Doctors. And it will be a large number it will be will be telling them over the next very short period where theyre going and theyre going into war theyre going into a battle for the United Nations has raised concerns about latin america being hard hit its economic arm for the region says the effects of the pandemic will likely push millions more into poverty brazil has recorded the most cases of us out of a real run p. S. He reports on the situation on the continent from bogota. Very very worrying numbers coming from braised really get this pipes these concerns the despite the spike in new infections there the president of brazil he had both been out of keeps meaning my seeing the impact that hes will have in brazil he continues to say that hes more worried about the Economic Impact there and so he is attacking mayors and governors who have imposed strict measures in a number of regions across the bridge dealing insisting these measures should and men will be able to go out to just for their essential needs buying food or medicines on monday wednesday and friday when he said will be able to do it on tuesday theres day and saturday well on sunday everybody is expected to stay at home the president there said that even if the measures so far put in place have had positive effects he wants even less people on the streets and he hopes that this will mean that half of the people that go out on a daily basis in peru will go out with these new measures here in colombia also the lock down continues it looks like it has been able to reduce the number of contagious with the government is saying however it is still very worried about a possible increase or spiking cases in the coming days or weeks the lockdown here will go on until april tertius at least for now but there are talks about a possible extension a lot of the worry here is for venice where am i glance and hundreds of them i started walking back to venezuela because with occur in lockdown they havent been able to eat or pay for do a room in the u. K. As government is urging people to observe social distancing measures despite formspring. Weather across the country the u. K. Recorded 708 deaths linked to the virus on saturday the biggest single day rise one of those who died was just 5 years old the child was said to have Underlying Health problems it italy the number of intensive care patients this form for the 1st time the country is also reported its lowest daily rise in deaths in the early 2 weeks and sleeting to hope that the outbreak may be slowing Health Officials in iran are warning of a 2nd wave of cases if people dont follow advice to stay home despite that Industrial Facilities have been reopened in other years yemens who think rebels say that the saudi u. A. E. Led coalition launched airstrikes on cities in the north they said that warplanes launched 13 strikes in al jawf governors near the saudi border fighting has been ongoing there since the who feast of control of a main city last year at the new leader of britains labor party says that hell work with the government to fight the coronaVirus Outbreak in the National Interest his stomach replaces jeremy cole been following the partys disastrous performance in december the general election he promised to unite the party and win back lost votes his style was the former director of Public Prosecutions and the shadow briggs it secretary was the headline studies continues here on the desire of the studio to be unscripted next. Moon her warm glow. Give you a bay them all good for 30 years you begin to worship it and believe in his power of your life the purpose of the tyrant rightists make anything else unimaginable the 1st dictatorship of the dictatorship in your mind theyre all no superheroes the only super heroes going to save us is all shelves and thats what 99. 00 means its owes them a job so. Little up her own poor nation and not to be and to a fascist and a radical human. Family crabapple a writer journalist and artist guantanamo is a place that runs on secrecy and on censorship but is not just i had an advantage i could drive around the censorship as a journalist i spent much of my time covering protests all over the world the people in the streets today the same people whod been on the streets protesting against austerity 6 to 10 luck. I document people fighting oppression often against impossible odds i drew this right next to the right cops. I explore how all Global Economic system paved the way to a new all for terrorism. With art and with words i document the ways the people are fighting our. Lot. With technology provide the solutions to. All the tools we use to communicate in order. Become our undoing. All we sleepwalk Global Social dystopia. Was. Paul mean you share something were both people that are were deeply changed by 2011 a year of mass uprisings that spread from wisconsin to egypt to new york to greece to syria i got my start as a journalist going down to Zuccotti Park where the occupy wall street protest encampment was and trying to draw the people there you covered pretty much everything. So what about tell me what 2011 meant paul well. I think it was the rebirth of the anticapitalist imagination and id seen the imagination die i was born in 1960 so my dads generation coal miners cotton spinners very heavily trade unionized there was much to and for me the kind of death of imagination was about the soviet union collapsed the never i never cared of the soviet union old most of people i knew who call themselves left wing we cared about all ability to what sociologists call to have agency we saw the ability of groups of people to change the world and then we saw that smashed and then im covering the student protests here in london and suddenly we sort of a new kind of person emerge where you realize youre witnessing a historic rebirth of something of a media its its the imagination the abilities to say in your mind this kind of capitalism isnt working a carbon based economy isnt working dictatorship after dictatorship suddenly looks illegitimate and