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We will look at the Music Associated with the white house, providing a soundtrack to diplomacy. Get in touch with us using the hashtag. Key American Allies are warning President Trump not to move the us embassy in israel to jerusalem. President trump not to move the us embassy in israel tojerusalem. We expect the announcement from the white house tomorrow and it is already prompting concerns internationally, a move fraught with political conversations. Donald trump has been engaged in extensive telephone diplomacy, calling leaders from the region. France and iraq have warned against the plan but it looks likely the us president will recognise jerusalem as looks likely the us president will recognisejerusalem as israels capital. Joining us now, north america editor, john sobel. Why is he doing this now, he has so many issues on his plate internationally, it is not an issue you hear the base talking about . He has long made a pledge, he said he wanted to move the embassy from tel aviv to jerusalem in his campaign. Jon sopel jerusalem in his campaign. Jon sopel. He said he wanted to recognise jerusalem as sopel. He said he wanted to recognisejerusalem as the capital of israel. A lot of people i have spoken to who have been part of the thinking process, they say he started with a very limited amount of knowledge, has been a steep climbing curve to get him to this point, but it looks like he wants to go ahead with making good on the pledge. And it is bringing an extraordinarily response back, some of which you have outlined. He spoke with the jordanian king, of which you have outlined. He spoke with thejordanian king, the speaking with thejordanians, it will undermine efforts to the Peace Process , will undermine efforts to the Peace Process, and inflaming muslims and christians alike. Saudi arabia has said it will have a detrimental effect. The arrow bleak, dangerous measure that would have repercussions. In the past, donald trump has ignored warnings like that, about america in the Climate Change deal. Will he ignore all these warnings . That is what we dont know. Who is it in america pushing him to do this . A sizeable lobby has wanted this measure to be taken back, the eight pack group, the pro israel lobby, is behind this. Apac. And many christian groups are very supportive of israel and feel it is an Important Message that must be sent, but against all that, he will be totally aware of just how many people are saying this isa just how many people are saying this is a dangerous move, the status of jerusalem, what happens after you have negotiated a settlement, not before. A man riding point on this, his son in law, Jared Kushner, a man who is not exactly steeped in Foreign Policy experience. Know, one of the more eyebrow raising things that we got to learn about when donald trump said his son in law would deliver the ultimate deal of peace in the middle east. As i say, i have heard from people who have been in conversations with him, that he is immensely charming but when questioned on the detail of middle east peace policy, he can become rather brittle and does not want to get involved in some of the detailed conversations about it. This is an immensely thorny issue that diplomats around the world and in america have been trying to deal with, ever since the formation of the state of israel in 1948 and they come back to some of the same issues every time. What happens to the us embassy . What happens to work the capital is situated . Those issues are not easy to resolve. Those are crucial issues indeed, the thoughts of our middle east correspondent now, from jerusalem, on why this is such a sensitive issue for both sides. Israel seesjerusalem as israel sees jerusalem as its israel seesjerusalem as its eternal undivided capital, it has long been a source of frustration that there is not recognition of its full is referring to over the city. Palestinians want East Jerusalem as the future independent states capital. It has been the consensus for a long time that the status of the city should be decided in a negotiated peace deal between israel and the palestinians. That there is not recognition of sovereignty. It was captured in the middle east war, annexed in a move that is not recognised internationally, so that is all the sensitivities, and at the moment, all countries that have an embassy in israel, they keep them in or close to tel aviv and have consulates injerusalem, or close to tel aviv and have consulates in jerusalem, this or close to tel aviv and have consulates injerusalem, this is a big departure by donald trump. Joining us now, dennis ross, served as middle east adviser to multiple administrations, now at the Washington Institute for international responsibility, are these mutually is elusive, advancing these mutually is elusive, advancing the Peace Process and moving the embassy to jerusalem. Not necessarily but it depends upon how it is done, if it is done as though it is done, if it is done as though it is done, if it is done as though it isa it is done, if it is done as though it is a move that will be made over time, numberone, if it is a move that will be made over time, number one, if it is done in a way that the president says clearly, this is not prejudging the final status of the city, that still must be negotiated, the ancient boundaries, palestinian claims, all that must be resolved in negotiations. If he frames the issue that way, we can manage it then. Well have to see what he says when he makes the announcement but there are concerns among palestinians that this looks like President Trump has accepted the israelis position on one of the key final status issues. There is no issue more sensitive or provocative than jerusalem. The palestinians. They cannot appear to be conceding the issue of jerusalem without ever having had a chance to, in a sense, make their case, in negotiations, ensuring their position is represented. Case, in negotiations, ensuring their position is representedlj case, in negotiations, ensuring their position is represented. I am an old cynic armour king salmon of saudi arabia, tells donald trump that transferring the us embassy to jerusalem is a dangerous step that would inflame feelings. And yet, Jared Kushner, on the ground, spent a lot of time with the crown prince, there is no way, surely, that the United States would take a decision like this without saudi arabia being involved. That is the line we get from reuters news agency. It would be shocking to say the least if the us make this decision without running it by the saudis in advance. It is quite possible that in fact, whenJared Kushner was it is quite possible that in fact, when Jared Kushner was seeing it is quite possible that in fact, whenJared Kushner was seeing the crown prince, that this issue was not joined. Crown prince, that this issue was notjoined. 