Hello, and welcome to the program. Im joe know how the u. S. President has made his case for another 4 years in the white house to the state of the Union Address that sounded more like a campaign speech. Joe biden, talented his achievements and took a but his republican rival, donald trump, will polls of predicting a close race for the election in november and bite. And well have to work hard to convince undecided voters, hell also have to overcome divisions within the democratic party, over his support for israel. And its war on gaza. So is he doing enough to we know that voters so far and will pro palestine democrats make a difference at the ballot box . Well go to our panel of guests and just a moment. The 1st print to monahan has this report as the go button would be election mode for the state of the union speech path lines already being thrown for his re election in november. And he repeatedly took a mcdonald from the republican, almost certain to again, because the opponent will never mentioning trump by name to speak to the tax on his predecessor president , my predecessor fail the most basic president ial duty videos to American People the duty to care by didnt tower, the economy as one of his biggest achievements the inflation rate is pulling over the past year. And a widely anticipated recession appears to have been avoided. It doesnt make no, but the news in a 1000 cities and towns the American People are writing the greatest come back story. Never told the president also being the wedge issues, such as abortion, rights and immigration. But he believes will make all the difference in november. Again about our turn, the road. We right have no clue about the power went in. But i found out we, reproductive freedom was on the ballad. We want 220222200. And we went again and 2024 for the head of a reminder of another challenge facing findings. Hopes of returning to the white house pro palestine protests with both roads and forces motorcade to change its. We kept the president support for israel at square on gaza as alienated many in his own base. The state of the union was an opportunity to win some of the facts biden, to avoid the direct criticism of israel, but underlined the need for 2 state solution and his own efforts to make a cease fire happen. All americans use of laid out a plan for deliveries of food aid and humanitarian supplies by see by building a temporary port on the gauze, a coast on its way to. I made a direct appeal to israels leaders. Mandatory and assistants can not be a secondary consideration or bargaining to protect it and saving it as a minus has to be for wherever United States for fighting speech can the standing ovation from democrats, supporters and congress. But it remains to be seen if you can convince undecided voters or few of the divisions and his own party overcome. Vince bowman held a 0 for inside story. The thats breaking out guess now in washington d. C, a nation bond, t is the Communications Director of gen zed for change. Its a collective of gens, that activists to leverage the power of social media to drive progressive change tens. That is the name given to people born off to the mid 19 ninetys whose identity has been shaped by the digital age and from a studio in london to the norman is associate professor and politics and International Relations at the University University college london. Also in the us capital, steve home and these force of americas chief National Correspondence and those covered both of the trump and binding with ministration. Its great to have you will with us here on inside story. So less a traditional state of the Union Address more also to stay to the Election Campaign if you like, and a demonstration of the power of the incumbent to be able to do that on a platform like this, steve. And let me begin with you. Broadly speaking, do you think joe biden did enough to prevent present a vision of a 2nd to him in office that remains to be seen. We wont know the answer of that, of course, until november, 8 months away. What he did do is he stood up there for 66 minutes. Uh, there were no major stumbles. That certainly may have convinced some of those sitting on the fence about whether biden is up for another or 4 years as president. So definitely a success and his people at the white house and in the bite and campaign are certainly presenting it as such. A nice age of cost, stephen touchstone, is that the ever present elephant in the room as it will be throughout this Election Campaign . The joe biden, 81 years old, donald trump, just for years his junior was there enough here to sort of energize an interest young people and get them to come out to vote. And while were on it, i mean how the young people even begin to engage with the vision of an up to generic presence. Ibm of the day this president did do a good job of, you know, the seeming younger in his language, having a more aggressive tone in his state of the union speech. But at the end of the day, it comes down to the age of his ideas. Thats what young people care about. You know, the, the, the style doesnt matter as much as the substance of what the present is talking about in his speech. And i think that young people care about issues from a ceasefire and gaza to a bold action on Climate Change and other issues that he didnt necessarily fully address in his speech. But that i do think will become the deciding factor in the selection given how many young people i think over 41000000, jens, the voters will be eligible to vote in this election. And if he wants to galvanized that support, especially when young people give him a his 2020 when and i think he needs to address the issues that young people care about and have a vision that, that meets the concerns that we all have. But its interesting, you draw that distinction he, he made the distinction himself didnt the attempting to paint . Trump is the one with the old ideas. Take revenge retribution. He said with the oldest ideas