weak and stupid and elderly so we can change things thats what i think it was i mean we both know because we covered it you know and were right in the middle of it the things went wrong with it but to me its a bigger moment than a 989 for the berlin wall is a bigger moment than 68 its the turn of history back towards the possibility that everything you see oh so this window this financially corrupt hierarchical world could warm day. Thank you in a way that favors people beings close not some tried to create a sort of utopia and microcosm yet every single one of those squares whether it was tough year square in egypt or whether it was you couldnt park was a place where they were trying out a new society there was always a free kitchen and most importantly there was always a library right these are places where even in really sexist societies women. You know they stood as predators right and. These places they didnt just fizzle out thats always the narrative now they were violently smashed they were murdered in some cases or in other cases like in my city they were just beaten and you know shoveled away with dump trucks but the truth is that except in a few places like tunisia the protests of 2011 they did fail and i want to ask why why did they fail and did they fail and i wrong maybe a challenge but i dont i think its quite hard to succeed when your own armed and there are militarized Police Forces whose job it is to to smush your head. I think they didnt they didnt fail in this sense with what i noticed is that there was. The network the Information Network created a resilience social cycle is no talk as if for the 1st time in maternity i. E. 400 years were back to a point where all minds can be hyper social with each other without having to stand in a Public Square and hold a meeting so i think thats what wasnt defeated there was a sudden realisation that lost people my generation for you know these guys wandering around with the ear buds you know the why ear buds are individualized and theyre in a bubble and they dont care about anything else but what we didnt realize is that that bubble was full of networked. Connections and thats what i think the most profound. Impact of it was i mean most of us been profound for you because. Youre wrong it most clearly changed under the impact of having this iconic protest take place almost outside your door it changed everything for me occupy wall street felt like love occupy wall street was the space where i found my political voice where i realized that i could be smart where i realized i could speak before occupy i was an artist a pretty well known artist in my world but one who spent all of her time drawing in nightclubs drawing the sort of rich Hedge Fund People who had destroyed the world and then drawn my glittering friends who danced for them and entertained them and i became a writer because of occupy i was arrested the 1st anniversary of i remember i remember meeting me you sent me a message of the pictures that you do people and see that youve got your hands behind your back and youre looking pretty defiant i was pretty defiant i had a Police Officer i grabbed me by the arm pull me into the street and arrest me for blocking traffic and my 1st piece of writing that ever really meant anything was an article about my arrest and i wasnt angry because i had such a bad arrest i didnt know what hit me you know its certainly was a far easier arrest than you know black and brown people in america face every day for doing nothing but i was just so angry at. The lightness with which arrest was taken such as violence was taken america and i wanted to write about it and i didnt want to just sort of him to round things the way art can do right i wanted to say clearly what was wrong and so thats thats how i became a writer on top of the writing you worked on a collaborative book about what was going grease the altars self change didnt it but what i remember you did this big iconic series of paintings called shell game where you basically reminded me of hieronymous bush only with only with and a couple of casts and theres lots and lots of figures in every wall that it all based around a big figure which it symbolizes something and then a cloud of a crowd of protesters and suddenly the crowd is in is almost like at the center of what youre drawing an and then and then the drawings they pick up the people real people pick up your drawings and hold them up on demonstration i mean that this was cooler than any galleries ive ever had i had artwork that i would be sketching things from occupied during the day and then a few hours later theyre be out on the streets being used as protesters and just they just printed them in and exactly iraq and iran are you know run them off and were holding them. And you know theres always this artificial dichotomy right between art which is supposed to be terribly bad news for peru and you know politics right but i think both you and me are people that we have joined those 2 things well i mean the the me is that as a news journalist at the time i mean remember ive been covering economics i mean and covering economics and business is you know without wanting to criticize anybody who does it is boring i mean literally you know i mean the structure of the world it is you go to join interrogated but you know one Quarterly Results after another and and and then im standing on on 5th avenue in new york outside Lehman Brothers at 9 am and there are people carrying their goods in in a paper box because the banks gone bust and then the state the american state steps in and saves capitalism after 20 years i remember i had to take this stuff you know lying down for 20 years but the state has no role in the system and it was obvious to anyone that this form of capitalism was doing the way it changed my journalism is on blocked me all my colleagues on newsnight used to say we should say why we so stupid why we saw on free in the way we speak and we kind of whisper to each other its because we said because every one of those