0ne crown prince, that this issue was not joined. One of crown prince, that this issue was notjoined. One of the best ways crown prince, that this issue was not joined. One of the best ways to ensure that you manage this issue would have been in a sense to preview it and refute it in advance with all your arabic partners. And basically, elicit what would be their suggestions about how to frame this decision, give them time themselves to adjust to it and create a public posture on it which allows them to have an explanation. What you do not want to do with the arrogant and especially the saudis is denied them their cover on an issue that is so sensitive to them. You do not want to put them into a position where they have to walk away from us, because we will need them in any effort that is designed to break the stalemate between israelis and palestinians. We should not underestimate how dangerous this is, according to reports in the Washington Post, the word has gone out to embassies in the region that they need to increase security. Again, did not quite hear that. There are concerns in us embassies around the world about security as a response to this announcement. think that it is a prudent course of action, to put yourself in a position where you anticipate that there could be an effort by the enemies of peace to miss portray this and suggest that in fact, this is already conceding all giving the issue ofjerusalem is already conceding all giving the issue of jerusalem away, is already conceding all giving the issue ofjerusalem away, taking away from the arrows what they see as being a core interests of various. It is not surprising that some may try to foment backlash and violence against it, it is a prudent course to ensure security measures have been taken. Thank you very much for coming in. Countries around the world often say this issue is terribly important to them, as you we re terribly important to them, as you were suggesting, not always as important as they might suggest. In the course of this programme, we will talk about a couple of thorny issues, middle east Peace Process, middle east, and also ireland and the Northern Irish issue, two issues which we may have thought would have been resolved over the course of the last decade but which are still with us and still cause an enormous amount of headaches it is we only have one hour here, how long do we have. Laughter. To deal with these. Some russian athletes who can prove that they are clean will be able to appear in south korea, under a neutral flag. Thanks sponsored doping at the sochi 0lympics. Neutral flag. Thanks sponsored doping at the sochi olympics. The president of the international 0lympic committee has delivered the decision at a press conference just a short time ago. Russian Olympic Community is suspended with immediate effect. Clean russian athletes will be able to participate athletes will be able to participate at the Winter Olympics under strict conditions in 2018. These invited athletes will participate in individual or Team Competitions under the name olympic athlete from russia. They will have the acronym, oar and they will compete with a uniform bearing this name and under the olympic flag. The olympic anthem will be played in any ceremony. No official of the Russian Ministry of sport will be accredited for the olympic winter games in 2018. Im joined by a correspondent from the bbcs russia network, those who pass the drugs test, presumably, they will compete as olympic athlete from russia. How will that go down at home . It is hard to know what will happen. We are awaiting reaction from the kremlin, even though it is quite late in russia. I guess, if the decision will be taken, and there is a possibility that russia may decide to boycott the games, of course there will be a lot of pressure on individual athletes to follow that decision. Of course, at the same time, if you athletes before the decision was taken have said that they are eager and ready to compete under a neutral flag. Said that they are eager and ready to compete under a neutralflag. Did that at the world championships. Exactly, some received Harsh Criticism at home, others said they are doing the right thing, but whichever decision is going to be taken whichever decision is going to be ta ken by whichever decision is going to be taken by the kremlin, there will be a lot of pressure on each athlete. Im just reading here, from the president of the russian bobsleigh federation, he has told reuters he is shocked, Russian State Television has already said they will not show the Winter Olympics in russia. Does this kind of a ruling by the ioc to say certain amount of embarrassment, does it leads to the decision that we ought to change the way we treat athlete and the doping issue . At the moment, i would say, mostly, it produces outrage, people are furious, state television uses harsh words, describing the situation. Actually, this was the main active which was given by state television over the past few months, they have said, old allegations are no evidence behind it, all politics. They keep repeating those words. Popular opinion needs to that side rather than thinking, what would have happened, and their reaction and, at the moment, the man whose whistle blowing and, at the moment, the man whose whistle blowing taught and, at the moment, the man whose whistle blowing taught us a lot about russian