Transcripts For BBCNEWS BBC News At Five 20180117

Spend the night stranded in their cars. More than one in ten nurses is leaving the nhs in england every year and more people are now leaving the profession thanjoining it. The cricketer ben stokes will be considered for selection for englands 20 20 series next month despite being charged with affray. And for the first time in nearly a thousand years the bayeux tapestry will be seen in britain well have the details. Its 5 oclock. Our main story is the continued fallout from the collapse of carillion the Major Construction group putting thousands of jobs and companies at risk. The Insolvency Service has said that more than 90 per cent of carillions private Sector Service customers have indicated they will provide funding to allow workers to continue to be paid. It also said work had been paused on construction sites, pending decisions as to how and if they will be restarted. Laboursjeremy corbyn has accused the government of being negligent when it continued awarding contracts to the carillion after its financial problems became public. Documents seen by the bbc show carillion had £29 million in cash when it collapsed but owed more than £1. 3 billion to its banks. Our Business Correspondent Simon Gompertz has more details. Prime minister, why were contract awarded to carillion despite the warnings . As people depending on carillion wait anxiously to hear about theirjobs, the Prime Minister was being put under pressure over the governments role in the collapse. These corporations need to be shown the door. We need our Public Services provided by Public Employees with a Public Service ethos and a strong public oversight. As the ruins of carillion lie around her, will the Prime Minister act to end this costly racket of the relationship between the government and some of these contracts . I might remind the honourable gentleman that a third of these contracts were let by the labour government. What we want is good quality Public Services delivered at best value to the taxpayer. We are making sure the Public Services continue to be provided, that the workers are supported and taxpayers are protected. With the blame game kicking off, more detail has emerged about the dire financial state that carillion was in. This multi billion pound business had just £29 million in cash when it went under on monday. Set against that was £1. 3 billion of debt, a figure which rises above £2 billion when all the money owed to banks is taken into account. This senior insolvency expert says dealing with the carillion mess is an unprecedented challenge. If someone is owed money by carillion and is hoping they will get that back from the official receiver, what hope do they have . This is one of the biggest insolvencies i have come across in my career, and i cant stress enough how terrible the situation is. Individual contractors will probably have to wait years before they even know definitively whether they will receive anything or not. Interserve is working to support and enhance our customers. The share price of interserve has dropped sharply, it also has cleaning, security and other contracts with government. Later the Cabinet Office said it wasnt in a comparable position. This flooring business in hampshire told today how it had narrowly avoided being taken down by carillion by deciding to refuse work without being paid upfront. Eventually it does become a principal, that is the thing. When it is your own business and your own money, the principal kicks in, no, you are not going to treat us like this. We jump through hoops to do the work, and you do the work to a good standard, so pay me when you need to pay me . Nine in ten of carillions private service customers, not builders, have indicated they will provide funding, so workers can continue to be paid. Simon gompertz, bbc news. Our chief Political Correspondent vicki young is at westminster. Still questions today to ministers, why they were allocating contracts when financial problems were evident to most people. What have the minister s been saying . To most people. What have the minister s been saying . The government is being asked about how closely they were watching over currently in. Today theresa may seemed to try to distance the government from that, making the fair point that it is not the government that managed the company. But the government was not just any old customer but an absolutely Huge Customer and the knock on effects from the collapse of this company could and are absolutely huge. So where they watching carefully enough and did they have enough contingency in place. Interesting for theresa may because she is talked about corporate morality and stepping in more when it comes to the private sector and so far heard this is a test. But with those specific questions about why they were handing out contracts still, Chris Grayling the transport secretary gave his response especially about the hsz gave his response especially about the hs2 contract which was dished out after the profit warnings. The hs2 contract which was dished out after the profit warningsm has been clear for some time that cruden has had issues but many Construction Firms have had issues over the years. Hsz did not have a contract with a Single Company and it was a consortia. The whole consortium, the whole joint venture is responsible for delivering the project. The judgment has to be is the contract intact and will the work be done. It is not for government and not for hsz to exclude firms and possibly pushed under because of the impact on their business. It would be illegal to do so business. It would be illegal to do so because there is no legal reason to exclude them. We just need to make sure the contract is deliverable, we make sure that the staff are covered and they will be iio staff are covered and they will be no impact on the h52 project. Now of course the labour leader, for him this plays into the political argument he has been making ever since he became leaderfull stop is talked about what he sees as the limitations of the private sector