After missing key targets. And spotify� s chief tells the bbc why the Audio Streaming Giant will not ban content created by artificial intelligence. Before we move on, lets return to those live pictures from the last few minutes, because these are just from a few minutes ago, these the recorded pictures of President Biden arriving in michigan, he is heading to detroit, as i was saying in the headlines, tojoin a to detroit, as i was saying in the headlines, to join a striking to detroit, as i was saying in the headlines, Tojoin A Striking car workers, a really important moment, because this would be the first time a sitting us president joins a picket line. Let me take you to the live pictures because the president just arriving, you can see, Air Force One there on the tarmac, and it is going to be interesting over the next couple of days because we have the president doing this, we have the president doing this, we have donald trump heading to the same venue, to michigan as well, to address his supporters in the next 24 address his supporters in the next 2a hours, so back to back meetings of the president and then his likely rival in the 2024 president ial election, and already donald trump has been putting out a statement, i will come to that, but it is going to be interesting today for the president because he has got a slightly typical balance, because he want to support unions, he wants to protect a message that he is the president s for blue collar workers, but of course his push for clean energy, that is potentially putting jobs at risk within the electric vehicle market. That is that visited detroit, and previous President Donald Trump has latched onto that straightaway, the statement he has put out in the last little while, sein joe put out in the last little while, seinjoe biden� s tr 0conee in an indefensible electric vehicle mandate will annihilate the us car industry saying joe biden� s draconian. He is stabbing them in the back. Those, some of the comments from the former president , but the current president heading to the picket lines. As i say, he wants to protect an image of backing blue collar workers, and that is absolutely vital, that sector that supported him so keenly in the last successful election. He wants to cement that for 2024. So those, the pictures coming into us live there from michigan. We have been delaying a round up of the sports news, so lets head to the sport centre. Betty, patiently waiting 0verto you. Always patiently waiting, mathieu thank you. All home nations are in action tonight in the womens nations league. England are looking to make it two wins fom two in their group, in what will be a pretty special occasion for england boss sarina weigman. Shell come up against her home nation and former employer the netherlands. Itll be the first time wiegman has returned to the netherlands with her current side. And former england captain faye white says itll be a tough test. The dutch are a step up again in quality, in the rankings, then what scotland are, and it showed how obviously scotland were in their season, fitness ready, lasted better in the game against england on friday, and i think the dutch will give us another tough test tonight. The excitement is building in rome ahead of the ryder cup, which gets started on friday. Team europe will be looking to extend their home record and win the cup back from the usa. Theyll be trying to do so with a team that features four debutants. Captain luke donald says his team are ready to write a new chapter in ryder cup history. I think every team is different. This is a team that has some new faces and some guys that have been part of the ryder cup that are not here, but they understand it is their opportunity now to write their story and write their history this week and create, start writing and creating that history for themselves, so they are very excited to be here and very ready. Team usa arrived in rome with the trophy, and if they want to hold onto it, theyll have to win a ryder cup on european soil for the first time for 30 years. However, they have a team featuring six of the worlds top ten golfers and believe europes home record wont have any effect on the result this week. We were not on others losing teams. I was on a couple of them, but i played well, so it is like. Justin played well, so it is like. Justin played well. It does not matter to us, i guess. Played well. It does not matter to us, iguess. I played well. It does not matter to us, i guess. Istated played well. It does not matter to us, i guess. I stated at Whistling Straits after the round, i said it this is really nice, but until we win over there, nobody can talk about a change in the ryder cup or the us or anything like that. The european teams have been very stout. Like that. The european teams have been very stout, very like that. The european teams have been very stout, very good, like that. The european teams have been very stout, very good, very i been very stout, very good, very deep, been very stout, very good, very deep, and been very stout, very good, very deep, and this year is no different. It is deep, and this year is no different. It must