of all, but he hasnt picked, hasnt picked your books anyway on that to the norm. And lets move on americas place in the world and americas challenges and how him he attempted to address both of those things and to draw, as i said, the distinction is narrative very much that he outcomes trump on both of those. But especially essentially on Foreign Policy. One big question is, do not see americans a care enough about Foreign Policy for that to be able to be a decisive factor in the election. Yeah, you know, usually americans do not prioritize Foreign Policy in their voting. Theyre usually much more focused on domestic issues. Like the economy this year, like abortion, immigration, etc. And i do think that will still be the case for most voters this year in 2024 or. But with that said, there are 2 big crisis is on our radar right now. Of course with the war and ukraine continuing, and of course the war and gaza continuing. And as a nation mentioned, um, many young people in particular, many progressives are especially passionate about the war on gaza. So there has been a real um, pushed, i would say for the white house to be able to deliver messages across the part in how theyre going to address that specifically. And again, contingent on the war and ukraine. So there people are paying more attention than i think they might in some other election years. A nice theres something in that isnt that for, for young people, for jens, that does i mean in terms of the war on gaza in terms of helping you try and fight russia, this is something they care about. At least the electricity engaged gens that is right. I mean, one thing thats kind of you need to are generated near to previous generations is our ability to see directly whats happening through social media. And to kind of be interconnected in a way that previous the global conflicts didnt have that same audience, you know, were seeing um, but its come directly from the, on the ground with both some done as a. And so i think that that is given young people a lot more energy and a lot more knowledge and, and weve called a bit of a lot more insight into whats going on in the world. And i think that affects our approach to the candidates that we want to support in 2024 election. I think young people kind of have a strong sense of justice and are a lot more educated. Brings to this interconnectivity in our ability to see whats going on in the world. And so i think that would seem directly whats going on in the ground and hearing from, you know, relatives, friends, family or even just folks on social media that whats going on in gaza has, has galvanized young people to, um, you know, take to the streets. You know, we saw that protesters actually delayed the president s speech last night because they, they blocked the route up for him to get to the capital for the state of the union. Steven, let me bring you in on, on the question of gaza because it was an issue. A very significant issue in that speech last night and gaza has become a real news around the president s neck. Hasnt that he steadfastly refuses to criticize israel and Prime Minister netanyahu he refuses to call for an outright seas fine. Now theres this idea of a, of a p, a, a port to be built of the gauze coast, and a maritime passage way from cypress. What i wonder is, does that carry the risk of essentially increasing screwed today and criticism of president bible because its simply exposes his weakness in the face of Prime Minister this and you know, who is at his abject failure and convincing him to allow aiding on the ground and long before now the president politically here in the United States is walking a fine line. Theres been, as youve noted this immense pressure coming from the progressives, also one i on michigan where theres a significant palestinian, an arab american know boating community. And they could be critical because michigan is a swing state and whoever wins michigan probably will when the election. But if were looking at more conservative swing states, such as wisconsin, perhaps pennsylvania, arizona, nevada, the president , according to the political pundents, needs to be very careful. Because if hes seen as anti israel, that could cause some of these independent and more conservative boulders supporters of israel. Perhaps a mom might not vote for donald trump, but they might stay at home, or they might put in uh, a boat for a 3rd Party Candidate in any states like michigan where it could be just a few 1000 boats that makes a difference and decides who is the next president , a fight in the, in his campaign are being very cautious to new orleans, staying with international politics. As we mentioned by the positioning himself very much against trump on this idea of being the man to save democracy and freedom at home and abroad. Has he done enough, do you think and ill talk about the domestic picture in a moment. But has he done enough to think in convincing people that trump presents a real risk abroad in terms of falling down to uprooting . He said in terms of encouraging pollutant to do whatever he likes to nathan members who dont pay the dues. Im contrasting that with a strongly enough vision of bible as the man, as he said, what bowed down to put to yeah, well biting that has always tried to, i think, sprained his Foreign Policy in this image of democracy. And in this election year, well see him really trying to contrast that as much as possible with trump and underscoring how trump is this threat to democracy at home and abroad. So i think that messaging will continue. I think where he was trying to show that start this contract was of course, around the war and ukraine and more over or through im terms approach to nato. Of course, the alliance that has really revitalized itself around that ukraine war has really shown why its, its dispensable, indispensable, and bite. And i think really being a large part of pushing that unity forward. Obviously weve heard very different