Transcripts For BBCNEWS Newsnight 20180205

To them and slung them out. Because theyve taken down major, they took down cameron, two great leaders, neither of whom stood up to them. All this on the day Michel Barnier has come to downing street to warn us that the time has come to choose. Without the Customs Union and outside the Single Market, barriers to trade and goods and services are unavoidable. Not avoidable . We will ask lord lamont if theresa mays vision for brexit is getting clearer or cloudier. Also tonight. Look how far women have come in the last one million years. Tonight, on the eve of the suffragette centenary, we ask our panel what we got right, what we got wrong and where were heading now. Good evening. Suddenly, everyones stopped mincing their words. As the government clarified there would be no Customs Union post brexit. ,Michel Barnier, the chief eu negotiator arriving in town, said that would cause unavoidable barriers to trade. Out the bunting . As for the rest call them remainers or soft brexiteers or what you will are they feeling the cloud of something long feared becoming a stark reality . Our Political Editor nick watt is here. Youve been hearing strong stuff from one of the conservative partys most ardent remainers tonight, nick. Tell us what you heard. Anna soubry has been outspoken since the referendum, she says her party appears to be in hock to watch describes as 35 ideological exit years and it is time theresa may stood up to them and threw them out. If this doesnt happen anna soubry who was in the cameron government as a business minister said, if it comes to it i will not stay in a party which is being taken over by the likes ofjacob rhys mogg and boris johnson. She says, we simply cannot go on like this any longer. Something is going to have to give because if not, not only will we get Jacob Rees Mogg as Prime Minister, we will get a devastatingly hard brexit. Anna soubry has said stuff in this sort of territory in recent months but hasnt gone quite this far. Its also important to say that anna soubry can at times go a little further than some of the remain tory colleagues but and picking up quite a lot of frustration among those mps. So today ive been looking at the pressures on theresa may as she looks to settle what the uk wants for its future relationship with the eu. Im not afraid, ill race you and ill win. Politics is, in many ways, about the art of timing. Winning can demand speed but sometimes being patient is the virtue that will ultimately take you over the finishing line in first place. Look at that white tail flash. And so it is proving with brexit. There have been unmistakable signs of anguish amongst some leave supporters who fear that as time marches on, their dreams of a clean brexit are slipping away. And then there are remainers, who appeared to be biding their time for a more complex exit from the eu. The fears and frustrations over the nature of the uks departure from the eu have come to a head on above all one issue. What sort of customs relationship will the uk have with the eu . Some brexit supporters fear the treasury is nudging theresa may towards a version of the current Customs Union which would make it all but impossible for the uk to negotiate free trade deals around the world. Their nerves were calmed somewhat this morning when downing street ruled out this option. The eus chief negotiator, Michel Barnier, was in downing street today, where he warned that leaving the Customs Union and Single Market would create unavoidable barriers to trade. Downing street said this morning that the uk would not be staying in the Customs Union or a watered down version dubbed a Customs Union. The government is looking at two options. A customs arrangement in which new technology will be harnessed to create as frictionless a border as possible between the uk and the eu. A Customs Partnership in which the uk and the eu would set their own tariffs, but they would create as frictionless a border as possible by levying each others tariffs on goods transiting their borders. I understand theresa may is still keen on this option. But there is a third option that could be pushed by remain supporters who point out that the eu has talked of magical thinking in whitehall. This is the possibility of a vote in Parliament Later this year to maintain a version of the current Customs Union. One remain supporter warns of serious consequences if theresa may refuses to keep her options open. Labours front bench itself is ideological. My front bench probably isnt, but its in hock to 35 hard ideological brexiteers who are not tories. Theyre not the tory party that ijoined a0 years ago and its about time theresa stood up to them and slung them out. Because theyve taken down major, they took down cameron, two great leaders, neither of whom stood up to them. Well, if it comes to it, im not going to stay in a party which is being taken over by the likes of Jacob Rees Mogg and boris johnson. Theyre not proper conservatives. If that means leaving the party, form some new alliance, god knows, i dont know, but we simply cannot go on like this any longer. Something is going to have to give because if it doesnt, not only will we getJacob Rees Mogg as our Prime Minister, well