About the increase in hostilities in yemen we listen this is the moment you stop action this is the moment right on fighting every night we meet with global news makers and the stories that matter 0. And this. Debate with parents about racism. Do you know how i actually know shot now you should you rather know because i actually work in the ghetto i see people do you know why theyre 11 years old and seeing these people do you understand this systematic historical isenberg i dont see in that position ok are told you want to do is begin to know yes there is no you should be fully hilo or most of them just want to suck the system were do something bad like drugs or gangs have been told they have been oppressed you have not been given the same opportunities you have you have you when theres plenty of black no one thing till he had a funny mine you want your conniving as an issue is the reason why its still continuing today i see no leverage is all kinds of people that are of color. Yikes well haley gets it but how do you be an effective ally to the black lives Matter Movement if you are not black that is what well be talking about with the guests today. Tell everybody who you are welcome to the street thank you so much for having me i mean its the chairmans i am a retired social worker and theyre all there im an activist and a black 5 minutes so im happy to be here. Happy to have you a smile welcome to the stream great job new tell everybody he. Says so my name address my mina cam i am an author a clinical social worker and been doing this work about for. It to have the luxury it to have you back on the strangest remind everybody. I my name is Mark Greenhill im an antiracism educator im the executive director of muslim antiracism collaborative. Great to have a oh its a guest we are streaming on you tube right now so we have people watching if you have questions youve got comments and i guess well be very happy to help you out with them so just jumping around the new team you can be in the conversation resumes say ready all the guesses so ready. Yet. Allies even though worried about well what is it we are some of our Community Online this is what they told us mosey says allies recognize under privileges in a personalized and in their workplace weve got some i am saying being there to someone or a group of people not making it about you the real shift im sieges 80 is a bond of Mutual Respect between factions individuals founding an Integrity Committee realizing a common universal progressive go and then i found this. Little things that the minister this is between. Us make as other they look fabulous other allies and least used. Well you know i mean for several years now i have challenging this idea of our lives right because theres supposed to be a Mutual Benefit to all parties involved in what we think about black liberation im not convinced that there is a Mutual Benefit for white people in this fight for black liberation so i pivoted to using terms like coconspirators and accomplice because there is an extraction element of the word out when things get tough you can pull yourself out and i also think that using our law is a way to slap a label wants to be a part of this you know when you can just be a good person and ive found that back in the idea of just being a good person and you know respecting peoples human rights and decency people like what do you mean i got to call it something i might. Hayley did he not want to still get ahead you know do sis just heated up you know the reality is this is. The idea of calling yourself a liar been an ally is a saying thing that i think about in terms of words that people grab that have no cultural background to it and one of the things about white body supremacy is that it is a philosophy thats why is able to adapt to whatever we do and so what is of happening is that people use this is that people into slapping labels on themselves and declaring that they are Something Like im not or its the same thing as sand im not a racist this is same thing as saying i wasnt raised like that or i dont see color is the same thing because it doesnt sit in a culture allies. Ship should be a verb and when what that means is that you must be doing something in the 1st thing and i think people need to do white people to racism is a white problem is a white invention so they have to develop culture to be able to hold it and work through it and theyre not doing that when theyre doing is is doing performative stuff theyre kneeling they are you know saying you know how can i help if i had out more time im a lose my im a loser. Illiterate theyre not theyre not developing theyre not developing culture theyre coming up with strategy and when street and strategy is britto in the face of culture the k. K. K. Have a culture they have songs they have colors they have all of it different type of stuff what does it white ally have they dont have story they dont have the elders they dont have anything and so its immediate the ally ship peace is a mute point into you know in 31020 years from now until they actually have a culture. Margaret im going to put the. Question commute straight from you and this is from Daniel Daniel hi daniel thank you for joining in this conversation dont you want to know what is the point of being an ally in the 1st place peaceful process hes always followed we so much destruction hes feeling very negative and margaret. Who came here. I was just in. Powerful action and vigil. And we saw in los angeles this weekend the largest peaceful protest and so that wasnt