Prime minister had said that they will not let individuals intimidate the guys that there were just oi will not let individuals intimidate or divide us and they carried on amazing, absolutely incredible their visit into Borough Market people. In other news, millions of commuters will have to pay today to go and talk to tourists and an average of 2. 7 more for rail tickets in the new year. Visitors who are out using the and at 3. 30pm, the click team look market. It is still very busy here, at the Technology Behind prosthetic limbs in para sports. Despite the public being urged to avoid the area. The public are being asked to remain vigilant and to date the met police we appealed for information and footage, particularly anybody who was at fishmongers hall to get in touch with their investigation. You mention the flowers that lead for the victims of yesterdays attack. The Prime Minister says he wants we are still presumably waiting for to toughen up sentences for serious and violent offences. Identifications of the two people speaking after visiting the scene of fridays who died. Do we have any indication incident at london bridge, about the condition of the people mrjohnson said he wanted longer who injured yesterday . We know that sentences for Violent Crime and an end to Early Release for serious offenders. A man and two women were taken to the attacker, usman khan, hospital. We were told that one is had been released critical but stable, another is on licence last december sta ble critical but stable, another is stable and the other, the third after serving half of a sixteen year person, suffered less serious jail sentence for his part in a plot injuries. But again, their identities have yet to be released. To blow up the london stock and our correspondent exchange. Jane Frances Kelly is outside in the past hour new Scotland Yard. The Prime Minister has been speaking at the scene of the attack. I have just been down again to talk this we had an impromptu few remarks to the Emergency Services, to thank from Cressida Dick when she visited the police for what they are doing and, you know, i pay tribute the scene, we are busy hurting to their incredible response. They were on the scene in four counterterrorism chief yesterday. Minutes, the terrorist, but we have not had a detailed the assailant was tackled opportunity to hear from the police, within five minutes. Are we expecting more from scotland ya rd are we expecting more from Scotland Yard today . Yes, we are expecting quite an incredible response by police, i also want to pay tribute again, as i think the whole something this afternoon. But we country does, to the sheer bravery actually do not know when. They have of those members of the public said that usman khan was acting who went to deal with him spontaneously, putting alone in this attack, but that their own lives at risk. Doesnt mean they are not investigating friends, families and so, i have been talking about about the scene, associates. This man was no stranger what happened, trying to understand exactly how this man came to be to the police, he was convicted back in fishmongers hall and, you know, in 2012 for his part in a plot to obviously it is early days blow up the london stock exchange, and there is a lot of investigation as well as other sites. Now, he was that needs be done. But it is clear to me given an indeterminate sentence at that this guy was out, that time for Public Protection, but he had served half of his sentence that time for Public Protection, but that was quashed and later the court and was out on automatic early appealed and he was given a release and i have long said that the system simply determinate sentence of 16 years. Is not working. Now, he was released last december it does not make sense for us, as a society, under licence the board said that to be putting terrorists, people convicted of terrorist they have played no role in that offences, of serious, violent offences out on early decision and that it was automatically done. We do know that release and we argued he was wearing an electronic tyke that people should serve the tariff, serve the term for which they are sentenced. Yesterday, we do know that he took that is my immediate takeaway pa rt yesterday, we do know that he took part in some deradicalisation from this and that is why i am programmes in prison. But clearly working to increasing sentences for serious and violent offenders his mind was not changed. But i and why i have argued that think questions are being asked when people are sentenced about whether he was being monitored to a certain number of years in prison, they should serve every year of that sentence. Correctly. The Probation Service has the other thing, i think, said that they have unmanageable very strongly, looking workload, so clearly this is a very at what is going on here, i really hope that it can be difficult area. And also, the prime business as usual as fast as possible and obviously all the forensics have to be done ministerand difficult area. And also, the Prime Minister and the mayor of london have both said that there needs to and i thank the police bea for what they are doing, have both said that there needs to be a review into the Early Release they are doing a fantasticjob. Of prisoners, especially if they but i think people, businesses around here want to get have committed serious or violent on with their lives. Crimes. Jane, thank you very much. It is the run up to christmas and you can see people are out on the street shopping apologies therefore the problems of already, first thing. So, as a government, under your leadership, janes sound. He will try to get will you commit to reviewing that sorted out before we return to whether indeterminate sentences scotla nd should be what they say they are . That sorted out before we return to Scotland Yard and that press conference which we hope will