get a devastating hard brexit which will cause huge damage to our economy for generations to come. And im not prepared to sit by any longer and put up with this nonsense. One brexiteer insists that theres strong unity in the party. Ive found a very strong unity of purpose which is everybody agrees that the british people said we needed to leave the eu. In order to do that we need to leave the Single Market, the Customs Union and regain control of our laws and our borders. And it is the politicians who will determine how we set policy and the Civil Servants who will help implement it. And where Civil Servants have tended to speak out perhaps more than is usual, i thinkjacob feels that they have crossed a line which is inappropriate. Our Political Class is working on one iconic clock. As that now silent landmark ticks down to the brexit deadline, the two sides know that whoever masters the timing may master the result. Nick watt there. Before we go to our guests, our Business Editor helen thomas is here. How would this work helen . How have businesses, companies been reading this . Happy to have clarity or terrified of the cliff . Joining me from strasbourg is mairead mcguinness, Vice President of the european parliament, and lord lamont former chancellor of the exchequer and supporter of leave means leave. I will come to you in a second, lord lamont. If i turn to mairead mcguinness, has had become much simpler, do you understand the government position better, as of today . Not particularly. I think i understand what the uk does not want to be part of because very clearly the red lines of the Customs Union and the Single Market. By regret that but i feel those are the red lines. But im not sure what the United Kingdom wants in terms of the fib in partnership. I know these items were published last august in the position paper but the option the Prime Ministers seems to be backing is unprecedented and there has been no worked until flesh out. What we are watching is literally a battle within the conservative party about what it wants for brexit, and in the meantime we here at European Union level are trying to make sure that we do reach some agreement with the United Kingdom because we want to have a relationship, post brexit. But we also have to finalise the details of the Withdrawal Agreement and a period so it would be quite a busy time and this week is certainly an interesting week in those developments. Mairead mcguinness, does it matter if all this is unprecedented . For example when Michel Barnier comes to london and says terrorists for example when Michel Barnier comes to london and says tarrifs are unavoidable, they are not. Everyone is calling everyone elses bluff. Tariffs are not unavoidable. I dont think this is a game of bluff because in my office for example practically everyday there representatives of british industry, whether from the pharmaceutical sector or others trying to get me to understand their position and i understand it completely. Because they have fears about moving away from the european Regulatory Framework when it comes to access to pharmaceuticals for example. Lets stop calling this a game of bluff. It is not, it is about peoples lives and livelihoods and this is why, politically this is difficult. Michel barnier needs to spell out how things are. If the uk leads the Customs Union and Single Market and we dont know what will be in its place, and right to do that and i think that david davis understands that and i hope other ministers understand it. What i hope will happen this week is that officials and others will come to a better idea for the uk wants. You will understand better than most the huge question over the irish border. Do you really think the Eu Parliament will pass any deal that creates a border with an ireland . I think the question is the other way around. It is the one piece of text i keep very close to my heart. It is about this agreement which the United Kingdom has made, it is paragraph 49 of the text. I think its really important that the United Kingdom has given a clear commitment that would be no return to a hard border on the island of ireland. It wants to do that in terms of future arrangements, that needs to be compatible, it is saying they will have specific solutions to the border. But with respect to your position, i represent a Border Community on the island of ireland. We know what we have today and that is what we value. And we very much appreciate the United Kingdom s agreement that there will be no hard border and we would appreciate the United Kingdom coming to the table and negotiating with the eu so there is no hard border. This is part of the process, you know how difficult the Withdrawal Agreement was, the last minutes when it was finally agreed on money and borders and Citizens Rights . I hope its not the same with this feature partnership. Because we needed for security of business and others that we get some sort of framework in place so that business can understand what lies ahead. Sure. Mairead mcguinness thank you. Lord lamont, first those comments from anna soubry who was called upon the Prime Minister to show some spine and sling at the hardline brexiteers. She has named borisjohnson and Jacob Rees Mogg in