followed by destruction what you have is a lot of mobilization and people coming together and you know showing showing up in in powerful ways a lot of times i mean you would have you know and even with that framework of assuming its coming from from the protesters and whether they. You know and putting the onus of the violence on and then when a lot of times you have outside agitators like sometimes and often many times its the Actual Police presence and their actions that can incite more violence and so you know when it comes to doing protests they have been very powerful in matter or los angeles when they. Said he was not trying to pass that budget you know like i mean i was actually in a meeting and they were kind of in some denial and a few days later when they camped out when they went to his nice neighborhood and protest they got that you know they got 150000000. 00 cut from the l. A. P. D. So protests work it does work. Let me give you an example not you guess but you audience an example of where maybe has been incredibly powerful as a football player. And company doesnt play for a little while or. He gives up with a white ally he recommended how does he protest Police Brutality he says the stories of police burst he said we met was as what you know i appreciate your service think i expressed to him maybe theres a different way to demonstrate where youre showing more respect for those that lay down their lives for what that flag man stands for i suggested you know kneeling because people knew the pray that you know will kneel in front of your fallen brothers grave you know to show respect he said i think that would be very powerful i cant predict choosing not to sit on the bench this time but to take me the fact that he was willing to listen and go to with me versus sitting about that was huge thats an important step that hes taken i think other people need to take a step or 2 and maybe listen to. Yes i am going to move on to sort of practical things like counting he did as a coconspirator as a good person but everyone according to students had that. Teacher at thanks for being in this conversation its going to get was the so called our eyes and set would have choice about their destruction not als why do you want to be out. Hundreds of leads. What it does it does is what i said earlier and this is who it was Sister Sister minister said earlier also yuki if you if all you have to do is declare that youre an ally right then bodies of culture are going to distrust that if you dont have a work if you are not being intimate with other white folks in your homes for the next 3 to 10 years figuring out what does it really mean to live in allow ally ship to or merge do your then then then then bodies of culture and black people specifically are going to be like you know what we have to do what we have to do im not concerned whether or not you are creating culture so youre not passing down the virus of white body supremacy in the virus of racialization your bias of racism down to your children and so for me the most important thing if you are really about that life and trying to be an eyelash then youre going to when you get off this phone rather than sinning get off this that this show reading sending us messages you will see in your people messages and say for the next 3 years we go star read sister finish this book were going to star read and other peoples books and then were going to get together for the next 3 years no matter what were going to get our reps in because the reality is there is a white folks have a remedial understanding of race because they are advantaged by race they have not had to understand it we have had to and. Standage in order to survive so when a white person comes up to me and says something about race before they get anything out of their moms ive already left the conversation because i know that their i understand your race is not steeped in culture that theyve developed so thats where they can use a start not in what you do not how much kitty cloth you have on not how many times you neal and the dirty way do who told who told brother collin to kneel that was not an ally that was a white dude an ally comes from something he comes from a culture that dude cant did not come from a white abolitionist culture that was that had been honed over decades or years he did not come from that show hes just hes a white dude who gave good advice. Yeah i can i am and i think and are and ally ship so a lot of my work muslim and terrorism collaborative is one focusing you know because like one we Muslim Americans are the most racially diverse philip just group and the country so our solidarity practice is right of predominately people Color Community and that also extends you know like our work extends up outside of that and so these conversations have to be had because anti blackness is global right and also the anti blackness and people color spaces and and the kind of model minority myths that that that happen and certain communities are actually positioned as model minority to really undermine you know the kind of work and so so as we think about ally shipwright and solidarity or you know coconspirators like all of that becomes like very complicated as different groups are impacted by White Supremacy and their own commitment to that work and so you know thinking about what does that mean and i agree it is about you know a commitment to that action like i mean if you think about alliances historically its like you have to abide by certain agreements to be in that alliance there is a shared