doping techniques, he is called a traitor. Thank you very much forjoining us. One of the mysteries of the senate race in alabama has been why evangelicals are so keen to stick with the republican candidate roy moore. After all hes been accused by 8 women of sexually harassing them when they were teenagers, one of the women says she was just 14. So how do evangelical voters square these accusations with their own faith . Whats their argument for sticking with a candidate whos accused of molesting a child . The bbcs Barbara Plett usher has been to alabama to find out. Ona on a sunday morning in alabama, almost everyone goes to church, and more than half the States Christians are white evangelical christians, they see it as holding the line against moral decay. But, they are standing with roy moore, despite allegations of immoral behaviour. Karen is a long time supporter, the accusations of Sexual Misconduct sound to her like a political smear campaign, coming as they did one month before the senate election. I think people are trying to label him as a paedophile, that word is trying to spread like wildfire, and i do not believe it. Would you change your support for him if they turned out to be true . If there was proof. But the way you describe it. There cannot be proved. There cannot be proved, u nless proved. There cannot be proved, unless he admitted it, i guess. He certainly has not, in effect calling the victims liars, is using the pulpits to issue the denials. Lets have a word of prayer. They are not looking for proof here because hes one of their own, a champion of theirfight against one of their own, a champion of their fight against issues like abortion and sex marriage. Their fight against issues like abortion and sex marriagem their fight against issues like abortion and sex marriage. If you are going to be public in your endorsement ofjesus, expect opposition. Samesex marriage. He believes political power is needed to restore americas christian groups. We have seen this country going to the left, leaving things it never did the first 200 years of this countrys existence, a lot of thatis this countrys existence, a lot of that is fed by hollywood and things like that. Hes one of the few that i have met, that i have voted for, that you can count on, when he gets in there, that he will do what he said he would do. Roy moore has a loyal following here in said he would do. Roy moore has a loyalfollowing here in the bible belt, the reputation as a crusader for traditional values, but there are plenty in alabama who say he is not there are kind of question. A Diverse Coalition of christian leaders felt compelled to speak out in response to the evangelical support for roy moore and they are not the only ones. Colin hansen is a conservative evangelical who says he cannot conservative evangelical who says he ca n not vote conservative evangelical who says he cannot vote for either candidate. The only reason we have this conversation right now is because both candidates are extreme in one way or another. He is talking about abortion, roy moores opponent, doug jones, supports no restrictions at all. But there are also damaging combo mice is made by roy moores abortus. The real question, for evangelicals, is there any single thing that a conservative or republican candidate could do that would make you not vote for him. and i have not yet heard an answer. The election has become a showcase for the link between religion and politics and the power this has two shape washington but it has also forced a spiritual debate about the essence of christianity in americas conservative heartland. Studio mr moore is not the only us politician in the spotlight. Today the longest standing member of congress, democratjohn conyers, announced hes retiring. He is being investigated for sexual abuse, though he insists thats not why hes going. The 88 year old is a veteran of the Civil Rights Movement but now hes leaving under a cloud of suspicion and his legacy will be tainted by the manner of his departure. There have been a series of accusations against him from former staff members. David catanese reports for us news and world report and joins me now. I suppose it is no surprise that john conyers had to go, is the movement that happened in americas Corporate Society now moving into politics . Will we see politicians increasingly held to account . think so but it will be case by case, think so but it will be case by case, senator al think so but it will be case by case, senator al franken of al franken has been accused and is not stepping down. The difference has been that in corporations in the media, these guys have bosses. In politics, the only boss is the ballot box, and in the case ofjohn co nye rs, ballot box, and in the case ofjohn conyers, there was. Nantyglo see put pressure on him, and that became unsustainable for him, to stay in that seat, especially because democrats believe they can win back the house and he would be a lingering distraction if he said he was staying on. Another exception, roy moore, looks like hes getting the support notjust of the president but the Republican Party has decided to finance him again. Why have republicans who just three weeks ago were so determined to say, this guy is no good, he is a stain on the Republican Party, this is not what our values are, suddenly falling in line. Three weeks ago they use that to pressure him to get out, they said, we will not support you, if you win, we will expel you, that was supposed to be a threat to move him out but it did not work. He went underground to an extent, got away from the media, and then. Sort of distracted by all these other allegations that came on with other allegations that came on with other politicians, other men in the media full. Now the polls look better for him. The answer to your question, they think he could win and that becomes a much more difficult question, if he wins and is there, than to go through a senate and ethics investigation and expel him, they have to deal with that, it is very uncomfortable for a lot of republicans. The Senate Majority leader Mitch Mcconnell has said, if he is elected, roy