fears that were going to say bush is a war criminal live on air monitoring ourselves with a monitoring yourself makes you kind of clench its really syria and shouldnt the 2008 made me realize this form of capitalism is doomed one of the things that strikes me is how much of our present moment comes out of that year that year of 2011. There is a new series of horizontal network protests protests led by young people led by queer people led by women in puerto rico where my father is from one 3rd of the island was out in the streets protesting against the corrupt governor ricky rajjo and they drove him out of power the 1st time this ever happened in puerto rican history one 3rd of people rights there are protests in iraq that are being met with extraordinary violence by the state but still young men and especially young women are out in squares you know asserting their dignity asserting their right to live in a country that isnt quite talk recy and people impose often assume that what is driving these things are either pure economics or you form rest and theyll get over it was what it was made this repetitive pattern over and over again how princes 2011 me to the example of the of lebanon or the iraqi protest it is people who are literally prepared just on the streets and be shocked because they cant see a future but what is it that you think they want dignity i think people want to get a people of course want decent jobs and they want to be fed they want to power grid that works right but above all theres the sense of humiliation in puerto rico people carried signs and they chanted about dignity but the record had a hurricane 2 years ago called maria and 4000 people died in the aftermath and they didnt just die from like you know the storm or drowning that is that they died from neglect from the neglect that was. Done by the American Government to support the rico as a colony and from neglect by the corrupt local elite and the spark that kicked off those protests was that the point that he can center for Investigative Journalism published chats where ricky rose say oh the governor joe and his friends were joking about feeding the bodies of elderly people who died in the hurricane vultures and so you went and drew that normally drew you to pause in the reconstruction because because again its like flu is like bone dry fluidity isnt it exactly should lead a journalist is an artist suddenly an artist is the trying to really you know rewire the grid. Was a feeling i mean when i went back i hadnt been back since i was a little kid right and i hadnt been back since my grandparents died and i had not been as connected with that part of myself and then when i saw not just that the hurricane it happened but like my friends you know in the mountains that they didnt have any like Running Water or power they had to wait on line 20 hours for gas i took the 1st flight i could afford down the plane was entirely filled with other with the beacons and we were all carrying duffel bags filled with water filters and batteries and anything you can take us even if youre going to report like what sort of jerk shows have. At their friends house where their friend doesnt have any fresh food and where they have to get the water out of the side of the mountain and they dont bring anything to help right and. For me the thing that struck me the most was that what save puerto rico and this is what i think will save all of us in times of collapse and Climate Change it was the solidarity of people it was not the state it was not the n. G. O. S it was not like rich people with a lot of money it was people. Went to their elderly neighbors and they checked in on them and they set up mutual aid kitchens they cleared roads with machetes if they had to they set up clinics people went from you know town to town in puerto rico to bring water they set up a Massive Network of Solidarity Centers and was from the Solidarity Centers that the protests that overthrew the governor came that it was from that not just the centers themselves but also that that was right and we can do this we have been abandoned but we can do this we have dignity we have asserted our dignity by clear in our roads and feeding each other so this play that i wrote called why is kicking off everywhere which is based on the book i tried to do a sort of instant history of the way elites work what to do about this explosion of hope and freedom and they tried 1st of all censoring the internet the next thing they tried was switching off the internet is what they wanted to. The next thing is that they do the kind of propaganda that doesnt work but in the end i think they came up with an ingenious solution which should be we should have expected because this information theory was a warm watch. It is an Information Network most effectively is noise exactly and what they did is they said stop trying to just sense of this stuff just fill the entire inforce fear full of rubbish and. What do we do about that mean you in our own different ways are trying to tell something that some people call truth what do we do about it something very hard right and my last book was about syria that i did that amazing syrian journalist not when he and anyone who has reported on syria knows that there is an intense just Information Campaign were crimes by the assad regime have been proven over and over and over again and yet on social media on the internet theres just this attempt to flood that space with doubt and to smear journalists and 1st responders right and. Its very dispiriting at 1st right to us you know people who are trying to report and i think for people who are trying to learn the truth a lot of them just they shrug their shoulders and theyre like everyone lies its all nonsense and they sort of tune out however ice think that sometimes one of the functions of art right art is to distill and what we need now is focus as well and with that i want to open up to questions. You have been talking about agency and the role technology. So i would like to ask what is your take