comments from trunk and recent recent weeks as well as from his 1st term and office. And i do think this is where the 2 candidates will differ significantly on. Foreign policy is if they are going to approach a more Multi Lateral alliance friendly way of doing International Relations, or one that is much more isolationist than america 1st. So that goes even beyond specific issues and is really a way of approaching International Relations and diplomacy that is very much on the ballot. Could there be more, do you think of the other spheres of interest, particularly, Asian Pacific china . Absolutely. I would say, even though china did not get much attention last night in the state of the union, it remains the administrations pretty much primary challenge for long term Foreign Policy. And its where a lot of the emphasis is being placed. With that said both biden and trump have a tough on china approach if you will. But i do think they differ in substance and style with that obviously. Um trump, we hear a bit more on a very different kind of rhetoric, a different kind of language around china. The vitamin ministration in the last year has really tried to get diplomacy back on track. And even the way they approach china and trump had more of the trade war, the tariffs many of those buys and has kept in place, but has tried to couple that with on working with allies working around the region to try and kind of diversify supply chains im and have a bit more of a different kind of Foreign Policy approach than just a bluster which we often hear from trump student domestically. So theres this core appeal in the speech and that to the so that pro choice vote. He promises he will reenact roe v wade as the law of the land, essentially make abortions legal again. And then there are these reminders about what hes been able to achieve in office, in his 1st term on inflation of jobs on infrastructure. But it strikes me, there are 2 key problems here. One is that in order to do anything like rosie wade, hes got to have control of both houses. That means winning big. And thats not looking like a lot of it is 5 percent Percentage Points behind the poles. And the 2nd is that on his domestic achievements on the economy, Many Americans dont even notice them. They simply dont feel better off. Thats right. Uh, the Economic Indicators dont seem to be converting into lessening the pain for americans when it comes to what theyre paying at the gas pumps. The price of eggs, the price of middle of the price of bread, those sort of things. And usually it is the pocket book issues which are defining. But as julie mentioned, we have these critical Foreign Policy issues, especially israel, gaza and ukraine. Russia and people really are as been noted on this program, are paying attention to that. And it may sway some voters as far as the talk about abortion. Youre right, and lets see controls of both houses of congress. Theres not much job, hes going to be able to do outside of executive borders, which both trump and he have been aggressive on a but what it really boils down to is the state of the union, or theres a lot of rhetoric. Theres a lot of promises and on the campaign trail, a lot of rhetoric, a lot of promises to convince the voters that even if you really cant do anything about it, hes on their side and a staying with the domestic pitch here. If you like this thought a great deal in what bite and his offering here that takes the boxes of young people. Hes talking about a bush, medicare, the cost of prescription drugs. Its all kind of middle class for want of a better description. Now im not suggesting he should come out here and declare himself a swifty. As i know you. Uh, for instance, though, i better care for our inducement, but what more does he need to be doing to tap into other groups . Minority groups, not just the but i think that youre right um with the fact that i cannot make accomplishments arent necessarily translating. And thats because for young voters, a look at the issues that matter. Housing is becoming more and more unavoidable. Economic justice is so far from reality and we dont have a fair tax code. Were seeing economic disparity between the rich us americans and the working boss grow. And, and, and you know, like a gen z is coming into an economy that doesnt necessarily work for young people, for minorities, etc. And so i think that 1st of all, i know you all mentioned it does come to a wedding day because he doesnt need a house and sent it to deliver on some of these things. But that comes with delivering the board agenda that allows him to show accomplishments that will translate into downtown electoral success in november. And by delivering on a bullet agenda that Young People Working costs, voters, minorities, and those affected by issues the most actually see the progress on that translates into, you know, border enthusiasm that will result in turn out in november incentive elections in house elections. And even at the state level. And so i think that actually addressing the concerns that young people base, whether it be you know, passing the quality at if hes able to, whether it comes to delivering on executive actions that will make Affordable Housing reality. Whether it comes to executive action on climate, which is one of the biggest concerns for our generation. You know, the Climate Crisis is ever worsening. And you know, while we appreciate the president s commitment to, for example, the american climate court, which will also be an, a Economic Justice issue for young people and create thousands of contain jobs. So we need to take things a step further and you know, thats why i youth group slaves and see for change are calling on residents to um, uh, deliver on uh, you know, uh, reaching net 0 by 2035. I think that these goals are necessary not just uh for getting our support in, in november, but also for, you know, a Sustainable Future for our, for our generation, for our planet. And for our