Difficult and these are times where i break, and i dont want to break right now because i want to keep pushing for the release of my mum and the release of my brother. Were faced with an explosive powder keg situation. The Imposition Of Sieges that endanger the lives of civilians by depriving them of Goods Essential for their survival is prohibited under International Humanitarian law. Good evening. Israelis and palestinians in gaza are spending a fourth night being bombarded by rockets and missiles as Israeli Defence forces and hamas militants continue fighting. Tonight, new details have emerged of a massacre in one Israeli Community near gaza, where a general says children and mothers were murdered in their homes. Well have the latest global reaction, including from President Biden, whos promised full us support for israel in its war with hamas, and described the attacks by hamas militants as An Act Of Sheer Evil. And as usual reaction from our panel. Floridas 18th Lieutenant GovernorJennifer Carroll. And joining us from the Labour Party Conference in liverpool, the former leader of the scottish labour party, jim murphy. Israel is continuing its intense campaign ofairstrikes on gaza as fighting rages into a fourth night. These are the latest pictures from gaza rockets exploded over gaza city and israels Southern City of ashkelon, as both sides continue their aerial bombardment. Palestinian Officials Say more than 830 people have been killed by the strikes. This is gaza earlier today. Un aid agencies have warned of the severe consequences of israels siege on the territory. And the scale of the massacre of israeli civilians by hamas gunmen in Southern Israel has been revealed. The Israeli Army Says entire families were killed in their homes, with children among the dead. Jeremy bowen gave us the latest on those claims from the israeli army. Well, it seems pretty clear that there was a massacre because as i said in the piece, the army didnt get in there, the israeli army didnt even start trying to regain the area for 12 hours after hamas got in there. So basically they were able to rampage around. The Senior Officers there told me that the kibbutz civilian guard, which was composed of people with military experience, that they fought, they tried to fight back, but there werent many of them. And they got killed and their bodies are among those being recovered today. Outside, as you saw in the piece, there was a woman who was under a purple sleeping bag. One of the soldiers said to me that an officer said to me that shed been beheaded. I have to say i did not move the covering to see if he was telling the truth, but she was undoubtedly killed in the front garden of her own house. So i think the word massacre is appropriate to what happened there. But what struck me in kfar aza was that it really does sum up all the reasons why israelis are so shocked, traumatised, why theyre so angry, why they want not just revenge, but the government wants to change the strategic equation in gaza so hamas cant do anything like this again. But this is the middle east. Its a volatile area and the way ahead is not smooth for anybody. As israelis mourn gaza is also reeling from relentless missile attacks. The United Nations has told israel that its siege of the territory is illegal with food, water and power all cut off. The bbc has a rare insight into the gaza strip through our correspondent, rushdi abu alouf. Hes lived there his entire life and has reported on the conflict for decades. As im sure you will understand the situation there is extremely dangerous so much so that its not possible for him to report live for us this evening but he has sent us this update from gaza. We can see the scale of destruction in this neighbourhood. Its called rimal neighbourhood. Its an economic hub for gaza that has been completely targeted yesterday. Many buildings were destroyed, behind Me An Ii Storey Building was knocked down two days ago but the destruction in this area has been targeted last night. Israel has carried out 200 air strikes targeting hamas infrastructure. They hit many buildings, government buildings belonging to the hamas run authority. But look at the scale of destruction in the area and how civilian homes were completely affected and some of them were completely destroyed. This gentleman just told us we have to leave the area because it seems the israelis are warning residents of the area they should leave, they are going to target another building in the area. But look at the scale of destruction. This is happening, with israelis targeting housing, shops, ministries and mosques, everything. The whole neighbourhood was levelled to zero. This is one of the most important economic hubs for gaza. As you can see, most of the shops were damaged, houses were damaged, the infrastructure, the street. This is the street that leads to the southern part of the city and it is completely blocked. Rushdi abualouf with that update. To discuss this all further im joined now by. Lets start with the jennifer it lets start with thejennifer it is been a difficult four days to process. What are your thoughts on how things will be Going Forward ever once anticipating when israel may have a land incursion. It is absolutely may have a land incursion. It is absolutely horrific may have a land incursion. It 3 absolutely horrific and everything the commentators have stated before is Heart Wrenching to know that an attack like this in the 21st century is occurring. Where do we go from here . America and the allies of israel have to step up. They