Transcripts For BBCNEWS The Papers 20240713

Hello. This is bbc news with martine croxall. Well be taking a look at tomorrow mornings papers in a moment first the headlines. Seven severe flood warnings, meaning theres a danger to life, are still in place along the river don in South Yorkshire. We are near the village of fishlake where dozens of people have been evacuated from their homes. The conservatives lay out plans to train and employ thousands more gps, despite failing to meet a previous recruitment target. Labour and the liberal democrats promise more hours of free child care but providers are sceptical over funding. This week on the film review, mark kermode joins Carrie Gracie to discuss the latest cinema and dvd releases, including the good liar, the irishman and luce. Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. With me are broadcaster penny smith and chief political commentator at the independentjohn rentoul. Nice to have you both here. Many of tomorrows front pages are already in. The mail on sunday leads with conservatives claim that labours general election policies will cost the uk a total of 1. 2 trillion pounds over the span of a five year parliament. The telegraph also leads with that claim, saying the conservatives will publish a dossier setting out calculations that they say shows the true cost of a labour government. The sunday times goes with this too saying the tories are trying to put clear water between themselves and labour. The sunday express says Brexit Party Leader nigel farage will give borisjohnson a final chance to form a brexit pact that he claims could finish labour for a generation. The independent has an interview with the shadow chancellorjohn mcdonnell who says their manifesto will be the most radical, with promises of a universal basic income and climate pledges at the heart of it. So lets begin with the costings that the conservatives have done of labours pledges. And this is the sunday times version. £1 trillion. A splurge to bankrupt the uk. One slight problem. . Splurge to bankrupt the uk. One slight problem. . The splurge to bankrupt the uk. One slight problem. . The problem is 110 0118 slight problem. . The problem is no one knows how much that is because it is just a very large number. There is a little box on the front page to show how much 1 trillion is and it is indeed the number one followed by 12 zeros. The mail on sunday says one point two. It isa mail on sunday says one point two. It is a huge amount and that makes a huge difference. It is not 20p it is far more than that. This is tory propaganda so. You know. My wonderful colleagues at reality check have had a look at this idea that the conservatives are doing the costings and they make a point, firstly, that these are calculations done by the conservatives. They have not come from treasury it is just the conservatives having a finger in the conservatives having a finger in the airand the conservatives having a finger in the air and wondering what they based on 2017 this is what it was cost. At this point it is impossible to do this. And, also, £1 trillion which is over five years and it does not distinguish between current spending and Capital Spending which is very important because Capital Spending is different. You can borrow for that. And get a return. So it just lumps everything borrow for that. And get a return. So itjust lumps everything into one huge number that does not make any sense to most normal people anyway. As at 350 million on the side of the bus. No one knew how much money that was, it was just a large amount of money we sent to europe stop isnt this the problem with costings . Even if you had a figure, they are often far off. Look at the crossrail. It was going to cost x amount, a lot more, and yet other things do come in under budget. One of the things that the labour party discussed at the conference was abolishing private schools in the conservatives have costed that at £35 billion to abolish private schools. Of course, there is no guarantee they can make it into the manifesto, is there . Jeremy corbyn has been quite careful about that. He is under some pressure from his activists who are annoyed with him for not committing to abolishing private schools. So you are right. The conservatives look as if they have added everything in the kitchen sink in there to try and come up with a very large number. But, also, ifind it fascinating anyway, a line saying that moodys, the Credit Rating agency that we never really hear about years stop not since the credit crisis. They have lowered its outlook for uk debt to negative from stable. Because of our Economic Performance and criticised the election promises. Well that is an important point because the conservatives are spraying spending promises around generously as well and, you know, you could presumably come up with a very large number two to criticise them for spending in the conservatives are talking about tax cuts were at least labour are talking about tax increases. The sunday telegraph, i had to move you away from the subject, but its all over that paper as well. The scale of labours reckless spending is revealed. Yes, the renationalisation plans. The conservatives