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But its reported one of the lowest death rates and politicians say the rise in new cases is slowing aid workers in vietnam say that at least 50 people have been killed and dozens of missing after a powerful typhoon triggered landslides in some remote areas at least 12 fisherman have also been killed Florence Louis reports from kuala lumpur the 2 villages where the worst of the landslides took place is in a coastal province in Central Vietnam and this is a region that still recovering from floods earlier this month that killed about 130 people and destroyed hundreds of homes the government says this typhoon that hit has damaged 50000 homes and left millions of people without electricity and heavy rain is forecast to continue until at least saturday. U. S. Secretary of state mike pump aoe has described the Chinese Communist party is the biggest threat to religious freedom he was speaking during a visit to indonesia he said the party had tried to justify its brutalization of muslims as necessary for Counter Terrorism on pavers visiting the worlds biggest muslim majority nation as part of a regional trip to bolster trade and security ties they have slashed all red cross is condemning growing violence in the local conflicts the latest ceasefire between us about seanad armenia appears to failed doctors tried to move patients to the basement of a hospital as the city of the panic came under heavy shelling from his area forces as an artillery attack by Regime Forces in syria has killed at least 5 people in southern italy the artillery shells struck a residential area. Others the headlines the news continues here as 0 right after the stream next. Talk to old is there a school is the government not to take the necessary action to really address some of the structural issues we listen i still think that trouble is the safest mode of travel and to spend that when we meet with global news makers and talk about the stories that matter. Hi im femi oke a enjoying the stream while winning dropping out of the u. S. Workforce as the pandemic hits the labor market advocates worry that years of economic advancements by winning could be in jeopardy we want to hear your thoughts and experiences so be sure to tweet us at a. J. Strain all leave a comment and i live chat to join the conversation. The coronavirus pandemic has sent the u. S. Economy and i doubt what forcing many people especially women out of work around 80265000 of women who left the workforce in september compared 2216000 men thats according to analysis of Labor Department figures carried out by the National Womens law center one main reason is that women are overrepresented in several of the worst hit industries another is the pressure to balance work at home life have a listen to what resign a real stall with the stream about how she lost her job so were here with a 4 year old one year old wasnt difficult enough i was reminded early on by my manager that he didnt want to hear my children on the back on a business call and went on for months to one where i asked if you want to meet my one year old in the room alone. And he responds with. How to greet you can do you need to hear that. Coming from a father to employ whos working hard doing 2 jobs i reported discrimination that i encountered for months and i was fired. So here i am sure a Global Pandemic where millions are out of jobs and im still who drops is. Joining us to talk about americas female recession in washington d. C. Nicole mason shes the president and c. E. O. Of the institute for womens policy research in florida. Shes an economy reporter with the 19th news and its a column a style and name hello everybody good to see you all collectively nodding your head at wendys on i was sharing her story at diane what was going on the office the resonated with you well yeah its always been hard for women to maintain careers outside the home and to take care of their children at home and its just become even harder during this pandemic because of the merging of home life and work life and its a shame that often women have male supervisors and bosses that may not really understand what the women are going through because theyre not mom. Cheap money as an economy would pull to you make the figures that we should you put faces on those feet as if you were going to tell us a story to help us understand what those because actually mean for households and when the families what story would you tell us well yeah the figures are astronomical right you said it 865000. 00 women this year in those 1st few months of the pandemic some 11000000 women lost your jobs from february to may its difficult to understand just what a huge number this is and how this is affecting folks so theres one story that really stands out to me theres a woman i spoke to earlier this year here in austin texas and shes a consultant she has 2 sons her husband is a doctor and early on in the pandemic in march she was offered her dream job i mean talk about timing right so she was already dealing with the challenges of having her kids at home and realizing very quickly that this was not a sustainable situation for her family so she had to turn that job down actually and as the months wore on in the beginning of the year she realized even the job that i have right now had a part time consulting position even though job i have right now is not sustainable and you know i was the a the assignments you know piled on for her sons her husband was working with coal with patients he was on the front lines his job 8 was certainly essential and she started to realize if were going to have to make a choice its going to have to be me and unfortunately my job is central to who i am its not separate from from who