Days numb but the libyan warlord loses his last stronghold in the west turkeys military intervention term the time this is inside story. Hello and welcome to the program im going to. Have to in libya our unraveling quickly warlord launched an offensive 14 months ago to capture the capital tripoli from the un recognized government of National Accord all g. N. A. T. Its forces say they regain full control of tripoli. Pushed half dollars fighters from the town of tal the last stronghold in western libya follows weeks of similar defeats on the losses of territory along the coast but half the remains in control of large parts of eastern and southern libya where the oil fields are a correspondent mahmud up to wahid as more from. The Government Forces pull out and now it will come. Out of. The back to the defeat of happiness forces and this is. Now by losing the security. That is a major a lost a. Western libya as you know that that swift takeover of this except out of tune up thats why. See juror all of this if youre up there who is mainly a tribute to the Turkish Military support for the Government Forces and also there was gruel of. d russian medicine is one of the bagnall groups have been fighting alongside after forces now. This city the city afternoon at about 75 kilometers south of the capital tripoli is very strategic very significant from here after his forces had a Central Command over the past year and from here Russian Military experts i dont agree with in monte any gyptian military experts have been supporting cast that they run the battles but on the battles in southern tripoli from the certain Central Command and the city up to who are now from ted who now have to his forces received Ministry Enforcement reinforcements and also military supplies over the past year momentum began to shift in january when turkey started sending troops and drones to support the internationally recognized government and turkeys president has promised more cooperation with libyas Prime Minister the United Nations says talks on a cease fire have resumed for the 1st time in 3 months. And if i as also raj urged nations such as russia egypt and the u. A. E. To stop supporting Khalifa Haftar he speed is among. Libya hold on a person who was never concerned about the libyan peoples problems and who has been putting libyas future in constant danger can never have the capability to sit at the negotiation table or this person and both who provide political military and Financial Support to him are the biggest obstacle to peace. Or youre going to hear and i would like to address the countrys head of support of this aggression and that contributed to the killing of libyans and the destruction of the country you lost your bets we will take you to court and here you have just tasted defeat at the gates of tripoli this supplies how you have supported the war criminal with money and weapons keep your hands off us let libyans live in peace history is unforgiving. Lets introduce our panel in turkeys capital ankara. Turkey a researcher in the setter foundation a think tank in San Antonio Texas man saw professor of politics at the university of texas in san antonio and in washington d. C. William lawrence senior a junk professor soria lecture at the American University school of International Service welcome to you all william 1st of all to you is what weve seen in libya in the last 24 hours a day escalation or just a turning point its definitely its early. Look at color now libya who controls what we need your Senate Changes just in the last 24 hours that push the front line up with a western government run 20 kilometers 240 kilometers outside of tripoli and russian mercenaries or perhaps those were troops fighting east are now back 600 years part of the church. So this is me. Egypt turning and its part of an escalation as the west calculating how far it can go and certainly western government would like to take over the rest at least not that it had a string of success over the last 6 weeks but. Wiser minds all around the world and many others are trying to caution out of west not overplayed its hand and to get back to. John will turkeys intervention encourage a deescalation or is it is this a turning point what will turkey want to happen well what turkey wants is the well clear and consistent over the years i believe because we saw turkey standing with the governments in the recent years but even before that turkey was always aiming for and you know negotiated its a political solution the before the after hours take over from libyan administration and his and his claim to the clip of the rule of whole country. Turkey was trying to engage both western libya an act that the northeast and be an actors what turkey for the time being once is the role in back of aggressiveness with which is boosted by a number of regional and global actors you know stalling stole in and you know firing this aggressive. Wrestler attempt to take over tripoli and take down the d. N. A. Which is now seem to be to be achieved already now milton the speak in g. N. A. T. Side and you know by the nation turkey would like to march even further east in order to take back the town such as sit and also the small towns that has wished curtains the star at the end of this process the military aspect that this again what turkey. The elimination of hostiles as and you know personally legal actor from the from the view scene because turkey turkey and as it legit in that coup plotter put it which was which was again in a voice by yesterdays meeting by president on himself one more so the elimination of all of us as a protest and if possible the royle of turnips actors in Eastern Libya who. Have been under the under pressure of insult as we saw in 2 attempts of popular will till the taken over the rule of the country for months although you are it sounds like the games are a half start turkeys not going to stop until hes gone if it. The bible thinks of invisible i mean at the end the mother can say kate thats a dozen something that you still go wrong this is one and then i think its a mistake to try to get to does it just make it act up is that as old as he said thats arms and to be aggression is documented why is that we doing all this while as well as well as the mistress of russia is a bit to the government is not so and took it to keep paying for all these for all these mercenaries and on why because it loves libya its come on stop that ok its interests i mean to go it was quite right there are no that there are no friends in International Politics that only interests and took turkish turkish as allies agreement reminds me again of if i get a part of it was we did what the goal of this is that its a part of it is what he said which is really wonderful so green is between the weak and the strong ally closes them young and young girls you start giving up your hats then you give your coat then