are costing that at £196 billion but that is based on an estimate by the cbi. dont understand how nationalisation costs anything because it when you rationalise coming you pay money to acquire an asset and therefore the net effect on the public finances. If you were totting up and doing ok, i have this much money and this many airports, i suppose you could say this is how much i will have to spend while not taking into account the fact that you do. You could explain this. I think you would be an asset to anybody. Tonight you have gotte n an asset to anybody. Tonight you have gotten me out of a hole with the pronunciation of a film in the film review. The independent. Sorry, i have my newspapers all in the wrong order. We have an interview withjohn wrong order. We have an interview with john mcdonnell. Thank wrong order. We have an interview withjohn mcdonnell. Thank you. You have saved the day. Mcdonnell. The ma nifesto have saved the day. Mcdonnell. The manifesto will be our most radical. In the two things picked out on the front are universal basic income and climate ledgers. Yes. He spoke about both of those. I personally am a sceptic. I think it is an observer idealistic utopian idea. I am all in favour of idealism and utopianism but you need to pay for it somehow. Can you explain what we mean by a universal basic income . It means you do not bother with the benefit system at all you just give everybody the same amount of money. Every citizen of the uk the same amount of money from the state, raised by extremely high levels of taxation because it is a huge money churning exercise. So you keep a asic income to keep body and soul together and then you work to make your life better. In the idealistic end of it is that it does do away with the means test and all those difficulties that people have with the benefit system. But the problem is that you still then have to have people with extra needs, disabled people with extra needs, disabled people who, you know, will need more than the standard amount of money. So you end up having to re complicate the system as well as having made it expensive. And where have we tried this . It has never been tried because it never works. They tried it in a small way giving money unconditionally to Unemployed People in norway. There was an idea, i think last year, the calculated weaving young people, say under the age of 25, £10,000 each to do something with, that was costed and suggested but seemed to just fade away. Without going anywhere. Suggested but seemed to just fade away. Without going anywherem suggested but seemed to just fade away. Without going anywhere. It is difficult because you cannot make people do sensible things which is what you hope. You think the £10,000 will set someone up. Its a decent amount that will allow them to go and be an entrepreneur, to learn something construct, to do things and people instead spend them on a cruise or expensive shoes. John mcdonnell is slowly much of a politician to do anything quite so silly. He will set up a pilot scheme which would presumably be a like what they did in norway, that was a limited exercise and they gave up after a few years because it cost too much. Returning to the times for a couple more. Age 90 and still taking cocaine. Once id you think wow, way to go and then you also think it is a bit sad. I did not realise that cocaine is implicated in Mental Health which i think is why they are ending up in hospital, because it is ten nonurgent aryans admitted with disorders due to the abuse of cocaine. The numbers are not huge but coming on the back of them giving out condoms to the over 65 because of the huge spike in gonorrhoea cases. It is a bit raving elderly, isnt it . It is one way of spending your retirement. But it is illegal and highly addictive and there is a health cost. And it causes all sorts of destruction and criminality. The chains of criminality. The chains of criminality yes. Exactly, right back to its very source. Yes. It sounds like a good fun story but fully it is probably not brilliant. The thing is probably not brilliant. The thing is it seems that it is left over from the 60s. Is it seems that it is left over from the 60s. Yes. There are many people who got used to taking drugs ata people who got used to taking drugs at a fairly young age and managed not to kill themselves by moving on to heroin and whatever. And they have survived until they are 90. Although only ten of them. Have survived until they are 90. Although only ten of themm have survived until they are 90. Although only ten of them. It is a small number but it is a headline that does attract attention. And here is another one. Arise, sir or maybe dame. Explain this . This is fascinating and i cannot believe that it has not been done before because lets face it whenever you go into anywhere, the dentist, i had to put down my ethnicity and everything else, and you just wonder why it has not happened before that they are, for the honours, they are going to, from next month, collect data to ensure that those decorated a fully representative of uk society. Gender, ethnicity, everything, to try and make sure that these go to underrepresented people. And which region of