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we'll ask the un's former director for operations in the occupied territories whether that fuel support will be enough to resume aid operations. the israeli military says a second hostage has been found dead near the al—shifa hospital in gaza. we'll speak to a relative of one of the many hostages still being held by hamas six weeks after they were abducted on october the 7th. and rishi sunak rejects the criticism from former home secretary suella braverman that he is only tinkering with the plan to deport asylum—seekers to rwanda. we'll look closer at what the revisions to that plan might entail. good evening. last night on this programme, we broke the story that the un's biggest agency in gaza would no longer be able to bring in or distribute vital aid because fuel had run out, and today that came to pass. aid operations were shut down, but there was perhaps a glimmer of hope for the palestinians who go hungry. the israeli war cabinet approved the delivery of two trucks of fuel a day, but solely for the pumping of sewage and water. though in the last hour, a palestinian official confirmed to the afp news agency that 17,000 litres of fuel had crossed into gaza this afternoon for communications. which have been down since yesterday. across the border in israel, a funeral has been held for a 19—year—old female soldier held hostage by hamas, whose body was found by the idf in a building near gaza's biggest hospital, the al—shifa. on thursday, the military also recovered the body of a 65—year—old hostage. israel's prime minister has told our sister network cbs news that a tunnel was also found at the site, along with evidence that hostages had been held within the hospital comlex. he admitted that israel's efforts to minimise civilian casualties had not been "successful". the current death toll according to the hamas—run health ministry now exceeds 12,000. the bbc�*s yogita limaye has been working with freelance journalist majdi fathi, who is in gaza. their report contains distressing images from the start, including injured children. monday in central gaza. tuesday. wednesday. thursday. air strikes have continued to hit the strip this week while israel conducts ground operations in the north. hundreds have been killed and injured, some of them from the barghouth family in deir al—balah. "we're being killed, and no—one is doing anything about it," this man shouts. abid barghouth is still breathing, in critical condition. doctors scramble to treat the boy. 0n the floor by his bed, they check his father, subhi, for a heartbeat. they can't hear it. his family in shock, still finding out... ..who's been rescued, who's survived and who hasn't from 30 members. this is their youngest — injured, but not seriously. the barghouths had fled to deir al—balah for safety from zeitoun in the north. a bit later, subhi's brother ali is taken to identify the bodies. four of the family have been killed. little abid didn't make it. "we thought we'd come to a safe place, but no—one is safe in gaza," ali says. abid, subhi, bilal and alla barghouth — four of thousands of gazans killed. "goodbye, my dear," subhi's mother says. "you're with god now. you were such a good son." grief is one form of suffering in gaza. this is another. hundreds gather outside one of the few flour mills still running. the manager tries to pacify people. "we haven't eaten for two days," some in the crowd shout. translation: we've escaped death, but now are dying slowly _ because of a severe shortage of food, flour and basic needs. we are a family of eight. i burn discarded paper cups to keep my children warm. here, too, they're under the threat of bombardment. at the moment, no aid trucks are going in for gaza's 2.2 million. all but a tiny handful can't get out. yogita limaye, bbc news, jerusalem. joining me tonight is lex takkenberg. he was formerly the unrwa director of operations. he is now a senior adviser at the arab renaissance for democracy and development. good to have you on the programme. as a former director of operations, can you explain the combination of factors that led to unrwa's decision if they to suspend aid? the situation — if they to suspend aid? the situation that _ if they to suspend aid? the situation that we _ if they to suspend aid? tue: situation that we witnessed if they to suspend aid? tte: situation that we witnessed on if they to suspend aid? "tte: situation that we witnessed on the ground is dramatically worse than anything i myself and the others who wrote this recent letter expressing concern with the situation in gaza, than anything that we have experienced. and the principal reason that sort of triggered the suspension of unrwa's operations on the ground is indeed the lack of fuel to enable trucks to move around for the communication network to function, for sewage to be pumped away. the roads are covered in a raw untreated sewage, and so forth. there was simply no way that unrwa could provide ongoing support, transport flour to bakeries, distribute other humanitarian supplies to medical facilities and to the schools in which 800,000 displaced palestinians are currently sheltering. t displaced palestinians are currently shelterinu. ~ sheltering. i think we can understand _ sheltering. i think we can understand