particular and she points to 35 others. Messi i think that is quite ridiculous, frankly. I dont want to be rude about anna soubry but she does tend to go over the top sometimes. I think she is doing that here. There are, obviously, while the government is formulating its approach, different voices from different parts of the party. She is not wrong when she says that the divisions over europe brought down major and brought down cameron and theresa may will be the third victim unless she stands up to them. I dont think these hardline brexiteers as you call them are aiming to bring her down, far from it, they are trying to influence in one direction. Do you think they do have that influence . Are they in control . Of course not. They do things that anna soubry was objecting to, one leaving the Customs Union, and never leaving the Single Market. Theresa may has decided to pursue that for two simple reasons. The first with the Customs Union is to have the freedom to strike trade deals elsewhere in the world, and leaving the Single Market is essential because she judges, and i think she was this strongly, that the British Public will also determined that we should have greater control over our borders. She says . And you cant do that unless you leave the Single Market. Those of two reasons, it is not to do with any faction in the conservative party. She feels differently, she calls them ideological brexiteers who are not tories. Let me run is passing. Something has to give. If theresa may doesnt stand up and show, as she calls it, spine, not only will we get Jacob Rees Mogg as Prime Minister, she says, we will get a hardline brexit that will cause damage. Would you welcomeJacob Rees Mogg is Prime Minister . When she says devastating hardline brexit she was objecting to two things the Prime Minister has decided. Leaving the Single Market and leaving the Customs Union. I have explained that that is being done for logical reasons, not because Jacob Rees Mogg or anyone else asked for it. Other people have asked for it. Mairead mcguinness, you just heard, is that not only is this unprecedented, this is not a game of bluff, businesses and people and lives will be affected because there is no deal possible without tariffs that cost money. If there is a Free Trade Agreement, tariffs will. Why would they . There has to be Free Trade Agreement because it is overwhelmingly in the interests of the European Union. I make the assumption that the eu is rational and will look after own interests. We keep telling ourselves that it is europes interest to come to the table and give us the deal we want but europe has made very little of the running so far and it will survive without the uk. We are sitting in the uk, quite understandably, the way you look at it, you say, this is what the eu wants, thats never going to change, and heres what britain once, it is unattainable. Thats how the domestic press look at it but it isnt the reality. What was said before the financial settlement was agreed, 100 billion, that has never come down and in the end the eu changed its position and theresa may got what she wanted and i think that will happen again. Thank you forjoining us. The white house has said it is concerned about the fall on us stock markets today after the Dow Jones Industrial average dropped by 1,175 points, the biggest one day fall in six years. Our Business Editor helen thomas is here. What happened, what is this down to . Just to put a bit of context, this is a huge drop, the biggest percentage fall in six years. I think its the biggest fall in points terms ever on the dow. What will have rattled people, at one point today it was down nearly 1600 points in a short space of time, there was a sense of panic selling. There was a pretty big drop on the markets in the usa on friday, and the same in europe. The stock markets had a very strong january and theyve wiped out those gains in a couple of days and some are down for the year. We are seeing that of the two years where stock markets only went up, ina straight line, volatility is definitely back. A massive jump in the so called fear gauge today. How do you see these figures . Everyone has been waiting for a market correction, markets going up, there have been concerns about overvaluation. The question is whether this is a quick, healthy correction after which people see an opportunity to get back in or is it something more lasting . The important thing is that this started in the bond markets, theyve been selling off since the beginning of the year. It started with good news, a stronger global economy, making people think that maybe Central Banks are going to put the brakes on, fewer Interest Rate rises than we thought and it rattled the markets. What people are worried about is that it may be a more pronounced pick up and there is uncertainty especially about inflation. If thats the case it has the prospect of causing more problems and having a lasting effect on the markets. Thank you forjoining us. Tomorrow marks 100 years since the first women won the right to vote. The day will be marked in a speech by theresa may praising the heroism of the Suffrage Movement and warning that debate in modern politics is being coarsened by bitterness and abuse. Tonight, we devote