moore will face a Senate Ethics investigation immediately. Colleague of hours were saying they did this with donald trump, after the access hollywood takes, there was distance, condemnation, and then they went and rallied behind him again. Absolutely, waiting it out, for the campaign of roy moore, they thought they could wait this out, if these accusations dropped yesterday or today and it would have been a week long story, then i think it is a different race and it becomes much more difficult for roy moore to make it through that storm, but because of the media cycle, because this happened three weeks ago, sad to say, attention was diverted to other things and then you had a Republican Base have problems with doug jones, more of his record got exposed, particularly on abortion, like your package pointed out. They knew it was a confluence of that. This is still a competitive race, only a couple of points, looks close, most republicans now that i speak to think why more is going to pull this out. This is from michael steele, former rnc chairman, tweet here, republican, of course, he says, or refusal to acknowledge that you have endorsed an alleged paedophile for the sake of a vote tells me roy moore will be a trump puppet. He went on to say on msnbc that they will pay a price for this, the republicans, that the democrats will explore what they have done in alabama. Yes, that is true, i have seen press releases alabama. Yes, that is true, i have seen press releases from state democratic parties around the country asking republican candidates, do you stand with roy moore or do you stand with Mitch Mcconnell . That will be a question that i think democrats opposed to every republican, but i also think, if he wins, you will have some republican voices saying he needs to be expelled, the chairman of the National Republican committee, called for his expulsion, if he won the seat, i asked his office twice yesterday, does he stand by that statement . They did not get back to me. Some of these republicans will be pressured if roy moore is seeded, to move on with the investigation and move to expel him. Thank you very much forjoining us, so interesting. On the eurostar back from brussels today, i have been following your tweets, all of the tweets of our colleagues, and i have also been reading bbc online. I have picked up something that relates to what you have been talking about, and it is about the fear that women who were coming forward now have about a backlash. You can tell that i have been on the eurostar. Tell us what you think is happening. I have been on the eurostar. Tell us what you think is happeningm i have been on the eurostar. Tell us what you think is happening. It is interesting, quite a controversial issue to even raise, christian, surprisingly so, women do not want to look like they are appeasing harassers in this particular moment but there is a fear of a backlash and afear but there is a fear of a backlash and a fear that full is accuses will be publicised and that could undermine all the other women who come out with allegations. We saw that with the Washington Post story a couple of weeks ago. Also a fear that corporations and mail bosses could stop helping women in the workplace, they may want to stop having meetings alone with them or dinners alone or stop inviting them to meetings, i have already heard Corporate Executives say this, frankie, itll be to employ a man, hirea man, frankie, itll be to employ a man, hire a man, than a young woman. That would mean that women in the workforce would be at a disadvantage and the last thing we want is for women to be hurt by the movement. There is concern that there will be a backlash against. You think the very weight of harmony women are involved at the moment could eventually get men saying, well. Men have said to me, i am sure you have heard this, goodness, i cannot say you look good, i cannot come in your appearance, otherwise i will be done for harassment. Being said in a jokey way but the fear is that tends to present if there is a sense of overreach, if men feel they are condemned just because they are men, that could come back to her women. Lets move way up to space laughter as fresh a perspective is possible on this programme. Christian loves space stories, this is something just for him. These series of photos were taken from the International Space station and show the northwest corner of australia. The images were actually stitched together into a time lapse video. They show the inland areas near port hedland and broome, before heading towards south australia. The pictures were taken by the italian astronaut, paulo nespoli. Here he is in the middle. Over the weekend he was missing italian food so much that nasa sent up the ingredients for a pizza party. Quite literally out of this world. You know how eet ees, when you are away from mama. Laughter. Must be the most inventive beliefs Pizza Delivery Service in the history of the world most expensive Pizza Delivery Service. Having been the italian, i think you need to spend the doe. Maybe that is what you need to do, going into zero gravity this is beyond 100 days from the bbc. Coming up for viewers on the bbc news channel and bbc world news, will there be more handshakes by the end of the week . Can the british Prime Ministerfind a brexit deal and one that will satisfy the eu and her Northern Ireland partners . And white house harmonies, the music thats defined the american presidency. Looking forward to that. Another rather grey but mild day for many of us, here is one of the weather watcher pictures pretty quiet, that is not going to last, the reason the swell of cloud in the atlantic is the next named storm on the horizon, storm caroline, west effects of which will be felt in northern scotland on thursday, we will get to that in a moment. Overnight, turning breezy across the uk, quite windy in north west scotland, wet throughout the night. Patchy light rain and drizzle, wales, western england. Away from north west scotland, places will be dry and cloudy, there isa places will be dry and cloudy, there is a flow of mild air coming in from the south south west. For