The other thing he said was, the American Economy are strong. Now on bbc news, dateline london. He said this on friday. You do. And the other economies what do you think we should take from this spat over the amazon between jair bolsonaro, the sum would say trumpian politician, he is certainly are not doing well. Populist, certainly sceptical of climate change, and emanuel macron . I noticed people are saying this will be the moment at the start he says, if i am doing well, another of Boris Johnsons premiership country is not doing so well. Where he will ally himself with trump. But as we know, the complexities of global trade and globalisation hello, and welcome to the programme means that the best way to tackle this is to work together. That hosts debate between leading uk columnists and the foreign there doesnt seem to be any correspondents who file sign from donald trump their stories to the folks back home that he will embark on this set but when it comes to issues to do with the dateline london. Of meetings with that this week borisjohnsons with the environment or climate brexit diplomacy appears kind of collective, change, johnson and trump do not to pay off in berlin. No bromance for bojo multilateral approach. In paris, though. Well be discussing catherine, there is something to be which matters more. Plus with the amazon on fire, said for the trump appear to be on the same page. Brazil accuses the g7 nations johnson thing, boosterism, of colonial meddling. You talk up your prospects. You play an impressive game but is the g7 fiddling whilst in terms of pr about how the Global Economy burns . Good your country is, this is wherejohnson allies himself around the table with me how it is going to be are thomas kielinger, leading on this or that. Much more with the rest of europe. A biographer, and for many years borisjohnson pulls my current it will be interesting london correspondent obsession is technology and life for germanys die welt. Sciences in particular. He talks big on that. The danger is, if you are one the canadian broadcaster of these International Civil to see how that develops. Jeffrey kofman suzanne lynch, servants, dare i say it, who writes from washington who tend to be quite conservative, for the irish times, and catherine pepinster, a commentator on religious affairs, the signals you send can start and former editor of the tablet. To affect the real economy. Im sure they will spend a lot of time talking about the amazon, because it is such it is typical of all politicians an important issue. To talk up their country. As macron has said, the amazon Emmanuel Macron might is the lungs of the world. Believe in multilateralism, 20 of the oxygen we breathe the amazon, the lung but he is also, for him, is affected by the amazon of our planet, is burning. France first. And the role it plays so tweeted Emmanuel Macron, the but one of the things it shows in generating and protecting. Absolutely. And bolsonaro has been quick to say is how personality, and character, president of france, late thursday. Is so important in politics. That the interventions of people like macron and a layer of a radical hes the host of the g7 summit, of ireland is all about colonialism. In biarritz this weekend, and proposed putting it this is the threat of a trade treaty. On the agenda. Yes. Which, to jair bolsonaro, brazils president , he may think that, but at the same is just so much hot air. Time, brazil has been ready to take aid from other nations, after all, burning forest to clear and also from ngos who have intervened over in brazil. Land for cattle and the growing so it seems to be a bit of soya is to meet a global demand, not least from western nations. Of doublethink to me. Brazil exports more soya there was an era, particular than any other country. Still, on friday, he bowed when the late tony benn was around, when he used to talk about how this is a subject where the church to the pressure and sent in latin america has played in the military to tackle the fires. Quite a political role. Politics should be about issues. He was to get rather absolutely. Politics with a small p, of course. Irritated by the media focusing on personality. The Catholic Church in latin America Brazil isnt one of is characterised by activism. The self described advanced economies that make up the g7. Youve perhaps heard absolutely. Of liberation theology. China isnt either, but it lobbed but politics nowadays an economic hand grenade on the eve of the summit, that has been very influential they are. Is all about personality, isnt it . And priests and others in the church announcing fresh tariffs have spoken up a lot about what has it is about the way trump behaves, the way he tweets. Borisjohnson is a big been happening in the amazon. Personality as well. On american goods. Its all very well for these and this is affecting the way politics is carried out. Countries to be gathering for the g7 the world issues seems to be summit, but in truth, pushed aside full stop. Is this a significant event in terms trump as freelance, of the economic prospects . Shoot from the hip approach, it significant because it it appeals to his base, in fact, pope francis has called will clearly define the division has huge dangers. Within the western economies. Already the cost to the american the synod of bishops traditionally, the g7 or g8 consumer is estimated to be about 800 per household from the amazon for october, as it was, represented a post cold because of this rising war alliance of western economies tariff war in the us. They will gather in rome. Based on globalisation, the estimate is that if the new set free trade, etc. What weve seen in the last couple of tariffs on another ecology is one of the key things of