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Over the past 3 years, our team has studied the Global Access and in equities to corporate 19 vaccines. And we see clearly that lack of manufacturing capacity, especially in africa, has been a key driver of global in equities. That means there has to be significant investment, promote the public in the private sector. There has to be access to intellectual property and know how we need the human capital. So significant training and Capacity Building is necessary. Weve got to rework the supply chains to ensure that they are adequate for regional manufacturing. And we have to make sure that regulatory support and Regulatory Oversight are appropriate to ensure that were developing quality assure to the axioms around the world. Oh, thats kind of nice. So when i love is, but there is a list that possibilities as a strategy at least one strategy i im going to welcome petra and also i talked to jody. I know you know, dr. Jody and they both got to introduce themselves to you in the context of making that seems in africa. Petra, welcome to the stream. Please say hello, talk to you as around the welcome to the well, what you do to me. Thank you very much. I am theater. To launch, im the managing director of acquisition by technology biologics. Be biased in cape town, and weve all the w h a m r, and i hung up making em all Night Technology accessible to actually go to produce that own m automotive ecc. Right. To be on the shadow, right to having thought to go to it is certainly lovely to have you. Weve been talking to a lot of the past couple of days, but this is something quite fresh. A new tension, a positive. We might not want it through. You well, what you do was wonderful to be with. You find me in this way to be able to show the sisters my name. Dont tell you. I do like to talk to ya. D, i was simple haps, but for the show really the most positive one is that i change the app or do you have to go back to the delivery lines as well as im special on voice for the access to the tools accelerate to which is the global level platform, situated at w, h s. All right, get to have highlighted. Good to have when else as well. If youre watching right now, youre on youtube, you an important part of our conversation. Put your comments or questions right here. Be part of todays show. Facts and so i guess petra and adult theory, we have to show these for our audience. I see why we all right now. So one percent of vaccines use in africa, a made in africa. Shocking. 90 percent of that things use in africa in poor to 8 point one percent of the global supplies vaccines produced in africa. 25 percent of the Global Supply vaccines is used in africa. So a big can use out of vaccines. A very small producer of vaccines. Why is that that in balance, petra, you start the say many reasons 50. This is the reality. We just not knew this has been these 3 for 10 years. But the one thing that the coast funds they make of done is to really surface this reality and create a stream of energy that will change it. So there is and speed, lack of capacity, reasons being a set, the global supplies dont many nights the landscape. The reason being that these dave is never a strategy that was comprehensive creation of what it goes system and implement that. Now we have to strategy, and this strategy we have started to implement. So this time were going to get it right. Getting roy strikes me is the variance of Scientists Research as an adult because on the african continent and some of the Amazing Research that was done during the beginning of, at the level kind of way. The way in right now came from within the continent. So its not the brain power is not the intelligence. Is it just money . Sorry. It was. It was electricity. Money and its pallet. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Um i, i would say that we, we absolutely have the capacity and we often hear you just have some, petra, petro, these do some incredible what we often hear, that there is no, you know, that wed have to import the capacity. The capacity exists within i forgot the, the, the, the note, the know how the switches, the ability is inherent, keep that menu of all diaspora is all the ones who walk in menu. Theres manufacturing areas around the world, but it is power and it is also the responsibility of leadership, but it is governance. There is an opportunity within this crisis. This is a moment for her as purchase. Said that, but what the time debbie has done is shot a magnifying glass and one of the of equities in the world that we live in. And that is now showing us, or as africa the, we need to be in charge, not just of our vaccines boulevard Health Security macbook leaks. You know, not just vaccine production, but all that medical kinds of measures. We also dont have the testing. We dont have the diagnostics capacity, not just because they put for the myriads of, of, of, of, of elements and illnesses. We also dont have the therapeutics capacity. Were not able to right now, the african continent. There is no past the day, which is the, the tablet does your to treat, to treat because it and, and why is that . Because people like petro opportunities, i know, alfred aspen and also our friends in synagogue should be able to make these drugs. But the know that the technical transferring the sharing of that property is national. Its 8. 