they say one of the schools, the un—run al—fakhoura, was being used as a shelter. a spokesman for the israeli military told bbc news it was looking into the incident but couldn't say if it had been caused by israeli action although an idf social media post stated the military had conducted activities in the jabalia region, saying they encountered terrorists and struck a large number of terrorist infrastructure. hamas claims the second strike was also on a school, tal al—zaatar, adding that 32 members of one family were killed, including 19 children. also today, hundreds of people have left gaza city's al—shifa hospital on foot. doctors say israeli forces had issued by loudspeaker an order to evacuate. the israeli military denies this, saying it had agreed to expand and assist an evacuation, following a request by the hospital's director. yogita limaye has more now from jerusalem. and a warning — her report contains distressing images. people fleeing al—shifa hospital in gaza's north. the hospital's director says israel ordered civilians to leave. the israeli military says they acted on a request by the hospital and have facilitated this evacuation. a cameraman working for the bbc filmed these families today as they arrived past the israeli military checkpoint for people moving from the north to the south of the strip. this boy was injured in a bombing near his house and had been sheltering in al—shifa. "we were getting food and water at the hospital. "the israeli military would enter it whenever they wanted "and they were shooting as well. "today we were able to leave the hospital," he says. israel says military action at al—shifa targeted a hamas command centre there. hundreds are reported to have been able to leave today, but there are questions about how those with serious injuries or illnesses can evacuate. from further north in gaza, footage has emerged which shows the aftermath of an explosion at a un—run school shelter. the hamas—run health ministry says scores were killed here. the bbc can't independently confirm what caused this, but it has been able to verify that his video is from today in the jabalia refugee camp area. in central gaza, a so—called safer area, an air strike hit. the number of civilian deaths is increasing global pressure on israel to pause the fighting. from within the country, too, calls of anger and frustration are growing. a few days ago, these people started marching from tel aviv. today they arrived in jerusalem demanding the release of the hostages taken by hamas. what we're seeing on the streets ofjerusalem today is evidence of the growing pressure from people here on the government for some movement on the release of hostages, for the announcement of some kind of deal that would get the more than 200 people being held in gaza by hamas safely back to their homes. and i think talking to people here what's quite clear is that they believe the government isn't prioritising that. "bring them home now" is what they're shouting. this man's brother was kidnapped from a music festival being held in southern israel. his brother eli says it's now been six weeks since they were taken and time is running out. there is no victory if we will not bring them back home. if they stay there, we lose. and we don't only lose in that war, we also giving up on our morals and ourjewish identity. the families of the hostages are meeting members of israel's war cabinet today. they'll be looking for answers and hope. yogita limaye, bbc news, jerusalem. we can speak now to one of the attendees of the march we just saw in yogita's report. gil dickmann joins me from tel aviv. his family members are being held hostage. hello, are being held hostage. gill, thank you for taking the hello, gill, thank you for taking the time to speak to us. i wonder if we could just start off, first, please, with the family members that are missing. 50. please, with the family members that are missinu. , _, , ., are missing. 50, my cousin carmel gat, 39 are missing. so, my cousin carmel get. 39 years _ are missing. so, my cousin carmel gat, 39 years old, _ are missing. so, my cousin carmel gat, 39 years old, she _ are missing. so, my cousin carmel gat, 39 years old, she was - are missing. so, my cousin carmel. gat, 39 years old, she was kidnapped from a house in be'eri kibbutz, and her sister—in—law was also kidnapped from the house, she was kidnapped along with a husband and with her three—year—old child. the three of them managed to escape from the car that was driving them but their mother was running too slow, she gave the baby to her husband, her husband ryan, —— her husband ran, and she is now kidnapped in the hands of hamas. i have to tell you personally that the photos you have been showing, the videos you have been showing, the videos you have been sharing a horrifying, it is horrible, we want this to stop, we don't want blood, we don't want any revenge. i think many israelis who have walked the streets ofjerusalem today, we walked from tel aviv to jerusalem, don't want to see blood and revenge, what they want to see is life, life brought back to the homes of israelis and specifically we want to see our families back home. , , ., , ., we want to see our families back home. , , . ,, ., we want to see our