and some of the other issues just like he's campaigning on issues that are favorable for republicans. democrats will do the same, but i also think that the president has an opportunity interrelated, continue on the contrast message and donald trump is talking about retribution and revenge while president biden's out in france giving speeches about democracy and honoring our soldiers that lothar buys on d-day 80 years ago christine, you run a very fascinating, important piece article and i'm quoting now from your article, prison time is the real factor in the trump verdicts impact on 2024. >> why is that and does that mean if trump isn't sentenced to prison, voters might not care about his it's conviction so right now, the couple of polls that we've seen, including ones my own firm has done, have shown a little bit of movement in favor of joe biden. >> my polling has shown it mostly from undecided voters deciding to break for biden in the wake of this verdict. but it's still very small on the margins that helps but ultimately it's not a 567

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