0, oh, oh, all the tech technology, let me. Yeah. Get you to technical. Yeah, no, thats of people like petro, im looking at the worlds a, come on, come to us onto projects. Come on, were ready. We have to know how we have the capacity. We just need you not to give us permission, but we need you to, to, to, to lead is to this mobile can recognize the africans how security is also global. How security advise you the. So yeah, do you write that needs to be a can do attitude, we have to order the type of polluting pockets on the continent. But without building a policy environment and without building a vertically integrated 6, we cannot hondas and liberty each, the value of all the knowledge, i think would weve demonstrated the continent in, in, in various capacities over the last 18 months. He said, we have to scientific base, we have some technical advice. We need infrastructure if we need investment and we need a policy environment. Ductless stimulants looks to me like local production and local procurement with out that we will not have a sustainable sick this. So this isnt, it goes system that needs to be created for the late fee, quality regulation quality, and a market place to view for them that will procure locally and not only global procure after this issue if you are building an entire industry oh, most from scratch and i say this is not on the oh, yeah, yes, yes, no. Okay. Even if it is not by us, i mean, it fits with several countries getting together with the w. H o giving the support of this is huge as it let me start with some the i do understand and that is what all the vaccine needs. Of course, we were in a global pandemic, so this kind of it. But be young that dont d o d. What else . The stairs, measles, theres this rebel out. Does that mean something that is like person via to my heart and i am currently visiting, visiting sort of the global how sort of gurus headquarters of the wild to geneva. Ive just recently been talking to some people about h b, d vaccines and also the testing the diagnostics for the, for the human problem of virus, which is you know, that but basically the cause of psycho cancer. We have vaccines are best practices can prevent this. We have testing the compromises we in africa need to be able to look beyond that. We need to be able to look at the fact that not every efforts and countries they should be able to produce. Because the backseat, i mean the people talked about producing the shop and the re, we must be realistic, but there was some sort of capacity, but everybodys produced just kind of it. So thats not to the future, thats just to protect it all goes and when its all the content. Next, lets look to things like its like php the the, the vaccine portfolio for goes when the next book just seems like, you know, ashland in south africa, the produce a, the sort of suite to Childhood Immunization vaccines. We must be able to have regional Production Capacity on the african continent because we need to protect all of the security. What happened jerichos, it was the other countries you know, stopped. Thats actually the vaccine export because they were protecting that sovereignty. And that is, you know, we, thats understandable, but the world cannot say to africa, you must not produce your own what, what petro say, actually correct. We need the policy environment. But when we look about policy environment, we must 1st of all say, we need to look at the leadership in all of that when i get a hold of me, does not own self accountable the whole got. So for my, were talking about leadership, im going to go to the head of the about health organization, dr. Petros, and this is what she said last year. And im just looking here. It was almost a year ago to the date. And this is about the potential for what can be the cheapest in the applicant content areas. In 2 days, im delighted to announce the 1st 6 african countries that would receive technology from the have to produce their own and might in a box ins, egypt, kenya, Nigeria Center go south africa and tonys yeah. More than 80 percent of the population of africa years is yet to receive a single those modules. Basically, an equity has been driven by the fact that globally vaccine production is concentrated in a fuel. Most of the high Income Countries pressure that the announcement may be small, one was because it was helpful and the other one is like dr. Tedra. So its almost like a Game Show Host and i can test since im going to be agent thing. Can ya . Nigeria, sunday goals, im advocating is. Yeah, but it is a little bit like that, isnt it . How transformative could this be . The tech that is coming your way. A say me usually, maybe just to circle back on your previous question and we have identified trying to keep the 22 prodigy vaccines on this continent. Okay. Those of the vaccines which are not only for the routine vaccine nation, but also for outbreaks about a lot less the vaccines for each of the new click to diseases. So there is, there is a Clear Strategy and a demonic, and a need to be an identified. So it came back to dr. Teachers announcement. It was amazing. Thats 5 companies in 5 countries on the continent will have access to future relevant m, automated technology. Through this program, we have already had tanisha, synagogue, tanisha, and egypt at cj, and receiving the 1st Knowledge Transfer for him on. And i, technology, we will receive send a goal in the next month, and we are waiting for nigeria and kenya, 5 that already being, being tried and bar code ready, ready to to see if the 1st acknowledge it package. So this program is building future relevant capacity for in order no vaccine production, it diversify the platforms in egypt, and it adds platforms to new companies in julia, kenya, seeing the goal and of course, by back being expanded and being one of the full most entities. This is fundamentally a game changer. If all the Nice Technology is, is it has a problem. This for innovation, it has a promise not only for cobit 90, in