common issue or cause or common enemy and so were talking about White Supremacy and if people cant mean that then youre not a matter lions like youre not allied with me youre not fighting White Supremacy so if i was watching us and i was a known a black person i wouldnt be quite here but a good person id be quite clear what to do 1st we found to brianna what i saw an all too good day here on my twitter page i just want to show them to you because its not just about white people being good friends to black people in the struggle you could be any color right brianna well its an awesome got to 2 queens on a mission to spread truth love and awareness weve been talking about ideas they have a practical solution they have a document we can stop doing this will help you out we spent yet this is what they tell us. Well there that still needing to initiatives or having was challenging conversations in your circles and changing this movement to all aspects of life and whether thats work school or home its no longer the wait the black community to continue carrying this on their own we need the voices of our allies to help us amplify this conversation. Yeah and its not just the White Community who needs to learn how to become better allies as a south asian woman at my i have to recognize that my experience as a model minority is not the same level of oppression or discrimination faced by the black community and just because im a person of color does not automatically mean that im becoming a good active ally. A lot of the members of the model minority who participate in and celebrate black culture but sometimes going too far as to say the n word or other words that we justify by saying oh well its ok because im brown or actually very damaging and perpetuate racism was in our own spaces ringback. I mean he said he picked up he had you know when you ask the question of like what to do im thinking about right now and this moment is me as an organizer ive been organizing demonstrations for over 20 years now and what i have been seeing at a lot of these demonstrations are white people coming to the friends like presently coming to the front and forming barriers between protesters of color and the police in an effort to minimize the violence that police will enact that weve seen that before weve seen that in places like pakistan in baltimore and in baton rouge years ago and its an effective tactic because the police are are more reluctant to attack white people white bodies then you know they are people of color so thats one tactic that weve been seeing but the other thing that i want to i wanted to just make sure that we cover is that when you ask the question of why is this time different now it is because of cope with 19 it is because and as i wrote in my book its going to take people experiencing Something Like what black people have been experiencing for centuries right loss of money loss of jobs housing in jeopardy adequate housing security right so people are now waiting in line to eat they dont have jobs tens of millions of people do not have jobs and theyre starting to feel the weight of that and they dont have anything to do right now because theyve been home cleaning up their physical freedoms have been restricted and so when when george who might die right on camera which is only it may 25th because we cannot forget. And im out our marine moon died in march right as code that was taking over the news some people asked like why wasnt about Rianna Taylor aside from her being a woman and the massage any in that its that george happened in may 25th after people have been cooped up for 2 and a half months and theyve been without a comfort zone and i have mine and people are just like what the heck what is the government doing to us oh my god theyre doing to us what theyve been doing some black people for centuries we need to join come together so theres not not everybody thats out in the streets is poor george lloyd and i know that. Or using him almost as a martyr which we shouldnt do because he did not deserve to die but hes become a symbolic because it happened as a perfect storm of things coming together economic turmoil you know the system is showing itself to be what weve always known its been and people are waking up and becoming activated right now so im talking sensible things right now for those of you that are going out to these demonstrations youre wearing your mask i appreciate that you are linking arms youre standing in front you are protecting black people but what were seeing now is the police will even shoot shoot theyre starting to shoot white men with pepper spray and mace and rubber bullets and thats how you know this is different because the white woman is the most precious commodity that White Supremacy has so police are being lets have white women you know we are in a different space so we need to offer to be activated my instagram following more than doubled in a week because white people want to know what can i do you can start by listening to folks like the people right here who have been doing this work for cades and already have a lot of ideas weve been trying to get out and use your voice to amplify this but dont talk over us so come and tell us what we need to be doing listen and learn. Sres mike im going to get you to respond to corinne she time and corinne ok its almost as if corinne channeled what the minister was about to say to people who want to pull the flat out lies not a movement he she is this is what she told us and then resume you actually dont call myself an ally is