and today made it clear that he feels it should be Public Sector workers with what he called the Public Sector ethos. So this allows him to make and develop those arguments, there will be enquiries into what went wrong as well. So ha rd to into what went wrong as well. So hard to see how things are not going to change in some way, whether it will be as radical asjeremy corbyn wa nts will be as radical asjeremy corbyn wants is another matter. But ministers are having to respond to a shift in the argument. Many thanks. A court has heard claims today that the former football manager gary speed was one of four men to take their own lives after being coached by Barry Bennell. The court held, heard evidence to date in the case. What has been said exactly . The man giving evidence is the fifth person to do so at this trial. Barry bennell now known as Richard Jones faces 11 counts of sexually abusing boys between 1979 and 1990 four. Cou nts boys between 1979 and 1990 four. Counts that he denies. He did admit one count of abusing this particular witness who has said that although he has no way of knowing whether it was a factor, he does know that gary speed is one of four people who have since committed suicide who did play in youth teams that Barry Bennell was involved with. The timing of this, and this is crucial and many viewers will be wondering why he is speaking about gary speed now. He said in his own case this Court Proceedings he is hoping will give some closure and he said that in the past since gary speed killed himself he has tried to contact his family about this. Because he had read that one of the problem is that they had was they had no real explanation for why their son, who was widely regarded as a very successful footballer and manager and well liked, decided he had to take his own life. He thought one way of getting a message to them about this would be wrapped by offering them this closure. Many thanks. Parts of scotland and Northern Ireland have been covered in thick snow bringing disruption to schools and roads. Hundreds of drivers spent last night stranded on the m71; where a section of the motorway in Dumfries And Galloway was impassable. Mountain rescue teams were sent to help people who were stuck. Traffic scotland say gritters had been working to clear routes but efforts were hampered by lorries which were blocking roads. Our scotland correspondent lorna gordon reports. The snow fell hard and fast. Blizzard conditions overnight on one of scotlands most important routes. Motorists faced treacherous conditions on the steepest stretches of the m74, the line of traffic slowing to a standstill, stranding drivers. Some were stuck for hours. I have been on the go since half past one yesterday, but not a lot you can do about it. You just think in this day and age that these things shouldnt happen. Lots of idiots in the third lane going too fast. Steady, but it was getting worse, so i chose to stop here, im going on to glasgow. Mountain rescue teams were turned from the hills to the roads, checking the drivers were safe. We were called in by Police Scotland to go and check the welfare for the people in their vehicles. They had been there for quite a serious period of time, so it was ourjob to go and check their welfare and make sure they were 0k. With conditions so bad overnight, those that could got off the motorway and parked up where it was safe. And this stretch of the m711 is, for now, open once again. But the weather is deteriorating, and the snow is continuing to fall. These pictures from North Lanarkshire showjust how challenging driving in the snow and ice can be. One lorry driver struggling to maintain control. Throughout the country, the gritters were out, clearing routes. But all schools in the borders and many elsewhere throughout scotland were closed because of the snow. Many schoolchildren in Northern Ireland are also missing classes, where nearly 300 schools have been shut for the day. Hundreds of homes remain without power. The Emergency Services struggled through the difficult conditions. In halifax in yorkshire, the public helped out after an ambulance responding to a 999 call got stuck in the heavy snow. Some places have had more than a foot of snow. The views are stunning. But there are warnings of more bad weather, snow and ice, to come. Lorna gordon, bbc news, abingdon. Lets cross live now to our correspondent catriona renton, who joins us from abington in lanarkshire. Tell us about the conditions and prospects for the next 2a hours. Tell us about the conditions and prospects for the next 24 hours. We are standing just above the 74, the road that was so badly affected last night. This runs right through the middle of the amber warning and it is predicted to start around nine oclock this evening and once again concerns that the road could be affected. Preparations had been made through the day, the grifters have been out, and some of them have got great names well. Salter scott, one of the grifters out here. Many of them out today trying to avoid problems as we had last night for the Scottish Government has apologised to those stuck in their ca is apologised to those stuck in their ca rs last apologised to those stuck in their cars last night, the police have increased a travel warning to their highest warning, level four, saying if youre in an area affected by the amber warning then do not travel. They say if you do travel you could be subject to long delays and you could be asked to park somewhere safe if you are in an hdv. So if youre in one of these affected areas the advice is do not travel. Hgv. Areas the advice is do not travel. Hgv. Plenty of schoolchildren had the day off today, around 200,000 children today. And all of Scottish Borders schools are closed again tomorrow. So i guess for some it has been a day to enjoy the snow but for those who suffered last night here it has been horrible. Thank you for the update. The latest figures underline the scale of the challenge facing nhs england in recruiting and retaining nurses. The figures given exclusively to the bbc show more