you give your your your should they give us good and then you give your soul. What is to be doing in libya. I was hoping at the quick end to both sides i was hoping to intuit to an end to to comfort them deborah yesterday. It was the wake of 31 people who were bettered yesterday and the country and the cities see the good and to empower up the the the radical zionists in the west well we wont stop until we get the oil fields ultimately this is what its all a box ok. Well the answer is im not on some sort of libya no theyre not whats now decided to make up 70 percent of the abyss all is in southern asia ok and then the so items and was one 3rd or 0 and they were devoid of any splendid to do its our will have to made big mistakes we depended on the russians we depended. On the hardware they all know for example our supporters own interests william. Days are numbered in a way herring reporting might even being cairo at the moment meeting with sisi along with the leader of the libyan house of representatives half dollars going to the going to try and move him on all may well have to present dissent 9 lives and so yes 18 lives if you look at his career counting have to rout is not a good bet in libya but theres no question that the russians are frustrating but have to are the amorality 7 for us he would have to for some years now egyptians are frustrated with d dont and d when he declared out last month that he wanted to take over of the west the Eastern Parliament and the beast or government against the very good and see that gibson position hes in he was rebuffed by the head of the parliament to some degree started a separate peace plan which is backed by the russians and others and so while there are several factors d of pressure both from inside and outside libya to force after out i think he will try to hang on for as long as possible. As for have to are its all about gaining power in order to reach his ideological and other jack tips its not about just the cause of the easter because some some defense of the east its about his own check to see if i could just disagree a little bit with my respected colony in texas. Any of it would have patience that hes telling about in terms of the church in the west can be even more applied to do have to arent east certainly there are twice as many earth mercenaries fighting for the east they are fighting you know for control of oil is just as bad as any fire truck in d the west and have to has even more islamists fighting for him is the suppose it. Is trying to reform the west so most of these accusations are projections from the east of the west about what the east is doing even worse than the west in most cases now the solution here obviously will be a negotiated one when the libyan actors winds up to that wheat is unclear at this point but i would not count have to are out yet though to what will the turkish president be telling the tripoli based Prime Minister fires also raj to do now will you be telling him to fight on its a push for the east or will it be telling him to take part in a cease fire and talk. Well if we if you look at the statement by the fire the surat yesterday he said he doesnt want to sit down with up the at the moment because. For the for the past one year or more than one year we saw you know repeated aggression by after camp on the tripoli but you know when when the when the military balance changed in the triple tanya we saw eastern actors the spokesman spokesman of the mother and mother and also after themselves talking about you know the fire station of hostilities and for the sake of ramadan and also the that that for religious and humanitarian purposes but this this this you know does not seem to be quite convincing because you know these these condition have been around for a very long time but we have not seen the actors call important goes in and they have been they have been strongly defiant in the face of any suggestions for peace and we built the actions please remember you know the hostile to the crap and reject all international attempts to reach a cease fire and you know you remember the moscow moscow meetings he did not even find the you know a cease fire agreement and even berlin he did not accept any of these by solution so it is not realistic to expect you know the east and you know eastern actors achieve the telling for half the expect to accept on a ceasefire and negotiated solution the on the thing that would that would you know convince and and other you know a failure of the end is a mystery of defeat. The whats what made them you know call it what this part is the fact that they were defeated militarily in the port area and that was thanks to turkeys support of the National Accord because you know you any has been quite weak because no one was supporting. The number on the one standing on the other hand we had. Supported by many regional and global actors so what further everyone would tell by the so wrote is. That whilst them to the company good people but the. Military. Targets are being achieved not now what will take a perfect and 2nd short pause there as my colleague alex topless takes a closer look at how Foreign Military intervention has changed the course of the war. Has been decisive in changing the fortunes of each site in turn and in particular with the use of armed drones. The warlord Khalifa Haftar forces 1st use chinese made wing long to arm drones 4 years ago with a range of 1500 kilometers these have been able to operate out of bases in the east Striking Government targets in the west the wing longs helps forces loyal to Khalifa Haftar advance and besieged the beleaguered d. N. A. In tripoli often inflicting indiscriminate damage. With turkeys extensive military aid to the un backed government this year changed it as the genie started to receive turkish. Namely the ballot. To these drones with a limited range or not as capable as the wing longs still gave the g. N. A. T. The ability to strike have to us forces interrupt his supply lines and protect its own units he advanced catching their enemies by surprise this tripolis troops counterattacked. Man saw. After doesnt have that many friends in the east unified support will that be now cracks more obvious in showing over that will it be time who else could take over from him do you think this is difficult you know have to buzz and listen i mean i mean ive i personally said that they might tell us that you know your lines of supply make no sense attacking the west in such a way makes no sense but it is his problem is that it doesnt listen believe it or not i mean im coming more and more and more convinced that politicians. Cant control libya at least right now the kind of government the current government because because theyve done their job is too difficult for them and become because theyre overwhelmed with this most was because a list and then 1st of all even even even