what - sheltering. i think we can understand what a - sheltering. i think we can l understand what a problem sheltering. i think we can - understand what a problem a sheltering. i think we can _ understand what a problem a blackout is to an operation like the one that unrwa runs. we can you explain in detail to people what communications is so important when you were running an aid operation? well, the drivers need — running an aid operation? well, the drivers need to _ running an aid operation? well, the drivers need to get _ running an aid operation? well, the drivers need to get directions - running an aid operation? well, the| drivers need to get directions where to move. the operations centre it needs to be in constant contact with the drivers, with convoy leaders to accompany the convoys of food, to make sure they're safe, to communicate back to the israeli authorities when a convoy is on the road, to liaise with the egyptian authorities for the burning end of humanitarian aid and so forth. without basic communication, you know, and eight operation is doomed. the commissioner general of unrwa described it yesterday, this lack of fuel, as a deliberate attempt by israel to strangle and paralyse our operation. that's an extremely strenuous allegation. is it accurate?— strenuous allegation. is it accurate? ~ . , strenuous allegation. is it accurate? . , accurate? well, it increasingly has become clear— accurate? well, it increasingly has become clear since _ accurate? well, it increasingly has become clear since the _ accurate? well, it increasingly has become clear since the 7th - accurate? well, it increasingly has become clear since the 7th of- become clear since the 7th of october that apart from revenge and taking on hamas, the principal goal of the israeli government with the current military operation was the conduct of the hostilities of the war, is to initiate a forced displacement of palestinians and other ethnic cleansing. at present, 1.6 million people come out more than two thirds of the gaza population, are already internally displaced. i mentioned 800,000 in temporary unrwa shelters, and there is a risk with attention to building up is a risk with attention to building up in the south, with the ongoing lack of communitarian supplies, with the ongoing shelley, with the ongoing instructions by the israeli military for palestinians also in the south to relocate, and khan younis and it villages east of khan younis and it villages east of khan younis yesterday, people were receiving written instructions to vacate to known shelters which can only refer to the already overcrowded unrwa schools that double as it shelters. so there is a dramatic risk that pressure will build up to such an extent that people will simply break through the border with egypt, and we may see eight mass forced displacement into egyptin eight mass forced displacement into egypt in the coming days or weeks. and with the change in weather, temperature dropping, heavy rainfall, the situation will become truly, truly catastrophic.— truly, truly catastrophic. israel sa s that truly, truly catastrophic. israel says that in — truly, truly catastrophic. israel says that in the _ truly, truly catastrophic. israel says that in the past, - truly, truly catastrophic. israel says that in the past, the - truly, truly catastrophic. israel says that in the past, the fuel| truly, truly catastrophic. israel. says that in the past, the fuel has been diverted by it hamas to its war operations. did you as a director of operations. did you as a director of operations have any experience of that while you were in post of fuel being confiscated? i that while you were in post of fuel being confiscated?— being confiscated? i mean, at my time, this being confiscated? i mean, at my time. this did _ being confiscated? i mean, at my time, this did not _ being confiscated? i mean, at my time, this did not come _ being confiscated? i mean, at my time, this did not come up. - being confiscated? i mean, at my time, this did not come up. this. being confiscated? i mean, at my| time, this did not come up. this is ward number six since 2008, and as far as i'm ward number six since 2008, and as faras i'm aware ward number six since 2008, and as far as i'm aware and as far as i have been following the developments of the past year, there has never been any diversion of fuel that has been any diversion of fuel that has been made available to unrwa or to other humanitarian agencies for the purposes of its operations. i mean, the israeli authorities make allegations of this nature including with respect to inappropriate use of medical facilities and also schools by unrwa, but there has never been any credible and solid evidence with respect to inappropriate or pointing to inappropriate use. goad respect to inappropriate or pointing to inappropriate use.