wednesday, much of england and wales will stay dry, patchy drizzle perhaps over the week hills, writer breaks to the east, for Northern Ireland and into scotland, outbreaks of rain, some spots, eastern scotland, especially moray and aberdeenshire, should stay dry. Maybe 13, 14 celsius. Wind freshening all the while, gales developing, going into wednesday evening and wednesday night. Worse to come coming in for thursday. Storm caroline passes to the north. Closer to the centre of the low pressure, a stronger wind, repeatedly across northern scotland, where we will probably see gusts around 80 mph. Some pretty strong gusts can be felt elsewhere in scotland, parts of Northern Ireland and northern england. We will keep you updated. All the while, we will see it turning colderfrom you updated. All the while, we will see it turning colder from the north, with a band of school e rain pushing its way through, showers turning increasingly wintry in the cold air, all the way from the arctic as storm caroline moves away. Cold air plunging south across the uk, thursday night, into friday, we will see some snow showers around, particularly across northern and western parts of the uk. I see in places as friday begins. Blizzards into highland scotland. Icy places. Sunshine to come, will not do much for the temperature. With a band of squally rain. We have storm caroline on the way, wet and windy weather around. Particularly in scotland. Snow and ice there in the week. This is beyond one hundred days, with me katty kay in washington Christian Frasers in london. Our top stories. The palestinian, egyptian and jordanian leaders are warning President Trump that moving the us embassy tojerusalem would damage russia is banned from the Winter Olympics but denies any wrongdoing. The us special counsel, robert mueller, is reported to have asked Germanys Deutsche Bank to provide information on accounts held by President Trump and his family. Coming up in the next half hour. Can a president of the United States even be tried for obstruction ofjustice . The white house lawyer has sparked quite a debate. Billy bush lost his job after the infamous access Hollywood Tape with donald trump. Now hes speaking out on the president s comments. Let us know your thoughts by using the hashtag beyond one hundred days. Special prosecutor bob mueller has subpoenaed Deutsche Bank for information on accounts held by donald trump and his family. Deutsche bank is trumps biggest lender and it does a lot of business in russia. There is some argument that the president is not subject to indictment while still in office. I think it is clear that the president can commita think it is clear that the president can commit a federal crime just like any other citizen in this country. Well this is as much of a political process as a criminal process and in the case of watergate the Republican Party was prepared to go against its own president. This is the ultimate distinction between the impeachment process , distinction between the impeachment process, which is in the hands of the congress, and the criminal justice process which is in the hands of professional prosecutors. Ultimately president nixon, the republican support he had in the house of representatives evaporated when he was required to turn over the damning tapes that showed that he was up to his armpits in a conspiracy to obstruct justice. He was up to his armpits in a conspiracy to obstructjustice. The same might be true with respect to President Trump because he still has more oil republicans in the house of representatives who might shield him from the consequences of any misconduct he is found to have engaged in and i think the key to this is what mueller decides to do with the evidence he has. We had Michael Moore on yesterday and he described mueller is the kung fu master of prosecutions, he knows how to apply pressure and when. So at the beginning of his investigation he seems to have focused on the periphery and now he is going after the money, looking at Deutsche Bank. What is the president going to do about that . I think the president has said that could be a red line and that might be perhaps the strongest demonstration of the president being worried about what mueller could find in probing the Financial Relationships that connecting craps through Deutsche Bank to some of the russian oligarchs. I think perhaps that is what i would call the consciousness of guilt and normally in this line of guilt and normally in this line of work you find the more someone complains about a line of investigation but more likely it is that there is something a person does not want to be uncovered. Where does not want to be uncovered. Where do you stand on the tweet he sent out at the weekend pretty much accepting that he knew that general flynn had lied to the fbi, do you think that in itself has implications for the president in terms of obstruction ofjustice . think it does and the president is his own worst enemy, in the Washington Post a couple of months ago after his first week in which he admitted the reason he had fired james comey was he wanted to bring an end to the russian investigation, now he has apparently admitted he knew that his National Security adviser mike flynn had committed a federal felony lying to the fbi before the president asked james comey to give mike flynn a pass and that the president then fired james comey when he refused to professes loyalty a nd comey when he refused to professes loyalty and to yield to the president and his encouragement to drop the case. I think this latest one makes the case of obstruction of justice that much more clear and compelling. And i would think under normal standards the president would be injeopardy. Obviously normal standards the president would be in jeopardy. Obviously youre normal standards the president would be injeopardy. Obviously youre not inside the country investigation but you know how they work, and im sure that you could read the legal team leaves, how serious doesnt look to you for the president from a criminal charges point of view at the moment . Forgetting the politics for the moment. Well one element