families back home. , , ., ., home. gil, i understand your art was also caught — home. gil, i understand your art was also caught up _ home. gil, i understand your art was also caught up in _ home. gil, i understand your art was also caught up in the _ home. gil, i understand your art was also caught up in the 7th _ home. gil, i understand your art was also caught up in the 7th of- also caught up in the 7th of october, what happened to your aunt? yes, it was at the same house. she was the first to see the terrorists when they came in. she was caught by them, we don't know what happened but i scrolled —— scrolled through videos to see what happened to her, the terrace was posting —— posting them on telegram because they were proud of them, i guess. ifound a video of her, she looked as if she was handcuffed and looked around the kibbutz and then i found another video found saying she looked as if she was murdered and we got it confirmed a few days after, she was actually murdered ten metres from the house with cash without any reason whatsoever. that the house with cash without any reason whatsoever.— the house with cash without any reason whatsoever. that must have been traumatising _ reason whatsoever. that must have been traumatising itself, _ reason whatsoever. that must have been traumatising itself, looking i been traumatising itself, looking through those videos. yes. been traumatising itself, looking through those videos.— been traumatising itself, looking through those videos. yes, yes. i can't even _ through those videos. yes, yes. i can't even think— through those videos. yes, yes. i can't even think about _ through those videos. yes, yes. i can't even think about it - through those videos. yes, yes. i can't even think about it right - through those videos. yes, yes. i i can't even think about it right now. for me, it was the only way to receive any kind of information of what had happened because it is in such chaos. it was in the only way for us to receive information, this is how we learn, this is how i had to tell my mother and the husband of my auntie, i had to tell them all by showing them the videos and it was horrifying. gill. showing them the videos and it was horri in. , , ., showing them the videos and it was horri inc. , , ., ., ~ horrifying. gil, before we talk about the _ horrifying. gil, before we talk about the arch _ horrifying. gil, before we talk about the arch today, - horrifying. gil, before we talk about the arch today, and - horrifying. gil, before we talk about the arch today, and i i horrifying. gil, before we talk i about the arch today, and i know horrifying. gil, before we talk - about the arch today, and i know you have said what you and the families want, first off, have you heard from any of the two members that remain missing or have you heard directly from them or received news about their well—being? from them or received news about their well-being?— from them or received news about their well-being? they are defined as considered _ their well-being? they are defined as considered kidnapped _ their well-being? they are defined as considered kidnapped by - their well-being? they are defined as considered kidnapped by the - their well-being? they are defined l as considered kidnapped by the idf, but we didn't hear anything from them, we didn't hear anything from hamas who isn't telling us anything about them or anyone else. the red cross is trying to reach them but they cannot. it is a terror organisation, this is notjust like a hostage situation, there are messages giving from and to the people held, and we actually don't know anything for sure right now, they might be alive, they might be dead, we consider them alive because we don't know if they are dead or alive. but we didn't hear anything, they didn't contact us, it is all chaos. ., ., . ., , chaos. how did that march go, gil? what was that _ chaos. how did that march go, gil? what was that like? _ chaos. how did that march go, gil? what was that like? i _ chaos. how did that march go, gil? what was that like? i don't - chaos. how did that march go, gil? what was that like? i don't know i chaos. how did that march go, gil? what was that like? i don't know if| what was that like? i don't know if you are there for the full five days orjust you are there for the full five days or just today? you are there for the full five days orjust today? the you are there for the full five days orjust today?— you are there for the full five days orjust today? the march started on tuesday and — orjust today? the march started on tuesday and it _ orjust today? the march started on tuesday and it started _ orjust today? the march started on tuesday and it started when - orjust today? the march started on tuesday and it started when a - orjust today? the march started on| tuesday and it started when a friend of mine who has both his parents, his father was killed and his mother was taken, and five more members of his family were kidnapped, and he said, let's go tojerusalem because the government might talk to us. so, he went and started walking, and people joined he went and started walking, and peoplejoined him, familiesjoined people joined him, families joined him peoplejoined him, familiesjoined him and other citizens of israel joined him, saying something very, very simple, we want them back, and we want the government to talk to us about it, we want the government to expect to us how come it has been six weeks and we still aren't anywhere closer to getting them back to israel? this for us tar gil, when you said they are defined by the israeli government as being hostages, they have confirmed that, do they in any way talk to you about their plans or do they reassure you? what sort of contact do you have with the government? 