— to inappropriate use. good to talk to inappropriate use. good to talk to ou to inappropriate use. good to talk to you this — to inappropriate use. good to talk to you this evening. _ to inappropriate use. good to talk to you this evening. thank- to inappropriate use. good to talk to you this evening. thank you . to you this evening. thank you for your thoughts. to you this evening. thank you for your thoughts-— let's talk about the hostages. a second person that was taken hostage by hamas last month has been found dead in the grounds of al—shifa hospital. she is 19—year—old soldier corporal noa marciano. herfuneral was held today in modiin. it's not yet clear how she died. hamas said she was killed by a israeli air strike. on thursday, the idf said they found the body of 65—year—old mother of five yehudita weiss in the same vacinity. the israeli military says 239 people were taken hostage by hamas. the families of many of them are walking from tel aviv tojerusalem to put pressure on the israeli government to prioritise their release. so far, only four have been freed. itay raviv from herzliya, israel is one of hundreds of family members waiting to hear from loved ones held hostage. his aunt and uncle — ruthi and abraham munder, both aged 78 — were taken into gaza on october 7th, along with their daughter karen and her nine—year—old son 0had. his other cousin, roee, was killed in the attacks. he was a devoted liverpool supporter. itayjoins me now from herzliya, israel. thank you very much for coming on the programme. tell me about your family and the information that you've been given so far by the israeli government.— you've been given so far by the israeli government. thank you. first of all, israeli government. thank you. first of all. after — israeli government. thank you. first of all, after the _ israeli government. thank you. first of all, after the director _ israeli government. thank you. first of all, after the director of _ of all, after the director of operationsjust said, he said there is no _ operationsjust said, he said there is no fool— operationsjust said, he said there is no fool but hamasjust operationsjust said, he said there is no fool but hamas just fire this evening _ is no fool but hamas just fire this evening rockets at israel and i don't — evening rockets at israel and i don't know how they do it without fuei~ _ don't know how they do it without fuei~ and — don't know how they do it without fuel. and also on the al—shifa hospital, _ fuel. and also on the al—shifa hospital, you said yourself to bodies — hospital, you said yourself to bodies of hostages were found near the al—shifa hospital, so they do use medical facilities for terror. anyway, — use medical facilities for terror. anyway, they had been taken from their home, abducted by hamas on octoher— their home, abducted by hamas on october the 7th. we have not heard anything _ october the 7th. we have not heard anything since. the only thing we know— anything since. the only thing we know which we discovered only a few days later _ know which we discovered only a few days later that their phones were geo- _ days later that their phones were geo— located in gaza. 0n the october the 7th _ geo— located in gaza. 0n the october the 7th at _ geo— located in gaza. 0n the october the 7th at it _ geo— located in gaza. 0n the october the 7th at 11 a:m., the four of them — the 7th at 11 a:m., the four of them. roee was murdered. he was not killed by— them. roee was murdered. he was not killed by some mystery. he was murdered — killed by some mystery. he was murdered by hamas terrorists. and the four— murdered by hamas terrorists. and the four of— murdered by hamas terrorists. and the four of them were again violently— the four of them were again violently taken from their homes in their pyjamas from their beds by hamas— their pyjamas from their beds by hamas and we don't know in what condition — hamas and we don't know in what condition. we don't know if they are alive or— condition. we don't know if they are alive or not — condition. we don't know if they are alive or not. we don't know if they are getting — alive or not. we don't know if they are getting any medicine. my uncle needs— are getting any medicine. my uncle needs to _ are getting any medicine. my uncle needs to take medicines daily. he barely— needs to take medicines daily. he barely walks. he uses a cane to walk _ barely walks. he uses a cane to walk all— barely walks. he uses a cane to walk all of— barely walks. he uses a cane to walk. all of them wear glasses we don't _ walk. all of them wear glasses we don't know— walk. all of them wear glasses we don't know if they have their glasses— don't know if they have their glasses on or if anyone watches us wearing _ glasses on or if anyone watches us wearing glasses, but if you don't have _ wearing glasses, but if you don't have glasses, you cannot do anything _ have glasses, you cannot do anything. and the red cross to what does not _ anything. and the red cross to what does not cooperate. the red cross does _ does not cooperate. the red cross does not _ does not cooperate. the red cross does not know who is even a hostage. and the _ does not know who is even a hostage. and the red _ does not know who is even a hostage. and the red cross in geneva is supposed — and the red cross in geneva is supposed to visit prisoners of war, but the _ supposed to visit prisoners of war, but the thing is they are not even prisoners— but the thing is they are not even prisoners of war. they are innocent civilians _ prisoners of war. they are innocent civilians who — prisoners of war. they are innocent civilians who were violently abutted from their _ civilians who were violently abutted from their homes so this isjust civilians who were violently abutted from their homes so this is just a crime _ from their homes so this is just a crime against humanity that was committed by hamas. and every that they are _ committed by hamas. and every that they are still here is another day they are still here is another day the crime — they are still here is another day the crime against humanity is committed and the entire government should _ committed and the entire government should do— committed and the entire government should do everything for the immediate and unconditional release of all hostages. because they are innocent — of all hostages. because they are innocent people there. in of all hostages. because they are innocent people there.