on the role of technology for agency and selfdetermination of oppressed groups its a very mixed thing for American Police have existed they have murdered black people this is something fundamental to america and black people have reported on it and that black media has reported on it and White America has not believed them right and then suddenly there were cell phone cameras and suddenly there was social media and suddenly it became absolutely impossible to ignore the way that American Police murder black people i do not think that an uprising like ferguson could have spread the way it did without social media and i also dont think the movement for black lives could have spread without the constant documentation of of these murders right on the other hand the news of the ferguson protests spread outside of ferguson because of twitter and not because of facebook and theres a very big reason for that which is that at that time twitter did not use algorithmic filtering and facebook did and the facebook algorithm privileged happy stories and congratulations it didnt privilege uprisings against murder by the state. Now twitter is also his an algorithmic filtering system and the same tools that we used to communicate with each other that we used to organize and that we used to share truth can equally be used to turn us into like a bunch of non pub loves dogs and this lee swiping for validation through our little glass boxes and i think its useful to realize that its not if you are addicted to social media if you find yourself in this its not that youre weak its not that you are you stupid its that the is are deliberately designed to addict people so i would say i want to answer in a different way one of the only advantages of being 60 years old which i turned last month is the i remember a time when a how engages he was normal. So i was surrounded by people him in my childhood an young adult hood who believed that what they did had an effect on the world and there was a there was a strong reason for that because they defeated fascism in world war 2 and they built a welfare state in this country by by wanting it when other people did what i think happened in what we call the neoliberal era of the free market era is that we started to treat the market as if it was a machine that controlled our lives and what does it include a lot of young people they dont believe that anything they do could actually change the outcome of their life it becomes like going to a casino maybe im lucky and i win the x. Factor or love allah or become a premiership Football Player but if not then its just dont to look. I find. I dont mean we shouldnt to do with technology is to do with our subordinates into the market for me one of the great things about what is happening and what Information Technology in that works does is that when you find when you decide i actually know i do have agency or people who went to the streets of turkey in 2030 and said no we can our julie resist or the kind of reactionary stuff that is around us suddenly the 1st weapon that you have is in from is is Information Technology thats why i think Going Forward the the social media and the networks is based on all a huge battleground and everybody on that battle needs to come clean about which side theyre on i think Mark Zuckerberg and all the owners of these big platforms need to decide whether theyre going to sit there and defend hierarchy or whether theyre going to defend an facilitate the agency of ordinary people its its its that you could almost say that is the question of the next 25 years im originally from chile doujin been a shit he burned books and paint over all the mirror and and is now needa government is i literally with growing some inconvenient books from the kid weekly so my question is why its art and all in all its expression so fear by dictators and their political air i would maybe start by quoting on the line about the theory of conquerors from memory. The purpose of the tyrant rightists make anything else unimaginable the 1st dictatorship is the dictatorship in your mind that makes a different sort of rule something unthinkable and what art does is it breaks you out of that mental prison art lets you think that there is another way that people could live that they could be that they could interact another sort of country that they could be in and it doesnt have to be political art to do that it doesnt have to be propagandistic it doesnt have to be set written by the same type of people or set in the same type of country but just by virtue of being good at art it makes you imagine other possibilities and that that imagining of other possibilities that is what tyrants and conquers fear i think i would add to that the so i was in greece reporting a quite depressed time of you know of a time when people didnt have much hope between the rising in the 2015 when the left came to power and. Youd be in a bar and yeah i would be angry and they want to do graffiti on t. Fascist graffiti and and some guy was murdered by the fascists you want to go and want to protest and then some women came in dressed in like like the best the most polite way i can put it as victorian sex workers sex workers from the 1900 centuries they were similar tenuously beautiful but slightly kind of you know slightly like destroyed and and they started singing songs from the 2nd world war that were resistance songs but what they were charla do while there are did is it brought this multilayered in us so that so that some young person realizes whats going on in my life is historic it has an outcome its it can create beauty even to the whole in the most horrible depths of despair and poverty and hunger and repression i think that is what this thats what makes me want to engage both with the artists who do this kind of thing and also to constantly bring to journalism and writing that quality that all will have the hemingway on the martha go on we you know we call reports are literary nonfiction there is a literary ness toward the great writers of the