the rest of the programme to asking if we should feel proud of how far weve come in since 1918 or berate the lack of more substantial progress. With our panel of guests we look at then, now and the whole issue of gender itself. Is that now going out of fashion . Heres a brief history of the journey with a bit of help from the dvd collection. Remember when cavewomen used to dress like this . Weve come a long way since the lower paleolithic period though it doesnt always feel that way. The history of womens progress can be told through cinema. Women should not exercise judgement in political affairs. Although the fact this film, suffragette, took so long to make and went bankrupt along the way probably tells us much of the story as much as the film itself. It spoke of women winning a political voice at the ballot box. We are in every home, were half the human race. You cant stop us all. In land girls, we saw how warforced women to match up to the men, entering the workforce in their hundreds of thousands in the first half of the 20th century. Fast forward to the late 60s, that workforce of women, beginning to win the right to be paid the same as men for the work they were doing. Una rguably, thats still a work in progress. Sorry, i thought the secretary would sit out here. Thats right. Im the secretary. By the 80s, the shoulder pad embodied the boardroom power battle. Women working their way up to leadership positions in business and politics, even if they did still call on Harrison Ford to lead them there. As societal acceptance of single teen motherhood was landed in audiences laps withjuno, a film that dares to frame the question of abortion before plumping, big time, pro life. What, are you ashamed that we did it . No. Because at least you dont have to have the evidence under your sweater. Im going to head out. Oh, no, no. Thank you. Why dont you stay over . Yes, no, im not going to stay here. You have an early day. Meanwhile, amy schumer was telling men on a one night stand what to do in bed, the sexual revolution dictated by women who knew how to enjoy sex and when to tell men to go home. Whilst hollywood took these messages of female empowerment and threw money at the womens revolution, behind the scenes the exploitation was flourishing, as the me too Movement Continues to lay bare. And you dont have to look hard to find a battle still being fought in the workplace. So that was the first 200,000 years. Will the next few move any quicker . Which way will feminism go now . Joining me to discuss this i have the artist tracey emin, the novelist anne atkins, the former deputy leader of the labour party harriet harman, and ash sarkar, the Senior Editor of novara media. What a pleasure to have you here. Harriet, was there a time in your life that was pre feminism . Was there an awakening when things felt different . Absolutely, distinctly, i remember growing up, the idea that the big ambition for a girl was to have a good husband and when shed achieved this ambition, to be a good housewife to that husband. And men were regarded as superior and women, subordinate. The thing about the Womens Movement, they came along and said we arent inferior, we want to be treated as equal and to be partners with our husband. Did you accept it at first . I didnt because my mother didnt accept it, she said to me, most people think that if a man says something it is more likely to be true than if a woman says it but i dont agree with that. So i was getting subversive messages. However also getting the general view that i should get a husband and get a bit of education but not too much because no man would want to marry a girl who is too clever by half in case she outshone him. A lot of mixed messages and then the Womens Movement came along and said, forget that, we want to be equal in the home, outside the home, in public life, everything else. Ash, do you think there has been a moment for you or has feminism been vulnerable . I was lucky in how i was raised, i grew up with feminism, my mum from an early age would make picture books with my sister and i doing adventurous things so wed grow up with a sense of possibility but we were taught about experiences in the Womens Movement in the 70s and 80s. She told us it wasnt the most accommodating place to be a woman of colour and while we talk about the mainstream history of feminism, the one we are celebrating today, there is a counter history of feminism led by female trade unionists, by migrant women, women of colour, and crossing with the anti colonial and antiracism movements. One of the important things to remember is that there isnt a single feminist movement. Do they contradict each other or do they pull in Different Directions . Often people in Different Directions but they dont have too. They go in Different Directions because social movements reflect the hierarchies in society and its only through solidarity that we can redress that. I cant think of a contemporary artist who has lifted the lid on women are more than your work, whether it is sexual behaviour, abortion, the sort of, you know, the raw truth about what it is to be a woman and all the difficult bits. Do you think you started a conversation that wasnt being had before . Yeah, i think a lot