unprecedented. As the indictments go forward, this will be a difficult part of this process for people here in georgia to see people they know privately swept up in this Huge International story. I want to talk about mark meadows in all of this, he is the highest ranking white house official charged in the georgia indictment outside of trump, hes charged with solicitation of the violation of office as a public office, him being on that phone call with georgia Secretary Of State Brad Raffensperger, when he was asked to find the votes. He did not answer questions. He took the fifth over and over again when asked questions before them. But hes not indicted federally in jack smiths cases. But he is in this. What does that tell you . Well, i have to say this was the Biggest Surprise for me when i opened up the indictment and i saw mark meadows name there. I assumed he was cooperating with the federal prosecutors and the state prosecutors. So we dont know i guess who the identity of Indicted Conspirator jack smith. Is mark meadows . But if these cooperating in the federal indicate and not the state case, that creates problems for both sets of prosecutors. He cannot take the stand in a federal case that could be against him in the state case. They have to get this in line so jack smith doesnt hurt them in both. Did they talk about mark meadows role in all of this stuff . I think so. In the federal state investigations that i was involved in when i was a prosecutor, we always coordinated with the state people when we were bringing our federal cases forward. I would be surprised if there wasnt this federal state cooperation in this case. But this indictment contained mark meadows and the federal indictment that doesnt, raises questions if there was some slippage between these two prosecutor teams and thats to be resolved now. That is such a great point. But it dominated the story, ask this question to fani willis last night. I think it was a week or ten days ago and fani willis asked if she had been working with the Special Counsel office. She said that she would not recognize him if she saw him in the Grocery Store and she said no. This is what she said last night. Have you had contact with the Special Contact with the overlap of these two cases and do you intend to try all of these defendants together . Do i intend to try the 19 defendants in this indictment together . Yes. Yes. Have you had any talk with the Special Counsel . Im not going to answer anything about our investigation at this time. I assume they have being talking it, given the scale of the overlap here. The second one you would think answer or need to communicate to some degree so you dont overlap. Is it important, though, of course, to have independence of the investigation. So the state has to move forward. They have, of course, they im impaneled The Grand Jury. You want to make sure that your witnesses are solid and the feds have their witnesses. It doesnt mean they cannot speak with each other and see what information they can. They totally can. Absolutely. Thank you guys. 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It doesnt matter if youre rich, poor, black, white, democrat or republican, if you violated the law, youre going to be charged. Reporter Fulton County District Attorney fani willis talking about her decision to indict president in an attempt to influence the 2020 election. This is after a phone call with georgia Secretary Of State Brad Raffensperger after the election. I just want to find 11,000, 780 11,780 votes. Reporter when that call was made, willis had been in office for one day. We have been investigating this for two and a half years. Were ready to go. Reporter ready to go and in the Process Ruffling Donald Trumps feathers. This woman is not a capable woman. Shes a racist. This is a person that wants to indict me. Reporter the accusations of racism unfound the. Donald trump also included her in this ad called the mud squad. It is rick list ridiculous. But i support his right to his First Amendment rights. Ive never been called the n word so much in my life. Reporter willis was voted Fulton County first female District Attorney after ousting a six personal primary. She was the leading prosecute in the georgia cheating school scandal. She went after gangs like drug rich. And she handed down racketeer and influence indictments to popular rappers including young thug. Willis cited the rappers Song Lick Lyrics in the case. She was born in california. Her name meetings prosperous. After mer parents divorce, she was raced raised primarily from her father who was a lawyer. She graduated from Emery School Of Law in 1996, she worked in the private sector for a time and then joins the Fulton County Prosecutors Office in 2001. Since she became District Attorney, her Office Conviction Race stands at 90 . Im going to do the job that im blessed to be able to do. A former Chief Of Staff mark meadows facing his first indictment in the 2020 election. What it could memean in this ca and others. That is coming up nextxt. Former President Trump facing 90 charges in florida, california, new york, and washington d. C. And now in georgia. It is related to the elections. He has till august 25th to turn himself back in. The first debate is next wednesday. We have the former advisor to president clinton. Next week is a big week. There is a Republican Debate that trump may or may not participate in. He and other 18 other folks have to turn themselves on thee these charges. Is this