50. what sort of contact do you have with the government?— what sort of contact do you have with the government? so, we have contact with _ with the government? so, we have contact with the _ with the government? so, we have contact with the government, - with the government? so, we have contact with the government, i - with the government? so, we have| contact with the government, i was actually in a meeting with the defence minister a few days ago. but she doesn't say exactly how he's going to bring them back, you know, it is confidential information, in some way, i guess. but what we are trying to understand is if this is the number—one thing on the agenda, the number—one thing on the agenda, the first priority of israeli government to bring the hostages back home, because as i say from the public that came and joined the march, it is the first thing on the agenda for the israeli public, it is, people understand that if the government can't ensure the peace and the security of its own people, then, it actually doesn't exist, the state does not exist and israel does not exist if ten—month—old is still in gaza and we don't know whether he's dead or alive, it mainly doesn't exist, and i can't believe they would let this go on. i think they would let this go on. i think they understand right now, the government understands what we demand and it understands that we are serious about this. we can't come back to life, we cannot do anything until we see them back together with us at home. gill. i anything until we see them back together with us at home. gil, i am auoin to together with us at home. gil, i am going to put — together with us at home. gil, i am going to put to _ together with us at home. gil, i am going to put to you _ together with us at home. gil, i am going to put to you the _ together with us at home. gil, i am going to put to you the position - together with us at home. gil, i am going to put to you the position of. going to put to you the position of their government. they are saying that the piece, the security, the violence that you want to stop, the nightmare that you want to stop, it can only come hand—in—hand with stopping hamas. that is what the government is saying. and to do that, they have to go into hamas. and how us is only saying they will release the hostages of the israeli government stops their offensive in gaza. how do you, as a relative, balance that? i gaza. how do you, as a relative, balance that?— gaza. how do you, as a relative, balance that? i am not a politician, and i am balance that? i am not a politician, and i am not _ balance that? i am not a politician, and i am not a _ balance that? i am not a politician, and i am not a military _ balance that? i am not a politician, and i am not a military guy - balance that? i am not a politician, and i am not a military guy in - balance that? i am not a politician, and i am not a military guy in any l and i am not a military guy in any way. iwant to and i am not a military guy in any way. i want to stop the cycle of violence. and i see there are people benefiting from this. you are showing pictures of violence to your audience, you are spreading misinformation at some points, and i think there are people who enjoyed the circle of violence. we are victims of the circle of violence and so are people who are getting hurt on both sides. this is how i see it. we are not supposed to come up see it. we are not supposed to come up with a plans that would bring our families back home, we are supposed to demand what is supposed to be the simplest thing that anything —— any citizen should demand, to live in peace in their own home, that is it. 35 -- peace in their own home, that is it. 35 —— 39—year—old carmel didn't ask for it and the ten—month—old did not ask for it. it is basic, basic rights of people to live peacefully and to stay safe, and i think that if the government can do this,, if they cannot do this, then i have nothing to say. but i think they can do this and i think they are able to do this and i think they are able to do this and i think they are able to do this and i think they can find a solution and i think other governments are also, should also be held accountable to finding the solution, the us government, the qatar government, the german government and also the french government and also the french government which has meddled here. we are the victims of the situation, on both sides, actually, and we want this to stop and this is what we said today. we want people to go back home and to live peacefully. i think that government can do this. gil, i know you are saying you are not a politician but you are speaking as an israeli so i'm just going to put this question to you. rather than hearing this from