fact, to be on that extra. Can you the yeah, yeah. Can, it has a purpose for malaria. It has a prominent but, but, but weve, weve had so many promises on the continents. Im going to go back to much point and also patronize points about it, about policy. And what is that, you know, the, a boucher declaration that all need is made in africa was 20. Well, 21 years ago now i was trying to use a gun test. Went to im so i wasnt, wasnt born yogi the we read about it more than 20 years ago. We dont know about this. What we write about charles street. I dont. 20 years ago. I actually have to confess that i was in a breach of that day. It was a 20 and it was may in 2020, that the declaration was, was decided by all the ages that they would commit 50 percent to Health Budget where all we today. I think only one country in africa has reached out 50 percent. So i dont want to insult anybody, so i wont mention which ones the case im wrong and this is investment. So what petros talking about, we can always have, you know, the world is receiving us. Its not investing also in out of Health Security. And for me, that is where we the salt because of the buck stops. It has, you know, i have been known to say during the early days because it, but it could be said it originated in africa. The world would have locked or knocked us away. And throw away the key that would be no operational speed. That would be no investment in our indeed because we have to develop all those. Or we have to commit ourselves in all our leadership and we have to push, but not long after the 7 hour time. Thats not here. But that message is not nationally gets into the lead us on the asking content. So we can cry as africans about inequity if left us behind. This is i have to be very careful here, but this is the vaccine of paul tate as you and its really good for you, is no good for africans. So only if those one of those things that bought the need a shift is so critical and that is some responsibility that showed a absolutely name is the week after look and whats fast. Yeah, we have to, we have to, you know, i mean when you point one, figure out whats the next full point towards yourself. And wed have to look, it was, you know, what dr. Tedra announced that and you know, i had the privilege, i mean i just had the privilege of meeting with inputs for a few hours to talk to you about the future talking about how we, we, we, we, we, and show that we do insure the house security not just of africa but its like the america of, of, of, of asia. Ready many other parts of the wow, its thought you need to ship. I so we have to, we have about policy environment. The picture was talking about and i had to do the guy i, petra. So im going to move this to a big picture even if we start to forget what the impact of cub assigned to us as people got with. I mean in 2000 as people got this internet about insurance or as people go to bounty by law. If we then also forget about cobit 19 on the in fact, lets move this conversation to associate, you know, make development for the leadership on this content. And what is the most important opportunity and responsibility is to develop this content vaccine, manufacturing capacity, capturing the value of this mess of monks in us week, a full vaccine supply. If we, even if we put the Health Issues aside, is associated can only development imperative. No need to can not invest in that building a workforce direct for any basement intellectual property and innovation of infrastructure exports. How successful . Asked the lady that way. If, why wait, im the culture we are currently receiving vaccines from other middle Income Countries. Most of the vaccine to be received in africa today to be created not to be made out in high Income Countries, but in ancient country. So there is, and thats why i say that the very top of this is theres all to, to see. And this crisis, but what we need to do is also reported it, right, because where it comes, its when people talk about vaccines, people think of coded vaccines. We need to begin to use the language of petra used earlier about the pledge to party vaccines. You do know that there was the car and straighten up the bone to which you know, thank goodness of yesterday and i want to congratulate you again to the government and my sister j. The minister. Thats gonna bring j name right now. I for an outbreak. Oh, but yeah, those black sees they were in a freeze or somewhere, the ones that are being used in a trial that a company considered it was not what it was, not was that while right to develop the dogs. Let me bring in the 10 minutes of house for you guys, you just name to. Oh, so relevant as we look ahead to what is possible with faxing, how the important that that patrice with is african countries. And this is what she had to say october the 122022 things relevant to our conversation. Right now shes working together. We shall come up with Practical Solutions to better protect our communities and reduce the chances of cost for the spread of this virus industry. To a free kind of solutions for our free con, problems in the long term. As african governments, we need to both to invest, maintain research and development, innovation and manufacturing of health tools, such as vaccines, diagnostics and essential setup you takes to address the widest break spectrum of diseases that threaten us. All right, says absolutely. I have you 2 comments and questions for both of you. Petra helped me out with these patients a space around for you. So we have from his same day here. This is the best solution for the applicant content for the whole issue of faxing. And that could be the best solution patch of response. I agree that one