any different than the others . The others have not hurt his support, even bolstered this. It will not. That is twofold. Every time that donald trump has been indicted, ill say this has a bizarre statement, it bolsters donald trump because it resources and this showers sures up his message. When your own opponents, the people running against you fail to criticize you, that bowl bolsters you there as well. This case is different. And well see if it makes the republican candidates running against donald trump run against him move from running against him in theory and do it in practice and do this what they would do in any other opponent in any other race and than is criticize him. The number two guy has had a rough couple of months, ron desantis. Doug captures the point ive been fixated on over the course of several months now keep in mind over the course of four months trump has been indicted in four different times in four different places. But the New York Times has a great piece. They say that the nation got Driving Under The Influence and now one of the two major partieses have not ruled out a Front Run Conspiring Democracy And Obstructing justice and falsifying records of hush money to a pornographic film star. Is it just because it is so much that everybody has tuned out and or is numb . It served as tough love to this point is. I think the gop base is behind donald trump. And they will not say anything to confront him directly. They will do it firstly to us many times but not publicly to make a break from the former president. When you look at the general election, i think it is having an impact. I was just talking to a republican voter in arizona, a swing state, another state that is looking into a fake elector scheme. They said they voted for President Biden in 2020. One of those moderate republicans that broke for biden in that swing state last go around. I checked in to see if they soured on President Biden and leaning back the republican way given the cast of candidates that the voters have to choose from, and they said no. Any of the other republicans that have a shot to take him on are not confronting him. So he said there is no one there that he felt he could vote for. You were a former advisor to bill clinton. Hillary clinton talks about this. President biden cannot really talk about this because this justice accident is at the helm of the federal probes. But Hillary Clinton did weigh in. It is hard to believe. I dont feel any satisfaction. I just feel great profound sadness that we have a former president who has been indicted for so many charges that went right to the heart of whether or not our democracy would survive. Your thoughts on this because were not going to hear this from President Biden . I think hillary should have won. She lost fair and square by. Electoral college. The president cannot and must not and will not talk about this. I think that is smart. Biden has to stay out of it. I could have slept in. She had exactly the point i make. We keep obsessing, i hope shes not listening. We look at how bulletproof trumps base is. Why isnt this cracking him . That is the wrong question. He deep deepening the support of the same minority of americans. It is not the majority. We should not ask does this deepen his support. We should ask does it broaden it . Not a single day did he have the majority of support. Lincoln was right, you can fool some of the people some of the time but you cannot fool all the people all of the time. It may make him unelectable in the general election. To that point, this is like the fifth thing ive said ive been fixated on. You talked to white house officials and the campaign officials, this point is the theory of the case this is where the Republican Party is. This is where the Republican Base is. When you have these issues and then you add to them the roe v. Wade issue which has been dramatically moving up on the Democratic State level. Theyre are not all the sudden going to shift back to trump if hes the nominee. And yet President Biden remained virtually tide with donald trump in every poll. Why . I think it is because of the fact that hes just not in the news as much right now. And they are letting republicans argue among themselves and the indictment of the form we were president take up the airspace i think they will ultimately help the president what he starts fully campaigning next year. That is their explanation. Weve seen, as we get closer to at the time election time, that ultimately that Enthusiasm Gap and shrink and democrats appear galvanized around the issues that you just laid out, phil. They expect him to come home, they do eventually. Yes. Thank you very much to all of you. Donald trump and the 18 others indicted in georgia have ten days to turn themselves in. More of our breaking News Coverage right ahead. And well speak to someone who testified in front of The Grand Jury. That is coming up. With 30 grams of protein. Those who tried me felt more energy in just two weeks uuuhhhh. Here, ill take that woohoo ensure max protein, 30 grams of protein, 1 gram of sugar. Enter the 10,000 powered by protein max challenge. 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We look at the facts. We look at the law. And we bring charges. She didnt throw the book at him. She threw the library. Now having another indictment for him, questioning the integrity of this countrys elections. Thats what were doing to a president that served this

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