deep, and this year is no different. It isjust difficult. I know what history it isjust difficult. I know what history says. I am very aware of that history says. I am very aware of that at history says. I am very aware of that at the history says. I am very aware of that. At the same time, i can speak confidently that. At the same time, i can speak confidently and talk to my team. These confidently and talk to my team. These guys are ready and want to embrace these guys are ready and want to embrace that difficulty and want to ust embrace that difficulty and want to just look embrace that difficulty and want to just look at this as a great opportunity. The third and final one Day International between england and ireland has been abandoned due to heavy rain, just as the home side looked to be heading for a massive score. England raced away, scoring over 100 runs in their first ten overs. Ben duckett scored his maiden 0di century and was on 107 from 78 balls before the skies opened at bristol, bringing proceedings to an early end. The teams went off with england on 280 4 after 31 overs. England have won the series 1 0, with the world cup starting in just nine days time. And british Driverjessica Hawkins has become the first woman to test a Formula One Car in five years. She drove 26 laps in Aston Martins 2021 car in hungary last thursday. Hawkins is a former british karting champion and podium finisher in the all female w series. Formula one has not had a woman start a grand prix since Lella Lombardi raced in austria in 1976. Thats all the sport for now. We will be back later. Betty, thanks very much. Just to return to a couple of big stories werejuggling through return to a couple of big stories were juggling through the course of this programme, in de goede karabakh, Nagorno Karabakh, Antonio Gutierrez antonio guterres. Antonio guterres. A lot of concern about armenians in that disputed territory, but many clearing because they fear persecution and ethnic cleansing, but a call from the un chief that those rights should be protected of armenians. The latest interjection from the un as the situation there on the ground increases in terms of just a multitude of problems. Lets return to what we were hearing from washington, from the Home SecretarySuella Braverman. She has said multiculturalism has failed and called for a tightening of the definition of refugee and who qualifies for protection under international treaties. The minister used a speech in washington to question whether the United NationsRefugee Convention was outdated. Lets go back to westminster. Live now to our Political Correspondent, david cornock. Hes been listening to that speech and getting political reaction from here in westminster, and, david, just take us through, because we have been hearing various reactions but from the opposition parties. How they responded to what they heard . As you might spec and asked Suella Braverman would have expected, labour have said that the Home Secretary is simply trying to distract from herfailures in secretary is simply trying to distract from her failures in the Asylum System at home. You will remember that stopping the small boats is one of rishi sunak� s five pledges and the government has struggled to get its Asylum Policy through the court, it is awaiting an important hearing in november over its plans to deport people who arrive here illegally to rwanda, but Suella Braverman argued that she wanted to go further than that, she wanted to go further than that, she wanted a wider change to the Asylum System. She argued that a system created in the aftermath of world war ii created in the aftermath of world war i simply was not really fit for the modern age, but of course it is a convention that 150 countries also have signed up to, so it may be a little unrealistic to think she can change it on her own, but clearly it is a message that will have been heard by people in the Conservative Party who are allies and she hopes maybe they will remember that should there be a Leadership Election in a year or sos time. Year or sos time. David, thanks very much year or sos time. David, thanks very much. Lets year or sos time. David, thanks very much. Lets stay year or sos time. David, thanks very much. Lets stay with year or sos time. David, thanks i very much. Lets stay with politics, because the Liberal Democrat leader ed davey delivered his Closing Speech at his Party Conference in bournemouth this afternoon. He accused the government are breaking promises on the nhs and urged his party to focus on Unseating Conservatives at the next election. He also accused rishi sunak of ditching a ten year cancer plan and called for a new legal right for Cancer Treatment within two months of an urgent referral. Live now to our Political Correspondent peter saull. Peter, health and the Economy Entwined for that central message there from sir ed davey. Entwined for that central message there from sir ed davey. Yeah, that is riuht. There from sir ed davey. Yeah, that is right. Rather there from sir ed davey. Yeah, that is right. Rather than there from sir ed davey. Yeah, that is right. Rather than this there from sir ed davey. Yeah, that