A question to ask these days its hard to filter out the noise and keep track of whats really important the bottom line tackles the big issues this issue a p United States its people its economy and the way it deals with the rest of the world the bottom line only on aljazeera. I am to me i can feel what she is strange the United Nations has declared its attempted 9 International Date take education. Because around the well there are 75000000 youngsters who live in countries that i mean quite says which means that their education is in jeopardy what does that even look like unesco put together a video where the kids literally dropping out of school taken. On the stream we are marking a national day to protect education from attack by talking about nigeria and Northern Nigeria and the chinese for youngsters there have a great education i will not be doing this alone and say hello to rosie rosie introduce yourself to an international audience. Imagine imagine you have a filmmaker also a journalist had recently been working on it. This week on the. Scene that you were to nigeria who is building the social. Situation ash and we have to remember also tonight you line delighted to other dissociation we see today. Youre very Welcome Center you will see more about that film in just a moment but 1st bookie welcome back to the strange friend of the stranger remind everybody. Anything more efficient about are proud to be accepted there after being freaked us out because where we walk to blows the quality guards are affecting of our were only 7 vantage population so who every day are based on a collaborative action weve got to be. Good to have you back and bill are a really great to have he tell everybody who you are what he did. Thank you very much for having me my name is well im a book atty i work as an analyst are focusing on Subsaharan Africa at the 20 institute for Global Change based in london i am a senior associate nonresident at the International Center for strategic and. For strategic and International Studies which is b. S. In the United States and also economies with daily trust in Nigeria Newspaper im very happy to be here and looking forward to this conversation. Happy to have you well more introduction to duke and that is for you to hear you are in the comments section were talking about education in overnight geria you can comment right here and you too can be in the stream rosie 1st of all made the architect it gives us a really good view of whats happening in Northern Nigeria and to youngsters there and to the Education System that very briefly tell us what the film is about a minute going to play a little bit of the training. The ok suit is really. Who is 36 years old young in her. Final years ago to design of what he calls or being called medicine. Ball or saying this is where people are uncertain thoughts. Around than they. Were against western education. We should find for the sake of. International donors. 5 years ago building 24 schools in medical area and designing the 20 around the state even though the insurgency is still raging in the will areas. Ok its a great set up lets take a look at the trial. You know what i was going to make it wasnt some kind of trouble but yes i was going to be considering. It whether you believe the other thats going to feel good about anyone not going to watch the winter i dont know what i was. Going to do was a good way to go but im usually didnt seem so coming here was that i would just sing that ill be home that has been one that has made Good Progress in. Education one and one is ghosts go to schools thats a rosy set us up with this film looking at building schools i dont want to give away what happens in a documentary rosy but this idea of not enough schools in Northern Nigeria explain why and if School Building is going to help. Suit civically in order to our job he says in the northeast nigeria they have been hit by this insurgency before by bahram they say to create an Islamic State is being fought that fits and larry and he is. Over the teachers earth to form of the children thousands who are children have been matched by the group and also 1400. Been destroyed by the insurgents since around 2000 when that any. Power play or western education so this fight is about burning down many schools will lead to the most should remember that most in this insurgency you know around the world was the not many of these 200 school girls some less who also doris 8. 100 Girls Secondary School and so the. Last 3 were. Then me over the course of you know. 20 years or so this indicates across Northern Nigeria is not just North East Nigeria this decaying. System we process all but in many other parts of nigeria and this is really led to many people who have the resources to be sending their children to Public Schools while the private schools are up and schools and the 2. Main book again this feels like its in education when i create schools and kids can actually things it please go to school how is this project helping. If the debt isnt you know very fantastic specially because we know that if schools are not to have been able. Theres nowhere for children to go to school and that is also considering the 5 that even when we think of technology as the i think we should be. A lot of those children and thats community kind of. Technology but i would like to see if any of that plan to talk about the topic on and on schools i talked to. One law yes will d contextualize them its been. My advice is. These are also situations that are ways that you know all the things in the 5 that schools can be attacked and when you look at it. Its the which is and its and then once again you will see how that went on sticks and what we believe basically at systematic only. Schools or who want 6000000 children have been affected and the results of these not on that out to 6000 of those children that are affected ag else going on but its a lot 443000 who out of the 3000 and the shop of them now are affected but let me close my thoughts when i seen that this conversation with their we had 80 of covina 19 him being the question of a section and. I