is did his conduct run foul of the elements of the criminal federal statutes specifically. I think the evidence we now have suggested he did. The second question is whether as his lawyers say the president really cannot commit a crime, because hes the chief executive of the country, i think that is nothing short of nonsensical. As was established in the nixon tapes case, the president as everyone else is subject to the law. The trickiest question is whether the president may be indicted and charged with a crime while still in office. As opposed to having to wait until he has left office. I think that is where the rubber meets the road. My own view is that a president is subject to indictment while still in office and that is separate from the impeachment process. No doubt we will be returning to this. Thank you. Well if you look at the last ten days it has been a pretty good ten days it has been a pretty good ten days it has been a pretty good ten days for the president , tax reforms have got to the Committee Stage and into the senate and then what else, Something Else as well. The Supreme Court yesterday upheld his ban on visas for muslim countries. It looks like the tax reform bill will pass. You could make a strong case that were closing year on a high for the president. Roy moore may get elected so they hold the Senate Majority, more good news for him. I should point out though we have had recent polling in the last few days and his approval ratings, which were around the summer around 38 , have slipped around 34 . So those numbers not do any better at the moment. Theresa may is under growing pressure to find a way forward after brexit talks broke down on monday over the future of Northern Irelands border with the republic. A deal on this first phase of negotiations has to be in place before next weeks summit so talks can move on to trade. The uk Opposition Labour Party has called theresa mays efforts an embarrassment. Now, former tory leader Iain Duncan Smith says its nearly time to walk away from the talks altogether as our Political Editor Laura Kuenssberg reports. You can shake hands as much as you like. Are you confident of a deal . But it does not mean there will be a deal, the spanish leader one of dozens she has to get onside. There are a couple of issues we need to work on, but i will be reconvening in brussels later this week. It is this band she needs right now, the dups ten mps, feeling their power in every step. They refused to back theresa mays deal in brussels over ireland border which they fear will put Northern Ireland on a different path to the rest of the uk. The text we were shown late yesterday did not translate what we had been told in general conversations into reality. Would you be willing to see the deal fail . We do not want to see the talks fail and we do not want to see no deal, we want a sensible brexit. Yesterdays collapse provoked arguments on all sides with some believing scotland, wales and some sectors of the economy should get special status but in dublin a clear message, no budging, clinging to the agreement that the north and south mirror each others regulations. The ball is in londons court, the Prime Minister and the European Commission and negotiating teams have asked for more time. Number 10 believes it could be back on by the end of the week, sorted by christmas. But the failure yesterday meant a barrage of attacks in the commons. What an embarrassment. If the price of the Prime Ministers approach is the break up of the union and reopening of bitter divides in Northern Ireland the price is too high. The suggestion we might depart the European Union but leave one part of the uk inside the Single Market and Customs Union is emphatically not something the uk government is considering. But there is no agreement in cabinet about what happens next. A former leader telling the bbc it might be time to walk away. It is a game played out over power and the answer boils down to who will call the shots on this . Right now, we have to say not good enough, we cannot pay this price. You are saying to brussels, back off, or we will walk . The statement is more straightforward, you need to change this process and to back off, otherwise we get on with other arrangements. The Prime Minister and dup are yet to talk directly today. Theresa may is not in total control of her relationships with friends or rivals. We have been speaking to lord trimble, former first minister of Northern Ireland and one of the architects of the good friday agreement. I asked him why the language in yesterdays document outlining a deal on the border, had been so important . The Irish Government behaved yesterday and as i understood today as if what was being discussed was something that was going to have the regulatory arrangements common to Northern Ireland, republic of ireland into the future and that is not the position of the British Government as i understand it. I understand this regulatory alignment is only going to apply to existing cooperative arrangements and not any future ones and does not have general application. A hugely different position. And it is that difference that causes the problem because the irish brief, the journalists who came away with the briefing saying that this was going to apply generally and that caused huge difficulties for the dup. Some people would say this is pretty great stuff, regulatory alignment, what does mean but it is fundamental to what brexit is all about because the brexiteers here in london have not yet had a conversation within cabinet about what kind of brexit we will have, what kind of future trading relationship we will have. So if you set the terms for Northern Ireland before knowing whether rest of the uk is going, youre asking the dup to take an extraordinary lea p the dup to take an extraordinary leap into the dark. Youre asking the British Government then to agree to something before they have reached negotiations, this goes back to something which we should perhaps have been firmer with the beginning because the eu proposals as to how the negotiations would proceed were not terribly good. And the huge mistake was to