a politician, i want to hear it from you, a civilian. you said you want the circle of violence to stop, you want your family home, that is all people want. and you want the hurt on both sides to stop. i mean, how does israel, the wider israel feel about that? we have heard from the politicians, we have heard from the officials, but it is you that matters. i officials, but it is you that matters-— officials, but it is you that matters. ~ ., officials, but it is you that matters. ~ . ., matters. i think that there are some oliticians, matters. i think that there are some politicians. you _ matters. i think that there are some politicians, you know, _ matters. i think that there are some politicians, you know, extreme - politicians, you know, extreme politicians, you know, extreme politicians, who benefit from violence, who want to see more violence, who want to see more violence and want to save revenge. we as the people who miss their loved ones once only one thing, we want them back, we want it to stop. me as an israeli, the only government that i can address is my government. it doesn't matter whether i voted for the politicians who are now in charge or not, i addressed them and i say to them, i trust you to stop this, i trust you to bring them home, and i think it is possible. gill to bring them home, and i think it is possible-— to bring them home, and i think it is ossible. , , ., . ~' is possible. gil dickmann, thank you ve much is possible. gil dickmann, thank you very much indeed, _ is possible. gil dickmann, thank you very much indeed, and _ is possible. gil dickmann, thank you very much indeed, and hopefully - is possible. gil dickmann, thank you very much indeed, and hopefully we j very much indeed, and hopefully we will keep in touch and update on the fate and the well—being of your family members currently being held within gaza. ., ~' , ., , family members currently being held within gaza. ., ~ , ., , . within gaza. thank you very much. thank ou within gaza. thank you very much. thank you very _ within gaza. thank you very much. thank you very much, _ within gaza. thank you very much. thank you very much, good - within gaza. thank you very much. thank you very much, good night, | within gaza. thank you very much. - thank you very much, good night, and let's see them back home very soon. indeed. the israeli military has told the bbc that it is looking into the explosions in the jabaliya refugee camp — but it could not confirm whether or not it had been caused by israeli military action. but the israel defence forces twitter account has posted this message — saying that the al—shifa hospital in gaza now has fuel, incubators, baby food, medicine, food and water. it adds "these definitely weren't provided by hamas "but by israel." we've not been able to independently confirm these claims. i'm joined now by dr mustafa barghouti — president of the palestine national initiative. thank you forjoining us. welcome to the programme. i wonder, you obviously are very close to events and updates that are taking place on the ground, what can you tell us about those reported attacks on two schools? ~ , ., _, schools? well, israel committed toda , schools? well, israel committed today. the _ schools? well, israel committed today, the israeli _ schools? well, israel committed today, the israeli army - schools? well, israel committed l today, the israeli army committed schools? well, israel committed - today, the israeli army committed a horrible, horrible massacre, another massacre, actually, which included attacking two schools. one of them is a united nations school in jabalia, in the north of gaza. and the other one is tal al—zaatar school also in the same area. the total people killed there is more than 200, and many of them, most of them are golden and will mean —— women, —— most of them are children and women. they are taking shelter in the schools because there is no safe to —— safe place to be in. the israelis conducted another air strike in khan younis in the south which they are trying to push people to, claiming it is safer. mainly women and children, these are barbaric attacks that continue around the clock. they have taken already the lives of more than 5000 children, probably 7000 children if we count those that are still under the rubble and no one can take them out. nothing canjustify these atrocities committed by the israeli army is, and nobody believes their lives any more. each time they are embarrassed by what they do, they come up with a lie. also, the al—shifa hospital, they destroyed it, doctors and nurses and patients had to evacuate. just it, doctors and nurses and patients had to evacuate.