thirtys who cover the rise of anti fascism did and i think all those of us who want to be good journalists can do is try to emulate that desire to to put it a sheen of hope and possibility on to what we write. The only thing that its the politics of hate is the politics of solidarity im worried that the crisis of the self has a lot more energy to play on all of these these divisions of the working class all of these occasions wanting to they keep us from realizing our. Before any official investigation into the tragedy of flight m h 70 was complete the website one citizen journalist claims to have connected the dots and relay debts to one of the families or by the Investigations Team at telling count has identified the 2nd suspect as citizen journalism investigations trust is generated through transparent dont believe me heres the ever. Better truth for an approach truth well coming soon on aljazeera all i want to stay with my sound stay with my wife the rest internment and mass indoctrination all we were children are now in a process of reeducation or chinese assimilation forced labor and the use of high tech surveillance were being complicit in the human rights abuses that are occurring an australian investigation into chinas systematic repression of the weakest tell the world on aljazeera understand the differences and similarities of cultures across the world so no matter how you take it well bring you the news and Current Affairs that matter to you. Although im adrian for the good and the headlines on aljazeera u. S. President donald trump says the military will be deployed across the country to help contain the corona Virus Outbreak and hes warned that there will be a lot of death in the next 2 weeks there are more than 300000 known infections in the u. S. But over 8000 violence related deaths. Were going to be adding a tremendous amount of military to help supplement the states thousands of soldiers out thousands of medical workers professionals nurses doctors. And itll be a large number itll be will be telling them over the next very short period where theyre going theyre going into war theyre going into a battle of the United Nations has raised concerns about latin america being hard hit its economic arm for the region says the effects of the pandemic will likely push millions more into poverty it was slow to hit but the number of infections jumped sharply in march the u. K. Government is urging people to observe social distancing measures despite warm spring weather across the country the u. K. Recorded 708 deaths linked to the virus on saturday the single biggest day rise the one of those who died was just 5 years old child was said to have Underlying Health problems initially the number of intensive care patients is foreign for the 1st time the country has also reported its lowest daily rise in deaths in the lead 2 weeks thats leading to hope but its outbreak may be slowing. Health officials in iran are warning of a 2nd wave of cases if people dont follow advice to stay home despite that Industrial Facilities have been reopened in other news yemens hoofy rebels say the saudi u. A. E. Led coalition launched airstrikes on cities in the north they say warplanes launched 13 strikes in governance near the saudi border fighting has been ongoing since who feast of control of a main city last year. But the leader of britains labor party says he will work with the government to fight the growth of Virus Outbreak in the National Interest. Replaces jeremy cole been following the partys disastrous performance in decembers general election he promised to unite the party a win back last versus stop as the former shadow brags that secretary theres the headlines now lets get you back to studio b. Unscripted. Tamale youve been on the road in support of Bernie Sanders president ial primary Campaign Obama had the whole hope change thing didnt he but bernie it is more nitty gritty its more sort of its more life and death of that isnt it well bernie doesnt he doesnt say hope he says work. And then on the road with bernie ive been speaking at some of the rallies and ive been documenting a by by draw on the campaign ive also just been volunteering a lot i was in nature housing which is a government subsidized housing for low income people in new york knocking on doors and let me tell you every Single Person if we knocked on their doors there was one of 2 responses one is politics is garbage i dont vote because i might as well throw my vote into the trash this is so stupid and the other one was im voting for Bernie SandersBernie Sanders is someone who comes out of Movement Politics and at every single rally he says no president however good is actually going to be able to do this on their own they cant do it on their own what i need to get things done and also to keep me honest right is to have movements of people out in the streets putting pressure on the government to get things done people arent voting for him as a sort of abnegation of responsibility theyre voting for him because he has an incredible record of consistency and. You pretty much know that he is who he says he is and hes going to try to do the things that he says hes going to do and theyre going to keep fighting for him to do that when one of the images in 2011 that that sticks with me is the symbol germ of the they show him they show him the figure 99 percent to the headquarters of the rise the rise of building and they go you did it in the illuminator you know the illuminator they go did that give me this big thing about its here they really kind of cool American Action keep saying like its its its like its like bruce wayne man you say its like batman only there is no but he said to me that theyre almost superheroes the only superhero is going to save us is all selves and thats what that 99. 