the uk they come from. Exactly. To make sure that the baubles are handed out evenly. Is this a quota then . I dont think it is quotas, it isjust having a look at it and seeing what is actually happening. Because sometimes it isjust about using people who are like them, rather than looking at the world about them. Unconscious bias. It is astonishing that they have not done this before. Presumably they do do it they do it in the unconscious bias way which is they have a look at the list and say oh, we are a bit short of women siletz public coupling. And lord cashman, who was michael cashman, who was in east end as. He was colin. How do you know it was colin . I remember colin anyway, he was saying that he welcomed this so he was saying that he welcomed this sol he was saying that he welcomed this so i dont see many people from my background who has been as lucky as me to get an honour. His father was a dockworker and his mother cleaned offices and he says this is great. And that is it for the papers. I just want to tell you that the news channel is 22 years old today is marvellous. I remember news 24 . Do you . And nowjust bbc news channel. Anyway, i just want to say how wonderful it is to work here and with such wonderful people. Dont forget you can see the front pages. Dont forget you can see the front pages of the papers online on the bbc news website. Its all there for you seven days a week at bbc. Co. Uk papers and if you miss the programme any evening you can watch it later on bbc iplayer. Thank you, john and penny. Next on bbc news its the film review. Do by apb in the morning, wont you . Do buy a paper. Good night. Hello. Welcome to the film review on bbc news. And to take us through this weeks cinema releases is mark kermode. So, mark, what do we have this week . A very mixed bag. We have the good liar, which is a super ripe drama starring helen mirren and ian mckellen. We have the irishman, martin scorsese, a netflix film that is playing in cinemas. And luce, a very intriguing psychological thriller. So, are we starting with the good liar . Were starting with the good liar. So, helen mirren and ian mckellen. They are silver surfers who meet online. In the very opening sequence, they are filling out the Online Dating forms and they are both fibbing about themselves. So the good liar sets itself up at the very beginning. We learn early on that he is a con man. He meets helen mirren, she is looking for companionship. But gradually, a relationship forms between them. But her grandson does not trust ian mckellen and, frankly, neither would i. Heres a clip. Chuckles. The size of your estate, thered be a windfall every week so, what would you. . Mmm . Steven . I thought you were in spandau. Huh, did you . Well, they let me out early. 0h, steven why didnt you let me know you were back . You shouldve called what have you got her doing . So he moves in here with his gammy leg and the first time i leave you alone with him, hes got you giving him all your money . No here now. No, no, no. Thats not whats going on here thats jumping a few fences listen, roy. Do you know what . This isnt your house. Steven. Hes an intruder. Can you see that . Youre embarrassing me in front of mr halloran and roy, who i. Dont, dont. Dont touch me. 0h so this is adapted from a novel by Nicholas Searle and there is, at the beginning, we are being set up for a twist which i have to say, if you didnt see it coming, then you really were asleep on thejob. There is then a second and third twist further down the line which made me go, oh, for heavens sake if you are to enjoy this, the best way to do it is to enjoy the sight of helen mirren and ian mckellen chewing the scenery for all they are worth. I mean, it is it is preposterous tosh. 0h thats Strong Language but that does not mean that it is not without its enjoyable side. I know several people who have kind of enjoyed it for all its ridiculousness. Apparently, the novel seems slightly less fanciful. Its kind of a weird cross between, like, miss marple sunday afternoon tv and something which is slightly more sweary than that. It makes no sense whatsoever. The pleasure in it is seeing two actors enjoying themselves although, i have to say, i never believed that they were anything other than two actors enjoying themselves. You never actually believed in the characters, as they were. I mean, its a really odd film. It falls between several stalls. Its directed by bill condon, who is a very good director, and it has a very fine cast but it is absolutely ridiculous nonsense. Is that an opportunity missed . I mean, the world is full nowadays of con men, you know, trying to wrangle people out of their savings. But heres the thing at the beginning, the premise which is set up is the good liar who is the good liar . And thats a nice little idea and, you know, obviously, one expects there to be twists and turns in the narrative, which it does exactly what you expect. But then, it goes into the realms of the utterly ridiculous. But, you know, theres a certain pleasure in seeing very, very fine actors having fun. It doesnt make any sense. 