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The case. It was only a year after she stopped working as a nurse that the police came above. Medical records were found in her room, diaries, notes she had written including, iam diaries, notes she had written including, i am evil, diaries, notes she had written including, iam evil, i have diaries, notes she had written including, i am evil, i have done this. ,. , ~. , including, i am evil, i have done this. , ~. ,. This. She is a killer and choosing her words. This. She is a killer and choosing her words, she this. She is a killer and choosing her words, she is this. She is a killer and choosing her words, she is evil. This. She is a killer and choosing her words, she is evil. You this. She is a killer and choosing her words, she is evil. You have | her words, she is evil. You have interviewed her words, she is evil. You have interviewed her, her words, she is evil. You have interviewed her, watched her words, she is evil. You have interviewed her, watched her. 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There are people who look at her and said there is no| who look at her and said there is no way she could have done this, circumstantial evidence, she looks as though butter wouldnt melt. It is an example for us all to not judge a book by its cover. We have to accept and understand the evidence in this case has been, i believe, significant. It has taken us to understand that lucy let pierce a killer. Pierce a killer. She wrote a sympathy pierce a killer. She wrote a Sympathy Card pierce a killer. She wrote a Sympathy Card to pierce a killer. She wrote a Sympathy Card to the pierce a killer. She wrote a l Sympathy Card to the parents pierce a killer. She wrote a Sympathy Card to the parents of one baby and search for other families on facebook. Lucy let people smoke and supported her throughout the chart trial and the court heard about a happy childhood. We may never know why she became a killer. I never want to come out again. What she has done has changed the course of her life forever. Lucas she has done has changed the course of her life forever. Of her life forever. Lucy letty had many faces of her life forever. Lucy letty had many faces. Party of her life forever. Lucy letty had many faces. Party graduate. Of her life forever. Lucy letty had i many faces. Party graduate. Bright young nurse. At each face was a mask for evil hiding In Plain Sight and at last her cover has slipped. Lucy letty will now be known as one of britains most notorious criminals. We are bringing you to Breaking News that lucy letty has been found guilty of murdering seven babies and attempting to murder another six. We arejoined by our attempting to murder another six. We are joined by our correspondent Anna Foster Who pace outside Manchester Crown court. That was the background there. What has been happening in there. What has been happening in the last few moments. It there. What has been happening in the last few moments. The last few moments. It gives you the last few moments. It gives you the context the last few moments. It gives you the context behind the last few moments. It gives you the context behind this the last few moments. It gives you the context behind this very the context behind this very long running case. The first case goes back to june long running case. The first case goes back tojune 2015, so a long process for the families involved here. The families were thanked by thejudge for their service here. The families were thanked by the judge for their service and what he described as the most upsetting and distressing case. Some of the families were in the courtroom to see this case come to its conclusion. Some of them had already heard verdicts on their children be delivered. 0ne heard verdicts on their children be delivered. One of the babiess Family Members left the court when it was finally explained by the jury that despite the fact they had deliberated for more than 110 hours, this is the 22nd day ofjury deliberations, several of the counts they were unable to reach a verdict on. This was originally a 12 man jury, as a standard during the process. In the last few weeks during deliberations one of those jury during deliberations one of those jury members was discharged for what was described as good personal reasons, meaning that 11 were remaining. Thejudge said that reasons, meaning that 11 were remaining. The judge said that we reasons, meaning that 11 were remaining. Thejudge said that we said that he would accept a Majority Verdict and the remaining cases. Remember that there are families of children, fourfamilies remember that there are families of children, four families who remember that there are families of children, fourfamilies who have not received a verdict on which the jury was hung, despite their deliberations and the time and effort they put into this case. One of those four families they received a verdict on one of the counts for their child but a hung verdict on their child but a hung verdict on the other. This is incredibly difficult, while they wait to hear if the Crown Prosecution Service will seek a retrial in those clients that the jury was unable to decide on. Thejudges indicated he will sentence lucy let be on monday for those crimes, for those murders of seven children, the attempted murders of a further six children at the countess of Chester Hospital. Within the last few moments we have had a Statement Given to us from the liverpools womens Nhs Foundation trust with two lucy letby did her training. They