is right. Rather than this being is right. Rather than this being a top something, last Conference Speech before the general election, which we are expecting in the next 12 months or so, it was actually deeply personal in tone from sir ed davey. He talked about when he was a child, he lost both his parents, as a teenager, he had had to care for his mother when she was on her deathbed, effectively, and the room was silent while he was doing this kind of thing, and i suppose but he was trying to do was stress that those experiences as a young person had billy informed his politics, so he put health and social care at the heart of the Liberal Democrats offer at that general election when we eventually got there or when we eventually got there or when we eventually get there, and specifically cancer. He announced this plan to give patients the legal right to get treatment within two months. Have a listen to some of the speech here. As many of you know, my brothers and i lost as many of you know, my brothers and i lost both as many of you know, my brothers and i lost both our as many of you know, my brothers and i lost both our parents to cancer when i lost both our parents to cancer when we i lost both our parents to cancer when we were younger. My dad died aed when we were younger. My dad died aged 38. When we were younger. My dad died aged 38, just a few months after being aged 38, just a few months after being diagnosed with a cancer called hodgkins being diagnosed with a cancer called hodgkins lymphoma. I was only four, so i dont hodgkins lymphoma. I was only four, so i dont member it very well. What if you so i dont member it very well. What if you remember is my mums reef and her incredible if you remember is my mums reef and her incredible strength in the months her incredible strength in the months and years that followed my mums months and years that followed my mums reet months and years that followed my mums reef. After being widowed so young mums reef. After being widowed so young with mums reef. After being widowed so young with three boys under ten. Then young with three boys under ten. Then when young with three boys under ten. Then when i was nine, cancer came for mum then when i was nine, cancer came for mum ton then when i was nine, cancer came for mum too. She was diagnosed with breast for mum too. She was diagnosed with Breast Cancer and i do remember how that felt Breast Cancer and i do remember how that felt. She had treatment, including a missed ectomy, but three years including a missed ectomy, but three years later, including a missed ectomy, but three years later, they found secondary breast years later, they found secondary Breast Cancer, cancer in her bones. And they Breast Cancer, cancer in her bones. And they told her it was incurable. And the other big feature of the speech, really, was the sheer number of attacks that he made on the current conservative administration, at one point sir ed davey was a Cabinet Minister in the coalition government, led by the conservatives, but he described the current tory Government Led by rishi sunak as one of the worst, the worst that he had experience in all of his time in politics, and this is a key strategy from the lib dems as we look to the general election. They are going to target specifically tory held seeds, largely in the south of england. They are calling this the blue wall. He called on activists in the room to smash down that blue wall once and for all. For fewer, though, mentions of the labour party. He sought to put out a dividing line, with keir starmer, en brexit, with the lib dems only having serious plan to get a better relationship with the european union. That went well in the room, but one of the features of this conference has been members wanting the party to go farther on that, but members ive spoken to afterward seemed pretty happy with the overall message from their leader today. Peter, thanks very much, thank you. Thousands of teenagers across the uk are using vapes every day. And doctors have been sounding the alarm. Their concern is notjust about the lack of research on long term effects. Its also about the official Public Health messaging around vaping. The claim that vaping is 95 safer than cigarettes has informed Government Policy for years. But now a top paediatician says that message is putting children at risk. Heres our Health Editor hugh pym. He was out of it. Theyd morphined him up. Such was his pain. Ians13 year old son was rushed to a e one night with serious stomach pains. The doctor came and said, we cannot find anything wrong with you. Hes not the only parent to be told by doctors that their childrens symptoms could be linked to vaping. Thats when she said, are you doing any drugs . She said that theyve had other teenagers in, complaining of various ailments. The common denominator is the vaping. I was horrified. Hes never smoked a cigarette in his life, but hes vaping regularly, and ive found that hes addicted to vaping. And the more i looked into it, the more i realised that hes not alone. Theres Ongoing Research on whether children who vape are more likely to smoke. Doctors are also seeing an increase