put negotiations on the future trading relationship right at the end of the queue where it should have been right at the front of the queue because it is the big issue. And the other issue of how to deal with the irish border is secondary because until we know what the trading arrangements are, whether there will still be terrorists and the nature of those tariffs, whether they will be other provisions, the cynic would say this was done by the European Commission to put maximum pressure on the British Government. That is not a sensible way to proceed. That has contributed to the present difficulties. It is almost 20 years since you helped negotiate the good friday agreement. This issue of the border, as raising tensions between nationalists and unionists and dublin, perhaps not surprising to you but i wonder if you think there isa you but i wonder if you think there is a border solution that would satisfy all the parties involved. We could wrap it up as soon a know the briefing so that to as early as to that early as to had that earlyas you, to had that earlyea you, or dup 1 eu for nine, brussels s. And she left time, and she left after her meeting with donald tusk around that time. So she had been in discussions for about eight hours. And they were not able to find a way through. Im sure theyve had conversations today with theyve had conversations today with the dup. The thing this tells us, she sets her horizons by the end of the week, not looking at the future of the trade relationship at the moment but looking step by step. How to get to the next phase. Exactly and she has to keep all these different groups onside, the eu commission, the dup, her backbenchers and cabinet and so up until now she has had no substance of discussion within cabinet about what the future looks like and not difficult to see why. And the issue of language, it is fundamental because whether the rules state aligned, running on twin tracks if you will, or whether they do not diverge, that is absolutely fundamental to what brexit is going to be about. And we have not even have that discussion within the uk yet so i do not know how you can set the rules for the dup in Northern Ireland if you do not know where the rest of the uk is going. And the clock is ticking. Some breaking news coming in about a german train, a passenger train that has run into a Freight Train crusted dusseldorf. German police saying 50 people may have been injured in that train crash. That is the first we are hearing about it. Train colliding a Freight Train crusted dusseldorf. We will bring you more detail as we get it. Spains Supreme Court has withdrawn a european arrest warrant for the sacked catalan regional leader, Carles Puigdemont who fled to belgium. Mr puigdemont and four former ministers are wanted in spain on charges of inciting a rebellion. Two wildfires in ventura county, on the outskirts of los angeles, are threatening three cities in southern california. At least 150 buildings north of la, including a psychiatric hospital, have already been destroyed. And another quarter of a million homes are without power. The former georgian president Mikheil Saakashvili has been freed by his supporters, shortly after being arrested in ukraine. There were chaotic scenes in the capital kiev in the moments after his arrest. Mr saakashvili repeated calls for ukraines parliament to impeach president petro poroshenko. This is beyond one hundred days. Still to come. White house harmony the sounds through the centuries that we associate with the american presidency. Here in the uk, treating type two diabetes costs the nhs billions of pounds a year and can lead to serious complications for the patients. The condition is normally controlled with medication but a new trial carried out in newcastle and glasgow has shown that it can be reversed through dieting and weight loss. Our Health Correspondent James Gallagher reports. Isobel murray thought she was facing a lifetime of type 2 diabetes, but shes lost more than four stone on the trial and has now completely changed her relationship with food. Her disease is in remission. Its freedom to live your life again and know that youre not in that cycle any more and know that i can control this, and i will never go there again. She spent 17 weeks drinking these. They re nutritionally balanced soups and shakes to help trigger weight loss. And thats it, theres 200 calories in a glass and youre allowed four of them every day. Thats just sweet, really, but thats your lot, for up to five months. The pancreas is critical in type 2 diabetes. If excess body fat is stored around the organ, then it reduces the production of the hormone insulin. That leads to levels of sugar in the blood getting dangerously out of control. Losing weight makes the fat cells disappear and the pancreas work properly again. Doctors say 46 of patients on the trial put their type 2 into remission. We now have clear evidence that weight loss of 10 or 15 kilograms is enough to turn this disease around. Its hugely exciting that we can do that in routine practice, with ordinary nurses, ordinary dieticians, ordinary gps and ordinary patients. I dont feel like a diabetic because i dont think about it any more. Ive got my life back. She says if she can beat type 2, then anyone can. James gallagher, bbc news. Billy bush has again reiterated the authenticity of the leaked access Hollywood Tape, in which President Trump is heard to make crude comments about women. The tv host who was with mr trump at the time said there was no doubt over his remarks. Take a look at this. Last week for some reason he came out with that is not my voice on the tape. You cannot say that, i was there, you were there, that is your voice on the tape. 20 women do not get together and say it would be fun to ta ke get together and say it would be fun to take down a powerful guide together. I said ok, youre reopening wounds, enough is enough, stop playing around with up that upset him. With peoples lives. Billy bush was fired by nbc news after the tape came out because they felt he had been enabling the president in the commons that he was making. There is some speculation