i am as a person it gives me autonomy independence and she was facing for the 1st time in her life the reality of having to let it go and wondering how long are the decisions that i make right now because of coping 19 going to follow me into my professional future. Nico i would love you to help us understand which is some of the holidays hate businesses jobs areas of the workforce where women are losing their jobs to have to give up their jobs im going to start by paying you a little clip from lena is from the National Domestic Workers Alliance this is what she told us a little bit earlier and take a look Domestic Workers are house cleaners nannies interpreters by definition the work is done from other peoples homes so they dont have the option to work from home this means a pandemic has had a unique impact on this workforce we just released a report on the impact of corporate under mr workers over the past 6 months which shows that at its worst 7 out of 10 Domestic Workers at no jobs at all more than half of respondents for 6 consecutive months told us they were able to pay their rent almost all Domestic Workers in the u. S. Are women and 90 percent of those we surveyed are also the mothers of intl during the pandemic has been devastating for these women who were already working precarious jobs and yet they are the essential workers that we depend on. You just pick up from where paulina left off there about where is the hardest hit jobs as far as we mimic unsaid. So thank you so much im so glad to be here in a part of this conversation so the 1st thing i want to say is that the code 19 and the job losses have had a disproportionate impact on board wage workers and women of color and match because they are in sectors such as Leisure Hospitality restaurants they work in restaurants education and Health Health care field so those are the sectors that have been hardest hit but its really important for us to narrow that its many of the women who have lost their jobs or were women who were earning less than 40000. 00 a year and many of those were single mom so. And they have to leave their work in order their how their homes in order to get paid and also have caretaking responsibility so i want to be when we are talking about those operate really stretch ourselves to think about the different ways that this is impacting women in different sectors especially women who are not 2 parent households and. You know facing different circumstances because in terms of whos being most most impacted it is those workers the Domestic Workers and the workers to our earning or in the ways jobs done we have not yet done it well i was going to say you know women of color also had less of a foundation when it when something so drastic as this recession happened right so we know that black women Hispanic Women latinos are less likely are making less on the white male dollar that and then white women we know that they have less and Household Savings that look less in income in their household they are far more likely to be the primary breadwinner so these are people who are making impossible decisions i mean were talking about women who are sent home and dealing with children and that is on its own an enormous challenge but think about also this other group of women who are making impossible decisions do i leave my kids at. Home and keep my job at risk of losing my job if i try to figure out something with child care and miss work i mean these are these are decisions that are really impossible and or seeing is people some people are leaving the labor force and some people are really trying to patch it together in any way that they can but when a safety net falls through like it did this year particularly with child care its very difficult to find those solutions i am just looking at a graph on my laptop and this is put together by. A mccain z. And it is comparing and contrasting how many are doing how women are doing black and white black women in white women and in every category women are doing the worst so he is the legend here gray is excluded blue light blue pressured to work more vibrant group. Is exhausted so compared to fathers and mothers feeling excluded mothers ahead of fathers talking about being pressured to work more senior level men and senior level women here senior level men here senior level when much higher for the more pressure to be so work more and then being burned out men down here round about 30 percent and were much higher just over 40 percent it seems to me that what kofi has done and weve so many other issues as well is what we already knew about our society about the coming communities is now underneath a magnifying glass and the 4 guys are beginning to show even more clearly than you for diane. Well one thing i was going to mention is that women do hold those disproportionate jobs that were affected in the sectors that were most of adversely impacted by the pandemic they also are more likely to work part time jobs and to not have a salaried full time job and what that means is that they did dont have jobs where they would normally be provided the benefits that you get with a full time salaried job so these are workers that when they need to take time off they cant get paid for it when they need health care they dont have Health Insurance coverage by their employer so these are always the most precarious jobs to begin with and the pandemic the fact that weve had to women have had to stay at home or with the kids has just made it more and more precarious in terms of economic well being so its time for the fact that you know women rely on other women and especially like schools to be open and. You know childcare babysitters to help them out to help them maintain a work life and now that schools are not