nurses left the nhs in england last year thanjoined. More than 33,000 nurses gave up theirjobs and this year the gap between those who left the profession and those who joined it has widened. The Royal College of nursing says more must be done to support younger nurses at the start of their careers as our Health Correspondent Dominic Hughes reports. She became a nurse to help people, excited at the prospect of making a difference, but in the end, thejob overwhelmed mary trevelyan. I would still often end up in tears during a shift because there was just so much pressure and stress. A never ending list of things to do, guilt over not having enough time to care for patients. Stress led to depression, and mary has had to leave the job she loved. I want to be a great nurse and i want to give my patients my best, but i feel that i cant do that at the moment because were just too short staffed, too busy. Theres far too many things for us to be doing. Weve analysed the number of nurses working in the nhs in england. Last year, more than 33,000 nurses walked away from their Health Service jobs. Thats a 20 rise, compared to four years ago, and leavers outnumber new joiners. And almost one in four of those leavers are relatively young under30. All of this has potentially serious implications for a sustainable nursing profession. Well, this is incredibly worrying because this is a time when were meant to be recruiting extra nurses because of the vacancies weve already got. As well as planning really for increased demand on health care in the future, we should really be training many, many more nurses, and so we should have been for the last few years. Many nurses are thinking about, or have already left the profession, and thats just one reason why so many hospitals are struggling to recruit properly trained staff. And yet, the government tells us that thousands more nurses are working in the nhs today than there were in 2010. In order to retain staff, to keep them on the books, they need to give them new opportunities. And thats what nurses like sarah dalby are making the most of. Shes now able to perform surgery, thanks to Specialist Training developing new skills that are taking her a long way from the traditional nursing role. I think its always nice to have an option to develop into another pathway, or another opportunity, if thats what you want to do. Its not for everyone. Because nursings so varied. And it is a real privilege to be a nurse. We care for patients at such a vulnerable time in their lives. And its challenging, certainly challenging at the moment, but that doesnt deviate from how rewarding it is as a career. Mary has not turned her back on nursing altogether. Like some of her friends, shes now thinking of working abroad. But todays nhs is not for her, and many other nurses appear to be reaching a similar conclusion. Dominic hughes, bbc news. Stay with us because in a few minutes ill be speaking janet davies, the head of the Royal College of nursing, who you saw in that report. This is bbc news at five the headlines. Thousands of people whove worked on private Sector Service contracts for the failed company carillion have been told they will continue to be paid. A court hears claims that the former wales manager gary speed was one of four men who took their own lives after being coached by Barry Bennell. And there are new warnings of persistent heavy snow for many northern parts of the uk after hundreds of drivers spent last night stranded in their cars. And in sport. The ecb will let ben stokes play on their tour of new zealand next month despite the all rounder being charged with affray this week. They left him out of the ashes as he waited to hear if he would be charged after a nightclub brawl last september. He has vowed to clear his name. Theo walcott has joined everton, signing for three and half years in a £20 million deal. And eddiejones has signed a two Year Contract extension with the rugby football union. He will remain as head coach until two years after the next world cup. A full update in the next 15 minutes. A court has heard that a man kidnapped two women and cut their throats before leaving one of them dead in a freezer in a disused house. Mujahid arshid from kingston in south west london is facing multiple charges, including the rape and murder of 20 year old Celine Dookhran which he denies. 0ur correspondentjon donnison is at the old bailey. What is the latest. Today the prosecution laid out their case. The court was told that Celine Dookhran was the niece of mujahid arshid and the prosecution alleges that injuly of last year mujahid arshid kidnapped Celine Dookhran along with another young woman who cannot be named for legal reasons. He bound and gagged them and then allegedly bundled into the back of his pick up truck and took them to a house that he had been working on as a builder in south west london. Theyre the allegation is that he raped both young women, he slit their throats and put the body of Celine Dookhran into a chest freezer. Now the court was told today by the prosecution that it was told today by the prosecution thatitis was told today by the prosecution that it is possible that mujahid arshid wanted to kill the young woman by putting them in a freezer. A p pa re ntly woman by putting them in a freezer. Apparently he had googled what temperature does the human body freeze in the weeks before the alleged attacks took place. Now the second woman who as i say we cannot name, she managed to persuade mujahid arshid allegedly not to kill her. They were able to leave the house and she was then able to alert family and police. A second man appeared in court today, vincent tappuha, hes 28 years old and he is of persisting assisting mujahid arshid in the initial kidnapping. Both men deny all the charges and the trial is expected to last 45 weeks. Thanks. He only lasted six days as Donald Trumps White House Communications director but Anthony Scaramucci has certainly remained loyal to the president , who he says will secure a second term in office. the mooch as he became known during his