in children with persistent coughs, Bronchitis Type symptoms and, in some cases, severe lung collapse, though the numbers are small. There are many children and young people who have taken up vaping who never intended to smoke and are now likely addicted to vaping. And i think its absolutely shocking that weve allowed that to happen. He says this Public Health message from 2015, stating that vaping is 95 safer than smoking, has had unexpected consequences. It was aimed at adults trying to give up cigarettes and not meant to encourage children to take up vaping. The figure was headlined when an official report was published. Some critics raised questions about the evidence behind it. We have, you know, its almost like an epidemic of people, young people vaping out there. So i think the messaging hasnt worked. Weve got it wrong, and that means we have to change. And, yeah, i think the 95 quote has not been helpful, particularly for children and young people. Professor anne mcneil was one of the co authors of the original report. The 95 figure was still mentioned in an update she co wrote last year, though she says not to suggest zero risk. Well, that wasnt what it was intended to convey. It was never intended to communicate theyre safe. It was intended, though, to say that, you know, theres a big difference in the harms of these products. The figure is still used today by the Vaping Industry to promote its products. The bbc has been investigating youth vaping. Recent tests on illegal vapes confiscated from a school found unsafe amounts of metals that could be inhaled into child rens lungs. This device was found to have high levels of lead, nickel and chromium. Since they emerged in 2005, e cigarettes have evolved. Today, there are thousands of flavours and varying nicotine levels, along with a flourishing black market. The 95 figure is still in some official review literature, even last year. The 95 figure is out of date. But i think what we need to be very clear about is that the risks of vaping are still very clearly much less than the risks of cigarette smoking. Mike mckean also believes vaping is an option for smokers trying to give up but says the overall approach has been wrong. It feels like weve put all our eggs in one basket and said, this is the way to tackle cigarette smoking. And ifeel weve neglected children and young people by sort of embracing something almost too much without the real proper thought. I am concerned about young people taking up vaping, particularly those whove never smoked. I think we need to better understand why they are doing that, what it is thats attracting them to these products. And i think we should be encouraging them to stop. The government says measures to tackle youth vaping in england will be unveiled soon. The scottish and welsh governments have called for a ban on disposable vapes. Experts agree theres still no long term evidence on the safety of e cigarettes. The challenge is to emphasise the potential value to hardened smokers, while also underlining the dangers for teenagers taking up the habit. Hugh pym, bbc news. The boss of the Audio Streaming Giant spotify says its platform has no plans to ban content created by artificial intelligence. Spotify founder and chief executive daniel ek told the bbc there are valid uses of the tech in making music, but a should not be used to Impersonate Human Artists without their consent. He sat down with our Technology Editor zoe kleinman. Some artists are already utilising ai in different ways when it comes to music one of them is the band feral five. Lets speak now to band member kat five. Shejoins me from london. Welcome here. I will ask your music in a moment or two, but more generally, what do you think of spotify� s updated position here on this . I spotifys updated position here on this . , , spotifys updated position here on this . , , , spotifys updated position here on this . , this . I find my stuff surprised to be agreeing this . I find my stuff surprised to be agreeing with this . I find my stuff surprised to be agreeing with them, this . I find my stuff surprised to | be agreeing with them, actually, this . I find my stuff surprised to be agreeing with them, actually, but at the same time it should not be a free for all, and we need a lot more transparency around a in music. So transparency around ai in music. So plenty of caveats. Before asking this question, i am just going to put onto the screen for our viewers a little bit of your band and your use of ai, so lets do that first of all four ask you about it. Music kat, A Pretty Civil Question what bit of ai kat, A Pretty Civil Question what bit of a have you used it what we just showed . Simple question. We just showed . Simple question. We have just showed . Simple question. Have actually used a very bespoke ai. We worked with some technologists in berlin and they trained their a on my voice and gave some models to play with and some controls, and we use it very much as part of the Creative Process on some of our tracks, and in the end, after experimenting with it singing and talking, we decided the ai singing and talking, we decided the al was a character, it