years is this division of the eu 300 billion go through, and its self styled vision they will raise that cost to 1500. Of progressiveness, if you understand the fragility and now trump in the us, of the american household, and caught in the middle, there are huge numbers of people, the uk, which weighed does it turn . They will be talking about. As in the uk and europe, on the backdrop to all this living on the margins, is a slowing Global Economy. Barely staying afloat. The idea of 1500 extra china seeing its economy slowdown. On their Household Bills manufacturing in the us growing is really crippling. At levels lower than it has this has been going on for years. In the last ten years. There was an american nun who was the German Economy contracting. A big activist in the amazon. So there are all sorts of dramas going on. She spoke out about logging add to that the latest trade war and about people setting fire of tariffs and the tit for tat that to parts of the forest, and was effectively assassinated. Exploded yesterday between trump the Catholic Church is now seeking and china, and there is a lot 00 03 45,984 2147483051 38 37,707 of reason to wonderjust how bad 2147483051 38 37,707 4294966103 13 29,430 the economy could get. That is where boosterism comes to have her made a saint. To the end of its usefulness. She will be the first, i think, it will hit the facts environmental marketer. Of life on the ground. That will raise the profile of this issue. And if america too is going to go in terms of the g7 is into recession, trump will see has an institution, its come up and with those facts that not very institution, its just a gathering speak against it. Of leaders, but nonetheless it is all very well, it is regarded as symbolic. They are popularfigures, is that symbolism out of date . And im sure there is a boris bump when you think about economies in britain, and people warm to his as large as brazil or obviously china, not being around the table. Way of protecting the country. But of course nothing can get away im afraid it is from the facts on the ground. Getting out of date. And if the economy of the us there is the Environmental Concern is going to shrink, 00 04 08,613 4294966103 13 29,430 trump has it coming. Which is transcendental and goes across national boundaries. On top of it you have Major Players like china and brazil and india not being part of it. And what makes it worse, there is even a lack of unity amongst those seven member countries. I was interested to hear what you said about the Catholic Church. They are articulating religious fervour for the concern that we all share to keep our environment safe, which goes against the fervour of trump, the popular rhythm, as it were, that emerges. And you have a disjointed world, as it were. You have personalities vying for absolute victory over everything else, and you have Common Concerns like the environment, which again has nothing to do with what is to trump thinks or does not think, attacking, and you are dis jointing subject you are looking at. There is also that dilemma that everybody is concerned about global recession, but in some ways, a recession might actually be good for the planet. Because it will be almost breathing space if there is a major downturn. You want your Many Political leaders make that point you wont hear many. To go back to your point about the g7, they have said they will be no joint communique, which is the first time since, 1975, it was the g5, this is the first time there will be no consensus, and it is easy to see when you have trump and johnson joining the other leaders from japan and europe and canada. There is nothing in common. These people have nothing to share. And so it really does speak of the anachronism it has become. Institutions need to evolve to reflect the world, thats not necessarily a bad thing. What is worrisome is the eu under attack, with nato under attack, all these institutions were born out of the ashes of world war ii, and the notion was, wouldnt it be better if we talk around the table, and knew each other personally . And i think there is a clear virtue in that. And if the g7 is going to disintegrate or implode, what follows, and what actually is affected . And trump of course call this week for russia to be readmitted to what was the gs. Already borisjohnson, already macron i said, that is not going to happen. It will be interesting in terms ofjohnsons relationship with trump, will that be a point of contention . And this lack of unity in the club, what is it day for people on the ground and their respect for politicians as people who are entitled and called for to govern wisely and with solutions . I think catherine was 5 point, one of the sobering realities, is that we see it, we are in this values based era where values almost seem to trump. And economics. And one of the ways that may be jolted is with true hardship. It is not something im advocating, at all, but i think that if economies are hurt, and people actually suffer, that may force them to reassess. But lets look at history carefully, and remember that when that happened in germany after world war i, they did not actually go through a period of enlightenment, they went through a period of extremism. And so we want to be careful of what we wish for. Indeed, a sobering thought to end on. We will stay with history. Such was the reputation for calculation and cunning of the 19th french diplomat tallyerand that when he dropped dead, the austrian chancellor metternich wondered aloud what did he mean by that . It felt a bit like that in berlin on wednesday. Borisjohnson was on his first trip abroad, lobbying Angela Merkel for support in his campaign to re negotiate the uks Brexit Agreement with the eu. Mrjohnson