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Section. Carol i enjoyed it and learned a lot. It is this weeks cover story. Bloomberg businessweek editor joel weber joint is now. Joins us now. Private equity touches us in so many ways. Joel we couldnt keep listening to jason go on and on. When we got together about the different ways private equity touches us, we realize there was a bigger story here, which was in the last decade, since the financial crisis, nobody won this decade as much as private equity. Jason now weve got questions and thats how this story shaped up. You posed them to a lot of us in the newsroom. Joel we realized there was a lot of different places we want to go. The fact d. C. Has carried interest. So far, thats bit untouchable. If things change in d. C. , we might see that change. Carol we did see lobbying in terms of private equity firms. They are spending tons of money. Joel tons of money. Also returns. Everyone wants big returns. A World Without yield anywhere, how do i get roi . Private equity promises that. Jason some institutions have been happy from a return perspective. Its grown so massive, but that scale and that size, there are a lot of consequences, some intended, some not. Joel for the average consumer, you dont know the different ways private equity can touch your life. From the cups of coffee you drink, to your pets, to even light, if you have a pension, like, if you have a pension the whole point of the pension, youve got to get the returns. Private equity is one of the places people turn to. Jason one of the things we talked a lot about is their influence around the world, the individuals who run this firm, they are in the midst of the most important conversation of our time. Joel donald trump talking to Steve Schwarzman about china. Something else we notice, private Equity Industry dominated by men. Carol exactly. I love the coverage because i do feel we need more transparency. Joel its what we set out to do. Carol its a great cover story. Joel weber, thank you so much. More on equity later on. We turn to the week so far in politics. Jason an ongoing impeachment inquiry, subpoenas for Rudy Giuliani and the state department, and as 2020 looms, that big election, Elizabeth Warren taking a step forward in some polls. Carol josh greene joining us from washington. Josh, what a week its been, and i think were starting to figure out, will this have some implications for the 2020 elections . Josh well, i think almost certainly will. Its funny, every week we finish up by saying what a week in washington. Yet this one stood out apart from earlier ones because we now have a fastmoving democratic impeachment inquiry that is very serious moving forward, very quickly, has ensnared the president and a lot of his cabinet officials. Democrats seem to think this week they have momentum going forward. Theres a good chance they are going to impeach the president. What effect that will have on the election, on the markets, nobody has any idea. The big news affecting markets was the slow down in manufacturing data and the rising chance of a recession, anything involving donald trump. As ive learned through hard experience in washington, never assume anything. Next week could be different. This week, impeachment took center stage. It is dominating everything. Jason ive got to ask you, as Elizabeth Warren has been descendent. I think to that cover story you wrote where you reminded all of us, hey, dont sleep on Elizabeth Warren here. Josh no, ive been bullish on Elizabeth Warren since before it was popular. I pitched that cover story in september when she was in single digits, got some quizzical looks from my editor. Part of the reason we did that was because warren has a lot of candidate skills. Theres a lot about what shes doing that appeals to grassroots democratic voters. I see it on the ground when i travel with her in iowa, new hampshire. Now i think were seeing that reflected in the polls. Especially as joe biden has started to stumble, Bernie Sanders had a health scare, warren is the one who has now emerged, were calling her in washington a cofront runner. But if you look at the polls, she may be a narrow front runner overall for the nomination. Carol thats what i want to follow up on. You spent time with various candidates. Joe biden, this story, every time you talk about president trump, joe biden also comes up, and of course his son. What does this mean for him . Is he done in terms of this campaign or that is too soon to call . Josh i dont think joe biden is done by a long measure. Trump, despite the fact hes gotten himself in a lot of trouble, did this in part because he was trying to advance a story he believed would damage his chief rival, joe biden. We can see from poll numbers its put trump and some kind of jeopardy. We dont yet see in the poll numbers that it has cost biden. Politico came out with a poll showing 40 of voters still consider biden to be the most electable democrat. Thats actually up a tick from the last time. It isnt hurting biden yet and hes not just a viable democratic candidate, i think, but certainly one of the two most likely to win the nomination. Carol josh greene in washington, thank you so much. Jason Rudy Giuliani at the center of the impeachment inquiry. Carol weapons manufacturer staffed by trump supporters, selling attack drones to the u. S. Government. Jason this is Bloomberg Businessweek. Next, let us look at a supplement land. They cover the same things as medicare and covering your medicare deductibles and coinsurance. They often have higher monthly premiums and no Prescription Drug coverage. If you are on part d doug drug coverage or on original medicare it means an extra premium. Now, let us take a look at humanas Medicare Advantage plan. With a that a care plan, hospital stays, dr. 