was easy. All right, bruce, were so new chief is right and said that seeing oversight in african countries, would it be rigorous . No. Okay, okay, so im going to go to that question that is, so this is what we get hit with all the time people say what is going to be the policy that is the sort of a, it was insulting, based on what youre really doing. Thats the, thats the confidence that, that was discovered on the conference. It was africa that identified the that the sequence, the, the, the, the only product there is in the world and tried to shut this up. But then, so when do you know mich sequencing the benefits of, well its ok, but when were trying to produce magazines, people will say the quality is not good enough. That is not and asked you that we should break to the table. We and thats what, what, what, what j i change just said a minister of health, of uganda about not Just Technology transfer or intellectual property. I think we need to move beyond that. We need to look at the integration within our continents itself. We need to ourselves, begin to discover that the, the talents of the, the, the, that the, the research and development capabilities, right, to enable us to create all those have a few take smaller diagnostics and we need to work with the rest of the world. So the african, as she said, african solution for africa problems, no quality, i dont think is an issue. We have to know how on the continent, bruce . Oh patrick, i love this question. It comes from goldfish golf. Hes watching on youtube right now. I see. Could this have happened . Are you looking at that same production from the asking confident have we not experienced a pandemic . And i think it would have taken a long time because we had previously epidemics that was devastating for the continent, but need not to hold a global hold. And they could not deliberate each. The energy of the support that weve done was close at 90. I believe that this has been defined damage has been a landmark change for this continent, and we will keep them in maine. Tim and we will implement the strategies that was born out of cobit 19 anxiety. And he did an equality. So michael likely was such a troublemaker on you to share the patients because peoples lives so on the line. Shared with its easy for you to type that in the comments section. Voltage already, you have 30 seconds to respond to that said the patients the, the whole conversation around sherry, patients as be going on to several, several years will be bashing of each other. Again, i just said, ive also just had the privilege of meeting with the director general and i dont somebody call joanna to discuss this very issue in the last in the last 24 hours to discuss how is it that we could move Forward Together . Is a global community, not at each other, but together with im in all around sharing the, the intellectual at the end going today because shes very much business oriented. Shes like, were not going to give away this. We have on the stream and she was really interesting on how she was defending the ability for the companies to make money. They need to make money. Im not just going to give away. I would say that she, i mean, i think that the note says that theres been a lot of discussion around this. I wouldnt say that shes defending the companys ability to make money, but the fact is, so we have governments and as well, we have the us government, we have various other companies, youve already protected all that, those industries. And that is why i said, if you remember from the audio question, that it is not just about sharing the tax, but it is about the innovation within our own confidence. Because ro was not built in that a. So we cant always sit back or wait for somebody to share a text, we have to begin now the research and development into creating the diagnostics. My know, you know, that as far as companies, both the semi gov and the can you that are about to create begins develop diagnostics capacity. But its how grown a local. So we need to look at that was we also work hand in hand to the pharmaceutical industry of who petro is, want, you know, the fall, african fonda, and we have to look at how we move to get the had to be, let me go right to the now support yeah, cuz shes doing that. They are in the pitcher. If you take us 25 years into the future, what is the best Case Scenario . So that seems being made in africa. Will africa be exporting faxing . Is that possible . Yes, i think it will multiple last multiple companies with multiple multiple platforms and actually africa will contribute to vaccine innovation globally. We have the ability once we spoke the sick to, to innovate. We will good during the right out and i need to lecture property, and i hope that we will be open to share it in benefits, shading agreements. It is not to be monopolized. It is to be shed in license agreements that has benefits for every party. And not to be whole close to keep them a not monopoly. I think these are different rules. We need the balance to be restored and not make way with ip. It will give you the way i think we need to use intellectual property as an ablest. Why not a petra d. U is on each of thank you so much. Is it a very vibrant of vigorous conversation . Im going to be following with great interest, how a vaccine production is happening in africa when it is happening in africa. And you can be show that we were put on that right here on the stream as watching. Ill see you next time. Take care of the of the every thing is being handled. Its being, its being measured. And its not just i say, instead of like say, i mean may slow things out of the state. 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