must step up and step up quickly and fiercely. Because hamas, the iranian regime, the pistil liens palestinians have been involved in and picked the perfect time in understanding the weaknesses in the iron dome that have worked for israel for so long that with the barrage of missiles attack and all simultaneously is going to begin its defences. They have found that out, whether it was the equipment left in afghanistan or whether it was technology that was shared by the chinese and whether it was the monies that have been relieved for them to have access from the iranians to provide this intel and technology so that they can attack israel. But now is a time for no more talking. That israel and its allies must act quickly to let hamas and the iranians and palestinians that the sort of massacre is not going to be tolerated at all across the world. Jim going to be tolerated at all across the world. , ~ , going to be tolerated at all across the world. ~ , � , the world. Jim murphy lets bring ou win. The world. Jim murphy lets bring you win he the world. Jim murphy lets bring you win. He sought the world. Jim murphy lets bring you win. He sought the the world. Jim murphy lets bring you win. He sought the death the world. Jim murphy lets bring| you win. He sought the death toll rises on both sides. We saw more is really, the number of israelis who have been killed, the death toll has gone up and indeed the scene with palestinians in gaza. What has been the reaction where you are at the Labour Party Conference . The reaction where you are at the Labour Party Conference . Direct at the labour Labour Party Conference . Direct at the labour party Labour Party Conference . Direct at the Labour Party Conference Labour Party Conference . Direct at the Labour Party Conference here i Labour Party Conference . Direct at| the Labour Party Conference here in liverpool the Labour Party Conference here in liverpool on the Labour Party Conference here in liverpool on the morning of these heinous liverpool on the morning of these heinous attacks. And itsjust liverpool on the morning of these heinous attacks. And its just a sense heinous attacks. And its just a sense of heinous attacks. And its just a sense of shock. A sense of how was it allowed sense of shock. A sense of how was it allowed to sense of shock. A sense of how was it allowed to happen, what with the security it allowed to happen, what with the security failures, what with the intelligence failures. How could someone intelligence failures. How could someone behave in such a barbaric way where someone behave in such a barbaric way where in adult walks into a family way where in adult walks into a family home and executes every Member Family Home and executes every member of the family including the children member of the family including the children. That is no way in which humans children. That is no way in which humans are children. That is no way in which humans are meant to behave towards one anotheh humans are meant to behave towards one another. Sol humans are meant to behave towards one another. So i think what i would say is, one another. So i think what i would say is, this one another. So i think what i would say is, this is one another. So i think what i would say is, this is the first time i have say is, this is the first time i have spoken about this and i think for your have spoken about this and i think for your viewers who are understandably shocked by the images. Understandably shocked by the images, it is important to recap why this has images, it is important to recap why this has happened without ever explaining it. It is happening because explaining it. It is happening because hamas, a terrorist organisation are terrified that Israei Organisation are terrified that israel and saudi arabia are set to sin israel and saudi arabia are set to sign a israel and saudi arabia are set to sign a normalisation agreement. And that unsettles iran who of course are the that unsettles iran who of course are the funders and enablers of hamas are the funders and enablers of hamas. The worry was that that arrangement between israel and saudi arabia arrangement between israel and saudi arabia would begin iran and what they wanted was to make it impossible for saudi arabia to sign a deal impossible for saudi arabia to sign a deal with impossible for saudi arabia to sign a deal with israel therefore tragically what hamas needs and what hamas tragically what hamas needs and what hamas expects is significant casualties in gaza to make it more difficult casualties in gaza to make it more difficult for casualties in gaza to make it more difficult for the saudis to sign an agreement with israel. We difficult for the saudis to sign an agreement with israel. Agreement with israel. We will discuss that agreement with israel. We will discuss that and agreement with israel. We will discuss that and the agreement with israel. We will discuss that and the Wider Agreement with israel. We will discuss that and the wider regional impacts of that later in the programme, but for the moment thank you very much to our panel. Around the world and across the uk. This is bbc news. Lets look at some other stories making news across the uk. The International Monetary found says the uk faces another five years of high Interest Rates to stem rising prices. The organisation expects the uk to have the highest inflation and slowest growth next year of any g7 economy, including the us, france, germany, canada, italy and japan. Holly willoughby has told itv she will not return to this morning, adding it had been an honour to just be part of its story, but that she had to make this decision for her and her family. A 36 year old man was last week charged over an alleged plot to kidnap and murder willoughby. She had presented the programme for ia years. The home office says its begun notifying Asylum Seekers they will be sent back to a migrant barge off englands south coast, after the vessel completed all necessary tests. 