00 means its the 99 percent know that then became politics didnt it became corbin here it became series or in greece which failed it called and failed. What do we do to stop as it were this new horizontal network activist left politics just becoming the kind of last gasp of something what we do to make it go somewhere i think that horizontal Network Politics based on occupation. Its like love thats what i said right its like love and you dont make a marriage out of just the 1st gasps of passion right its Something Else too you need a lot of idle washing up as well you have to do it you have to do the washing up as well its you need you need the love right need that passion needed to get started but you also need structure and you need leaders and you need organizations and especially these when the adversaries that are in our raid against who are so well funded and are so organized and are so internationalist like there is a fascist internationalism and i think we are a moment where. Its impossible to see beyond it going eva you said fascism and people sometimes go away yeah fascism i think fascism is around a guy killed in february Kurdish People in germany because he was a fascist the Something Like 200000 people in brazil self identify as hitler supporters we have to i mean the stakes are bernie and the man you confronted in it in was a d. By the by donald trump hes not a fascist but but he is as you say enabling an International Alliance of people who want to be violent organized racists and a phobia and misogynist so a simple word in theres an almost no point how many discussion like this it unless we actually do confront the question what are we supposed to do about this. The only thing that its the politics of hate is the politics of solidarity the more the people can be sliced up into groups like them citizen you know citizen illegal alien all of these these divisions of the working class all of these divisions of working people they keep us from realizing our collective power and there is a greater enemy thats pitted against all of us and the only way that we can overcome these divisions is a thier solidarity that acknowledges the different oppressions that we face but that makes us fight for each other i mean to me in my book of call it the crisis of the neo liberal self you could say in laymans terms the crisis of the kind of pretty people we became in 30 years of worship in the market it is quite an easy spillover from if you believe the market benign lee controls your life and its impossible to 2nd guess it and you cant go against it everything the government does has to be approved by the market no to me its a no brainer that if you a bay the market for 30 years and you begin to worship it and believe it has power over your life then it fails you know the machine blows up in 2008 its a logical thing people say what else is there who i can obey. For me thats that thats the deep thing so for me solidarity. Can go 2 ways i spent you know a lot of the end of last year 2019 campaigning for labor party or in the u. K. General election and im in a lot of other people for well if we mention the fact that theres a long queues at the emergency room in british or spittles then and the government is responsible then thats one of our issues and we go to doorsteps an almost like 5050 people say yeah its terrible the conservatives cut the Health Service all the people say yeah its terrible those long queues in the emergency room because of the people who were there. The brown people the u. S. European people and also the english people who are not deserving to be that who have gone because theyve got the theres a myth that poor people go to hospital because because theyre soft you know because they cant take pain so im worried im worried the that this crisis of the self has a lot more energy to play out i want to segue a little bit to talking about refugees were living at a time where an unpleasant amount of people are being forced to leave their homes 1st by war but also by Climate Change right people who literally will have to leave their homes to avoid dying and country is that our countries that are you know safer or that are unscathed by Climate Change will have a choice right and that choice will either be to allow Free Movement into their countries or to set a concentration camps and in europe and in america the answer has been to set up concentration camps in america their concentration camps of renaults that are Holding Children children who are refugees from Central America right and once a society sets of concentration camps and whether or not you argue that society is fascist when it sets them up it is going to become fascist you cannot set up concentration camps you cannot kill people at borders without it rotting your soul i went to. Morocco before this the height of the refugee crisis but when it was when one of the main routes was. To the mediterranean and interviewed subsaharan african migrants who lived in absolutely worst conditions ive ever seen anybody live in because it was a combination of violence by the arab population against them and an extremely poor the poorest in a poor country has put it that way and i remember cinema in a patch of ground with some some bricklayers from new jersey and they said why do you come you know i mean come to new jersey and find out you know we were places where the going to be one of the most disrupted places by Climate Change the very fragile ecology we in the developed will have to get used to the fact that they are coming and not and that they are human beings everywhere we go we find the university of human existence be under threat thats what for me you know what my work is taking direction of a cold radical human ism but basically the idea that we have to defend the university of humanist i think some of the most fundamental things that weve taken for granted no im just a mile i put in my parents lives life after the war on the under threat of binge agree thats the stakes were kind of facing absolutely i mean where living at a time where someone with a good passport like me or you can travel freely across the earth you know guzzling carbon as we do and someone with a bad passport is in turn on the island and lesbos and forced says sleep in a