was in al al was a character, it was in a version of me, but appearing as an oracle, if you like. Mostly in a 0racle, if you like. Mostly in a spoken way. Oracle, if you like. Mostly in a spoken way oracle, if you like. Mostly in a soken wa. ,. , spoken way. You can see how it can be used almost spoken way. You can see how it can be used almost like spoken way. You can see how it can be used almost like a spoken way. You can see how it can| be used almost like a synthesiser or auto tuning or enhancing it in some way, but i suppose the problem people are worried about is, once it is out of the can, can you actually contain it . Contain it . This is a question that had been wrestled contain it . This is a question that had been wrestled with contain it . This is a question that had been wrestled with across. Contain it . This is a question that| had been wrestled with across the world and across all sorts of tech companies, and the answer is you cannot contain it without some thought. And people need to know what they are getting and where it is appearing. For example, a lot of both Music Industry and wider organisations are talking about watermarking ai generated content, so we need to find ways of respecting creators rates, making sure that they can still get their income, but at the same time have the freedom to experiment, try new tools and so on. fir the freedom to experiment, try new tools and so on. Tools and so on. Or musicians nervous. Tools and so on. Or musicians nervous. Do tools and so on. Or musicians nervous, do you tools and so on. Or musicians nervous, do you think, tools and so on. Or musicians nervous, do you think, in tools and so on. Or musicians nervous, do you think, in general, the ones that you speak to about this encroaching replacing . Absolutely, they are very, very nervous, and you can see why particularly in the areas like composing and so on, and there were some Interesting Research thatjust came out that most musicians are not trying ai and not very keen to, but some are dipping a toe in the water and gently using it for visuals, rather than music creation. Sorry, to cut across rather than music creation. Sorry, to cut across you, rather than music creation. Sorry, to cut across you, a rather than music creation. Sorry, to cut across you, a final rather than music creation. Sorry, to cut across you, a final quick to cut across you, a final quick thought. Where would you draw the line and are we going to get to a stage where perhaps we dont even know when it is being used in all manner of capacities, including music, and that he was a problem . We are music, and that he was a problem . Are already at that stage, and one of the reasons spotify does not want to ban ai of the reasons spotify does not want to ban a content is because they are already on the platform, whether it is advertisers or not, and that is why we need to find processes like watermarking and to make it clear what people are getting. Because fans want to know that something is created genuinely by their artist come in at the same time, a lot of artists have been pioneers in al, holly herndon, and one of the new a generation platforms, some leading artist in the music of element on that, so there is a lot of room for everybody, but we need have similar ethical tech involved, i was a some leading artist were involved in the development of that. Thank you for taking us through some of the pitfalls, things people are looking out for. I havejust got time to squeeze in one more story, which is the story we showed you a little earlier of President Biden arriving in michigan. He is heading tojoin those strikers arriving in michigan. He is heading to join those strikers in detroit, those car workers. These are the pictures from about half an hour or so ago. I will show you the pictures live coming to us now from the picket line, because that is where the president is heading. He will be the president is heading. He will be the first sitting president to join workers on strike. Let it bring in our corresponded to gary 0donoghue, who is watching this story. What is your assessment here . We have this visit today and tomorrow we have got donald trump. Visit today and tomorrow we have got donald trump donald trump. Yeah, it is really the kind of first donald trump. Yeah, it is really the kind of first faceoff, donald trump. Yeah, it is really the kind of first faceoff, isnt donald trump. Yeah, it is really the kind of first faceoff, isnt it, donald trump. Yeah, it is really the kind of first faceoff, isnt it, of kind of first face off, isnt it, of the president ial campaign, given how far donald trump is ahead in the race for the primary . Here they are in one of these key swing states thatjoe biden won byjust 150,000 thatjoe biden won byjust150,000 votes back in 2020, battling those key autoworkers, those key union members, who are substantial in number and members, who are substantial in Numberand Make A members, who are substantial in number and make a difference when it comes to the way these swing states vote. Joe biden, to be honest, has vacillated a little bit on whether or not to go to the picket line. He his advisers