short tenure, has been speaking to stephen sackhur for bbc hardtalk. Hes going to win re election, because hes got the right policies for the American People and by the way, before the cameras were rolling we were talking about governor romney who i supported. Governor romney was a great candidate for president , but its almost impossible to beat an incumbent president in a Rising Economic situation. You can go back to 1880, it doesnt happen. So hes going to win re election. You are an extraordinary promoter of the trump cause, but im going to end with this quote. Im just talking facts with you. Im going to end with this quote from a republican senatorjeff flake, who has split with trump. He thinks that trump is very bad for america. He knows hes not going to get renominated because of his stand. This is what he said, because he has basically killed his own career by making a stand, he said there are times when we must risk our careers in favour of principle and when the next generation asks us why didnt you do something, and he means do something about trump, why didnt you speak up . What are you going to say . And what are you going to say . What am i going to say . That i enabled this guy . 0k, again, you guys dont like his style. 0bviously senator flake doesnt like his style. I grew up with people like donald j trump. I am part of that neighbourhood environment. I get the difference between the brashness and the style and the capability and the action. And so i predict over the next three years, the capability and the process and the action is going to overwhelm people. Hes going to davos in switzerland next week, he is embracing the global community. He is at the intersection of globalism where he wants peace and prosperity for the world and he has an America First strategy for the american workers. You dont like his style, i get that. Tweeting, i get that. Senator flake doesnt like it. But let me tell you something, lets measure him on substance and when he wins the election you will invite me back and we can have an i told you so moment, like we did when everybody said that he wasnt going to win in the first place. And if you want to see more of that interview you can watch hardtalk on the bbc news channel at half past midnight tonight then itll also be on the bbc iplayer. More now on challenges facing nursing in the nhs as figures obtained by the bbc show a net reduction in the number of nurses in englands Health Service. A quarter of those leaving the profession were under 30. Englands chief nursing officer has admitted there is a problem but that more is being done to retain staff. What we found over the last few years is that we have seen an increase in the number of nursing posts that are available. And i think that is really positive because it has reflected the need that we had, it was based right back from when i first started as ceo and we started talking about the numbers of nurses that we needed in order to provide safe care. I think what we now have found is because it takes a while to train a nurse, what we have found is we have more posts available then we have got nurses to fill them. And then if you add to that the additional pressures that people are under, the increasing demand, the more complex elderly patients, there is a gap between what we need and what we have currently got. So what were doing at the moment to try and manage that is to not only recruit as many people as we can but also keep the nurses that we have got, to retain them in the nhs providing the excellent care that theyre doing at the moment. Joining us now is janet davies, chief executive and general secretary of the Royal College of nursing. Does that explanation about the gap do the trick for you . I think the gap is right and there has been recognition that we need safe numbers of nurses to have good care and good outcomes. And what we have not done and what the nhs has not done is to train enough nurses and prior to that recognition we had posts being cut. So a combination of some bad policies in the past. Trust is not being allowed to overspend and nurses still expensive because they are a large part of the workforce. Those numbers were being cut to balance the books and then the nurses are not there so this is 110w the nurses are not there so this is now the combination and what we would have expected to see where we have high demand and not enough nurses to me that. Are people right to say it is a crisis now . |j nurses to me that. Are people right to say it is a crisis now . I think it is, we have been unable to open extra beds over the winter period, and were still in that point. And thatis and were still in that point. And that is because we do not have the extra nurses and no contingency. Nurses are telling us every day they do not have enough staff, we heard from nurses who have been on two or three wards being moved around to the one that has the biggest crisis in nursing. That is demoralising. You need to know your patients and have a relationship with them. If you were being moved from one ward to another, it becomes very difficult. I wonder about retention andi difficult. I wonder about retention and i mentioned some of those figures around nurses who have been trained, and then they leave before the age of 30 four. To what extent is that widespread and how do you stop that . Well what weve seen is more people are leaving benjoining. So the gap is getting bigger and it is the bigger problem than even anticipated. We are hearing from nurses that they are leaving not because they do not like nursing but because they do not like nursing but because theyre so distraught at not being able to do it properly and theyre going home in tears because theyre going home in tears because they do not think theyve done a good job. They cannot tolerate that any longer and choose to leave. There was no sense of that in the explanation from the chief nursing 0fficer. Explanation from the chief nursing officer. I think she understands the diggers and theirjob is to try to find solutions. It is difficult. We need investment, proper