others decide, but something had to be done separately, but similar in terms of a political issue biden at least kind of privately, although he knew it would be reported has referred to trump as a convicted felon. >> yeah. i think the big question is, is that going to happen in the debate? >> is he going to start bringing them out in public? >> what do you what do you think is going to happen? not only convicted felon, but just in the past last week, right? i looked back to see some of the things that he said. it doesn't past couple of days, he said that donald trump snapped. he described donald trump as being unhinged last week. he said, when donald trump attack the jury that it was reckless and dangerous address clearly trying to cement it in people's brains that maybe donald trump isn't playing with a full deck, so to speak, much like donald trump's doing same thing to joe biden. >> yeah. we've seen those ads. i mean, i think about that robert de niro add that came out in the last couple of weeks where it really kind of crazy crystallite that message, crystallize that message. you're talking about, and it shows the pictures of him,

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