39 men were moved on to the vessel in august, but they were removed when the Legionella Bacteria was found onboard. Youre live with bbc news. Weve seen more reaction today from world leaders. Un human rights Chief Volker Turk condemned what he called Horrifying Mass Killings by members of Palestinian Armed groups, and israels Imposition Of Sieges that endanger the lives of civilians. He added that both were against international law. And President Biden has been speaking to the american people. He confirmed americans are among the dead and those being held hostage by hamas. He also called the attacks from hamas An Act Of Sheer Evil and that the us is ready to send additional assets to israel to give it any support needed to respond to hamas. Brutality of hamas and its bloodthirstiness brings to mind the worst, the worst rampages of isis. This is terrorism. But sadly for the jewish people, its not new. This attack is brought to the surface, painful memories and the scars left by millennia of anti semitism and genocide of the jewish people. So in this moment, we must be crystal clear. We stand with israel. And we will make sure that it has what it needs to take care of its citizens, defend itself and respond to this attack. Theres no justification for terrorism. Theres no excuse. Hamas does not stand for the palestinians peoples right to dignity and self determination. The stated purpose is the annihilation of the state of israel and the murder ofjewish people. They use Palestinian Civilians as human shields. Hamas offers nothing but terror and bloodshed with no regard to who pays the price. The loss of innocent life is heartbreaking. Like every nation in the world, israel has the right to respond, indeed has a duty to respond to these vicious attacks. Us President Joe Biden there. And here in the uk, david lammy, a labour mp and a Shadow Foreign Secretary has been speaking at the Labour Friends Of Palestine event in liverpool. Have a listen. I think of the children of gaza, facing the reality of war in a place that was already bereft of hope. Organisations and Medical Aid For Palestinians are doing essential and life saving work to support people on the ground. I pay tribute to your staff working in the most difficult of conditions to help save lives. I agree with president macron when he said, we must not confuse the fight against terrorism with the most elementary humanitarian right support for civilian populations. There needs to be humanitarian access and supplies to gaza. We must distinguish between hamas and the palestinian people. Because failing to do so would only embolden terrorists and punish the wrong people. As i said on the conference floor yesterday, there will not be a just and lasting peace until israel is secure, palestine is a sovereign state and both israelis and palestinians enjoy security, dignity and human rights. Lets go back to our panel. Jennifer carroll who is a republican and Lieutenant Governor in florida and the former leader of the Scottish Labour Partyjim Murphy who is at the Labour Party Conference in liverpool at the moment. Jennifer lets bring you in on those comments from david lammy. There is a real concern that as the conflict drags on, more civilians will be caught up in it. He wasjust on, more civilians will be caught up in it. He was just saying there that people need to distinguish between hamas and the palestinian people. He is urging israel to ensure that humanitarian aid to does get through to people who need it in gaza. What you make of that . He to people who need it in gaza. What you make of that . You make of that . He is right on all fronts. You make of that . He is right on all fronts here you make of that . He is right on all fronts. Here is you make of that . He is right on all fronts. Here is the you make of that . He is right on all fronts. Here is the problem. You make of that . He is right on all fronts. Here is the problem. We you make of that . He is right on all. Fronts. Here is the problem. We have seen hamas as well as hezbollah get right into the mix of women and children in the civilian population and act as murder so they have been disguised in an area where it was attacked martyr. Disguised in an area where it was attacked martyr. Attacked martyr. Surely aid it needs to get attacked martyr. Surely aid it needs to get to attacked martyr. Surely aid it needs to get to people attacked martyr. Surely aid it. Needs to get to people regardless. Most definitely and that is why it is so critical for the allies of israel to get on the ground to assist in this both humanitarian effort as full as the War Fighting Effort as full as the War Fighting Effort because many people as we saw folks who went to that concert that were abducted, murdered, that people who were murdered right in their homes, barbaric way, that we need to make sure that the security is in place to stop that and also ensure that the people that are civilians that the people that are civilians that have nothing to do with this attack on both sides, but the palestinian and israel side, that those people are cared for. That they have shelter, food, water, clothing