— of all hostages. because they are innocent people there. in my detail of everything _ innocent people there. in my detail of everything you — innocent people there. in my detail of everything you have _ innocent people there. in my detail of everything you have set - innocent people there. in my detail of everything you have set and - of everything you have set and it's all very important context, what do you make currently of the international calls for a humanitarian pause and some calls for a cease—fire altogether? i humanitarian pause and some calls for a cease-fire altogether?- for a cease-fire altogether? i think that calling — for a cease-fire altogether? i think that calling for _ for a cease-fire altogether? i think that calling for a _ for a cease-fire altogether? i think that calling for a cease-fire - that calling for a cease—fire without _ that calling for a cease—fire without calling for the immediate and unconditional release of hostages is supporting terror. because — hostages is supporting terror. because this is what the first thing that this _ because this is what the first thing that this wart was. it was murdering, abducting innocent civilians. — murdering, abducting innocent civilians, and i remind you that on 0ctoher— civilians, and i remind you that on october the — civilians, and i remind you that on october the 6th, the day before the attack, _ october the 6th, the day before the attack, there was a cease—fire in place _ attack, there was a cease—fire in place so— attack, there was a cease—fire in place. so what is the point of having — place. so what is the point of having a _ place. so what is the point of having a cease—fire now? if there is a release _ having a cease—fire now? if there is a release of— having a cease—fire now? if there is a release of all hostages, out there might— a release of all hostages, out there might be _ a release of all hostages, out there might be a — a release of all hostages, out there might be a possibility for a cease—fire and for humanitarian aid to come _ cease—fire and for humanitarian aid to come in— cease—fire and for humanitarian aid to come in but before doing that if you talk— to come in but before doing that if you talk about military and eight or cease-fire — you talk about military and eight or cease—fire without talking about innocent — cease—fire without talking about innocent civilians or the tunnels held _ innocent civilians or the tunnels held by— innocent civilians or the tunnels held by a — innocent civilians or the tunnels held by a vicious terror organisation that we all saw what the capable ofjohn but you don't worry— the capable ofjohn but you don't worry and — the capable ofjohn but you don't worry and we don't know how the two hostages _ worry and we don't know how the two hostages were killed who were foundm — hostages were killed who were foundm - _ hostages were killed who were found... ., . ., ., found... . you are not concerned of the scale of — found... . you are not concerned of the scale of the _ found... . you are not concerned of the scale of the bombardment - found... . you are not concerned of the scale of the bombardment and | found... . you are not concerned of i the scale of the bombardment and the ferocity of the attack on gaza puts these hostages at risk? 50 t ferocity of the attack on gaza puts these hostages at risk?— these hostages at risk? so i don't think so because _ these hostages at risk? so i don't think so because i _ these hostages at risk? so i don't think so because i think _ these hostages at risk? so i don't think so because i think that - these hostages at risk? so i don't l think so because i think that hamas first is— think so because i think that hamas first is able — think so because i think that hamas first is able to keep safe or they want _ first is able to keep safe or they want to— first is able to keep safe or they want to keep safe. this is how hamas leaders are _ want to keep safe. this is how hamas leaders are still safe and are still alive _ leaders are still safe and are still alive. second, i saw the video of the soldier that was killed, noa marciano. — the soldier that was killed, noa marciano, and also the video and the injuries— marciano, and also the video and the injuries she _ marciano, and also the video and the injuries she had is not from bombing _ injuries she had is not from bombing. herankles injuries she had is not from bombing. her ankles were cut with knives _ bombing. her ankles were cut with knives you — bombing. her ankles were cut with knives. you can see the cuts. this is not _ knives. you can see the