investment in nursing. A number of things have happened, we had a reduction in the actualfunding for happened, we had a reduction in the actual funding for nursing training. It isa actual funding for nursing training. It is a three Year Programme and thatis it is a three Year Programme and that is the quickest way at university, you need to apply for a loan. More mature people do not want to do that. There are other routes but they are apprenticeship models, a nurse associate who is not a registered nurse, that takes a minimum offouryears registered nurse, that takes a minimum of four years or even longer. So while we play around with new models we need to concentrate on the things that will make a difference. Bringing in more nurses. And the other thing is that this is likely to happen again once money becomes short and we need legislation for safe staffing. To keep us and our children safe. We had no legislation to keep us safe and hospitals to say that there is a minimum level of staffing and we believe that is necessary. Those figures which are to do with the nhs in england, but viewers in scotland and Northern Ireland will be wondering if it is the same in their region. We are short staffed in the whole of the uk and this is a problem across the uk but specifically acute in england at the moment. Thank you. Time for a look at the weather. Heres susan powell. Snow will cause us problems again overnight, unlike yesterday perhaps the west of the weather coming through in the small bars rather than rush hour but the met office has an amberwarning than rush hour but the met office has an amber warning for snow in southern scotland and Northern England. A deep area of low pressure may bring gales overnight and heavy rain, a mixture of rain, sleetand snow in Northern Ireland, in the latter pa rt snow in Northern Ireland, in the latter part of the evening into the early hours of thursday, heavy rain moving further south across england and wales, northern scotland with comparatively light winds. I is a problem just about anywhere in the northern half of britain. A chilly wind tomorrow, some wintry showers for the north west. It will pick up in the south west, we could see some coastal flooding here so some challenging weather around in the next 24 hours. This is bbc news. The headlines work is paused on construction sites run by carillion while decisions on the future are made. But work on most of its private Sector Service contracts, such as catering and cleaning, is to carry on until new suppliers can be found. A court hears claims that the former wales manager gary speed was one of four men who took their own lives after being coached by Barry Bennell. New warnings of persistent heavy snow for many northern parts of the uk after hundreds of drivers spend the night stranded in their cars. More than one in ten nurses is leaving the nhs in england every year, and more people are now leaving the profession thanjoining it. Now look at todays sports news. Letsjoin 0llie. Ben stokes can resume his england career next month. The ecb said he is available for selection in their tour of new zealand, just two days after he was charged with affray following and nightclub brawl last september. He was left out of the ashes tour while a Police Investigation was going on. Heres joe wilson. A lot of people thought the ecb would wait until criminal proceedings against ben stokes had finished before considering him for selection. We now know that ben stokes has been charged with affray and will come before magistrates at some point in the future, and in that context the ecb decided it would not be reasonable not to consider him for selection while they wait for those proceedings to reach their conclusion. The poll may ask what has changed in terms of ben sto kes ask what has changed in terms of ben stokes status, now that he is available to go to new zealand but wasnt for the ashes. Maybe it is practicalities, the level of scrutiny from the media and public that he might have faced in new zealand would have been less then he would face in brisbane and england have already seen ben stokes place in domestic cricket in new zealand for canterbury, why, they might ask, should we not get the benefit of him . Theo walcott has completed his move to everton from arsenal on a three and half year deal. The forward had 12 years at the gunners scoring 108 goals in 397 appearances. Hes Sam Allardyces second signing of the january transfer window after the turkish striker chenk tosun. Walcott is believed to have cost 20 million pounds. Englands rugby Union Head Coach eddiejones has signed two Year Contract extension until 2021. He has overseen 22 wins from his 23 tests since he took charge two years ago and they will be looking for a hatrick of six nations titles when the tournament starts next month. He will leave mid way through a world cup cycle but he will help choose his successor. Everyone has a shelf life and i think in eachjob its a certain amount of time. One job it think in eachjob its a certain amount of time. 0nejob it might be one year, somejobs it might be amount of time. 0nejob it might be one year, some jobs it might be five and a half years. Clearly you feel at for years, you have a bit more to give. 100 , and at for years, you have a bit more to give. 10096, and i feeli can do something celsius here for english by, something celsius here for english rugby, iam indebted something celsius here for english rugby, i am indebted for england to the chance to coast the national tea m the chance to coast the National Team and its way giving something back. One other rugby union line, James Haskell will miss englands first two six nations games. Hes been banned forfour weeks after he was sent off for a dangerous tackle on harlequins Jamie Roberts while playing for wasps. Sean murphy had a scare but finally saw off ali carter to reach the masters snooker quarterfinals at alexander palace. Murphy was 4 0 up against his fellow englishman before carter fought back to 5 4 , but murphy recovered to seal a 6 4 win. Hell play world number three judd trump next but believes ronnie 0sullivan is the man to beat. I think we have run out of superlatives for ronnie but its what sets them apart, he gets to the line and rolls over it. Everyone else struggles with that and i didnt feel like i was bottling up but i had my chances to wind at 5 2 andi but i had my chances to wind at 5 2 and i didnt take them so if i had lost, i would only have myself to blame. Thats all the sport for now. You can find more on all those stories on the bbc sport website. Ill see you in sportsday at 6. 