that something that you arrive apps instead i say that im practicing antiracism and so thats an internal process where i am trying to be humble about is the 1st and most crucial thing to be humble and to be willing to learn from people of color who are the experts i constantly trying to do the best myself with my white fragility of right and sadness so thats the internal piece and then the 2nd piece of practicing and carries in some is of course to dismantle White Supremacy which exists in every institution in the United States up to and including the federal government yes and i like the a practice that she uses because in your therapy in your work you then each people from different communities how to practice could you give as. Good friends you want to support that movement any single practice that they could start off with like begin as a practice then come together themselves get into a house themselves commit to doing it in embodied way for 3 years do what do what the white woman and my friend robin do angela says is that this is how when black people know it youre an ally. How would they know they would know by your practice and so what i would say practically is there white folks have to come together they have to begin to create culture and practically im not one for tips im not going to give tips what im going to say is is that this if if if if why folks dont develop culture in people who the entitled blackness the black body is where america does its dirt and if people are not excavating that and working with it in dealing with the ugliness of it they will not stay with this movement we wont see them next year youll cut off their blond dreadlocks and move out to a suburb and well never know that they were in the movement and so for me why folks gotta come together gotta study gotta read gotta write gotta get mad at each other gotta feel each other gotta go away from each other and come back in order to develop a somatic abolitionist anti white supremacist culture. Mongery him implicitly a lot so we actually here on a new chin mother let me put this to denise baker hi denise how do i remain vigilant against racism and not allow anyone to silence the least and again thats a big ass mugger me i know you can. Be being vigilant against racism i mean when you cant be silent but there you are person of color or not black person of color youre a black person your way person speaking up against racism so i mean you do have i mean we do have our voices we have spaces where we can speak right and there may be consequences for that just like women when as as i tweet as i write as i text like there are consequences that i have or for whatever when ive spoken against injustice when ive spoken against racist islam phobic sexist policies it all you know it for those who benefit from that they may. Feel like its not even fragility i hate to use fragility because theres retribution and its social dominance right and so when theres things that do not have been and what i think its like you have to fortify your so and understand like what your your role is like each one of us is a leader in doing this work and so right now i mean youre seeing worldwide people speaking out against authoritarian regimes and were seeing you know that authoritarianism coming in you know right now in the United States and that is important that we be ever vigilant and that we refine our voices and that we seek to amplify our voices by synchronizing our voices with shared analysis about White Supremacy and how white the harms all of us. So that who is are important and i want to make sure that we dont were not a time to if youre watching us and you want to be a good friend to people in the highest Matter Movement pushing you are not that you can do. Any less than going to feminists to jens she will tell you what you to be doing. Raise her medicare have he will tell you he will give you practice and he will help you. There may be a fee involved but hey this is important always. A muslim are can this is not the result in my position it is extraordinary these not just here but even china how fast you can do it you can be good friends to people who are in the struggle save for me nice to you think its the time to the kind of eyes pandemic modern whats the. Want to do with that the one sentence that people should remember one sentence you got to inspired by what would it be right now are all on in the streets because we are impacted by covert 19 and or seeing how it supremacy hurts us all so in being an ally understand how like how you are impacted circe your skin in the game and be committed to solidarity practices and upbringing as my uprooting White Supremacy within your own life thats a very long sentence but it was worth while retaining your one and. Ok your declaration is not adequate and you have to build culture and you have to come together. And develop a culture shorn your children for your children because otherwise youre going to be passing down the trauma of racism to your child. I mean nice to take us out of your one sentence i know its going to be one you know its going to be our prairie and pedagogy up your press teaches us that it is not the responsibility of oppressed people to oppressors of the oppression of being an oppressor so it is up to those of you with privilege and those who benefit from White Supremacy to alleviate yourselves and liberate yourselves from your oppressor status its not our job. Any rate. You change this country much conversation scene its time. 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