open government really has left a hole like government was in directly supporting working women by supporting schools and helping schools open safely and watch the kids during the day so i think its just showing that government. Needs to step in a lot more than they have been because i got a question for you from each of im going to get. Most is the huge gap only because of. By gap do you mean the gap of women maybe in the workforce 865000 because that or is that that when we study that conversation we were talking about how many more women are leaving the force that the what falls in the last 15 months compared to it is it is actually directly a result. More directly a result of the closers of schools and daycares across the country and there is no strategy at this stage federal or local level to get schools opened so i am i also a single mother. Of 10 year old twins and when the schools closed in march i thought i could just hold on and just make it make it through the summer and then. Came and i was there kids are still out of school and its been just an Impossible Task to manage a 40 to 50 hour week job and also be now home schooling 2 year old twins and i cannot imagine that burden for a lot of other mothers and i feel very fortunate because i can work from home but like i said most women who have lost their jobs or struggling to make ends meet are not moms who can stay at home to work to get paid they have to leave the house and so theyre making impossible decisions and for many women going to becomes when they have to choose between taking care of their kids and working they choose to take care of their kids how did how did you manage that transition in the fall nicole im just wondering because a lot of the mothers that i spoke to at the beginning of the year were saying we cant do this for a few months we have no idea whats going to happen in the fall how much longer were going to have to to take on that burden so im just curious how how youve been managing it since School Started again because obviously those numbers in september thats when School Started again thats when a lot of kids went back to School Virtually and at home its not i dont think its a coincidence that we saw that huge drop off happen in september. Absolutely i think youre absolutely right and for me i have to say for. 3 weeks my kids were great by the way they did it you know. But i blame the parents. And the funny thing is. We are the last thing i think when you all think. That those jokes. Where you have mom with a while so against think the although in another the baby on her lap top on a singing meeting. And then trying to do homework at the same time i thought but its not sustainable and we spoke to a number of women who have families and trying to keep their jobs at the same type and this is what they shared with us have a lot. I was a full time anywhere up until april when i was laid off due to the 90. In the 6 months since then ive realized that the possibility of me reentering full time work force is pretty difficult right now because my husband works outside the home and we have a young child who is in school now and were one of the lucky families hes been able to hire a babysitter for 2 and a half days a week to cover house and assistance with virtual schooling for both children about leaves other 2 and a half days a week where thats something that i have to cover one of my sons has on his im so its a little bit more difficult for him to sit at the computer for long periods of time and focus and with my business about 90 percent of my clientele is for events and so right now with a very important decision to decide between my childrens education or going to pick up over another career and were just to provide for my family. So what grade would we give give child care in america right now who would it be a c a d failing grade because that is that is the issue here isnt it its if if mother was picking up the slack we got in childcare how is child care going to help parents what grade would making dying. I mean i see a day. Yeah yeah i think its generous no little bit maybe a full time now yeah i think im in there. Yeah all right so how algy way not like the 4 of us that has solved this but what where were the issues with child care in america when there are no. Ready because he stopped the primary issue is that we we reported pandemic we didnt have a strong character structure and many were working mothers were struggling to figure it out on their own and there was no support from either the federal government or employers and so repent them occurred and it just exposed that brokenness that the system and the need for a National Care infrastructure and employers like i said one of the 1st story that you like it was pretty heartbreaking because i do feel in this moment in the absence of federal action we employers do have a role to play in making sure that women can not only into the workforce but are able to sustain employment and stories like are just heart breaking where women are really doing all they can to keep all the balls in the air and theres a lack of support and understanding to petty child care in america. And examples whats. Tump a nice the there are great schemes where parents like thank goodness this is helpful to me. You know it its hard to think of any because in reality what weve seen is an entire system collapse in a matter of a few months and you know like nicole said child care has been a problem for a really long time what did we have this year that was different because low income families have been dealing with this for a very long time the difference this year was everyone was at home everyone was dealing with it across the socioeconomic spectrum and so now you have a moment where child care is