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His actions are at the heart of the impeachment inquiry. Jason Stephanie Baker has been following this story closely. She joined us from london. Stephanie this how subpoena for house subpoena for communications and documents from Rudy Giuliani will be central to the impeachment inquiry. They have asked for documents and Communications Related to a long list of the ukrainian politicians and businessmen he has done consulting contracts with, as well as politicians he has met with up to the crucial call between trump and the ukrainian president , volodymyr zelensky, which is at the heart of the impeachment inquiry. He has resisted, or he seems to be resisting efforts to disclose those communications. He hasnt said officially whether or not he will comply with the subpoena, but he has intimated that there are attorneyclient privileges at stake here. And i think thats going to be a difficult one for him to fight, given that much of what theyve asked for doesnt really pertain to his role as a lawyer for donald trump. Carol and thats what complicates this whole situation youre right about. His role within the white house, its ambiguous, right, official, not official. There are times he said he spoke with understanding or an ok from the state apartment. His role is a weird one. Stephanie exactly. And thats why this will be so fraught. Hes cycled in and out of the white house wearing multiple hats while he was defending trump in the special counsels investigation into russian interference in the 2016 election. He was wearing the hat of trumps personal lawyer, unpaid. At the same time, he was continuing with his private Security Consulting work. And then later, when muellers report was released, we learned he was effectively trumps shadow diplomat, making overtures to ukrainian prosecutors, as well as ukrainian aides around the ukrainian president. And so whether or not he will be able to withstand this subpoena and effectively fight it off really depends on which rudy are we talking about . Which hat is he wearing . And that will be interesting to follow. Carol what are you hearing about his ability to claim hey, i am the president s lawyer, attorneyclient privilege. How much will that maybe not protect them going forward, certainly with the inquiry . Stephanie hes been on cable news shows talking about this for months. Its hard to claim attorneyclient privilege on issues where hes actually commented at length in the press. And two, i think its hard for him to argue, or he will argue it, but i think it will be difficult for him to argue that this really pertains to an ongoing, or at the time, that it pertains to an ongoing legal matter for his client, trump. At that point, the Mueller Investigation had wrapped up and his role was unclear. So, it depends on which lawyer you talk to. I think some of it may be protected, but others i think wont. The question is, will the house investigators have the stamina and the wherewithal to fight it out . And it could take a long time. Carol the other thing really interesting is you mention, as you said earlier, that Rudy Giuliani kept working his business, right . He didnt stop any of those relationships or contracts. And some of those contracts included a few in ukraine, correct . Stephanie yes, so i wrote a story for businessweek about Rudy Giulianis Security Consulting business and how he was continuing to do that while serving first as trumps cybersecurity advisor and personal lawyer. And hes continued to do that, both in the ukraine i think the last meeting he had on the Ukrainian Security contract was in march, 2018. If it had gone further than that, we dont know. But he has continued to do business around the world and that is the subject of this house subpoena. They want records of his business dealings with these ukrainian businessmen and records of any payments he has received. Carol heres a story thats got a little bit of everything in our Technology Section. Jason one of techs most controversial startups, founded by a gamer, backed by one of president trumps favorite billionaires, and makes drones that destroy drones sold to the u. S. Military. Carol heres joshua with that story. Josh the company is called andrew and it describes itself as aspiring to be the operating system of the defense department, which would basically be the software that kind of connects all the systems, whether those are surveillance cameras and dashcams on jeeps or aircraft carriers. And so thats a big goal, but theyve started small, as you do. Their first appointment was with deployment was with customs and Border Protection on the Mexican Border. Which is, in and of itself, a pretty controversial place to start, and things have taken off from there. Every ingredient of controversy is here. The founder is a guy named Palmer Luckey. He founded the oculus rift headset. Theres this piece of technology, bought by facebook for 2 million. Right before the election, pick it came out that Palmer Luckey was secretly finding a group that was posting insulting billboards of hillary clinton. Suddenly he disappeared. He said he was fired. Mark zuckerberg said he was not fired for political reasons. Its been a snafu for facebook. Palmer luckey has this reputation as the trumpiest person in Silicon Valley. Then he starts a company, whose first project is surveilling the Mexican Border right at the time the trump border policies are really building up. And that immediately fed into a debate on should tech be refusing to build things like this . Then you have the trump administration, already causing trouble in Silicon Valley and border surveillance, and they jumped into that. Jason one of the models of Silicon Valley of late is being connected to founders find and fund and the folks