said following the recent Trial Verdict are thoughts are with the parents of the victims and everyone affected. Has detailed and everyone affected. Has detailed a news reports and information provided by Cheshire Police there is an Ongoing Investigation relating to the full period of lucy let because my career, including training placements at Liverpool Womens hospital which took place between october and December 2012 and january chip every 2015. Liverpool womens Foundation Trust has been racing with Cheshire Police throughout this investigation and we will continue to do so going forward. As this is an Ongoing Investigation, we are unable to provide any more information at this time. Any further details will be shared by Cheshire Police in due course. Anna, the statement there from the Liverpool Womens Nhs Foundation trust does make it clear how long the story goes back for. Well, potentially. This is something thatis well, potentially. This is something that is being looked at notjust now but has already been looked at during the process of that investigation. The 22 charges put two lucy letby only spanned a period of one year of her Nursing Career. They were all murders or attempted murders that occurred between. That does not represent lucy letby� s into her Nursing Career. It raises questions of course about what she was doing prior to that one year period, during periods of training or placement. We know that Cheshire Constabulary has been speaking more widely, we know they talked to many people who had worked with her, both in her current and previousjobs. The evidence gathering on operation hummingbird, the investigation into lucy letby� s Nursing Career has been significant. At the height of that operation there were 70 police and civilian staff working on it. They said around 30,000 pages of evidence in total. That will be one of the continuing themes of the story, not just the guilty verdicts that were able that we are able to report to you today, but what happens next and how much more potentially lucy letty could have been responsible for. I want to bring in mcauley, danny 0donoghue. You have been here for every day of this trial. It has been a very long trial indeed. Nine months exactly from the Opening Statements to the jury being sent out to deliberate. I want to talk about the families who really at the heart of what we are reporting today. Talk as to their reaction as this trial came to its conclusion. Aha, this trial came to its conclusion. A lot of mixed reactions in the courtroom. We have heard verdicts over the courtroom. We have heard verdicts over the course of the last week and there over the course of the last week and there has over the course of the last week and there has been varied reactions over there has been varied reactions over the times there has been varied reactions over the times. Some of them have cried and left the times. Some of them have cried and left the the times. Some of them have cried and left the courtroom. This is a combination of years of investigation and it has finally got your Point Investigation and it has finally got your point with the jury has decided to return your point with the jury has decided to return to your point with the jury has decided to return to verdicts that they have done to return to verdicts that they have done. ~ to return to verdicts that they have done. , ~. , to return to verdicts that they have done. , ~. ,. , to return to verdicts that they have done. , ~. ,. ,. , done. Talk to us a little bit more about the methods done. Talk to us a little bit more about the methods that done. Talk to us a little bit more about the methods that lucy done. Talk to us a little bit more l about the methods that lucy letby has tried to cover her tracks, hybrid she was doing. We has tried to cover her tracks, hybrid she was doing. We heard that there was very hybrid she was doing. We heard that there was very methods hybrid she was doing. We heard that there was very methods that hybrid she was doing. We heard that there was very methods that she there was very methods that she used, there was very methods that she used. One there was very methods that she used, one of her favourite ways of killing used, one of her favourite ways of killing we used, one of her favourite ways of killing we were told was by the injection killing we were told was by the injection of air. This is done by inserting injection of air. This is done by inserting an air bubble from a feedback, then into the jobs bloodstream causing all sorts of problems for the child. There are other problems for the child. There are other methods, the Force Feeding of milk in other methods, the Force Feeding of milk in the other methods, the Force Feeding of milk in the case of one child. In the case milk in the case of one child. In the case of milk in the case of one child. In the case of another two children, there the case of another two children, there was the case of another two children, there was the poisoning by insulin. We heard there was the poisoning by insulin. We heard evidence how lucy letby assaulted we heard evidence how lucy letby assaulted some of the children. We know assaulted some of the children. We know this assaulted some of the children. We know this because of the injuries that some know this because of the injuries that some of these children sustained. That some of these children sustained. ,. , sustained. There was a liver inury that was described i sustained. There was a liver inury that was described by i sustained. There was a liver inury that was