— had to evacuate. just to interrupt, i want to had to evacuate. just to interrupt, i want to make — had to evacuate. just to interrupt, i want to make sure _ had to evacuate. just to interrupt, i want to make sure i _ had to evacuate. just to interrupt, i want to make sure i get - had to evacuate. just to interrupt, i want to make sure i get the - had to evacuate. just to interrupt, | i want to make sure i get the point with you before i lose the opportunity, why were the people, whether they were staff, refugees seeking shelter, or the displaced, rather, or patients, why did they start leaving the hospital? they. , the israelis. _ start leaving the hospital? they. , the israelis. them. _ start leaving the hospital? they. , the israelis. them. they- start leaving the hospital? they. , the israelis. them. they gave - start leaving the hospital? they. ,| the israelis. them. they gave him one hour to evacuate. the only people who stayed whether people who couldn't be moved because they are seriously injured or in a coma. and five doctors stayed with them, but everybody else was forced out by the israeli order. they told them to leave and they kept bombarding and shooting, and these guys had to work between tanks. one of them, a medical doctor, left the hospital and went home and today he was bombarded and killed, he was the director of the internal medicine department in the hospital. look, there is no place safe in gaza. after the killing of 12,000 palestinian civilians, including as i said almost 6000 children, everybody feels totally unsafe. and by the way i heard your previous speaker there, the israeli person who i think has one of his family members is taken as hostage, and i totally agree with him, i think these prisoners can come home immediately, safe, in an exchange of prisoners, if benjamin netanyahu agrees, but he doesn't care about them, he continues to bombard, killing also the israeli prisoners. you would agree with an exchange of prisoners to return the hostages and to cessation cessation the fighting? yes, because there are 7200 palestinian prisoners in israeli jails today, including 200 children. 200 children are in israeli prisons. and by the way, since the 7th of october, six palestinian prisoners were killed inside the prison. today, they announced the death of the 61. , ., , , , today, they announced the death of the61. ,., _ g, a the 61. obviously, -- they announced the 61. obviously, -- they announced the death of— the 61. obviously, -- they announced the death of the _ the 61. obviously, -- they announced the death of the sixth _ the 61. obviously, -- they announced the death of the sixth one. _ the 61. obviously, -- they announced the death of the sixth one. but - the 61. obviously, -- they announced the death of the sixth one. but what. the death of the sixth one. but what about the actions that hamas committed? what is your position on that? ~ ., ~ ., committed? what is your position on that? . ., ~ ., ., committed? what is your position on that? ~ ., ~ ., ., that? well, we talked about that so many times. _ that? well, we talked about that so many times, come _ that? well, we talked about that so many times, come on, _ that? well, we talked about that so many times, come on, each - that? well, we talked about that so many times, come on, each time i that? well, we talked about that so | many times, come on, each time we speak about israeli behaviour which is going on for 42 days, we go back to the 7th of october, as if the war started on the 7th of october and only on the 7th of october. before the 7th of october, wait a minute, before the 7th of october, there was israeli military occupation, there was apartheid, i am against the killing of any civilian. i am telling you that i agree with the israeli guest that says everyone should come back safe.- israeli guest that says everyone should come back safe. what do you know about — should come back safe. what do you know about where _ should come back safe. what do you know about where hamas _ should come back safe. what do you know about where hamas are - should come back safe. what do you know about where hamas are basing themselves? because we now know that israel has said that people need to clear khan younis and that is because of intel that high—level hamas official may well be based in khan younis, why do they base or claim, according to israelis, within civilian areas? what can you tell us about that? do civilian areas? what can you tell us about that?— about that? do you really believe the israelis? _ about that? do you really believe the israelis? how _ about that? do you really believe the israelis? how many - about that? do you really believe the israelis? how many times - about that? do you really believe the israelis? how many times do | about that? do you really believe - the israelis? how many times do they live? they said they were hiding in al—shifa hospital. they bombarded all hospitals and an author in the centre of gaza the israeli plan is ethnic cleansing of all the gaza strip. now they have finished with a note on the centre, they want to go to the south because they want to kill every palestinian, that is the real goal of israel, and their lives should not be believed. they say they want to eradicate hamas, they are eradicating the palestinian population. nothing the world can justify killing 6000 palestinian children, nothing.