and counselling because this came out of the blue. This is a psychological impact on many of these children and women and families that is reminiscent of the old jewish. When they had the massacre on thejews so this will be something that will be forever lasting that we will have to be there, and a humanitarian respect for many years to come. Something that has just for many years to come. Something that hasjust come for many years to come. Something that hasjust come into for many years to come. Something that hasjust come into the for many years to come. Something l that hasjust come into the newsroom that has just come into the newsroom that has just come into the newsroom that says the Us Strike Group has now arrived in the Eastern Mediterranean seeking to deter any actor who is going to escalate the situation. What do you make of the fact that some American Assets now have been moved closer. Thea;r fact that some American Assets now have been moved closer. They move very swiftly have been moved closer. They move very swiftly and have been moved closer. They move very swiftly and i have been moved closer. They move very swiftly and i appreciate have been moved closer. They move very swiftly and i appreciate the very swiftly and i appreciate the Department Of Defence ensure that movement of the Carrier Group to get there but we also need boots on the ground because this is a different type of war fighting now. Using Drone Technology and we have our naval ships and we also need boots on the ground because israel yesterday called out their reservists and some reservists that were supporting the Palestinian Movement afoot and was rejecting the israeli attempts for some of their policies did not want to sign up in the reserves. So for those individuals, but dont want to sign up individuals, but dont want to sign up in the reserves to help the country, that we will need to have their allies including the us to have boots on the ground as well. It have boots on the ground as well. It is to be clear. You think us boots on the ground should be sent in . Absolutely. I on the ground should be sent in . Absolutely absolutely. I will bring jim into res ond absolutely. I will bring jim into respond to absolutely. I will bring jim into respond to that. Absolutely. I will bring jim into respond to that. What absolutely. I will bring jim into respond to that. What do absolutely. I will bring jim into respond to that. What do you think, that would be a real escalation, wouldnt it . I that would be a real escalation, wouldnt it . Wouldnt it . I at the Labour Party Conference wouldnt it . I at the Labour Party Conference might wouldnt it . I at the Labour Party Conference might followed wouldnt it . I at the Labour Party Conference might followed every| conference might followed every twist and turn to this but my Immediate Response to that is would be the Immediate Response to that is would be the last Immediate Response to that is would be the last thing that the situation needs be the last thing that the situation needs. American soldiers on the grounds needs. American soldiers on the grounds is needs. American soldiers on the grounds is the last thing the president would want to do. Its easy president would want to do. Its easy to president would want to do. Its easy to put us on the ground is hard to get easy to put us on the ground is hard to get them easy to put us on the ground is hard to get them out again. Before you commit to get them out again. Before you commit troops and that is and before you out commit troops and that is and before you put your commit troops and that is and before you put your remarkably big women and men you put your remarkably big women and men in you put your remarkably big women and men in uniform you need to know what scenario and men in uniform you need to know what scenario in which you would remove what scenario in which you would remove them from harms way and i think remove them from harms way and i think it remove them from harms way and i think it is remove them from harms way and i think it is a remove them from harms way and i think it is a kneejerk, i hope you dont think it is a kneejerk, i hope you dont mind think it is a kneejerk, i hope you dont mind me saying this, i think it is a dont mind me saying this, i think it is a kneejerk Strategic Response to a very it is a kneejerk Strategic Response to a very complicated situation. There to a very complicated situation. There are to a very complicated situation. There are reasons why israelis are refusing there are reasons why israelis are refusing to there are reasons why israelis are refusing to serve. I dont take sides refusing to serve. Idont take sides on refusing to serve. I dont take sides on that. They are simply so opposed sides on that. They are simply so opposed to sides on that. They are simply so opposed to the current Israeli Government and the idea that the American Government and the idea that the American Public goes to defend israei American Public goes to defend israel because israelis want to offend israel because israelis want to offend them, i think that is wrong. Ithink offend them, i think that is wrong. I think that offend them, i think that is wrong. I think that may be quite unpopular as as we gear up for a us election. It might be but i think we need to understand that dynamic and Strategic Plan for and Exit Strategy including a recent world wars including a recent world wars including afghanistan and Exit Strategy was not had. However, we did have foreign war fighters in afghanistan