associated in that orbit. How does that play into this story . Josh Founders Fund is the Investment Fund founded by peter thiel, who backed the president in the 2016 election. Hes the other technologist most associated with donald trump. And he has an uneasy relationship with peter thiel. Ive talked to them a lot. They really want to say he had nothing to do with this story. This company. They say its just an Investment Fund and they happen to be one of our investors. They really want to play it down. At the same time, this fits into some of his other business interests. Carol talk to us about the work theyre doing. The story opens up with one of the engineers and hes playing around or showing how their drones can work. Tell us about that. Josh yeah, so the actual project my story focuses on is called an interceptor and its basically a drone that at will fly intosly other drones and not them out of the air. The idea is that cheap drones are being used in increasing number of military ways. Carol as we saw in saudi arabia. Josh as we saw in saudi arabia, although those are larger drones. We have seen them used in excess in in assassination attempts, in various attacks. The idea is we could build drones and put the software on the and tell them anything that reaches this airspace, ran into ran hes this airspace, ram into it until it falls down. And they think this is a cheap and relatively easy solution to patrol borders, military bases, and maybe other places. They had discussions from selling them to clients. They have put their foot slightly into another hot button debate in Silicon Valley, which is whether we should build autonomous weaponry. And if so, what regulations and so on should be in place . His answer is clearly yes, we should build this weaponry. They refer to it as a semiautonomous weapon. At the moment, they do have safeguards in place. You do have to identify the target and show them a picture and ask someone whether or not to attack. Carol also an investor in lp. Just to put that out there. Jason coming up, delta climbing higher. The ceo talks about expanding the companys global footprint. Carol inside wework. How the Company Contributed to its fallout. This is Bloomberg Businessweek. 91 fm and washington, d. C. Jason a. M. 960 in the bay area, on london in dab digital radio, and on the Bloomberg Radio app. Carol we caught up with delta, and its been outperforming its peers and doing deals. Well hear from him in a moment. Jason lets hear from someone who will talk to us about one region were delta was doing great, and now may need to make moves. Kailey and delta is making moves, 2. 25 billion investment, the biggest carrier in latin america. Take a look at how delta has performed. It is a higher growth area and at one point earlier, its all doubledigit sales growth. But the pace has slowed to one 1. 5 year on year in 2018. Now the deal may make delta the largest carrier in south america, replacing them to capitalize on higher growth and see sales growth start to improve. Carol and expand their growth. Thank you. Delta is among the worlds Biggest Airlines and has invested to strengthen those ties, and that includes the recent deal we just talked about. Jason delta ceo told us what it takes to win abroad and if he sees more consolidation in the industry. Ed i dont think youll see consolidation in a meaningful way. You may see it and other parts, maybe not participating relative to delta. Internationally, i do think youll see it. In europe, youre already seeing it. Youre seeing bankruptcies. Well see consolidation trends. On the global scene, thats where weve invested. Weve invested in our partners. Its more to have influences within our Global Network of carriers. Youll see more from delta potentially, but i dont think on the u. S. Side. Jason what do those partnerships look like now . And what might they look like in the future, either geographically, or are there new or Different Things you can try to create that family, as it work . As it work . Ed sure. One of the things that has not been successful are the alliances. Sky team alliance, i dont think weve brought a lot of great value to customers. I dont think weve brought great values to our member airlines. Were going at this thing in a different approach, making bilateral investments in the most important partners. We under 49 of Virgin Atlantic, we own 49 of Virgin Atlantic the two closest carriers to , either side of the country. Were invested in air france, klm, invested in gold in brazil. As a consequence, what you see is this network of influence that were having within those companies. This Companies Want to know what those Companies Want to know what delta has learned about Operational Efficiency and prowess. We want to learn what it takes to win those local markets. And then over time, while we cant own them in terms of consolidation, we can have meaningful investment that we created an network of carriers that will be uniquely tied, where you have delta as the centerpiece. Thats our goal. When you think of the longterm, we serve 200 million customers a year. If you look at the customers from all those carriers, youre up to over 500 million customers here. An airlineever been network. Forget consolidation, that delivers that kind of value across geographies. We have an opportunity to create that. Jason do you have people knocking on your door saying why dont you come over and speckle that magic dust on me . Ed theres a lot of questions at all times. We answer every not. We answer every knock. Sometimes we say no, we cant do that. Theres a strategy thats unique. I think thats an advantage for delta. Jason lets talk about your customers, both business and consumer. I dont want to put words in your mouth, but a little bit of weakness from a business perspective from the asian