were against it, then they were for it, and now he is there, and i thing a lot of people are saying that is pumped by the fact that donald trump that he was going to go tomorrow, so, yeah, the six ordinary situation with the two leading candidates for the presidency really having a split screen in moment over two days, battling for those core votes, and i think one of the Problems Thatjoe Biden has here is that while he is saying hes the biggest fan of the union, the president that has been closest to the unions, he is also in favour of Electric Vehicles and the new plans, the some some on unionis . Plants producing the batteries non union plants, and that is a big deal. We the batteries nonunion plants, and that is a big deal. The batteries nonunion plants, and that is a big deal. We watch the motorcade arriving and that is a big deal. We watch the motorcade arriving there and that is a big deal. We watch the motorcade arriving there in and that is a big deal. We watch the motorcade arriving there in detroit, j motorcade arriving there in detroit, we are coming to the end of todays verified live. Thanks to gary, thanks to you watching, we will continue to watch the story. We see those pictures of the president any tickets there in detroit, so do stay with us. That story is developing, the story in Nagorno Karabakh is also developing, with an update likely on the amount of People Killed in that fuel depot, so all of that coming up here on bbc news in the next little while. Thanks for watching. Hello there. The days heavy rain and showers will continue to ease away through this evening, and overnight it will turn a lot drier for many with lengthy, clearskies, lighterwinds, particularly across the northern half of the country. Thatll make it turn quite chilly across some of the scottish glens. But its all change to the south. Were looking at this system deepening as its approaching ireland. This is storm agnes. Now, this will start to throw up some cloud in towards southern and Western Areas as we move through the night and the wind will start to pick up here as well. So temperatures are on the rise here, in fact the low to mid teens here but a chillier night to come across the north. So storm agnes, then, likely to bring some impacts to Western Parts of the country on wednesday, with rain and gales. We could see severe gales around some of the irish sea coasts as this storm moves its way northwards, but it will be weakening as it continues to move northwards. By far, the biggest impacts will be across central and southern parts of ireland. But around irish sea coasts, like i mentioned, we could see 60 to 70 mile an hour gusts, maybe a bit more than that. North west wales, pembrokeshire, North West England and south west scotland, favoured spots for some of the strongest gusts. Heavy rain also spinning northwards with the strong winds as we move through the morning, into the afternoon, eventually pushing across into scotland. But much of central and certainly eastern and South East England will avoid all the action and, in fact, stay largely dry. It will be breezy, but therell be some sunshine. Top temperatures, 22 degrees here, but further north and west, around the mid teens, with the gales and the rain. The strong winds, the gales, the rain push northwards across scotland. Storm agnes eventually exits the uk in towards the Norwegian Sea by the end of the night. But a fairly mild night to come. Temperatures in double figures for most. So to thursday, then. Were in between weather systems. There are more ganging up on us as we head into friday and the weekend, generally affecting northern and Western Areas. But thursday actually doesnt look too bad. The winds still a feature, but not as strong as what we expect on wednesday. Therell be some good spells of sunshine around, but i think cloud will tend to build through the day and well start to see another frontal system pushing into the west. Thatll bring rain to northern ireland, scotland, perhaps western england and wales by the end of the day. A little bit cooler, i think, across the board. 20 degrees at best in the south east, mid teens further north and west. And then like i mentioned, there will be further frontal systems moving into northern and Western Parts of the country. Better chance of staying dry this weekend in the south. At six Childrens Health is being put at risk by the official advice on vaping says a senior doctor as he calls for under age vaping to be stamped out. Doctors say the long term effects of teenagers vaping wont be known for years but parents are being led to believe that its safe. You know, its almost like an epidemic of people, young people vaping out there. The Home Secretary says being a woman or being gay are not good enough reasons to claim asylum in the uk as she calls for a reform of global asylum laws. Water companies are being forced to give back more than a hundred Million Pounds to customers. And why a gargoyle has appeared on a former Pizza Takeway in wiltshire thanks to a furious planning row. Coming up on bbc news, can europe hang onto an unbeaten home record that stood for 30 years. We look ahead to the ryder cup and roma