wants rid of the irish backstop dont worry, the new viewers start here section of the programme follows shortly but until now has received not a word of encouragement. Then, in the middle of theirjoint news conference, mrs merkel said maybe we can find that solution in the next 30 days. Thomas, what did she mean by that . If you ask me to divine what is in the mind of Angela Merkel, it is the toughest challenge for any commentator. I think she is driven by what was once famously said, how wonderfully it concentrates the mind when the day of execution is near. And october 31 is the day of execution for both the eu and the uk. And you have to have shown a willingness not to have let this happen by default. Youve got to think of something that might impinge on it, and turn it into something more hopeful. And the 30 day period she suggested this for britain to resolve. Johnson so far has not come up with an alternative solution to how to regulate ireland after the no deal exit. Did the Irish Government know she was going to say this, put the cat among the pigeons . I think theyve been trying, and a lot of the coverage from berlin has been trying to clarify exactly what she said, it wasnt going to become a solution in 30 days. As you are saying, thomas, she is so shrewd, she is putting the ball back in britains court, saying dont blame others. The rhetoric was, we want to engage. We are ready to talk, they just want to us. Yes, she is saying, we are ready to talk to, it was engaging, convivial, be convivial is strong, but it was better in terms of the dynamics. But the substance of what she said wasnt very different. Backstop arrangement. But they have had three years to come up with an alternative. Im sure you spend endless time expelling to be blood cocktail parties what the irish backstop is forced to explain it to us. The backstop is an insurance policy that is supposed to never be used, and this is to try to prevent a border being erected between the republic of ireland and Northern Ireland, which is part of britain. But the problem is, this has become the intractable problem of the issue. Because now britain will have a land border with the european union, but both the british and Irish Governments have said they dont want to erect a hard border. The backstop was seen as a way of preventing this, and brexiteers would fear it would keep too much regulatory alignment between the uk and the eu if it was kept. And therefore the uk wouldnt have left. Right. And dublin has said it is open to an alternative. The problem is that people are very sceptical about whether there will be any alternative presented in the next few weeks. It is notjust about regulation, is it . It is also about sense of identity. One of the things the good friday Peace Agreement established was this kind of flexible approach, you could be irish, british, you could be irish, northern irish, it didnt matter in the way it had done for so many years. Yes, and there has been a flow of people back and forth over that border. There are people who commute, there are people who head to dublin or to belfast for shopping, depended on which currency is beneficial. There has been this change of culture, and i think people are very anxious that that will change again, and will revert to what it has been. And i am hearing from people i know in Northern Ireland about reports of violence again, which we are not hearing about, particularly, in the uk. But it is there under the surface. And the fact that we havent had a proper government in stormont for so long must add to these problems. Exactly. That is the other aspect of expelling to people. As well as brexit, there is an internal issue, that is that the assembly in Northern Ireland has not been functioning for more than three years at this stage. There is a political vacuum in Northern Ireland, ironically at the very time when Northern Irelands future is so in the balance with brexit, for both communities. There has been a real failure of politicians on both sides. So when parliament returns to westminster in september, that will be one of the big issues on their agenda. There is talk about direct rule, where london would roll directly in belfast. But just this week, a few days ago, there was a bomb attack in fermanagh just near the border. People described feeling their houses shaking. The Security Services in Northern Ireland have warned about the threat from dissident groups in the north. I think this also may help to focus minds on the next few weeks and months. Let me add one thing about the backstop. The 30 day period could have meant to refer to the document which we will also have to negotiate about the future economic relationship. And if goodwill can be seen to work, that will be an area where you really could propose a speeding up of the process. And when you have a functioning deal between the two blocks, then the backstop will disappear. But the problem is, britain wanted to keep the backstop until a future relationship, but ireland wanted to get it in writing before they got to this phase. You are right. There is a lot more opportunity to. And britain doesnt have the patience to continue to be a member of the eu while they are negotiating. There is a problem here, because even if britain leaves without a deal on the 31st of october, and the prime ministers said we will even the 31st, deal or no deal, although we prefer a deal, a lot of the questions that will not have been resolved will simply be asked again by the eu when it comes to sitting down and trying trade talks. The notion there will be a hard brexit on the 31st, it is impossible to say whether there will be chaos, how much. Or whether we will barely notice. Thats right for someone of the issues, Free