0k. Any sense lets move on to your. No sense i think we got that message lets move on to your second film does this make sense . Another film with fine actors, the irishman. Yeah, i thought this did a lot more than i expected. So this is martin scorsese, joe pesci, robert de niro, al pacino, so big stars. Robert de niro kind of back working with scorsese and making the kind of movie they made when they were making goodfellas and casino. Its made for netflix, but it has got a brief theatrical window i think its 21 days. And its the story of frank sheeran. It goes over six decades. Al pacino plastimmy hoffa, the union leader. Joe pesci is playing very, very underplayed. Stephen graham is playing the kind of character thatjoe pesci wouldve played in a previous incarnation. The thing theres been a lot of talk is that the film uses digital de ageing technology, because we see the characters go from the 1940s through to. And theres lots of question about, you know, is it distracting . I have to say, i didnt think it was. The only distracting thing is occasionally, their bodies move like old men, although their faces look young. Oh, weird yeah. But in a 3. 5 hour movie, for that to only be occasionally distracting is actually pretty good. And the fact of the matter is its a very interesting story, its well told, theres real film making brio, it has a terrific soundtrack, there are, you know, the performances are all solidly good and it does i mean, it takes full advantage of the fact that its a netflix film, therefore its 3. 5 hours long, which is the probably thing that will make a lot of people think you know what . I will stay in and watch this at home. But i watched it in the cinema and the 3. 5 hours pretty much flew by, with the exception of the last act, which did feel like oh, ok, youre making this for a home audience. But i thought it was i was pretty entertaining and the digital de ageing bothered me much less than i expected. And frankly, if they could digitally de age me in that way, i would be very happy. I dont like the idea of that, though. Its well done. Its well its just make up. Its digital make up. Thats all it is. Its like, you know, performance capture. Its just digital costumes. Digital de ageing is just digital make up if you use it properly. Its gonna do a whole profession out of a job well, it i mean, you still need to use ordinary make up, as well. There are older periods in which they do do the standard ageing thing. But i think it is, you know, its the future. But you just have to be careful that the technology its not the tail wagging the dog. Fairenough now, we need to move on to the third one, yes. So this is based on a stage play byjc lee. Naomi watts and tim roth are a liberal White American couple who adopted a child who had grown up in war torn eritrea. Now he is a model student, he is fantastic at sports, he is fantastic at debating, but one of his teachers has started to have worries about him. Is something up with him, or does she have a hidden agenda . Heres a clip. Like, what are the criteria for evaluating what is a valuation of privacy . Is privacy a civil right . I think so. Maybe the law isnt so sure. If i went through your desk without your knowing, would you feel like your privacy was violated . Yes, i would. So . Feelings arent a legal argument. In the newjersey case, the teacher assumed the girl was guilty, because of her feelings. Thats called reasonable suspicion. Its all the police need to search your car. So its about whats reasonable . Thats what courts are for. Really, its just about people though, right . Whether they conform to what we think they are . Its not that simple. Nothing ever is. Now thats kind of the nub of it. And what you see from that is, you know, what i was saying about the first film, there are twists, but you can see them coming a million miles away . The great thing about this, it is based on a stage play and it does feel a little bit stage y. But all the way through, you are kept guessing as to what is actually going on. Does it tell you at the end . I dont. It is, in my opinion, impressively unresolved. Yes, things do get solved up to a certain amount, but it is a film of great ambiguity. Theres a terrific soundtrack by geoff barrow and ben salisbury, whose soundtrack all the way through is telling you this is awkward, this is off kilter, there are strange things at work here. And what i really liked about it is its actually very hard to sustain a movie in which, right up until the very end, you are questioning peoples motives, youre questioning peoples characters. But also, you also start to realise that the film isnt going to tie itself neatly up. It is going to leave questions unresolved. I thought it was very, very well played. I think its a great performance by kelvin harrisonjr. Octavia spencer is absolutely terrific. It is a very sort of satirical take on the middle class couple and their presumptions about things, and one of the things that. Kinda of the white saviour stuff . Yeah, but one of the things that it does also is it wrong foots the audience. It plays to the audiences expectations and then it wrong foots them or does it . All the way through this, i kept thinking, because i saw it immediately after watching the good liar, this has the sense of ambiguity, the