take place this afternoon. We are waiting absolutely. As we say in the manifesto, for more details about the police we want to toughen up sentences for serious and violent offences investigation, where also, as and i have said for a long time importantly, waiting for now that i think the practice confirmation of identities of the of automatic Early Release, people he digester day and an update on the condition of those who are when you cut a sentence in half and let really serious, hospitalised. It is thought three violent offenders out early, people were taken to hospital with simply is not working and i think you have had some very good evidence various knife injuries asa as a result of the attack. Of how that is not working, london mayor sadiq khan said im afraid, with this case. We can expect to see more Police Officers on the streets over with other convicted terrorists out the coming days. On licence at the moment, you will have seen and londoners will have seen, visitors how can you reassure the public will have seen, today, that they are safe . Tomorrow and over the course of the next few days, well, i can tell you that we have met Police Officers, had a long conversation, the city of london Police Officers, we had a long discussion already today about all those cases some in uniform, some plainclothed, and a great deal of work is being done right now to make sure some with firearms, they are not that the public are protected there because there is a heightened risk or an increase and i want to thank, you know, in the threat level. The security service, as well, for the outstanding they are there to reassure us job that they do. And reassure visitors that london do not forget, this is a crucial is safe and can ijust say point, for every incident like this, that we owe an enormous debt of gratitude not just to our police, terrible as it is, there are many, who responded so swiftly many that are thwarted. And so bravely, not knowing what they would confront, there are many prospective but also members of the public terrorists who are intercepted, who we have seen the videos of, prevented by our fantastic police, who were so brave on the bridge. Fantastic security services. But also outside fishmongers hall, thank you. There were many, many brave oridnary people who acted in an extraordinary lets get the latest manner and i think all of us should on the investigation heres our correspondent be extremely proud of the police, but also of londoners for showing sarah corker. The best of us and there was Intense Police activity at a property in stafford this morning, the best of humanity. Thought to be where 00 05 52,403 4294966103 13 29,430 the attacker had lived. Tour guide stevie hurst was one of those who helped to restrain the attacker. Hes been speaking to 5 live. His account contains some graphic details. Well, we saw, just sort of a handful of people running away from a direction to the left of us, on the left hand side, from south to north, and i dont know why, but i felt compelled to jump out of the car to go and see what the situation was. And we saw a guy being accosted to the floor. I ran over to investigate what was going on and the guys were just screaming, hes stabbed a couple of women. Im guessing from the bar, from the fishmongers bar. So they were screaming that. So everyone was just on top of him, trying to bundle him to the ground, and we saw that the knife was still in his hand, he was covered in blood. The knife was still in his hand, so ijust put a foot in to try and kick him in head. We were trying to do as much as we could to try to dislodge the knife from his hand so he wouldnt harm anyone else. So, the guys that were there were just amazing. Incredible people. Heroes beyond belief. The police were there within minutes, which was incredible. They started to drag all of us off, and that is when you see the guy that had the knife with the suit, he is. He has found a knife that has been dislodged, it kind of went down the side of the pavement, he has picked it up and taken it away, because we wanted to make sure that that is all that he had. We wanted to make sure that we dislodged that some breaking news, confirmation of the identification of one of those who was killed yesterday when no that a man and a woman died the man has been identified as jack merritt. He was a present rehabilitation course coordinator. He was described by his father, he has put out a short statement on behalf of the family on twitter, is a beautiful spirit and he paid tribute to his son, who was working at the conference as a result of the attack. There is a photograph of jack merritt, who digester day. Who died yesterday. Jack was taking pa rt who died yesterday. Jack was taking part ina who died yesterday. Jack was taking part in a course organised by the university of cambridge. It is by the Campaign Charity learning together and it was bringing together and it was bringing together some of those prisoners who had been released and others who are on day release, to attend the conference and following the attack by usman khan, who himself had been attending the conference, who attacked people with two knives and one of them was jack merritt, who sadly died yesterday. His father has paid tribute to his beautiful spirit. I was speaking to richard, who was an adviser to the uk sentencing council. He explained how the system works for prisoners. If if they serve full term without any hope of parole, then they become so disappointed and depressed, even more prison normally makes in, that they become literally to handle. So, to manage those numbers and to give people a sense that there is going to be light at the end of the tunnel, the indeterminate Public Protection sentence was actually originally designed for people like this, people who really are very dangerous and some viewers may have seen our serious dangerous and some viewers may