of the things that happened to me in my life, whether its rape, whether its abortion, i was raised by my mum, a single mum who raised me, i think having those experiences made me a much stronger woman because its pretty painful, the whole thing is painful, being a woman is excruciatingly painful. When you talked about rape and when you talked about your own abortion, did you feel that was breaking a big taboo . I think so, a lot of women are really ashamed about abortion for example but ive always said that no woman wants to have an abortion, you dont wake up and feel like having one. You do it and it feels horrific to go through that, no woman wants to have an abortion. You are in a position where it is hobsons choice, you have no choice. Maybe in hindsight you regret it but at the time thats all you can possibly do and you feel very much alone. I think society has been incredibly cruel to a lot of women who have made that decision one way or another. Do you think this is a valuable conversation that is being had now . Has this been a liberation for women . Were speaking as if feminism was invented in the late 20th century but i think it goes back thousands of years. You think about the campaign to end war, and men who have campaigned. On some of the points that tracey made, talking about abortion and being able to have one, is that progress . Yes, the last hundred years have been progress. I think weve made mistakes, as you do with any radical changes. I think the biggest mistake i would pinpoint is when, you know, there are some ways in which 100 years ago womens lives were better than mens. Instead of mens being raised to womens standards. For instance, lung cancer, men have very steadily fewer and fewer of them are dying of lung cancer, more women are dying of it. We are doing something wrong, 100 years ago, women smoked less. You could take Breast Cancer and Prostate Cancer and reverse them. Thats not what im saying, alcoholism, men used to be three and a half times more likely to be drinking to their own detriment, now the gap has narrowed in the wrong direction and the same with promiscuous sex and all sorts of things. Of course wed agree that the last 100 years have been huge progress but not everything has been right. A lot of women were dying before the age of 45 in childbirth. Sure. They didnt make it past 45, forget lung cancer, they didnt even get through childbirth. Youre not hearing what im saying, by and large its progress, of course it is, we are grateful for the last hundred years, but im not saying weve got everything right. Of course we havent. Id like to make more progress in promiscuous sex, im speaking for myself here. But the point im making is that one of the things i think we need to get back to doing is talking about power rather than just personal choices. I think that a feminism that emphasises how much sex is the feminist amount of sex to have, how much you should be drinking, misses the point. The point is that women, politically, socially and economically are disempowered. Its really nothing to do with these personal choices. We all agree, im pinpointing a tiny detail about what were talking about, we havent got everything right, thats all. One of the big issues, the gender pay gap, generating hundreds of column inches and this column shows that the gap is still present. By the time a girl hits 20 years old there is a pay gap and that expands as women hit child bearing age. I know you want to come in harriet, how can we be 47 years on from the equal pay act and still be talking about this . Because pay discrimination. In the past, in the pre feminist days, it was positively regarded as a bad thing to argue for a womans pay rate to be equal to a mans because he had to be the breadwinner and bring home the family wage and it was distracting against the struggle for him to have a proper wage for her to have a proper wage so it was frowned upon, even in the trade union movement. And the argument then was that then women were entitled to equal pay and not everyone agrees that it is right that they should but of course pay discrimination flourishes in secret. Now we have the transparency that is coming in but everyone is going to have to publish their pay gap if they employ more than 250 people, by april. And at that point we will be able to see laid bare the extent of the discrimination and be able to tackle and but part of it is because of the Unequal Division of labour in the home. If youve got a situation where women have most responsibility for caring for children and older relatives, the corollary is that they lose out in the workplace. That is why mens involvement in the home with their children and elderly relatives is as important as women being able to do more at work. Have we overly defined the role that men can play without feeling emasculated or damaged in some way . Women can now do everything, cant they . They can do everyjob and they can stay at home and look after children, but it is much harderfor a man to take that role in the home without it being. The thing here is that we fought for maternity pay and leave to be longer and higher. We also fought for paternity pay and leave but actually at some point we are saying, why dont men fight for paternity