on how ipef can succeed without beijing involved for that the big issue is a dollar value in these projects. if the number is small or modest it's always helpful in an investment in clean and green is better than none. i think it will be difficult to compete with fairly substantial deep—pocketed investors for that many of them coming out of china, some chinese government itself that interested in supporting this kind of investment across the region. that's always been a bit of a tech and hopefully the numbers coming out of this ipef, the first launch in future initiatives will actually add up to enough investment to start to spend the dial on ourfuture. us elections are taking place in this year for that will not have any bearing on what members will be thinking about how ipef may work on forward? most members will feel like no matter who wins in

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