elevated into the National Consciousness because every family has to deal with it in some way when you have one in 5 child care providers have lost their jobs this year you have thousands of centers that have closed and this is an industry that is already really struggling its razor thin margins right the workers make around minimum wage if not less if not a little bit more and that you have regulations insurance overhead costs it makes it very difficult to run this business and so when Something Like this happens it completely collapses and so issues of how are we going to regulate this the industry about insurance about access in child care deserts of the country that barely have any supply these are really really big problems that really theres no time like right now to address them. J w says i cant help but wonder if the pandemic schools and day can an incredibly weak economy amaze any families rethink having children that is a pretty depressing thought right there diane. I know that youve got growing up kates if you had younger kids. Looking quite so so together right now about. A way to apply that as well. My point is that if this it happened 20 years ago to me when my kids were little i would have had to end my career at that point i mean and i think that in terms of. You know Silver Linings i can find find one here right now is i think that. Economists are starting to pay more attention to the essential function of the caregiving part of our economy which you know has never been properly valued by economists in terms of contributing to g. D. P. You know a lot of caregiving work is either unpaid or vastly underpaid and so i think the fact that caregiving is the foundation of our people which means that its the foundation of our economy i think were starting to realize that if we dont have a good character having infrastructure the whole economy above it is going to crumble and so i think that is good news in terms of opening economist eyes to the reliance of our entire market based economy on women and caregiving i want i think thats a great point because i spoke to an economist this year who just said this is an issue of diversity and representation we would not be in the situation that we are in right now if there were more women economists if there were more women of color in that industry in that field if there were more women in positions of power right childcare would not be on the backburner. If that had happened then so here we are now sort of reaping the unfortunate result of that i also spoke to economists quite recently principle column is the Us Census Bureau a little bit earlier and this is what she shared with the stream its almost like these figures are a warning now what are we getting have a listen to misty it is generally just too much to bear for mothers to maintain increased informal labor work in the household and still work outside of the home the longer this goes on the more difficult it will be for these mothers to really get a can of labor force which have the potential to exacerbate. Generating quality in the workforce in the long run weve been given a very clear sign about what may happen with women in the workforce. So in the United States. Guess i want to share this thought with you this is from sarah sarah is on the cheap hi sarah thanks for being part of our conversation she says this pandemic only highlights gaps in gender inequality i myself feel like im at a disadvantage as a young woman the men at my workplace more and im very worried that i will be laid off nichol advice etc what would it be. There are so somebody the issues that you raise are really important ones issues around pay equity and also economic preparer to your job and security and thats an issue that many women in the workforce myself included are struggling with. You know our whole careers but even more so in this moment so the only. I dont know to beis is the right word but i think having the conversations and speaking out and also engaging on the front lines with many of us here im who are doing this work around pay equity and creating more equitable workplaces for women. My my big thought right now in this moment is that it really provides us an opportunity to think about a gender agricole recovery an economy that works for women women are 50 percent of the workforce and we have not been treated no assets and employers and workplaces have not accommodated women in their needs in the workplace and i think its about time that we start having those conversations about what women really need to be successful and ants in their careers and we just havent had that say and diane. While still on this topic do you feel that now that we know the numbers. That the federal government will help women law. I think the federal government is going to focus a little bit more on the care infrastructure as nicole referred to and the importance of investing adequately in that people infrastructure if we really want to see our economy not just recover but thrive in the future is theres going to have to be some change about and some recognition of the value of the caregiving part of our economy. Diane into bradley and nicole really thank you so much for being part of this conversation we appreciate you and co will be back live at 20 that. All day away wednesday yes fantastic and you know we had to talk to a little bit more why im plugging feature a stream of vents look out for this 1 october the 30th at 2100 g. M. T. G. M. T. We will have a one hour episode we will look at some of the big issues facing the u. S. Ahead of the president ial election you are invited you are pundits i look forward to seeing you take everybody see you next time. November on aljazeera. 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