was aware. That where we see its a waste thats how its spent you know child and keisha we see how a lot of girls. Access to adequate michelle and so on the day this interest because. Many of those projects have nots to get its all going to school all schools these are the result of seeing schools that do nothing to him because they are. I am yours of course for the fair or the. Health consequences are we more or less a lot of go there who are still being sexually abused sorbet me as i stick my nose they sure are absolutely crosssectional sure that we are. In charge of education is merely on the. Lower the way that we really understand Northern Nigeria from a new space fact if it is looking at and their activities and rosie really covered it well as i how do we get these young people out of the book of iran and then doing something thats very constructive theyre the summa governor of borno state described their ideas as being the young men as being pregnant with id is just such a great visual but having no way to share those ideas how do you see. In the context of where we are in t 20 and then impacting kids at school or kids out of school because a covert. I mean just. That it was an incredible suit and. Education for me is the most portent weapon that to endow maine and finally defeat book. But unfortunately education is a long term investment. While politicians talk think in election cycles and unless we have that aint right kind of investment into education then it will be very difficult to get books out of military the military air force should continue of course theyre important explicitly because they would contend the violence but addresses in the root causes of boko haram need my safe investment in education and i think thats part of what we see in the film. That you just spoke about but wait and then that we need. Much more than just coffee talk Capital Investment into it we need investment into the money power by employing 25 it teaches and what youve hit it with would savvis conditions we need excellent managers and administrators strut i mean is that the billions and men tend dumb and we just need continued investment into education if we were. To now that the point is that i am and is pregnant with 8 years as the governor rightly said the former governor i should say but he is and example of the thousands of night g. B. N. You with that how do you to make change in that n. T. And in whose we stands people who were born before independence and who have exhausted their ideas without taking our country anywhere so what i would see into that owned. In that judea is to give way to young people like ahmed. Catching jetsunma has sent an exam. And i think more people should be given an opportunity to young people in this state and we have done across nigeria we have been intense of thousands they are hungry to make changes. With ideas but there is no opportunity it cant our exit in politics because it requires a matter of capital invested men network and skin in and and destroy young for that and i think this is a wake up call for an amputee and politicians to give the Younger Generation an opportunity to impact on lives in their communities. I guess we can spend a week talking about the issues impacting not is education over nigeria but 9 tyria i want to pivot a little bit because youll tearing wood which is really tackling some of those big challenges for instance up lad who is an architect he talks about what he has in terms of his skill set that will change the level of education that is available for youngsters lets have a listen to him he spoke to us a little bit earlier building a guinness book just particularly in the not history you know of nigeria is the most part which will for a long time it is this i guess bill clinton is a yes book has destroyed over our antos in 400 schools and 1st hand its all to gloss over the 1000000 children or gently that access to education and in the history you know of Nigeria Education is the only one that plays significant role in their lives it housed them on their trauma it also helps them to help hopes about future so the expression of education up a salute is into a region is the best response to what the times actions to stick with it kitchen. Rosie i have a question for you from the roche events to the 80 and he says how would this education protect the students from book a home rom especially girls the go child deals with society no education as to who emphasis on early marriage and then being baby factories and then some and then some and then some rosy how do you deal with that. Then i guess one of the 1st questions that i asked son it was how he had integrated security into is designs. But in the film it was if you have 2 new habits you go to do a degree we say the so us at least. They all the. Researcher by not only height but as he has a double fence many of them and. They are made a curious ritual. Cancelable around its heavily fortified is heavy presence. And so i think that was really you know behind our thinking when he decided to concentrate on the city because he felt that it was better. Than now and then the outlying areas it is true there is this a very heavy military presence there in terms of some of the perennial problems facing children onto sick girl. Children in. Nigeria issues that are poverty its hard. Ultimately i just said education is the best rates her. And it is the bride price it is its you know its a commercial exchange ultimately is that you know who are educated. Always. Opens and saying at least they. Wait to. See the next generation and therefore. Rara be reversed. Ok ok im just going to tell you that we hear you so if you could sit back and youll see it will be a come back to you so sunny says on you tube look around has unleashed terror on the Education Sector especially girls schools the federal government is however china its best to determine in ending the insurgency successes have been recorded to lama is that a positive approach is that a positive comment are you seeing that. Yes so just to bring a bit off more context lets understand that boko haram say