markets, overall. Generally, businesses it feels like, or a little bit cautious right now, globally, maybe for geopolitical reasons. We certainly heard that through earnings reports from some companies. What do you see . Ed i see a healthy u. S. Consumer. Consumer demand is very, very healthy in the u. S. We just finished the busiest summer in our history by a by name meaningful amount. Revenue is up 7 year on year. There were also up the year prior. We are within the fortune 100, in the top quartile of growth companies, and weve been there the last couple years. People dont expect delta to be seen at that level. Were seeing a lot of growth in travel. Jason you can see the full interview online at businessweek. Com, or listen to it via podcast. Get that in our feet. Feed. Carol up next, private equity having a moment. Jason wheres the money to be made, whos making it, and how . Carol this is Bloomberg Businessweek. His book, why you should shut up and listen. Jason never, never. But we begin with the big picture on pe. It is this weeks cover story in a special section takeover of the finance section. 4 trillion in assets, private equity is everywhere. Carol from your pet shop to your dentist office. But how does private equity make money . Here is this weeks explainer. Jason private equity is not that complicated. Managers raise money from limited partners, the wealth funds looking for places to invest. Next, the firm identifies a takeover target. Managers take a chunk of the money they raised, called equity, and pair that with borrowed money. That pays for the purchase. In an ideal world, the firm owns the company for a few years and sells it for a profit. They distribute the winnings to investors and keeps a healthy portion for itself. Investors agreed to a structure known as 2 and 20. They paid 2 of the assets to help fund the operations. The real money comes from the 20. After distributing 80 of profit to investors, the firm keeps 20 for itself. Carol that is the mechanics of private equity. Lets talk about why we are doing this. You have been involved in coverage from day one. Jason this was important for a couple of reasons. One, to take a step back and realize the influence these firms and individuals have across the political landscape, certainly the economic and business landscape. And it has come to politics in a big way as we get closer to 2020 and issues of inequality and where money is coming from. Issues of who is making the money. Carol a little bit more transparency is what we want. We will continue to cover it here on this addition of edition of businessweek. Now, lets get to a story in the Technology Section about a company that was the subject of a recent cover story, wework. Jason we kicked off 2019 with the expectation that it would be one of the hottest ipos of the year, until it wasnt. For a variety of reasons including governance and a lack of profitability. Carol we hear how the issues may have stemmed from the companys own culture. Attention on the company has evolved as it has become bigger and bigger. Like you said, it got this round of funding from softbank that valued at 47 billion. All of a sudden, a huge company. As it prepared to go public, thats when people started looking at it, thinking, is this Company Ready . It feels like at each turn, there is more that is revealed. There are not huge surprises for someone who has covered them for so long. I think the culture has been consistent. But it is interesting to see how investors have viewed the conflicts of interest, Corporate Governance structures, personalities at the top, and not always reacted favorably. Carol family was a big element of his company and ultimately part of its undoing. How did all of this go under the radar for such a long time . It is interesting. There are two ways to look at the role family plays in wework. This has always been a company about communal spirit. Remember they had Community Adjusted financial metrics they used earlier. It has been part of their ethos. They talk about how life is better together, make a life, not a living. They bring work and life together and that ends up blending personal and professional. And the people at the top, adam and rebecca newman, the people who helped run wework are very comfortable having family ties play a big role. Obviously, adam and rebecca are married. When you look at the origin story, it is adam and miguel, the other cofounder, and then rebecca emerges as someone with a cofounder title. This is not something they discussed, but she became more important as the Company Became bigger. Beyond that as we mentioned, there are a lot of other family ties. Rebeccas cousin was the head of real estate for a long time. His parents ran the summer camp where they used to have summer retreats. His brotherinlaw worked as vice chair. There were others disclosed in the s1. His brotherinlaw ran the gym and fitness offerings. Another Family Member paid for some of the live events they put on. It goes on and on. There are people who are personal friends who work at wework. So he feels a strong sense of loyalty to people. This is something his wife has described in interviews. It comes out in how he chooses to do his professional dealings. They were, at least at the top, comfortable with strong personal ties among the executive team. Carol still ahead, gender equality and private equality, or should i say lack thereof. Jason plus, a new scale to measure wealth. This is Bloomberg Businessweek. Jason welcome back to Bloomberg Businessweek. Carol join us every day on the radio starting at 2 p. M. Wall street time. You can also catch up on our daily show by listening to our podcast. Jason and find us online at businessweek. Com and through our mobile app. Carol we continue with our takeover of the finance section. Jason