that all the things billy bush is doing at the moment, he has exposed a lot of these Sexual Harassment cases in the new yorker magazine, some kind of retrospective rehabilitation going on on his part is the allegation. Whether it is hail to the chief or a current day tune music has always played an Important Role at the white house. It can be heard accompanying Historic Events and even offering a soundtrack to diplomacy. Now a new book is looking at the role music has played during each president s time in office and how it has developed over the centuries. Jane obrien has gone to meet some of those behind the instruments. Founded by an act of congress signed by president john adams in 1798 the United States marine band has provided music for the white house and the president ever since. provided music for the white house and the president ever since. I feel the weight of history every day, when you set foot inside the executive office and have the responsibility to set the tone for whatever event is happening at that time is exhilarating. There is a sense of electricity inside the white house and many times that is driven by music. Music at the white house, the title of subject of a new book, it is shaped by more than two centuries of tradition and the personal taste of the president s. Thomas jefferson played personal taste of the president s. Thomasjefferson played violin, John Quincy Adams played the flute, many president s have played the piano from truman and nixon, a wonderful story of Richard Nixon playing the piano and we all know of bill clinton and the saxophone. Early performances took place behind closed doors but in recent decades technology has ensured that the white house is indeed the american stage. President harry truman demonstrated his musical skills in a televised tour of the white house. The arts were heavily promoted under president john f. Kennedy. But it was Ronald Reagan who began regular televised performances in the 1980s. And at times music has made history, not merely accompanied it. In 1985 Prince Charles and Princess Diana had taken the city by storm sojohn travolta wanted to dance with Princess Diana but did not know the protocol. He was assured it would be fine and then we have that Beautiful Image of them dancing in the grand foyer of the white house and the picture went across the globe. As American Music evolved from its european routes so to have the range of performances, the marine band, the oldest continuing music group in the oldest continuing music group in the us, has more often than not provided the soundtrack of diplomacy. Good to see bill clinton theyre playing his saxophone. I can also play and a bit of a tingle on the ivories i guess you could bring those in if you really wanted to. What about donald trump . I do not think he plays but it is amazing, eisenhower, clinton, adams, all played musical instruments. Perhaps a reflection of a different era where everyone played a musical instrument. If you do not have fox news, you have to do something lets move on. Coming up next on bbc world news ros atkins is here with outside source and for viewers in the uk well have the latest headlines from sean ley. For now from katty kay in washington and me Christian Fraser in london goodbye. I will be in los angeles tomorrow. I willjoin you from there. Another rather grey but mild day for many of us, here is one of the weather watcher pictures pretty quiet, that is not going to last, the reason the swell of cloud in the atlantic is the next named storm on the horizon, storm caroline, worst effects of which will be felt in northern scotland on thursday, we will get to that in a moment. Overnight, turning breezy across the uk, quite windy in north west scotland, wet throughout the night. Patchy light rain and drizzle, wales, western england. Away from north west scotland, places will be dry and cloudy, there is a flow of mild air coming in from the south south west. For wednesday, much of england and wales will stay dry, patchy drizzle perhaps over the hills, brighter breaks to the east, for Northern Ireland and into scotland, outbreaks of rain, some spots, eastern scotland, especially moray and aberdeenshire, should stay dry. Maybe 13, 14 celsius. Wind freshening all the while, gales developing, going into wednesday evening and wednesday night. Worse to come for thursday. Storm caroline passes to the north. Closer to the centre of the low pressure, a stronger wind across northern scotland, where we will probably see gusts around 80 mph. Some pretty strong gusts can be felt elsewhere in scotland, parts of Northern Ireland and northern england. We will keep you updated. All the while, we will see it turning colderfrom the north, with a band of rain pushing its way through, showers turning increasingly wintry in the cold air, all the way from the arctic as storm caroline moves away. Cold air plunging south across the uk, thursday night, into friday, we will see some snow showers around, particularly across northern and western parts of the uk. Icy in places as friday begins. Blizzards into highland scotland. Sunshine to come, will not do much for the temperature. We have storm caroline on the way, wet and windy weather around. Particularly in scotland. Snow and ice then to end the week. This is bbc news, im shaun ley. The headlines at 8pm an official review into the Manchester Arena bombing concludes that its possible the attack could have been prevented. Its been revealed that m i 5 had received information about the bomber. Having received that intelligence, m15 should have opened an investigation, and who knows what that investigation would have found. Fact is. They didnt. As theresa may tries to rescue a brexit deal a former conservative leader tells bbc news the uk should walk away if the eu doesnt change its negotiating stance. You need to change this process, and to back off. Otherwise we get on with other arrangements. A campaigner goes undercover posing as a fourteen year old to highlight the threat to children from internet streaming sites. Im shaun ley, and in the next hour. Russian athletes wont be taking to the ice in pyeongchang