thats going to education is not accidental reject in education and attacking it is the video or book or adams ideology the group is. Founded on this head straight for Western State education and they give Different Reasons in their rhetorics also in that it deliberate attack and i made this the point because that at some places that i typed that can be seen as 10 gents joke that where there isnt but if you case and education and schools because they are schools and education and as the comment to pass it yes the federal government didnt ask. And says this against boko haram we knew that there were about 24 local governments in the hands of. The that authority has shrunk but boko haram immense imminent threats and what we have seen in the last saw is these increases in this occasion on the part of the group we have recorded some of them with spectacle attacks in chat not judy i mean just in the last 10 months and schools are not secure. And if we continue to see the incidents like the one we saw in chibok which was about 60 or so who knows what the 1. 111. 00 goes where taking i mean at at at midday at noon i mean they were taken just like that now if we continue to see those kinds of attacks we might have that you didnt we might have the infrastructure but theyll get nobody to show up in those schools needs to be stepped out stepped up and bought an International Organizations would look at i mean you can do that in schools it was free zone in the northeastern part of not judea and i dont they looked at it and i know boko haram is a very difficult group but im too. Oh my god now but there could be some home or some kind of art i mean do you know or see actions that will lead to these impact on schools on hospitals and that will not be places joe yes sometimes it doesnt matter there are still problems not just to challenges out there and we need to confront the bookie i see you nodding let me share this view and then and then you can jump back into a conversation main fight is so nice says the question is what kind of education our young says able to have in Northern Nigeria you have had some successes with improving the Education System of young people share those with us ok go ahead thank you. Talk about education. And well talk about. China. For a moment and there is a book how tight for a moment again. Bookie how tight for a moment sympathy can hear me but you know tight for a moment were not hearing you clearly and i really want to hear you could you refresh your browser while i go to. A sort that takes us back to this International Day to protect education from attack because i went to unicef and they have this in terms of why this day was important why we should be thinking about not just the nigerian context but in the global context have a listen to the proclamation of the Magna International the British Asian heart attacks and sending a receipt regarding the embargoes or see what i mean. Please use of projects and see people students injured and our enemies under challenge free israel children living in countries created by a graphics. Excuse me for my acronym the un i couldnt mix up i should a setting yes go and that brings us back to the film the witness fill out read the architect being connected to this idea of protecting education from attack rosie why is a day like september the knife where children around the world are recognized for the difficulties that are having to get into school to be well educated why is it important from your perspective. Anything especially important this year as a book you mentioned earlier because the code. In many ways is made everybody who was anywhere in the world of the subject its a lot and realize the importance of education as important is for their children so for them to surveillance well but then of course this is. 2020. Rewind to 28 like they were still you know too many pockets in the world whether its syria iran nigeria mexico where schools are coming under. The most interesting thing that heard so far is the. Suggestion by the ashley maybe that. This is a national day and actually look at ways to the girls. Groups to vet. Schools. You know this really feel that this is just this is the 1st day for the protection of. Education but i feel that you whats great about it eastlands it is you know starting a century conversation in a year where almost every school has been affected by it and that education of course has been affected and disrupted. And you just go back to this this idea of this this day you knew you taught us how many different areas the youngsters at the Education System in nigeria is juggling with trying to cope with how does it how does a day as a unesco day help with that understanding. I think you know you want to eat in about i mean for National Related this is the fact that it helps also to educate the public on what the or what the issues are the concise as her its how its all sold to understand the context or do you mean i mean it is all different groups of people and when we look at this day that we are commemorating for the 1st time the internationally its a good sector took a shot. Thats one day that we weve never heard and a lot of people still do not understand what the issues are and so a day like this helps us to sensitize the public like you know we are doing it also helps us to more be life who we are you know of their last word are the International Level to National Level it is so passionate and there but most importantly it helps us to say leave great senate great and all you for the achievement of humanity and we cant you know what the architect as the and what was the are. So with a day like this its critical for us to have the conversation but what are your strategies to deal with the issues that we have all identified bookie thank you so much for rosita lahman thank you so much arent the take me building schools in North East Nigeria is kind of the documentary scene as you can see it online out is a little calm and aunts and auntie thank you guest thank you chief for the excellent questions as you take care of. 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