cuts. this is not something that's bombing but 'ust is not something that's bombing but just hamas propaganda saying that it was the _ just hamas propaganda saying that it was the israeli government that did it. �* , ., . it. and just on that when you're desperately _ it. and just on that when you're desperately waiting _ it. and just on that when you're desperately waiting for - it. and just on that when you're desperately waiting for news i it. and just on that when you're. desperately waiting for news and it. and just on that when you're - desperately waiting for news and all the worry and fear and anger, i guess, that is associated with that, when you hear of these deaths, this 19—year—old corporal and a mother of five, how do you react to that because i would imagine all the hostage families are talking to one another. we visibly know their families, correct?— another. we visibly know their families, correct? yeah, i do. i know noa _ families, correct? yeah, i do. i know noa marciano's _ families, correct? yeah, i do. i know noa marciano's mother. l families, correct? yeah, i do. i know noa marciano's mother. i families, correct? yeah, i do. i- know noa marciano's mother. i spent a week— know noa marciano's mother. i spent a week with _ know noa marciano's mother. i spent a week with her talking to politicians in the us and trying to call for— politicians in the us and trying to call for the — politicians in the us and trying to call for the immediate and unconditional release of hostages, so, yeah. — unconditional release of hostages, so, yeah. it — unconditional release of hostages, so, yeah, it broke my heart hearing the news _ so, yeah, it broke my heart hearing the news and seeing the video. and, you know. _ the news and seeing the video. and, you know. i— the news and seeing the video. and, you know, iwant the news and seeing the video. and, you know, i want to say most of the people _ you know, i want to say most of the people that — you know, i want to say most of the people that were again violently murdered, raped and evicted from their homes were and still are peace activists _ their homes were and still are peace activists. they support palestinian rights _ activists. they support palestinian rights. they did not dissipate in so many— rights. they did not dissipate in so many programmes throughout the years — many programmes throughout the years my— many programmes throughout the years. my aunt and uncle who are right— years. my aunt and uncle who are right now— years. my aunt and uncle who are right now held by hamas, that used to take _ right now held by hamas, that used to take sick— right now held by hamas, that used to take sick children and people from _ to take sick children and people from gaza — to take sick children and people from gaza into israeli hospitals for medical— from gaza into israeli hospitals for medical treatments. and these people from and _ medical treatments. and these people from and you can see this as a socialist— from and you can see this as a socialist movement in eight kibbutz that is— socialist movement in eight kibbutz that is left—wing. they support coexistence. they support human rights _ coexistence. they support human rights. they care for palestinian rights — rights. they care for palestinian rights. these are people that suffered _ rights. these are people that suffered the most brutal attack by hamas _ suffered the most brutal attack by hamas. and i think, again, anyone who believes in human rights anyone who believes in human rights anyone who believes in humanity and anyone who believes in humanity and anyone who advocates for human rights, everyone — who advocates for human rights, everyone there should support the immediate and unconditional release of paul— immediate and unconditional release of paul alsojust because immediate and unconditional release of paul also just because they are innocent — of paul also just because they are innocent civilians and my cousin is nine _ innocent civilians and my cousin is nine years— innocent civilians and my cousin is nine years old. he had his ninth birthday in— nine years old. he had his ninth birthday in captivity in the hands of hamas — birthday in captivity in the hands of hamas. today there is another video— of hamas. today there is another video of— of hamas. today there is another video of another girl who is also nine _ video of another girl who is also nine there _ video of another girl who is also nine. there are over 13 kids, kids not soldiers. _ nine. there are over 13 kids, kids not soldiers, innocent kids that are held by— not soldiers, innocent kids that are held by hamas alive, i hope, i don't held by hamas alive, i hope, idon't know— held by hamas alive, i hope, i don't know because the red cross is not visit the _ know because the red cross is not visit the hostages. but over 30 kids, _ visit the hostages. but over 30 kids, including ten—month—old baby, a ten—month—old baby! this is unimaginable. we don't know if his mother— unimaginable. we don't know if his mother is— unimaginable. we don't know if his mother is with them or if he is getting — mother is with them or if he is getting his formula or if anyone is changing — getting his formula or if anyone is changing his diapers. we don't know anything _ changing his diapers. we don't