described by the i that was described by the prosecution as being something that could have been caused in Something Like a car crash. Like a car crash. Yes, we had an exert like a car crash. Yes, we had an Expert Pathologist like a car crash. Yes, we had an Expert Pathologist Review like a car crash. Yes, we had an Expert Pathologist Review one l like a car crash. Yes, we had an | Expert Pathologist Review one of like a car crash. Yes, we had an Expert Pathologist Review one of the babies Expert Pathologist Review one of the babies. When they analysed the internal babies. When they analysed the internal injuries that this child had suffered, it was the equivalent realty had suffered, it was the equivalent realty of had suffered, it was the equivalent realty of a had suffered, it was the equivalent really of a Road Traffic Injury and how on really of a Road Traffic Injury and how on earth would a child sustain that in how on earth would a child sustain that in a how on earth would a child sustain that in a Neonatal Unit . That was a question that in a Neonatal Unit . That was a question the jury had to consider and in question the jury had to consider and in that question the jury had to consider and in that case they found that lucy and in that case they found that lucy letby had murdered this child. We have lucy letby had murdered this child. We have been talking about the time period that this took place, and a one year period between 2015 and 2016. It is time went on, she became the common factor, the nurse always on shift on Something Like this happened. They talked about rashes or discolouration on the childrens bodies, unusual things that began to tidy stats together. This bodies, unusual things that began to tidy stats together. Tidy stats together. As you say, it was first noticed tidy stats together. As you say, it was first noticed that tidy stats together. As you say, it was first noticed that lucy tidy stats together. As you say, it was first noticed that lucy letby i was first noticed that lucy letby was first noticed that lucy letby was the was first noticed that lucy letby was the common factor as early as june 2015 was the common factor as early as june 2015. It was noticed after the death june 2015. It was noticed after the death of june 2015. It was noticed after the death of three children and a near death death of three children and a near death of death of three children and a near death of another in that dude that there death of another in that dude that there was death of another in that dude that there was pink and purple rashes on there was pink and purple rashes on the chiidren there was pink and purple rashes on the children that would appear and disappear. This would repeat itself over that disappear. This would repeat itself over that year in various cases. It was only over that year in various cases. It was only really into june 2016 with the consultants got together and had a meeting, three ideas back and forth as to what on earth was going back and forth as to what on earth was going on, that this idea of embolism, the injection of air first arose embolism, the injection of air first arose as embolism, the injection of air first arose as a embolism, the injection of air first arose as a potential cause. 0ne embolism, the injection of air first arose as a potential cause. One of this symptoms of air embolism is these this symptoms of air embolism is these rashes. That is what weve seen these rashes. That is what weve seen time these rashes. That is what weve seen time and time again in this case seen time and time again in this case it seen time and time again in this case. It took the consultants a long time to case. It took the consultants a long time to put case. It took the consultants a long time to put this together because they were time to put this together because they were only saying fragments of lucy letbys offending, they wont work lucy letbys offending, they wont work in lucy letbys offending, they wont work in the lucy letbys offending, they wont work in the same shifts as her, these work in the same shifts as her, these are work in the same shifts as her, these are happening at different times these are happening at different times of these are happening at different times of day, so took a lot of work try times of day, so took a lot of work by the times of day, so took a lot of work by the consultants to find out exactly by the consultants to find out exactly what was going on. We do exect to exactly what was going on. We do exoeet to hear exactly what was going on. We do expect to hear from exactly what was going on. We do expect to hear from the exactly what was going on. We do expect to hear from the countess | exactly what was going on. We do l expect to hear from the countess of Chester Hospital in the next few hours. We expect them to make a statement and address some of the issues that dan was talking about. In the background behind us here at Manchester Crown court there are microphones ready for statements that we are expecting from Cheshire Constabulary, who investigated lucy letby and her offending. The Crown Prosecution Service put this case together. Also a statement on behalf of the families. We expect the family Liaison Officer to step forward and deliver the response from the family. We know that some of the families were calling for a Public Inquiry into lucy letby� s offending, how she was able to carry out these crimes and carry them out undetected for so long. It is worth reflecting as well, dan, we were talking about the family Liaison Officer. Perhaps unusually in this case, the identities of the victims and their families have case, the identities of the victims and theirfamilies have been protected. 