have seen our serious crime of punishment on channel 4, the first one was about i ppp people who are normally sense to that. Much more use by judges for less dangerous people and it is very surprising the court of appeal moved him off of one of those, because that is literally what that is designed for. The automatic release for people will have hopefully learned something other then how to create more crime, they have a more optimistic view. Just plain management of space, but terrorists are on a separate category, their ideological different. Therefore, they should not be given automatic handling by the justice system. Not be given automatic handling by thejustice system. I not be given automatic handling by the justice system. I suppose it makes the point, the parole board are making a point that actually they were depart nothing to do with this process, precisely because as you say it is automatic. Thisll be one of the things that need to be looked at. The other question is twofold really, one about the supervision of people after they had been released in this kind of category. We understand that he was tired, having a tie on his own is not going to be an issue because he was at a public event to which he had been invited. We understand that he was tagged and having a tag on his own. What sort of supervision ta kes pla ce on his own. What sort of supervision takes place people after have been released for a conviction of such a serious crime . It is woefully inadequate. The Probation Service has absolutely decimated by cuts. People have focused entirely too much on the police cuts, but as they are, and the police present officer cuts, but the cuts to the Probation Service mean that really a whole range of offenders who need the kind of attention that anybody else but need to going to drive and go straight and need this kind of support to do that, is lacking. I understand from his lawyer, he was quoted in a newspaper today, that this chap actually asked several times while in prison to have a deradicalise to work with him, because he realised, apparently, the error of his ways. When he came out it looks like he was radicalised all over again. But he had actually been a model person in prison and wanted to change. But there were no resources to get him and that happens a lot, it is a tragedy for everybody, including the victims. Indeed, presumably very serious questions will not be raised about what is going to be put in place so that this is not repeated in future cases. What, given your involvement and interest in the criminaljustice system over almost happy century, what do you think is lacking . I remember talking to a former prisoner not so long ago, not somebody who committed a terrorist offence, he said when i first went to prison they had a dedicated present officer, someone whose job was to make sure they were notjust sucked into a culture that would actually make them worse than when they had come in. But it is all gone because of the turnover of staff and the increasing use of agency staff, rather than full time prison officers in particularjails. It is particularly to do the numbers frankly. Prison officers try and wa nt to frankly. Prison officers try and want to do the job, of the county describes, they do sentence planning with a designated officer, i watch that 20 years ago where it had a serious chance of working. Because most offenders commit their crime because they want respect and attention, and they get it sometimes through a prison officer and that can be enough to change the whole direction of their lives. But now, it is tragic to see all these people who want to help and the prisoners who want to help and the prisoners who are just trapped in their cells for 23 hours and 50 minutes everyday. How do you think you can rebuild your life when you are alone or along some players who may have committed somebody else waiting for something to a change and some attention again . Theyjust do not get it, they just attention again . Theyjust do not get it, theyjust cannot with the numbers that are available. That was criminologist talking to me in the last hour. The snp leader Nicola Sturgeon has been campaigning in st andrews, part of the constituency with the smallest majority at the last general election. She has been meeting crowds and making a speech saying scotlands future is on the line in this general election. 0ur correspondent Alexandra Mackenzie has been following the party. There was a very different tone to campaigning here in st andrews today. Now, Nicola Sturgeon, scotlands first minister, totally stage and pay tribute to everyone involved yesterday. To the families of those who lost people in the attack yesterday, to the Emergency Services and to others who risked their own lives to help others. So, yes, a very different tone was set. But she was speaking to a hall full of delegates here in the Beautiful University town of st andrews, in the constituency of northeast fife. Now, this is the uks most marginal seat the stock now, the snp did retain the seat in the last election, but only by two boats. And historically this was the seat of the liberal democrats of the many yea rs. The liberal democrats of the many years. Speaking to delegates here this afternoon, Nicola Sturgeon painted two very different scenarios for scotland. She painted a picture of scotla nd for scotland. She painted a picture of scotland if borisjohnson was backin of scotland if borisjohnson was back in ten downing st after the election and scotland had to leave the eu, as we know scotland voted to remain in the european union. What she said was that brexit is the biggest threat to the nhs and its history. She said brexit would also be detrimental to scotlands the economy and for jobs be detrimental to scotlands the economy and forjobs in scotland. Now, the other picture that she painted was that if scotland was independent and what she said is that a vote for the snp is a vote to keep the tories out of downing street. And a vote towards that referendum and in her words, she wa nts to referendum and in her words, she wants to have that referendum next year. Now, idid wants to have that referendum next year. Now, i did ask how she was going to get that because Boris Johnson has said there will be no referendum if he is by minister and Jeremy Corbyn has said there will be no referendum in the early years of a Labour Government was not now, she did not want to dwell on that, she said she had another date on mind and was looking towards campaigning for this election and that other september. 