30. More now on our top story. The collapse of carillion. The Insolvency Service says former directors of the collapsed Construction Firm will not receive bonus or severance payments. It also says workers employed on private Service Contracts will continue to be paid. There are so many layers to this now, it is quite a complex crisis. Im joined by professor rudi klein, chief executive of the specialist Engineering Contractors group. Thank you for coming in. For you, what are the main concerns emerging . The overriding concern is that payment situation with regard to suppliers. They are owed millions, we cannot calculate the amount, figures like £2 million being bandied about but they are massive. The impact is devastating, so we have to look out how we ensure that at least one Public Sector projects, but preferably across the board, that suppliers are paid. People dont seem to realise that carillion was essentially a Shell Company that could not pay its suppliers and we need to look at how we deal with procurement and payment in future because we cannot continue as we are. Viewers will be listening and thinking, did hejust say are. Viewers will be listening and thinking, did he just say that korean couldnt pay suppliers, and how did that persistent . About five yea rs how did that persistent . About five years ago carillion had 65 day payment periods, then pushed up to 120 days, and then said to suppliers, if you want to get paid earlier, we have an arrangement with certain banks where you can get paid early but have to pay a fee, so they got the banks to make payments for them, obviously the banks have now withdrawn that facilitates that the banks would then come back to korean and say you have to pay us back. With that arrangement not have rung alarm spells . There were alarm spells ringing before them with carillion, they were selling off their offices to raise cash. This was a company that has always been undercapitalised. Everyone knew that, clouds knew it, organisations knew it, and we have to look at how we continue to procure work, major infrastructures works and services, how we now procure that work for the future. 0n the services side, a lot of this work, its to do with catering and maintenance and cleaning barracks, why is this work led to carillion . There are lots of regional firms who could do this work, i think this morning that drier see lord was talking about this issue as well. The other thing we need to look at how we change procurements, instead of going to this big capital company, underwent carillion to take on jobs, we have imperilled the payment situation of the supply chain. I have already mentioned it to the secretary of state, and the business secretary of state has been very supportive. I dont often say nice things about government, but if we had project bank accounts, one pot of money, everything in one part and you pay people out of one pot directly, if we had that we could have reduced these, and last night we discovered that in faslane, the defensive Infrastructure Company were not required retention monies from carillion, which is a Standard Practice in case somebody doesnt come back to fix work. They were holding this money back, carillion we re holding this money back, carillion were holding this money back from their supply chain, so carillion we re their supply chain, so carillion were taking these monies to pass them upstream. Another example of levels of payment abuse. You mentioned reforming the procurement process. If you were asked to draw up process. If you were asked to draw upa process. If you were asked to draw up a more process. If you were asked to draw up a more reliable and transparent process that would protect the taxpayer, what would be the main changes . Focus on cost, not price. 0scar changes . Focus on cost, not price. Oscar wilde said we note the price of everything but the value of nothing, and we need to focus on cost. Carillion was bidding on the lowest possible lump sum prices which would usually result in a higher turnout cost, so we need to focus on cost, and we need to engage the whole of the Delivery Team from the whole of the Delivery Team from the beginning. Some government clients have been talking about this, so the whole team has been working together to deliver projects. 0ne working together to deliver projects. One thing we have tried to work on is integrated public assurance, which means we have one Pilot Project in dudley college, and the insurance policy underwrites the cost plants which ensures that cost plan has to be underwritten by collaboration by companies coming together, and this is the problem with carillion, no one big business can properly manage the delivery of these big projects. There are other arrangements, carillion was a middleman and what we would like to see is more engagement with big suppliers. Engineering is by its nature a costly input. They stand to lose a lot more money than other firms. Im not saying otherfirms will not lose, a lot for small firms and its important to them, but the biggest losses will be within engineering. The other thing, at the moment we have in parliament, a bill to protect these cash retention speakers this is outstanding, carillion owes retention going back three orfour carillion owes retention going back three or four years and fast to meet the millions out standing there, and this bill in the house of commons, First Reading last week, we want to see that theyll come into law and the bill would mean if you take retention monies you have to put them into a deposit, like