w debate between the two leaders on a particular issue and intervening if it is necessary we expect those debates to take several minutes before the next question in the next issueis before the next question in the next issue is introduced but men will be given the chance to give a short statement and i understand it is being decided by a coin toss that is all coming up and notjust journalism of voters all over the country very much focused on this because election is next thursday, july the 11th and the bbc political editor vicki young has been helping me look ahead to this debate over the last couple of hours. hello, vicki. you talk to the conservatives on the record and where the expectations of what they can achieve this evening? undecided voters. in talking _ achieve this evening? undecided voters. in talking about - achieve this evening? undecided voters. in talking about other. voters. in talking about other hasn't been much movement throughout this election campaign but still weeks to go and certainly picking up from the shadow cabinet members, a concern about those who still have not made up their minds and after everything that has happened, you still haven't made up your mind about whether you want to vote labour or not if of the conservatives, what more can they say to make that pitch. sir keir starmer sent out an e—mail saying that this is his chance to appeal directly into the rooms and thus are going to vote next week to try to appeal to them and those have not made up their minds yet. for rishi sunak it is somewhat different because it appears that he is behind in the polls and will either go forward in a more aggressive way, maybe because he has nothing to lose and pretty aggressive in the first one that they did. and some people do not like the talking loudly in the general arguing but he feels he can get out there what is trying to do is put a little bit of doubt in peoples minds about what labour might do if they got into power. particularly for those thinking voting reform. but particularly for those thinking voting reform.— particularly for those thinking votin: reform. �* , . , voting reform. but start with rishi sunak. do voting reform. but start with rishi sunak- do you _ voting reform. but start with rishi sunak. do you use _ voting reform. but start with rishi sunak. do you use messages - voting reform. but start with rishi sunak. do you use messages that| sunak. do you use messages that reach people who haven't decided to just focus on firming up those who vote conservative? if just focus on firming up those who vote conservative ?_ vote conservative? if you speak to the candidates, _ vote conservative? if you speak to the candidates, the _ vote conservative? if you speak to the candidates, the conservative l the candidates, the conservative candidates who are in the field and this is the damage limitation exercise and it is not for them, about how pick that labour majority is not many seats they themselves can keep a cabinet minister saying openly about the super maturity for labour and i have to be sure that a strong opposition and so much that they cannot offer opposition. that is very unusual strategic step and during the election campaign, almost saying we know were going to lose. he was really stood out as being, that's not normally what politicians say in a campaign. i that's not normally what politicians say in a campaign-— say in a campaign. i think he is the leader and — say in a campaign. i think he is the leader and does _ say in a campaign. i think he is the leader and does not _ say in a campaign. i think he is the leader and does not want - say in a campaign. i think he is the leader and does not want to - say in a campaign. i think he is the leader and does not want to do - leader and does not want to do that but certainly, some of those people around them talked about that and thatis around them talked about that and that is their best hope now and trying to put some doubt into those people who tried not to vote conservative this time but to vote for reform and he says you have to be careful what you wish for you might not want labour to be in power with a huge majority. fix, might not want labour to be in power with a huge majority.— with a huge ma'ority. a number of election with a huge majority. a number of election campaigns _ with a huge majority. a number of election campaigns in _ with a huge majority. a number of election campaigns in going - with a huge majority. a number of election campaigns in going back. with a huge majority. a number of. election campaigns in going back to 2019 and the issues that dominated brexit and other matters looking at what is dominated now, it's what is dominated now, its extraordinary the political territory which the parties are fighting have shifted and. so fighting have shifted and. sr dominated fighting have shifted and. 5r dominated by brexit and people remember borisjohnson and crashing to a get brexit done an event three years of completely dominating the political landscape group in the conservative party apart in many ways at the pandemic. i think now it's ways at the pandemic. i think now its cost and still immigration that tickets public services and taxation and as far as the parties themselves, borisjohnson with a huge majority in thinking he might be in powerfor ten years it hasn't worked out like that and he had his own downfall, lots of people would say is the beginning of this setting of the conservatives and the other way around, sir keir starmer, how the worst election resort for a very long time and possibly ever in that they can go take ten years to turn that around it looks like they may have done it a bit quicker than that. fortunes of changed very quickly enters the electoral cycle. after the debate, there will be live here in the spin room here with reactions and for viewers who have not seen a spin room in full swing, explain the experience which you make of it, really because both sides are very decided that their respective leader has done very well before they even start. the? respective leader has done very well before they even start.