Movement of people, is one of the eus principles, that will not end on november one. There is no mechanism to stop that. Companies, businesses here have no idea what to do. I think that borisjohnson, to go back to where we began, at the g7, he sits facing europe on one side and america on the other, and instead of the unified block we really have two blocks, and it is a question of where he wants to allow this country. On that point it will be interesting to see how far he progresses with donald trump on the us eu trade deal. There was talk of a road map to a trade deal, which is not the same as a trade deal. The person he really wants to be talking to is nancy pelosi, the speaker of the house of representatives. Congress has huge power of the trade deals. And the irish lobby is important. Ive interviewed nancy pelosi and spoken to Senior Member of congress, they have said they will not sign off on a trade deal if the good friday agreement is jeopardised. And nancy pelosi in 2008 blocked a trade deal between the us and colombia. She blocked it. She had the power to do that, and it took many years for that to be agreed. That is a real challenge for britain in the next few months. And i dont think british politicians have never fully understood that relationship. In the reagan republican days, there were politicians here baffled by republicans being sympathetic to the republican cause. Yes, i do think it is naive to think thatjohnson and trump considers equals to negotiate some sort of trade deal. The economies are so out of. Johnson was warned, if you become too close to the us, you become an american vassal. Vassal, that was a favourite word of some of the uk brexiteers. A final point, put to a Northern Ireland journalist on friday who had been speaking to dup politicians, and they said, we think germany are so frightened of the prospect of a recession in the eurozone that we need to get our argument in front of german politicians, they are the ones who could open this up. Do you think they are right . Economists have some clout to influence the government, and you are right in describing their fear. After all, german car experts to begin with are bigger to the uk and the are even to america. But that doesnt mean to say that politicians will want to sacrifice ireland on the altar of european unity, because they are far too worried, as you said, about terrorism. I have to say, there is a lot of solidarity between ireland and the eu at the moment. But germany and france, ireland and future may come under pressure on corporate tax, for example. There are issues, it is not this seamless relationship, but at the moment ireland will hope that both macron and merkel stick to this backstop, it seems like they will at the moment. Thank you all very much. Thats it for dateline london for this week. Were back next week at the same time. Goodbye. Hello there. This week is set to bring some pretty big changes in our weather. Theres something cooler on the way, something a bit more unsettled as well. But the weekend brought a real burst of heat. Sundays temperatures got all the way up to 33 degrees just to the west of london. That heat being drawn up from the near continent around this area of high pressure. The south easterly winds affecting most parts of the british isles. It was a bit different and the west, though, the air starting to come in from the atlantic, a cooler source of air, and that cooler atlantic air will make more inroads over the next couple of days. Firstly behind this little weather front here, things will turn a bit cooler. This big dangling weather front in the atlantic will eventually bring some much cooler air for all of us around the middle of the week. So, those temperatures gradually, slowly but surely, dipping away, will be a slow process, though, particularly in the east. And with that change well see some outbreaks of rain and perhaps some thunderstorms for a time. Through monday morning, some quite poor visibility, and mixture of mist and murk, and low cloud, some fog patches too, especially through wales, the west midlands, north west england, south west scotland. It is a bank holiday for most, but if you are travelling early, bearthat in mind. That should clear, then we see some long spells of sunshine again, the odd shower in the far south west, some rain and the strengthening breeze across the western isles, and generally it will be a cooler day in scotland, Northern Ireland, the western side of england and wales. Further east, though, in the sunshine, it could again get to 32 or 33 degrees. Now a lot of dry weather and clear skies to take us through monday night into the early hours of tuesday, but there is the ongoing chance of a shower across the south west, maybe up into wales as well. Those temperatures overnight between 11 and 17 degrees. So for tuesday this frontal system which will eventually, remember, bring that cooler air, will just stall out to the west, not making a lot of progress eastwards, so we will see plenty of dry weather, some spells of sunshine but the increasing chance that well see some showers breaking out and some thunderstorms, too. Some of which could be heavy. The heats increasingly getting squashed eastwards, could still get to 31, 32 degrees in the south east, but it will be cooler futher west, and well see some rain later in the day into Northern Ireland. Now, during tuesday night, a scattering of showers and thunderstorms looks likely to push across the british isles, quite hit and miss but some of these storms could bring a lot of rain. And then as we get into wednesday, that front, which will have been lingering out to the west for a couple of days, well, finally it make its move. 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