to assist weather with training or warfighting and we will have to take the is really a lead on this because if they do not have the manpower to help themselves to protect themselves, than their allies will have to step in. Irate protect themselves, than their allies will have to step in. We will be back with allies will have to step in. We will be back with you allies will have to step in. We will be back with you in allies will have to step in. We will be back with you in a moment. I allies will have to step in. We willl be back with you in a moment. Jim allies will have to step in. We will be back with you in a moment. Jim do you want to come in. Im told we have to move on but lets move on because he shaking your head. Ianthem because he shaking your head. When im on the context because he shaking your head. When im on the context i because he shaking your head. When im on the context i try to because he shaking your head. When im on the context i try to agree with im on the context i try to agree with everyone. Does the culture of the show. With everyone. Does the culture of the show, but i do think the idea that a the show, but i do think the idea that a republican politician is synced that a republican politician is synced to a democratic president the year before synced to a democratic president the year before general election that it needs year before general election that it needs to year before general election that it needs to put boots on the ground, when needs to put boots on the ground, when the needs to put boots on the ground, when the American Public are unwilling when the American Public are unwilling to put a pilot in the sky over unwilling to put a pilot in the sky over ukraine and a mass war in europe, over ukraine and a mass war in europe, i over ukraine and a mass war in europe, ithink over ukraine and a mass war in europe, i think it is inconsistent, and strategic and unthinking. Jennifer . And strategic and unthinking. Jennifer . ~. ,. ,. , jennifer . With regards to the war in ukraine president jennifer . With regards to the war in ukraine president has jennifer . With regards to the war in ukraine president has not jennifer . With regards to the war in ukraine president has not asked jennifer . With regards to the war in ukraine president has not asked forj ukraine president has not asked for our boots on the ground but we have had people training there, their war fighters whether it is on the civilian capacity, or in a pseudo military capacity and for distributed more money to ukraine then we have two israel in recent times as well. Not saying that is our immediate to put boots on the carpet certainly to have it as an option on the table. Carpet certainly to have it as an option on the table. Jennifer, Ust A Follow Up option on the table. Jennifer, Ust A Follow Up on � option on the table. Jennifer, Ust A Follow Up on that, i option on the table. Jennifer, Ust A Follow Up on that, i i option on the table. Jennifer, jUst A Follow Up on that, i remember. Option on the table. Jennifer, jUst A Follow Up on that, i remember when i was in america covering american politics, it was george bush and barack obama who both said they wanted to get troops back from various conflicts including afghanistan, as you mention. So we didnt really float with even republicans . Didnt really float with even republicans . Didnt really float with even reublicans . , ~ republicans . Would it. Ithink ou republicans . Would it. Ithink you would republicans . Would it. Ithink you would with republicans . Would it. Ithink you would with israel republicans . Would it. Ithink you would with israel because i republicans . Would it. Ithink| you would with israel because we have such a strong ally relationship with israel and with all president s in recent times and the American Public, we have a great contingent of people from either israel, first or second generation, that reside across this country that the support would be there for israel if we were to get that deep into this conflict. Like i said it has to be something thatis like i said it has to be something that is a request from the Israeli Government to say this is what we want our allies to help us with. Before that, i want to say, there may be support for israel but whether there is support actually from american boots on the ground is another separate issue in a way. But jim, come back on that. I another separate issue in a way. But jim, come back on that. Jim, come back on that. I think that President Biden jim, come back on that. I think that President Biden has jim, come back on that. I think that President Biden has taken jim, come back on that. I think that President Biden has taken the jim, come back on that. I think that President Biden has taken the right| President Biden has taken the right step so President Biden has taken the right step so far. Having the air carriers strike step so far. Having the air Carriers Strike Group step so far. Having the air Carriers Strike Group in proximity as a deterrent strike group in proximity as a deterrent is the right posture. Of course deterrent is the right posture. Of course there may be need for a limited course there may be need for a limited number of military advisers to support limited number of military advisers to support the israelis and work alongside to support the israelis and work alongside them, but the idea that what the alongside them, but the idea that what the middle east needs right now is the what the middle east needs right now is the mass deployment of us troops on the is