— before they even start. they say oh, eah. m before they even start. they say oh, yeah- my guy _ before they even start. they say oh, yeah- my guy is _ before they even start. they say oh, yeah- my guy is one- _ before they even start. they say oh, yeah. my guy is one. journals - before they even start. they say oh, yeah. my guy is one. journals will. yeah. my guy is one. journals will be filing and during all their analysis, immediate analysis straight afterwards but is there doing that, that members of the shadow cabinet wandering around behind them and tapping him on the shoulder and saying what about this, but you'll find that actually, it can get a good sense of where the parties think their man is done while they're not because they come out and start spinning about it. . thank you very much indeed. that is the political editor vicki young if you want to see the spin room in full swing, you can do that directly after the debate which finishes at half past nine. a quick reminder, the bbc is already running its lift page on the front page of our app in the front page of our website you can see analysis as a build up to the debate as it's going on, highlights of what's being said but also clarifications or context come from bbc verify and others and that is the bbc duck —— the -- the bbc —— the bbc news website. political editor, hello albert. thank you for joining us and there is a huge amount of aspects to an election campaign, whatare amount of aspects to an election campaign, what are you particularly looking forward to this evening? this election campaign as bit as predictable as the polls have not budged much but the feeling in both campuses this is the big one in the audience of the bbc and edited between the two leaders, if anyone is going to move the dial, this is where it will be. and rishi sunak is quite good at these come actually, the feeling on his team and he really went for thejugular the feeling on his team and he really went for the jugular fenster keir starmer and at the beginning, itv debated a few weeks ago at the beginning of the campaign, putting people rememberfrom beginning of the campaign, putting people remember from that is the line the rishi sunak was trying to land on an keir starmer being slow to respond to that. it land on an keir starmer being slow to respond to that.— to respond to that. it will make crucial will make crucial clarifications were rishi sunakfelt important will make crucial clarifications were rishi sunak felt important to take that kind of were rishi sunak felt important to take that kind 0— take that kind of nimble approach where keir starmer _ take that kind of nimble approach where keir starmer is _ take that kind of nimble approach where keir starmer is a _ take that kind of nimble approach where keir starmer is a bit - take that kind of nimble approach| where keir starmer is a bit slower and i think with the conservative so far behind us, the feeling that conservatives have much to lose by going forward —— don't have much to lose by going forward in this debate. �* ., ., lose by going forward in this debate. ., ., ~ ., , debate. another man knows the sub'ects debate. another man knows the subjects in _ debate. another man knows the subjects in advance, _ debate. another man knows the subjects in advance, subjects, l debate. another man knows the l subjects in advance, subjects, the moment and the feel of the labour and conservatives no and would prefer to be speaking about something?— prefer to be speaking about something? prefer to be speaking about somethin: ? , ., ., , something? interviews of the leaders earlier this week _ something? interviews of the leaders earlier this week that _ something? interviews of the leaders earlier this week that rishi _ something? interviews of the leaders earlier this week that rishi sunak - earlier this week that rishi sunak is going from where desperate or electric line comparing his trust on the economy and lining up in a little bit in the spin rooms in the conservatives but some mines attacking labour over how much net zero will cost in lives he thinks that the conservatives will try to land meanwhile, sir keir starmer is trying to get to this unscathed and carried across there so close and in a way, he's trying to say as little as possible that the rock the boat about trying project change in reassurance. about trying pro'ect change in reassurance.— about trying pro'ect change in reassurance. . , ., about trying pro'ect change in reassurance. . ., ., reassurance. have spoken to some of the senior labour _ reassurance. have spoken to some of the senior labour figures _ reassurance. have spoken to some of the senior labour figures say - reassurance. have spoken to some of the senior labour figures say it's - the senior labour figures say it's not just about being the senior labour figures say it's notjust about being cautious swelling of policies that they seem in their manifesto and what you think they see as the strongest cards was shallow it is difficult because change in reassurance some radical moves _ because change in reassurance some radical moves with _ because change in reassurance some radical moves with big _ because change in reassurance "r“- radical moves with big planning reforms and stimulate a lot of private investment and reassure people that they are going to spend beyond their means and a check that is doctor labour they cannot win elections of their behind electoral credibility and forced them for most, economic stability and with the conservatives in the past two years, they would not be rushing to the back benches and everything will be fully funded stability is half the message but radical change on the message but radical change on the other. , ., ., ., the