speaking of takeover, those in the industry amount to a small group of the economic elite. Carol and they are mostly men. We asked the question, where are the women . I looked at the top 10 ferns firms by assets and tried to look at the number of women making these investments. What i found is there are very few women and most only have one or two on these teams made up of dozens of investment professionals. Carol we need to talk about the Financial Community overall. Are they kind of the same or is it worse . According to a study earlier this year, it was mostly asset managers. I dont think they included banks them but they compared but they compared private equity to hedge funds and looks like they have worse representation then even those industries which are known for not having women. And most women are in Investor Relations and marketing. Jason this is only going to change if the source of money decides that it is important. Thats where we saw the movement on sg and governance issues and fees. So far, does not feel like the limited partners are pushing that hard. No they are not. They are being vocal and asking questions and Board Members are starting to ask more questions. But the limited Partners Association put together a checklist, basically, to get more information on diversity numbers. Jason one thing that is institutionalized is the fact that the money has just been so good and investors have been happy with what they have getting back. Carol and with bonds paying little, Institutional Investors are desperate for the study, steady high returns that Equity Managers have been able to deliver. If you look over 25 years and compare how private equity has done to the public market, you would see a 13 gain from private equity versus 9 from the public market. Carol so better. Over 25 years . Yeah. Quite good returns. Carol they are not priced every day, theres not a lot of transparency. Can we take that at face value . Warren buffett had mentioned some of the concerns with the space, saying the math is not always honest. So there are a number of concerns with how these terms returns are calculated. One is the math around the internal rate of return. It is a key metric investors use to gauge how private equity funds are doing. The math around that is the shorter amount of time you can invest actual money of the better returns will look. Money, the better returns will look. Sometimes, they can invest the leverage capital, and at a later date called the actual money, but thats a work which shortens the amount of time and can pump up a return by three percentage points. Carol because it is a shorter duration. Private Equity Investments are multiple years. Yes. That is interesting carol that is interesting. It is not always sitting in the offices, it is waiting until they find an investment in the they tapped the pool. Precisely. Jason it has created a a lot of wealth for investors and individuals who run the firm. And as a result, some critics blame pe for exacerbating todays wealth gap. Carol so to better evaluate wealth, we have more on a new index to pinpoint ones wealth. One million is onetimes 10 to the sixth. 1000 is 10 to the third power, so that makes you a three. Most people watching this are worth more than a thousand dollars, we hope. But that gets it. All the way down to 2, which is one penny. So everybody from a negative two on up to an 11 is on the scale. Jason 11 is a bezos. There are only two people in the world who right now are 11. There was another one, a french billionaire, but alas, he is below. Jason now hes just a 10. Carol thats what i love about it. You grow up and think i want to be a seven. Jason you are a 10. Carol thank you. It does create this metric. Engendering jealousy is not the point. It is really just a metric to be used for good or ill. Jason why do you think this is important . Did i say it was important . [laughter] seriously, like any scientific measure, it gives you more specificity. It is just one order of magnitude rather than three. Jason it is important going back to Elizabeth Warren. We are having a much more serious conversation about the haves and havenots. But it is not necessarily binary. Sometimes it feels that way, but ultimately, when policy comes from politics, there are going to have to be decisions made about tax rates and reaching certain thresholds. I like what you said about have and havenots. That is very binary. And yet there are gradations. To somebody living on the street in a cardboard box, a person with 1000 in the bank seems incredibly wealthy. Carol up next, what to do if you crash your 3 million body. Bugati. Jason and advice on taking risk. Carol this is Bloomberg Businessweek. Carol welcome back to Bloomberg Businessweek. Jason you can also listen to us on the radio on sirius xm channel 119, and on a. M. 1130 in new york, 106. 1 in boston, 99. 1 f. M. In washington, d. C. Carol a. M. 960 in the bay area, in london on dab digital, and of course, on the Bloomberg Business app. Jason taking risks is something Michael Tennenbaum has managed most of his life. Carol he writes about it in his new book, and in it, he talks about why that approach made him successful doing deals and literally swimming with sharks. Michael when i went to wall street at the beginning of 1962, a couple of classmates went to morgan stanley. They told me their net worth was 5 million. They did not take risks. Once they were in a good club, they were in. This changed over time as the Commission Structure eroded and the income and profits of wall street were attacked. They had to take more risks and thats how they survived. They put their money at risk to get transactions, block trades, for example. Risk then became, i think, almost a central idea of wall street and universal banks. Jason you took what