a tenancy deposit, you have to put the deposit into a separate account to protect it and we want the same for construction. Have we now entered a new world . Is this system we have known for the last ten or 20 years gone . I would like to think it has but it has become so embedded in some way we think about procuring construction work, im afraid this will not be overnight but what i hope, at least what we will pull out of this hole of artful is a new approach to the way we procure, nu approach to the way we procure, nu approach to the way we procure, nu approach to payment stability in this situation. Professor klein, thank you for giving us so much useful information there. The chief executive of the specialist Engineering Contractors group with a detailed but useful look at the nuts and bolts of the carillion crisis. Lets move on. The former education secretary Justine Greening has warned brexit will not be sustainable if it doesnt work for young people. Ms greenings first intervention on brexit from the backbenches came just days after she left the cabinet after declining to move from education secretary to take control of the work and pensions brief during theresa mays reshuffle. I represent a young constituency in london and the bottom line is looking ahead if brexit doesnt work for young people in our country, in the end it will not be sustainable. When they take their place here they will seek to improve or undo what we have done and make it work for them. So we do have a duty to look ahead and ensure whatever we get is sustainable and works for them. Justine greening, the former cabinet minister speaking earlier today. Hundreds of the most vulnerable victims of crime are being tonight the help of a trained intermediary in giving evidence in criminal cases in england and wales. Thats one of the findings of a report from the victims commissioner, lady newlove. Our Legal Affairs correspondent Clive Coleman has more details. Giving evidence in criminal cases can be intimidating for ordinary adults before the young and vulnerable it can truly daunting. Thats where registered intermediaries come in, specialists in communication who work in some of the most distressing cases involving vulnerable witnesses and victims. We worked with a boy who was very distressed and didnt want to speak so distressed and didnt want to speak so but he loved anna mae, so we we re so but he loved anna mae, so we were able to make an animated figure and he could show different parts of his body that had been touched, and i dont think he would have done that otherwise. Concerns were unveiled about the intermediaries scheme. It found that in 250 cases a year, Vulnerable People were not getting an intermediary. Provisions are inconsistent across england and wales. Getting an intermediary is five times more likely in cumbria than london, and there are delays averaging four weeks in matching victims with intermediaries. Registered intermediaries can make the difference between justice delivered and justice denied. Thats why some believe that what has thus far been a scheme should now be built into the criminaljustice act to as a full blown national service. This is professionalising their role, and if we had a National Lead who would gain all that information, would match them, we wouldnt find that inconsistency that this review is finding. And then they could put the role into parliament and recognise it even further. And if they need more, the unit can say, we do need one, we have the data to prove it. The government says intermediaries are valuable in helping vulnerable victims and witnesses, and that is why it recently doubled the size of the scheme. But it welcomes the report, which it says it will carefully consider. For the first time in nearly a thousand years, the bayeux tapestry could be displayed in britain. President macron of france is expected to confirm the loan of the famous work, which depicts the Norman Conquest of england in the 11th century, when he meets theresa may tomorrow. Tests will need to be carried out to ensure the fragile roll of embroidered linen can be safely moved from the museum in northern france, where it is currently housed. 0ur correspondent robert hall has the details. Its 70 metres long, it shows one of the most important periods in our history and yet, this is the closest that most of us can get to the bayeux tapestry. 0ccupying an entire floor of reading city museum is an exact replica of the original, painstakingly created by Elizabeth Wardle and 35 ladies of the leek embroidery society, back in the 1880s. It took them a year, probably the same length of time as the weaving of the real tapestry in canterbury, back in the 11th century. It tells the story leading up to william the conquerors invasion of england in 1066. Along the way, we see over 600 people, 700 animals and, famously, the death of king harold at hastings. When french rule ended, it went back to france and there, it stayed. But now, with the museum in bayeux scheduled for a major renovation, theres an opportunity for the french government to make a gesture of friendship by breaking a centuries old tradition. Translation this is about formalising a really important collaboration with institutions like the british museum, the british library, and english heritage, in order to study and participate in the renovation of our museum. Although the loan may be two years away, discussions have already taken place as to how this delicate and priceless exhibit can be transported and displayed. Bayeux museum is being refurnished. Its hoped to exhibit the bayeux tapestry in a different way. Therefore, theres a window of opportunity. When the tapestry comes off display, its going to be conserved a little bit, and its during that window in about 2022 that theres an opportunity for the tapestry to leave france and to come to the United Kingdom to be displayed here. There will undoubtedly be fierce competition over where the tapestry will be shown. Should it be london, or canterbury, the city where the Norman Bishop 0do first commissioned it . A lot to agree, but the significance of this gesture cannot be underestimated. 