other. tension for our political leaders on — the other. tension for our political leaders on this _ the other. tension for our political leaders on this moment _ the other. tension for our political leaders on this moment trying - the other. tension for our political leaders on this moment trying to i the other. tension for our political i leaders on this moment trying to get across messages but not trying to seem too rehearsed or to robotic and how you deliver it you're trying to get across these key points by the same time, you don't want to be too rehearsed and most politicians in these moments are trying to balance these moments are trying to balance the two. it these moments are trying to balance the two. , , ~ these moments are trying to balance the two. , , ,, ., these moments are trying to balance thetwo. , , ,, , the two. it seems like labour is liven u- the two. it seems like labour is given up not — the two. it seems like labour is given up not to _ the two. it seems like labour is given up not to solve _ the two. it seems like labour is| given up not to solve rehearsed blood following keir starmer, he could give some of his answers, the answers come i can do it in my head but they have these anecdotes in the way he approaches an answer that is all very rehearsed because not only is it in these debates, is doing it to local media stations five times a day and at this point, it comes of the audience and they haven't rehearsed and there's one in the previous debate, why body? keir starmer struggled to answer that because what do you you say to that? it in to go with it and he went his experience northern ireland for the answer is i think that's where the interestingness will come from and i think he has been trained and. rishi sunak is also _ think he has been trained and. rishi sunak is also using _ think he has been trained and. rishi sunak is also using some phrases that are coming up a lot and it's inevitable to some degree we are however many weeks in a campaign stop below the conservative strategy has veered across from one place to another and do not have the same messages as rishi sunak consistently from day one, sometimes focused on defence and focusing on other things and even in terms of the seats they're facing, and that is changed at the campaign as different things that worked and rishi sunak�*s membership committee been trained to recover. , ., membership committee been trained to recover. , . . ., ., recover. they have changed tactics in the lines — recover. they have changed tactics in the lines are _ recover. they have changed tactics in the lines are rehearsed - recover. they have changed tactics in the lines are rehearsed on - recover. they have changed tactics in the lines are rehearsed on both | in the lines are rehearsed on both sides parts from labour party and spend the same message from the start of the campaign with rishi sunak, i think to try some new things tonight because they're coming from behind and they do not have much to lose and i think he does think that performing is one of his strengths. haifa does think that performing is one of his strengths-— his strengths. how quickly your exectin: his strengths. how quickly your exoecting you _ his strengths. how quickly your exoecting you to _ his strengths. how quickly your expecting you to get _ his strengths. how quickly your expecting you to get a - his strengths. how quickly your expecting you to get a story - his strengths. how quickly your| expecting you to get a story and his strengths. how quickly your - expecting you to get a story and on it? ~ expecting you to get a story and on it? . ., ., expecting you to get a story and on it? c, a, a expecting you to get a story and on it? ., . v, expecting you to get a story and on it? we have a colicky niche hq and we are feeding _ it? we have a colicky niche hq and we are feeding stuff _ it? we have a colicky niche hq and we are feeding stuff into _ it? we have a colicky niche hq and we are feeding stuff into them - it? we have a colicky niche hq and we are feeding stuff into them and| we are feeding stuff into them and other was so there would be a story up. other was so there would be a story u . _ ., ~' other was so there would be a story un. ., " , ., other was so there would be a story up. thank you for speaking to us. sociopolitical _ up. thank you for speaking to us. sociopolitical editor _ up. thank you for speaking to us. sociopolitical editor at _ up. thank you for speaking to us. | sociopolitical editor at bloomberg news. he been speaking a lot about the ministerial debatable we may hear from the prime the ministerial debatable we may hearfrom the prime minister and the ministerial debatable we may hear from the prime minister and the labour leader sir keir starmer, we're about to find out if you want to follow this online as on his watching and listening to it, you can do that to the bbc live page. a few metres from where i'm speaking to you, there is saying they're hosting the prime ministerial debate. in nine days' time, one of the men standing here will be prime minister. tonight, they go head—to—head and welcome to the bbc prime ministerial debate. applause prime ministerial debate. good evening. welcome to nottinghamshire and university for this debate. with the general election just over a week away, tonight, rishi sunak and keir starmer are about to spend the next hour and a quarter answering voters questions, the two contenders for prime minister and positions on this debate stage have been decided by the toss of a coin. they do not know what the questions will be in their becoming primarily from our live audience here at the university who have been chosen. supporters of the conservatives and of labour is well as some undecided voters and will have questions submitted from the bbc�*s in your voice, your voice your vote website. also the
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