in the east has is that by force he has he has the guns yes the guns yesterday i had a number of calls i was talking about the whole day talking on the phone but this is the that is the seeding with anger seems and going to have to one point on one side and seating with anger the west because because all those individuals look at the cities that befriended him now turned against them but they come to them so they have been what he and its with was with was supporting him does what we go there they they attacked the east. And so to us and they took their arms and it is a very very angry. This piece up but right now what were talking right now is a good way they should be but that isnt right no said only the only or the perhaps and media raved this is the Libyan Parliament and the Libyan Parliament has that has been fighting with after this is why theres a meeting in cairo now but dont dont dont back it up dont dont negate have to afghanistan of course in the east and it will be of course and somebody will have to deal with him one way or another perhaps not by himself but he has to deal with it and let me just Everyone Wants one thing which i which i spoke to have to with when his meeting and where he lived but then again i said to her. That mr have to what youre trying to build in shows shows a. Little to ignorance about about what you should do you went to berlin you took your grandson and you took your son and what you should have done going to be a little too talk about that at least you should at least they gave a shit made up individuals who talk about the east as a partner not you by yourself you know who does not have to talk and this is the problem the problem is that we dont want to have to it is ingrained it is mine is that i am the leader im doing im the one im the one who is always who decides with our time and hes not william bonsoir hinting that increased instability now in the east i know you tell us people should not write off. But is there someone else that the u. A. E. And egypt would want d now to take over from him theyve had enough of an. Very much so although again i agree with dick here that we should not count him out and he does have a power base not unlike adoptees he said sort of 2 tribes with him and then the rest of it was deals and i would say have to ours quite similar in that fact certainly the russians have tried several times to send agents to contact the son so it was them to be and that has not worked in terms of replacing have but that continues to be one of the possible strategies there are commanders in the east the names that have been floated people to. Replace have to but theyre no more respected than half are is there are tribal leaders in the east there are sol if this leaders are Even Stronger in terms of his military forces but theres no obvious candidate and i agree strongly that we have to have to what we have not to have that we want and he has into democratic tendencies and the tendency to want to put his own family members in key positions of power and so thats going to continue to work against him but thats true of a lot of leaders in libya opportunely those of the east which is built on a sort of in many respects this tribal structure the only solution is a Civil Democratic one and the only powers that are that are proposing that are the western leaders the very western leaders that used to so angry at along with their own leadership so the only solution as everyones d been saying its going to be you when process in which everyone as you did the table i was involved in the preparations for the palermo conference in tunis and met with many livy and leaders that it came to be with us there oust surprised how many living leaders just want the microphone to read these conferences rather than makes face for all their interests and other politicians libyans up and say that you know everybody living in is a little gadhafi and so a lot of this is just a learning curve to get into democratic outcomes and its its a long slow slog. Some libyans are had others in that process certainly have started if not one of those leaders ready to accept such build no doubt but however after hours at least on the back foot but tripoli is no more stable than other parts of libya if it is a host of militias in that saroj has to keep happy how can turkey help maintain the stability in tripoli when there are so many different militias involved in in the city that there are you know a lot of different groups different militias and it is itself the challenge of governing the capital in any given area but what we what we experienced after turkey intervened militarily we saw a command a single strategy coming out of a single chain of command so Turkish Military is role in tripoli has been has been through move through as well as the stop offices of the armed forces and they proved to be quite competent of lets say commanding there is there in different militias in the in the same direction you know throughout throughout the operation taken over what they see you know taken over the Southern Suburbs so i think you know turkish Turkish Military presence that proved to be proved to be efficient in terms of merging all those differences. For the for the say in a more getting rid of popstars aggression and i think this this experience should be or could be replicated in civilian and in the streets of you know areas as well turkey turkey in my. Awful if its at wide free advisory role in terms of you know public at the station even state building. You know took you to turkey. Some of the. You know in terms of in terms of providing the d. N. A. Of those you know capacities one saw when we last spoke about this a few weeks ago i see youre shaking your head there you said then libyans are tired and half dollar is the only alternative to secure peace they cant rely on the militias but were stuck with the militias it seems. Unfortunately i mean this is this is this is where libya is we cant rely on the militias and im sorry i really am sorry that this is this image of this magnanimous turkey helping that what is going to be doing in libya and all of that got to stay the libya and talking were talking about is the talking about if im not going to get it is it bad that the dictator and i dont see the end of them as well to what i said we dont want to see the militias in tripoli either i because of the might my personal feeling this oh never ever except if you of course never accept this from oregon or from the militia that he supports and. In the works ok unfortunately gentlemen we are out of time but thank you to build you took 2 months. And to William Lawrence and thank you too for watching you can see the program again at any time by visiting our website aljazeera dot com and for further discussion go to our Facebook Page thats facebook dot com forward slash a. J. 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