the mass deployment of us troops on the grounds would be a remarkable strategic on the grounds would be a remarkable strategic mistake. Of course the things strategic mistake. Of course the things have to be kept under review, but i things have to be kept under review, but i think things have to be kept under review, but i think President Biden in putting but i think President Biden in putting these naval assets very publicly putting these naval assets very publicly and commenting on them, within publicly and commenting on them, within Strike Capability of us strategic enemies particularly, are wrong, strategic enemies particularly, are wrong, particularly as the right place wrong, particularly as the right place to wrong, particularly as the right place to be at this time. And i think place to be at this time. And i think it place to be at this time. And i think it would be remarkably escalatory and un strategic to Talk About Escalatory and un strategic to talk about The Escalatory and un strategic to talk about The Mass Placing of us troops. On about The Mass Placing of us troops. 0n israeli about The Mass Placing of us troops. 0n israeli or about The Mass Placing of us troops. On israeli or any other soil. Jim murh on israeli or any other soil. Jim murphy and on israeli or any other soil. J n murphy and Jennifer Carroll we will be back with you shortly. So stay with us here on the context. Coming up with us here on the context. Coming up next, the labour� s keir starmer it lays out his plan for a decade of renewal under labour. Sir keir starmer was of course speaking in liverpool at the Labour Party Conference as you can see there. We will be discussing all of that further with our panel here on the context. Of course, we will have the very latest on the unfolding situation in the middle east. We also have a live page with the very latest from the middle east on the bbc news website. Hello. For the fourth consecutive day temperatures climbed above 25 celsius the highest values in parts of eastern and south eastern england. But it wasnt like that everywhere. Further north and west, we had cloud. We had outbreaks of rain across parts of scotland, hello there. So far this october, weve been building in some pretty big contrasts in terms of rainfall. Parts of the south havent even had a single drop of rain yet, whereas across Northern Scotland, a boy in aberdeenshire, weve already had 113 millimetres of rain. Thats already more than an average october. And of course, were only a third of the way through the month. Then we have these Temperature Contrasts on tuesday, 26 degrees in little near chelmsford in essex, just 13 in lerwick, behind a cold front across the far north of scotland. And over the next few days, as that cold front pushes its way gradually southwards, were going to see those temperatures drop away. And certainly by the time we get to the weekend, well all be feeling as if autumn has firmly arrived. Mind you, for some of us, the temperatures will be dropping as we look at the weather into wednesday. Heres our cold front, bringing some rain southwards, clearing away from scotland and northern ireland. So the Flood Warnings continuing to fall here. But weve got the Rain Heading In across parts of england and wales. A mild start to the day on wednesday here. A much colder start, though, in scotland with temperatures down into low single figures in the countryside. Now weve got this band of rain, this cold friends with us through the day on wednesday, some particularly heavy rain across the hills of mid wales could bring one or two impacts here. Some wet weather as well for the midlands and parts of east anglia for much of the day to the south of our front, its another warm day with temperatures again reaching the twenties. Otherwise, for scotland, northern ireland, northern england, those temperatures will be dropping away and it will be blustery for the far north of scotland to gust reaching 60 miles an hourdrive again. Plenty of showers here now heading through wednesday nights and into thursday. Our weather front sinks across into Southern Parts of england. Its very weak by this stage. Just a few patches of rain. Temperatures for most of us, much closer to the october average. We still have some heat hanging on across the very far south of england. And for a time on friday, we actually get a zone of warmer air pushing back northwards. But with that heavy rain for england, wales, scotland and northern ireland, a day of sunshine and blustery showers. So the cold weather continues across these northern areas. Across the south, more of us will see temperatures climbing back into the high teens to low twenties. But that wont last into the weekend. It will cool down properly with temperatures around about 10 to 1a degrees. And for the mountains of Northern Scotland on saturday, be cold enough for a little bit of snow over the very mountain tops. Thats the latest. Hello, im rajini vaidyanathan. Youre watching the context on bbc news. A glittery protest disrupts the uk labour leaders big speech to the party faithful, but sir keir starmer dusts himself off, pledging to build the next generation of new towns. The labour leader, sir keir starmer, has put the theme of Rebuilding Britain at the centre of his Party Conference speech this afternoon. He said that the country has been ruined by 13 years of conservative rule, and set out plans for a decade of National Renewal if labour wins power. Why labor . Because we serve your interests. Why labor
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