country, things like climate really were pretty much skipped when i, in that speech, i mean it is alienating, is that it does feel like an elderly man who is somehow beyond and above these, every day issues working people, it has nothing to do with his age and so you know, it really comes down to the age of his ideas and you know, of young people have laid out exactly what we want. And its evident in the polling. You know, even going back to point issues over 60 percent of voters do want to see a ceasefire and thats overwhelming with young voters. And so to be able to say, galvanized to our support and actually bring young people out in november, he just needs to deliver on these things that again, the majority of americans and the overwhelming majority of young people to support. Okay, well look, lets begin to draw our discussion in a bit now, and im looking for a final bit of input from each of you and stephen not to hop on unnecessarily about age here, but look 73 percent of americans think hes simply too old. It is a massive issue in that performance. The state of the Union Address, he was self deprecating about age was neat, he didnt make any well, many of the gaps. There was a bit of banter, a bit of to and fro with hecklers republican hecklers on the floor. Did he defy his critics to think Stephen Hammond . Yes, i think if you listen day to day to right wing media in this country, they would paint a picture as a joe biden as a feeble demented scene i on. And that was clearly demonstrated last night that he was not in any of those things. The bar was low, perhaps for him, but he went over that bar last night and what were going to see in the months ahead, people are going to continue to scrutinize joe biden, what they will also scrutinize donald trump. And even some of his supporters have concerns about him mistaking names and speeches and regard blake words and things like that. So this is going to be something watched very closely in the minds so that not only jo bidens fitness for the job. But Donald Trumps as well, niece is a jens at the after all of this is said and done. And were talking as a reminder about people in this would have mid thirtys now, which is a gen, said the, the slated by the performance to come out. Actual and to come out and vote for. But again, i think there had been tangible accomplishments from the administration that young people, young organizers, inactive se from the creation of an office of gun violence prevention in the white house. And the creation of the american climate courts. But there are significant issues that need to be addressed both abroad and domestically, from advocating for a ceasefire and a permanent last thing ceasefire and god. As well as domestically when it comes to tackling Economic Justice, deliberating on Climate Change and Climate Justice and addressing uh, economic, a quality break generation that is coming into a very um, a on equitable world when it comes to housing. When it comes to the job market, when it comes to Economic Freedom and ability for young people to move out of their house after graduating college. When it comes to knowing whether or not were going to have a planet that we could living in the future because of course, the Climate Crisis. And i think that again, weve laid out our vision. Young people know exactly what they want and its up to the president s to actually deliver on those. Um, you know, on a bold agenda like he promised in 2020. And i truly believe that if he does, the young people will come out for the president. But its completely in his hands to the new woman, does ukraine feel reassured off to that speech to people in gaza feel . Reassured to the United States nato allies feel reassured by that speech . I think it was certainly a messaging to for an offices as well as to domestic. And i would say bidens comments, especially on new crane and nato. I think problem we spoke well to allies with that said when it actually comes down to the aid that the us may or may not be able to provide. Thats a different question and our allies know that thats very up in the air right now, and not biding very well, may not be able to deliver on, not even before the election, much less after. And that reality is, is they are behind this right, right. However, for im comfort and she tried to make it and gaza is i think, given trickier. Um, this is a issue where the administration right now is trying to find the middle road. Theyre speaking out on humanitarian aid. Theyre, you know, authorizing the port and whatnot. But at the same time, they are also still on sending weapons to israel. They are also stole and facilitating the conflict in other ways. And thats at least the way its perceived in the region. And i think the us has lost a lot of credibility in the region because of the, the early actions around gaza. So i think guys is going to be difficult for biden to make up the grounds, but well see where they can do in this next stage. And if the even temporary spire gets through, but again, as this Campaign Goes on, i think youll hear a lot more about Foreign Policy and really about this on comparison of democracy between biden and trying to as one of the main contrast points between them. Its no exaggeration to suggest that goes a could yet loosing the election though, right . I would say its definitely going to be politically damaging, i think elect horribly. It will be hard for that one issue own to sanction. But as weve heard in the conversation today, the way that us selections work with swing states with a small amount of votes that can go one way or the other. It is not often table as being a swing issue and we are seeing increasing not decreasing mobilization around gaza and i think um, it just will depend on what, what direction introductory, that conflict takes with our economy that remains in the fall. Okay, well well leave it there on my thanks to all of i guess. 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