pay instead of saying to us how hard it is for them to ask to work part time, why dont they fight for that, because we cant fight mens battles as well as womens. On the equal pay thing, everyone keeps talking about hundred years and it isnt. For most women it is 90 years. The vote for the majority of women came in in 1928 and you had to be a property owner, you had to be university educated, and you had to be over 30. So we can now Start Talking about class. That cut out the majority of women in this country. And sadly enough, the majority of women in this country will only vote for their husbands vote for, im afraid, and a lot of people shoot me down for that but it is true. Im glad you mentioned class and i think this is a good time to think about how race, class and gender work together, because there is a gender pay gap and it gets worse if you are a woman of colour. A black woman is three times more likely to be unemployed than a white woman. All these things have economic outcomes. It also means you can have patriarchy without the immediate figure of a patriarch, just these deeply unequal outcomes that need addressing, its one of the things that has negatively affected us. Can i finish this, one sad thing is the demise of union agitation for better pay and conditions along the lines of gender and race. In the era of sheryl sandberg, we think that if we improve our attitude we will be treated better at work, no. You only improve with collective agitation. Can ijust ask, is the problem that women have tried to emulate the male working patterns instead of discovering their own . It is a mischaracterisation to imply that feminism is about individualism. Because, for the most part, feminism is about the creed of solidarity, and what we wanted was collective feminism in the workplace for trade unions to adopt the rights of women as well as men. Some feminists have argued for individualism but the majority would want collective action. There is more than one strain of feminism. Im saying that theres a different kind of history, socialist feminist history. Thats more useful for Getting Better conditions. Im glad you brought up the fact that women of colour are even more discriminated against another women. Of course we must address that. But there is a fundamental difference between Racial Discrimination and gender discrimination in that one day we can envisage full equality across the races. Let me finish. With sexual differences, in a sense, there will never be that unless we are constantly striving for it because women will always be more vulnerable. We are weaker physically, generally speaking and our reproductive functions make us more vulnerable socially. You think we will wipe out racism before we wipe out. We will never. Because when i walked down the street i am more vulnerable than one my husband walks down the street. Thats obvious. The reason i raise that is because there is a sense in which we will always have to keep striving for sexual equality and we will only get it when we get things like child care. With all due respect i think this is historical. If you look at this public and private divide between home and work this is a product of the industrial revolution. I know it is, of course. Similarly, racism is a product of historical forces. If i canjust say it in terms of what i have felt has held me back in my life, i have experienced the most violence and hostility, it has been because of my race, not my gender. Of course. Maybe in 500 years we will have babies born in labs but the point is that women have to take more time out to have a baby even if its only a few days its still more than men have to. So unless we have proper childcare and keep fighting positive discrimination. Im just going to move us on because anne has talked about the future, 500 years and babies born in labs and Something Interesting is going on. So whats the future of this debate . Where will it go next . Following the womens march in washington last year, there was a backlash from some women about how female empowerment is being framed. The use of pink pussy hats and banners associating the movement with vaginas were criticised by transgender activists. This year the pussycat movement said it would discard the pink hats and the vagina as symbol of female empowerment to make sure no one felt excluded. So i wonder what the future looks like. Tracy and will start with you. Are we re evaluating gender as a whole . When i first went to art school in 1983, i was interviewed by two women and they asked me one question, what do you think of feminism. This was in 1983 and i said i dont. They said why not. I said, ijust have to do what i have to do to get on and that has been my attitude. A lot of women spend too much time talking about things, getting theories, sitting down, it is no good just sitting down at a table and being an armchairfeminist. You have to get out there, change things, have a voice, be motivated. Ive changed a lot in the art world. I have changed a lot for women. I have a very loud voice on womens issues because i live them. Im not sitting around philosophising. I have gone through these things. I have been raped. I have had abortions. My list of catastrophes in my life is endless. Im