sense of uncertainty that the film before didnt have. I dont think its gonna have a huge cinema audience, but i think it was really well worth seeing. My only reservation it is based on a stage play and it is quite stage y. But actually, i thought the story was really well told. Great, ok. Youve got 30 seconds for best out . Best out is monos which is this extraordinary film which, on the one hand is a story about child soldiers, but is so much more than that. It is a modern day lord of the flies. And extraordinary soundtrack by mica levi, which is one of the weirdest soundtracks ive heard all year, and a brilliant ensemble performance by a cast, some of whom are very well known, some of whom are completely unknown, but all of whom mesh together brilliantly. Brilliant, disturbing, overwhelming, wonderful. Wow that sounds incredible now, then and very quickly best dvd . Yesterday. So the story is everyone has forgotten the beatles, except for our central character. And, you know, what would it be like if you woke up and you were the only person who remembered heyjude . I think its really fun. Im a sucker for Richard Curtis scripts anyways. I think its really well played. I mean, i its one of those things that you either love it or you go, oh, for heavens sake this is this doesnt make any. But i really, really enjoyed it. I laughed, cried and ive watched it twice and the second time around, it was just as powerful. I i thought it was. Im a sucker for really well done sentimentality and this was like a great pop song you can listen to it over and over again. Thank you, mark. Ive gotta see that. Still havent seen it yet and youve made me want to watch it. Thats it for this week, though. Thanks for watching us. Goodbye. Hello. The weekend got off to a cold, frosty start. More rain followed for many of us on saturday, not just followed for many of us on saturday, notjust rain followed for many of us on saturday, not just rain but followed for many of us on saturday, notjust rain but more of the uk had its first snow of the season, welsh hills and this from shropshire. As the effect of recent rain which are still major flooding, the effect of recent rain which are still majorflooding, especially the effect of recent rain which are still major flooding, especially to South Yorkshire and derbyshire. Many flood warnings imports. To head to oui flood warnings imports. To head to our website for the latest details on these and weather warning s as well. Sunday getting off to a cold, frosty stuff northern england, scotland, Northern Ireland, a risk of ice on treated services, especially Northern Ireland after saturday was so wet. Temperatures above freezing, still with a bit of cloud and rain as the day begins. That is pulling away. There is a gap between weather systems. These runs are coming in as sunday comes to an end as it turns wet from the west again. Each of the jobs across southern england, south wales of seeing early rain, fog patches around towards the south as well, early on remembrance sunday. All of thatis early on remembrance sunday. All of that is away. See the extent of the fine, sunny weather during the day. They showers a clipping areas of england around the moray firth. A chilly day, but where you are changing saturdays rain and snow for sunshine it will feel a bit warmer. Look at what it turned into Northern Ireland during sunday evening then the rain pushing through wales, but is across england, scotland, snow to the higher parts of the pennines, and especially north of the central belt we re especially north of the central belt were some of the hybrids could be tricky as monday begins. Temperatures had a bit over night of the chilly start to the night. The good news about this latest area of whether, if there is any, it is moving through, doesnt hang around in any one place for any one period of time. Ecklin South West England by monday morning. A blustery monday was sunshine and showers. Some heavy, wintry towards the north west of the uk where they will be most frequent. It will feel colder, there will be a stronger wind, blustery again on tuesday. Low pressure close by with cairns of showers or rain moving southwards into drier and brighter slots in between. Temperatures were many of us will be in single figures. It doesnt get any warmer, really as the week goes on, because low pressure stays quite nearby. When eric was awake by tuesday then there is a brief gap. Look at this into wednesday, more weather fronts approaching from the atlantic. Wednesday likely to start cold and frosty then turn wet from the west. As mentioned earlier, low pressure standby for the rest of the week. Thats your forecast. This is bbc news. Im nancy kacungira. Our top stories at least three people have died in bushfires in australia as weather forecasters and firefighters warn that more dangerous weather is on the way. Fireworks, music and celebrations at the Brandenburg Gate for the 30th anniversary of the fall of the berlin wall. Around two Million People in eastern india and bangladesh are told to leave their homes as a powerful cyclone makes landfall. People in the north of england and the midlands are still being rescued, after a months worth of rain falls