many would say is the biggest risk of your professional career, which is you were in california time, hanging out, leaving a lucrative career at a big wall street firm and starting your own shop. You capture that moment and its a great moment between you and your wife. Looking out at the water, and she knows you well enough to well enough to say, listen, youve got to do this. What convinced you this was the right move . Michael when i was young, i used to like to swim. I dove off the low board a lot. Now and then, i went off to the high board. You would walk off, say why am i doing this . You did not want to climb back down the ladder. Sometimes you did. It was like that, i was so tempted to leave, i hated the climate in the 90s. But every time i got out to the end of the board, i looked down. Finally, i said it was enough. I think she was afraid i would retire and hang around the house. Carol got to do something. Michael right . I took fridays at the house, so she would go to town on friday. Jason what did you see in terms of opportunities . You mention something in 1976. Fastforward 25 years later, you saw an opportunity around the distress and a new form of investing. What was it . Michael a number of people have reviewed my book and says it has a lot of candor so i have to begin. To be candid. I did not know what the hell i was doing. [laughter] its simple. I hired to brilliant young men. I hired two brilliant young men. We sat around and discuss strategies and they were not good. But i was always a contrarian investor. So i uncovered opportunities that were cheap. I made a lot of money for wealthy people. I would go to them and say we are going to buy this and we want you to come in with us. None of them would do it. So we did it and we made a lot of money. Then i thought, dummy, you are a contrarian investor, what does that mean . So i started a fund. He might say i got the memo very late. Jason and in another book, the ceo and owner of the houston rockets, he talks about all of those things. His book is called shut up and listen. It is a pretty powerful series of lessons. When things start slowing down, it is an opportunistic time. Even right now, i just bought a very successful Restaurant Company out of bankruptcy. It has nothing to do with the success of the individual restaurants. They are very successful, it is just the fact that, once again, the old peter principle. Poor management has done a poor job in setting up the capital structure of these restaurants or did major mistakes of the corporate level. Therefore, it is a very opportunistic time for me because that is how i have grown. That is why you build liquidity and your Balance Sheet in good times. You dont have to acquisitions in your good times. You eat the weak and the bad times in the bad times. Jason you talk about having capital to run your business and take advantage. Tilman why pay a huge multiple when everybody is trying to do it . Why not wait until a dip in the economy, which always happens. Jason before we wrap up, something we all know a little bit about them unfortunately, vendor benders. Benders. Er carol it takes on a whole new meaning when your ride is a 3 million supercar. Jason we have advice for when you crash your bugatti. You will call them directly and say you may want to send a truck. And then the car will be sent back to france. And you arent going to see it for a while. It will be some months. Jason i have to say, this is even more intense than maybe i thought it would be. Its pretty intense. Lamborghini has a program called the flying doctors where they have engineers they deployed anywhere there is a major crash from one of their valuable owners. Those guys will strip the car down to basically nothing. Gradually graphed in new layers, layers, buildw new components on site. Anything needed. Or lamborghini will shift the car to seattle, and in their labs, repair their, so you are dealing there, so you are dealing with things most shops dont have. Carol how much does this cost . Do you file claims with your insurance . It is a casebycase business. Basis. None of the guys i spoke to really wanted to share with me their insurance numbers and that sort of thing. I was told insurance didnt cover repair for the bugatti that was hit by the uber driver. Another told me that if they are under 200,000, he was not reported. He is not going to report it. Its not worth it proportionally. If the car is worth a couple million dollars, its really not worth it. I spoke to guys at haggerty and they said this was a touchy subject, casebycase thing. To get a quote on this, you are talking thousands of dollars just per month. Jason it is a reminder that its one thing to be able to afford a car just to buy, but the ongoing maintenance even outside of a crash is massive. It is incredible. For one example, a mclaren f1, they said it is a special car built in the 90s. They estimate that just maintenance is 30,000 a year. And they recommend each year sending the car back to the factory in england for oil changes, break checks, realignment. Anything you might need on a regular car. It will cost so much more and they will do a headquarters. Carol businessweek is available on newsstands now. Jason an online. What is your mustread . Carol private equity, of course. It is a great cover story in a series of stories looking at the growing influence of private equity. It touches so much of our lives. We touch about influence in washington and women in the industry, so many facets. Jason i have been looking at the industry for a long time and i learned a lot working on this taking advantage of the smart people we have. Carol your mustread . Jason wework. It is such a 2019 story in so many ways. We started thinking this would be the ipo. 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