know anything. and hamas violently abutted — anything. and hamas violently abutted them from their homes and they filmed everything. it's all filmed — they filmed everything. it's all filmed. it's not fake news or something. they took them from their homes _ something. they took them from their homes and _ something. they took them from their homes and they are now held by hamas — homes and they are now held by hamas. and the entire world and entire _ hamas. and the entire world and entire international community should — entire international community should do everything to release them immediately. i should do everything to release them immediately-— immediately. i am pressed for time a little bit, immediately. i am pressed for time a little bit. but — immediately. i am pressed for time a little bit, but listen, _ immediately. i am pressed for time a little bit, but listen, we _ immediately. i am pressed for time a little bit, but listen, we are _ little bit, but listen, we are sending you and yourfamily little bit, but listen, we are sending you and your family the best and we hope for the safe return of your loved ones. they can for coming of the programme tonight. thank you ve much. around the world and across the uk, this is bbc news. let's look at some other stories making news. two 12—year—old boys have been remanded into youth custody after being charged with the murder of a 19—year—old man in wolverhampton who was stabbed on playing fields near a school in east park on monday. the boys, who appeared at birmingham magistrates�* court, cannot be named due to their age. a sheffield wednesday supporter who taunted rival fans by mocking the death of mascot bradley lowery has been given a 12—week suspended prison sentence. dale houghton was seen laughing as he held up an image of the six—year—old at a match against sunderland, the team bradley supported before he died of cancer in 2017. the government says an £8 billion fund will be made available to councils in england over the next decade to help tackle potholes. the transport secretary, mark harper, said motorists would immediately see improvements in road conditions. councils, on the other hand, say the cost of repairing local roads is closer to £14 billion. you're live with bbc news. what a difference a week makes in politics. last week, suella braverman was home secretary and standing full square behind the government's plan to send asylum—seekers to rwanda. a week later, she is out, the supreme court has deemed the policy illegal and ms braverman is now a vocal critic of rishi sunak�*s handling of the entire affair. today, writing in the telegraph, she called the prime minister's plan to revive the policy magical thinking. she wants government to pass emergency legislation through the christmas period that would set aside human rights law and would deny any future legal challenges. 0ur political correspondent iain watson has more. joining me now is dr s chelvan, an immigration barrister and adjunct professor at southampton law school. thank you very much for coming on the programme, good to see you again. can you tell me with respect to what you are hearing about the revised plan do you think what he's getting into, the prime minister, was set aside the supreme court a second time around? i was set aside the supreme court a second time around?— second time around? i think the roll ist inr second time around? i think the roll ist he to second time around? i think the roll is trying to get _ second time around? i think the roll is trying to get away _ second time around? i think the roll is trying to get away from _ is trying to get away from the supreme court is much as possible. we start of the week with such an amazing example of how the british constitution works, with british judges in a british court applying british law to make it quite clear that we cannot send refugees to rwanda where they are substantial grounds or a real risk they will suffer persecution and harm by being returned back to their countries of origin, including afghanistan, syria and yemen. and now we are having a prime minister which sort of in effect sense of the house of lords of don't allow this distinct but inflation to go through, i'm going to have to call an election. now my clear concern is in relation to the five—point plan of suella braverman in relation to trying to circumvent the rule of law and that's what we cannot have in the uk. this is not a foreign court which ruled the policy unlawful. it was our british court, the supreme court.— unlawful. it was our british court, the supreme court. there are other countries exploring _ the supreme court. there are other countries exploring eight _ the supreme court. there are other countries exploring eight rwanda i countries exploring eight rwanda style policy, germany, italy, denmark and all said they are looking at this will simply send the very idea processing asylum—seekers and a third country is notjust... the united nations high commissioner of the bee gees has made it very clear... even if they were safe and a third country? we clear. .. even if they were safe and a third country?