0ften and theirfamilies have been protected. Often in a murder case will know the identity of the victim, but here the childrens names, not within court, but within the wider reporting of the case in the wider reporting of the case in the identities of the family have all been protected. This the identities of the family have all been protected. The identities of the family have all been protected. This trial has been subject all been protected. This trial has been subject to all been protected. This trial has been subject to extensive all been protected. This trial has i been subject to extensive reporting restrictions. From the outset there was a restrictions. From the outset there was a number of witnesses, doctors and nurtures was a number of witnesses, doctors and nurtures who are also covered by reporting and nurtures who are also covered by reporting restrictions. It was decided reporting restrictions. It was decided that at the outset of this trial the decided that at the outset of this trial the families of the children will be trial the families of the children will be protected. This is a very distressing case, it is hard to imagine distressing case, it is hard to imagine a distressing case, it is hard to imagine a more upsetting series of crimes imagine a more upsetting series of crimes than the murder of babies in a neonatal crimes than the murder of babies in a Neonatal Unit. These orders were brought a Neonatal Unit. These orders were brought in a Neonatal Unit. These orders were brought in to protect the family life of brought in to protect the family life of the families and also the siblings life of the families and also the siblings of some of the children in this Case Siblings of some of the children in this case he survived. Tell siblings of some of the children in this case he survived. This case he survived. Tell me a little bit more this case he survived. Tell me a little bit more about this case he survived. Tell me a little bit more about it this case he survived. Tell me a little bit more about it lucy this case he survived. Tell me a i little bit more about it lucy letby in court herself. As we were reflecting, she was not in the dock as the trial came to a conclusion, but as those first verdicts were delivered, this has happened over a period of time and we are finally able to report when verdicts were in awe at thejury able to report when verdicts were in awe at the jury was hung and explained to thejudge awe at the jury was hung and explained to the judge that they couldnt reach verdicts on certain counts. When those first guilty verdicts were delivered, lucy letby is in the dock. Is in the dock. How did she react . The first guilty is in the dock. How did she react . The first guilty verdicts is in the dock. How did she react . The first guilty verdicts to is in the dock. How did she react . The first guilty verdicts to come i the first guilty verdicts to come back, the first guilty verdicts to come back, these were two children who were back, these were two children who were poisoned with insulin. Lucy letby were poisoned with insulin. Lucy letby is were poisoned with insulin. Lucy letby is in were poisoned with insulin. Lucy letby is in court for that and she sat stunned when the first guilty vertical sat stunned when the first guilty vertical bat, but the time it got to the second vertical bat, but the time it got to the second she did begin to sob and sobbed the second she did begin to sob and sobbed when she left the dock. It was a sobbed when she left the dock. It was a couple of days before we point out the was a couple of days before we point out the next batch of verdicts. There out the next batch of verdicts. There were four micro guilty verdicts there were four micro guilty verdicts for murders. She sat with her Head Verdicts for murders. She sat with her head bowed in the dock. A very strong her head bowed in the dock. A very strong reaction came from letbys mother, strong reaction came from letbys mother, he strong reaction came from letbys mother, he said you cant be serious, mother, he said you cant be serious, this can be happening. 0ver serious, this can be happening. Over the last serious, this can be happening. Over the last week as we have got more and more the last week as we have got more and more verdicts back, letby has not been and more verdicts back, letby has not been in and more verdicts back, letby has not been in court and passed a note to her not been in court and passed a note to her barrister to tell the court she would to her barrister to tell the court she would not be back. She was offered she would not be back. She was offered the opportunity to appear via video offered the opportunity to appear via video link but declined this opportunity. We via video link but declined this opportunity via video link but declined this ouortuni. ~. ,. , opportunity. We want to show you aaain opportunity. We want to show you again some opportunity. We want to show you again some of opportunity. We want to show you again some of the opportunity. We want to show you again some of the new opportunity. We want to show you again some of the new footage i again some of the new footage released by cheshire compared Cheshire Constabulary today. These are pictures we have not seen before of lucy letby The First Time she was arrested. You can see the please go to the door of her home