12 december. She said this is a crucial election for scotla nd this is a crucial election for scotland and scotlands pitcher is the line. Rail fares will rise by an average of 2. 7 injanuary according to the body that represents the Rail Industry. It means some commuters will see their season tickets go up by more than a hundred pounds. The independent watchdog transport focus said a majority of rail users did not feel they were getting value for money. Katie prescott has the details. Christmas is coming and for commuters on South Western Railway that means almost a month of scenes like these, as strikes on the line start on monday. So, the news that train fares will rise again next year, above the standard rate of inflation, has not gone down well but these passengers in bristol. I think the rail service probably needs to be improved nationwide, before they can think about putting up fares. I have just come from cambridge and it would have been cheaper for me to go to paris. Todays announcement means many commuters face an increase of more than £100 in the annual cost of getting to work. For example, a season ticket from eastbourne to london goes up £136, tipping it over the £5,000 mark. A season ticket between glasgow and edinburgh will set you back by £4,200 a year, up £116. But the Rail Industry defends the increases. Saying 98p from every pound spent on fares goes into running the railway. At the moment were going through, like, a record splurge on the railway network. More money is being put onto the network now than at any other time since the victorian. So, we are replacing half of the entire nations fleet, but we are also putting money elsewhere, by adding extra services wherethey are really needed. Both Train Companies and passengers say they would like to see a new, more flexible system forfares put in place. This is one of the many issues expected to be addressed in a major review into the Rail Industry which will report after the election. The final providers of the help to buy isa s will close the window for new applications today. The product . Available since 2015 . Was introduced to allow First Time Buyers the chance to save tax free. Nearly 260,000 properties have been bought using the isa according to the government. A number of banks have already pulled their help to buy isas, prompting a late surge, according to some providers. Police are still looking for the man who attacked three people in a shopping street in the dutch city of the hague yesterday. Two of the victims were 15 year old girls the other a 13 year old boy. Images and videos on social media show dozens of black friday shoppers running away from the scene. The three people who were stabbed were treated in hospital and later discharged. The attackers identity and motive still appear to be unknown. The families of two Police Officers who died when their helicopter crashed into the clutha pub in glasgow six years ago have spoken out in support of the pilot. An inquiry ruled last month that the crash happened because pilot david traill took a chance and ignored fuel warnings, killing the crew and seven people in the pub. But family members of officers killed say they trusted the pilot implicitly. Now its time for a look at the weather. Temperatures in places today struggled to get above blazing, particular medical has been slow to clear. They boggle before this evening and overnight. Meanwhile, an area of cloud and rain across south western parts of the uk will begin to slide sideways, taking the gusty wind with it and still quite a breeze blowing across the southern half of the cables to the dog not quite so extensive, the cross not a shop. Elsewhere, many clearskies and a few showers still. Essentially, a giant night and another cold night for many. Lowest temperatures across northern england, Northern Ireland and into scotland. Tomorrow we have an area of low pressure building into the west. Quite a breeze blowing and that will continue to be some showers to northern and eastern scotla nd showers to northern and eastern scotland and some eastern coasts and perhaps one or two lingering in Northern Ireland with a morning per minute, a dry, bright diaper some good spells of sunshine. Still, a cool day. Hello. This is bbc news with shaun ley. The headlines cambridge graduate jack merritt has been named as one of the victims killed in yesterdays attack on london bridge. The 25 year old was working for one of the universitys education initiatives. The Prime Minister borisjohnson and home secretary priti patel are among those to who visited the scene. He said people convicted of terrorism offences shouldnt be released from prison early. The attackers been named as usman khan, he was on license after being automatically released from prison, when he killed two people and injured three more. The practice of automatic Early Release, where you cut a sentence in half and let really serious, violent offenders out early simply isnt working, and i think youve had some very good evidence of how that is not working, im afraid, with this case. The queen hails the bravery of passers by yesterday, who restrained the attacker before he was shot dead by police
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