not looking through a history book and guessing what will happen in the future, talking about here and now and how we must change things and what we must do. Id like to see one big policy change and i think it would make life that for a lot of women in this country. Id like an end to the hostile environment immigration policy. In march last year a five months pregnant woman who had been kidnapped and raped over a period of six months went to the police to report her experience. She was taken to a Rape Crisis Centre and then arrested and interrogated for immigration offences. The immigration policy we have today makes women vulnerable. We incarcerate victims of torture, sexual violence, thats got to end. It has to come back too, for you, race, race is intrinsic to the feminist debate . Race and class. All right. To anne and harriet, this movement to take the vagina out of feminism, to de gender everything, do you understand that . To say, i dont want to recognise the female of the feminine, i want to move somewhere totally neutral . I am always a bit anxious when the general progressive movements seem to be arguing amongst themselves rather than looking to the wrongs out there. I think rather than an internal critic of feminism we should look at the problems of misogyny and turning ourselves outwards. Every sort of discrimination and prejudice is wrong, whether it is on race, disability, gender or sexual orientation. Everyone has to fight in their own way. But all of them, whatever people are doing on this issues is better than those opposing change and opposing equality, so i think in a way we shouldnt have a hierarchy of inequality orjudge each other too harshly because we are always being judged ourselves. We have to try to be generous to all of us who are fighting against hatred and prejudice, and for equality. Anne, i will give you the last word. I want to go back to where you started, personal experiences. My inspiration through life has been my mother, the most amazing person. She came to this country at 18 on her own from australia to take up a maths scholarship when women couldnt take degrees in a mans subject, she took some of the best mathematicians in the country, and yet her greatest joy, i will be shot down in this but her greatest joy was being and a mother. What my mother had that was a wonderful was the most terrific joy in life. She had her choices. She had a fantastic brain and yet even more important than maths, which she adored was the people in her life. She symbolises a fantastic voice. She still had a period and had to pay tax on every tampon and sanitary towel she used and that should be stopped immediately, but is barbaric. She never mentioned it because you just enjoy to life. Week have run out of time, thank you all for coming in. Evan will be here tomorrow, thank you all for watching and a very good night, bye bye. Some of us some of us tomorrow some of us tomorrow will be waking up some of us tomorrow will be waking up to some of us tomorrow will be waking uptoa some of us tomorrow will be waking up to a little covering of snow, not a lot. We are predicting 1 3 centimetres. More in the hills. Snow through northern ireland. Not a lot. Some passing scotland during the early hours of the morning. Moving into the north west of england as well as northern wales. By sam, snowing around the lake district. Just in the yorkshire. Northern wales. The south and east of that, frost. This is the picture around eight oclock on tuesday. The cold front went through by then. This is it. Strong winds around the western isles. Wintry showers. Temperatures around freezing. This is the weather front, snowing. Not a large one. Widespread snow. Hit and miss. When it slows, when it settles, cars and pavements, watch out. Not a lot of snow, but enough to cause delays and problems in the north and north west and wales possibly. Tuesday afternoon, the weather front falling apart. Not much snow. Cloud in the midlands and the south. Just the chance snow could prop up in lincolnshire and east anglia tomorrow evening. Tomorrow night, the coldest night of the week. Temperatures in rural areas down to 5 temperatures in rural areas down to 5, even on the south coast. Negative double digits. 11, 12. Have lower in scotland. Very cold. Perhaps lower. Hit and miss snow. Some of us will have it and some will mist it completely. Sunshine. Crisp and cold on wednesday. Initially, at least. Then look at this. The east will be bright and cold. Thursday, briefly, south westerly winds. Turning more mild. Cloud and rain. Friday, turning more cold again. This is newsday on the bbc. Im rico hizon in singapore, the headlines us markets take a big hit. The dowjones industrial nosedives nearly 1,200 points in one day alone making it the largest point drop in history. Us Vice President mike pence begins his journey to the Winter Olympics in south korea, as he seeks to counter warming ties with north korea. Im Sharanjit Leyl in london. Also in the programme in 1987 she blew up a south korean plane, the bbc speaks to a former north korean spy about the country she was once prepared to kill for. The ultimate goal of north korea is to complete its nuclear programme. They have nothing on their mind but nuclear weapons