0ur correspondent paul adams is in bayeux. Some thoughts on the logistics of moving it and on the thinking behind the loan in the first place . The logistics first, it will take quite a bit longer before the tapestry is ready to move. Picture rate here is thrilled at the prospect that it may be crossing the channel but thinks it will be six years before its ready to go. Its very fragile and they need to take a long look at it before they can determine if it can do this journey. Its worth remembering that tomorrow president macron and theresa may will meet at sandhurst to discuss military cooperation and somebody might like to do cooperation and somebody might like todoa cooperation and somebody might like to do a coda to the bayeux tapestry showing the two leaders shaking hands with a few chin helicopters flying overhead, because that is what they will agree on, so its ha rd to what they will agree on, so its hard to divorce it from current political concerns. President macron has made it clear he is in favour of pan european cultural exchanges and this kicks that often a grand way. 0fficials this kicks that often a grand way. Officials at the elysee have been talking about this and were asking what the british can give to them in return and im told they couldnt think of anything quite so magnificent. Thank you, paul. There is a 19th century copy of the bayeux tapestry in reading museum, and the curator brendan carr joins me now from caversham. Thank you for coming in. Your thoughts on the challenges of moving the original tapestry, how daunting is it . It will be a task. I know the ta pestry is it . It will be a task. I know the tapestry here in reading during the 19th century, Queen Victoria commanded that arthur hill bring it to windsor to be seen, so these things are entirely possible with a lot of thought and preparation, its not unusual for Important Cultural Properties to be shared between nations, museums are in the business of organising that and im sure the professionals in bayeux and elsewhere can take care of that opportunity in terms of the carrot of the artefact. Paul mentioned six yea rs, of the artefact. Paul mentioned six years, does that surprise you . Know, the original tapestry is a very delicate artefacts, to relocate it and return it, you wanted to be unchanged, so the steps that museum professionals, this week in birmingham, or next week, the Natural History museum are placing a depth of focus in Birmingham City museum, so there are all sorts of things that can be pulled off in the name of goodwill, diplomacy, learning stories from these a rtefa cts a nd learning stories from these artefacts and so on are placing a diplodocus. Where there is a willed there is a way, but it will be a complex operation that involves a lot of thought by experts and conservatories. In the meantime, people whose appetites have been whetted, you have that copy is there which will now get more attention. We are delighted at the prospect of the original tapestry coming to the uk, wheni the original tapestry coming to the uk, when i heard the news i had quite a busy day lined up and i thought, it will probably get a little bit busier, and it has been tremendous the amount of interest, and what could happen is that there will be renewed interest in the facsimile copy. It was created in the 19th century by Elizabeth Wardle and her colleagues in the league embroidery society. They created it so england could have its own copy with similar motivations around education and learning about history because there are themes and symbols and emblems and motifs and stories that can be told from the tapestry. Im not sure its alljust about power and dominion and invasion, there is a lot to be derived about shared history and destinies and so on, so with a bit of Co Production and thinking, im sure there will be lots of opportunities for the public in the uk to really benefit from this wonderful diplomatic gesture from emmanuel macron. Very exciting prospect, and youd better get ready for some more visitors. Brendan carr from the reading museum. Bbc news at six pm with sophie coming up soon but susan is back with the weather. Snow tops are forecast again, its gone quiet across the British Isles at the moment but a deep low coming our way tonight and snow will be a problem, the met office has issued at weather warning for southern scotla nd at weather warning for southern scotland and Northern England. For many that will mean gales overnight, and Northern Ireland, a mixture of rain, sleet and snow in the next few hours and then heavier snow in southern scotland and Northern England through the small hours of thursday. A band of wind rips its way across england and wales, the low moves into the north secretly tomorrow but leaves behind ice, especially across the northern half of the British Isles. 0n especially across the northern half of the British Isles. On thursday, after that low pulls away, it will be chilly and there will be wintry showers but for many of us a decent amount of winter sunshine, but take ca re if amount of winter sunshine, but take care if you are travelling later on tonight in southern scotland for Northern England. A lifeline for thousands of workers employed by the failed company carillion many are told theyll keep theirjobs, for now. But as works paused on construction sites run by company, its collapse prompts angry exchanges in parliament. It looks like the government was handing carillion public contracts either to keep the company afloat, which clearly hasnt worked, or it was just deeply negligent. We were a customer of carillion, not the manager of carillion, and thats a very important difference. As politicians argue over the best way to run and deliver Public Services, well be looking at the impact the collapse of the company could have. Also tonight more than one in ten nurses is leaving the nhs in england every year, as the gap between those leaving and joining widens. A court hears former wales manager gary speed is one of four men