— justify killing 6000 palestinian children, nothing. thank you very much indeed. _ children, nothing. thank you very much indeed, the _ children, nothing. thank you very much indeed, the general - children, nothing. thank you very i much indeed, the general secretary of the palestinian national initiative, thank you. thank you. time for the _ initiative, thank you. thank you. time for the sport. _ hello from the bbc sport centre. we'll start with euro qualifiers, qualification for next summers tournament in germany is now out of wale's hands after they drew against armenia and croatia beat latvia, armenia beat wales in cardiff injune, and the man who scored twice in that match — lucas zelarayan — gave them the lead after just five minutes // wales equalised shortly before half—time thanks to an own goal following a connor roberts throw—in but the draw does them no good. nor armenia who definitely can't qualify. the welsh must beat group leaders turkey on tuesday and hope croatia slip up against armenia, croatia won 2—0 in latvia with wolfsburg midfielder lovro majer scoring the first and creating the second for andrej kramaric inside 20 minutes. here's how it leaves group d. with one match left to play, croatia know that victory against armenia would guarantee automatic qualification. wales need to win at home to turkey and hope that croatia slip up. group leaders france are already through to next year's tournament but they're showing no signs of letting up against poor gibraltar. they're currently 11—0 up in nice. that is a national record, ten — zero was their previous record. the netherlands need victory over either ireland, or gibraltar on tuesday night to go through with the french. they are 1—0 up, wout weghorst put them ahead. switzerland and romania were in control on group i heading into saturday's games — both started their matches four points clear of israel in third. both are winning which means both would be sure of going through. novak djokokvic and carlos alcaraz are currently on court in turin battling it out for a place in the final at atp tour finals. djokovic won the first set jannik sinner is waiting for the winner, delighting the home fans as he became the first italian to reach the final. he won in three sets against daniil medvedev. it was world number four sinner�*s third straight win against the russian having lost the previous six. tiger woods is set to return to golf after seven months out of the game. the 15—time major winner will play in the hero world challenge in the bahamas on november 30. woods hasn't played competitively since withdrawing from the masters in april, after which he had ankle surgery. he's the host of the competiton which is 20—player invitational pga tour event. so it is probably quite easy for him to get a place in it. and that's all the sport for now. stay with us here on bbc news. in the meantime, find all the latest on our website. hello there. we've seen two different sides to autumn over the last couple of days. friday, i'm sure you'll remember, we had lots of sunshine across the country and temperatures generally near average, although it was a bit cold in scotland. contrast that with the weather we had on saturday, where there was a lot of cloud around but it was a lot milder. temperatures in yeovilton up to 17 degrees celsius. it was also quite windy for some, for example here in west scotland. saturday's weather with all due to this area of low pressure. sunday's weather will all be due to this area of low pressure too. it's not really going anywhere very fast at all. the south—westerly winds we have at the moment will continue to feed in some fairly thick layers of cloud, thick enough to bring outbreaks of mostly light rain and drizzle, although there could be a few heavier bursts mixed in for west scotland and northern ireland at times. so we are looking at a mild start to the day on sunday. near the centre of this low pressure in scotland, it won't be too windy but in contrast to that, the winds picking up across the south coast of england and into southern wales as well. i think towards the south—west coasts, we could see gusts picking up to about a0 mph, so it will be a noticeably blowy kind of day. some further damp weather working from west to east but you do have a chance of seeing a few glimmers of sunshine pushing through the cloud at times. here's our low pressure still with us by monday, slowly slipping away into the north sea and weakening. still bringing cloud and patches of rain but again, there should be a few more brighter spells intermingled, particularly across more inland areas. although still mild, those temperatures are just starting to edge down a little bit as we head through the course of monday. heading into tuesday, we start to see a ridge of high pressure moving in off the atlantic and that should give us better breaks in the cloud, particular across scotland and northern ireland, although there could be a few mist and fog patches to start the day here. maybe one or two showers draped around coastal regions of england and wales but otherwise probably largely dry. temperatures coming down, closer to average for the time of year, about 9—12 degrees celsius for most. now, that mild weather lasting for much of the week. it will often be quite windy. towards the end of the week and next weekend, though, there is a question mark as to how far south we start to see some cooler air moving its way in. what i think we will see is a drop in temperatures and across some of the mountains of northern scotland, it could get cold enough to see some of the showers start to turn a bit wintry. hello and welcome to political thinking,

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