— a third country? we are to take responsibility. _ a third country? we are to take responsibility, and _ a third country? we are to take responsibility, and it's - a third country? we are to take responsibility, and it's very - responsibility, and it's very important that those who will come to the uk to claim asylum have their asylum claims process and is not just my position but it's the un high commission of refugees. that's our response ability under the treaties, and is very important and they made it quite clear that this is not a battle between the uk and the european convention on human rights of some is not only the 1951 refugee convention protocol and the principle of non—reform under article 33 and not only article three of the european convention of human rights but also our treaty obligations under the un against torture and primary legislation... i only have a minute left, but there'll be some who say these human rights conventions are out of date and some were drawn up postwar. they did not foresee the mass movement of tens of thousands of people. are theyin tens of thousands of people. are they in need of revision? trio. tens of thousands of people. are they in need of revision? no, they are livinr they in need of revision? no, they are living instrumental _ they in need of revision? no, they are living instrumental to - they in need of revision? no, they are living instrumental to better i are living instrumental to better protect you and not against the overreaching of the state in relation to our fundamental human rights. these are conventions which are primarily written by british legislators and directors which protect all of us and not as refugees and if we attack the most vulnerable and marginalised people in society and erode their human rights, then you and i are next. doctor, always good to get your thoughts, thank you very much we will watch that closely. we expect her legislation and suella braverman wants it before christmas we will see whether that is the case. do stay with us as we talk about ukraine and draught dodgers at the other side of the break. use it with us for that. hello again. well, it's been a lovely sunny day across the vast majority of the country with blue skies, some wonderful autumn colours at the moment, but our weather won't be looking like this as we head into the weekend — no, because we leave behind this slice of sunshine and we have to look out into the atlantic to this area of cloud. this is an area of low pressure that's going to be bringing us some wet and some windy weather, both on saturday and on sunday, as well. the winds coming in from a south—westerly direction and they will ultimately be bringing in some much milder weather conditions. back to tonight's forecast, first of all, and we've got that rain beginning to arrive, pushing its way steadily north and eastwards with the wind strengthening, particularly into coastal areas of western scotland where, by the end of the night, we will probably see some gusts of around as—ssmph. but it is one of those nights where temperatures will be rising through the night across the south—west, so by dawn, we're looking at temperatures of around 1a degrees. and in terms of the rainfall on saturday, we're all going to get some, but it's across south—west england where there are one 01’ two concerns. 15—30 millimetres of rain — in the grand scheme of autumn lows that's not a huge amount, but across this part of the uk, we've already seen well over the november average rainfall so far, so this extra rain could cause one or two problems with surface water flooding. the rain band does push its way through, a lot of cloud following. then come the showers, with blustery winds everywhere, but particularly so for a time across the western coasts of scotland. it will be a mild day, milder than it was on friday, with temperatures for most between around 12—16 degrees. 0n into sunday's forecast, and low pressure is moving across into northern scotland — not particularly windy here. the strongest winds will be heading into the south—west of england, where we could see some gusts of 405, maybe even 50s in miles—an—hour. the wettest weather for northern ireland, northern england and north wales, with rain looking like it's going to be quite persistent here. it will be another mild day, temperatures around 12—14 degrees for most. that area of low pressure starts to slip away into monday. we'll get these north—westerly winds feeding in, so it's going to start to feel a little bit cooler and the rain will tend to turn a bit more showery in nature. then a slightly quieter spell of weather towards the middle part of the week. we then start to see the weather turning colder and, for some, might start to see some snow showers over the mountains of northern scotland by the end of the week. hello, i'm christian fraser. you're watching the context on bbc news. a special investigation by the bbc has discovered many thousands of men fleeing ukraine illegally to avoid being drafted to fight against russia. sport and for a full round—up, from the bbc sport centre, here's 0llie foster. big night of international football across europe with nations closing in on qualificaton for next years euro's in germany. some are already there — england qualifying with two games to spare. tonight they're up against malta — they lead thank to an own goal in the same group — italy can go second by beating north 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