tent in the mud. In the snow to the point where like kids freeze to death right i mean thats like a fundamental statement that the global water has made that people with rich passports are human and people who have bad passports and dont have money to you know buy extenuating circumstances are not human. In new york are a few weeks ago there was an raid by Immigration Police on latino family and in the course of the raid at the Immigration Police ice shot a man in the face who was not a man they were even looking for people from all around new york came and they surrounded the hospital and of course they were shoved away and there werent enough of them and when there arent enough of you its easy for the police to shove your way but if there are more of them if there were more of them that would be what would change things im hugely prostrated by the limitations of politics see. Politicians in this country all too low to say that one of the reasons that people so enthusiastically voted for bush johnson was that he gave them permission to be racist this is a guy he says because called kamel citizens grinning piccaninnies. And says that muslim women were in the should all look like letterboxes no no and call and you know apparently caused a spike in racist attacks when you wrote these things and said them. But if you cant admit the what the politics is doing is giving people permission to be racist if you have to theyre the doesnt matter youre not really racist you never going to be able to break through what frustrates me about politics is its euphemistic nature even though everyones trapped to the euphemism i want to this huge desire to break a bit towards a thing called truth i mean in the american context kumba but theres a difference between an intellectual and politician a politicians job is to get as many votes as they can so that they can get into power and very often the way that you get as many votes as you can is you avoid saying that perhaps people didnt just vote for a man who says that hell deport all the mexicans in america just because they had economic anxiety you know so you think you think like me the whole economic exile thing is just an excuse i think its more complicated than that i think that there is also a lot of economic anxiety environment berlin and also people are anti semites when theyre willing to blame their economic anxiety on the jews i think that in america it was proven that it wasnt actually people who were poor who were even white people who are poor who are voting for trump and that people who voted for trump but a bit more money than people who voted for clinton i think that people do have a fear of downward mobility thats based on real things. But im with you about the limits of politics and then theres another element of politics which is the limits set by the climate like even the last politician in the world cannot actually undo all of the damage that weve already done to the planet that will cause us to lose so many of the treasures of this world and so in addition to politics right in addition to someone trying to win votes you also have to make the world better yourself and thats something that you do with your hands and your neighbors right and then. As an artist or as a journalist youre allowed to say things that sometimes politicians cant. Or with other we should go to the next round of q. And a we want to ask a question hi so im with impartiality being one of the kipp pillars of journalism and both of you are journalists and both a few have Strong Political stances so on that how does your activism fit your job as fighters and do you still think that the media can and should strive for an impression of today i think that very often what has been called impartiality is actually an aesthetic where someone speaks in a measured voice and they wear a grey suit but if you look at. It if you look at how they report things you can see that its anything but impartial for instance police in america have been proven to lie again and again about what happens when they shoot someone. Yet statements by police are taken as fact by the impartial media and theyre not viewed as statements that come from a group that frequently lies and that is a sort of bias that is hidden by the gray suit and the neutral voice i think that the duty of a journalist is to truth and sometimes when you say the truth that sounds biased right sometimes when you say the truth you use strong and passionate words because that is what truth is but for me i just trouble to get it right i dont wear grey suits. I mean i was i would say. If you work for a state broadcaster or a publicly funded broadcaster in this country and in the United Kingdom you have a statutory duty to be impartial i mean and i quit because i dont think thats the primary attribute of journalism and so i. Want to be able to tell the truth by saying look for example truth trump has said racist things its also true that our Prime MinisterBoris Johnson repeatedly lied about things so if i want to say Boris Johnson is a liar. Try saying it twice saying even if youre a guest on the b. B. C. Or on regulated news let alone a reporter been a partys on a freedom be in a partisan of of the struggle against fascism and racism and xenophobia and horribly violent massage any which is coming away from your country into europe billions of pounds are being spent by misogynist groups no no no i want journalists to stand there on the front line thats what were supposed to do id like to just go back to a very interesting moments in your conversation when people asked what can we do about fascism and then molly spoke very movingly in powerfully about the title there are now concentration camps without borders it seems to me that is the question at the moment you talked a lot. About the desired spring truth into the public sphere but how can we when we faced with the kind of noise that you were talking about earlier the insane climate of racism in the areas how can we bring that truth really into the public eye and actually make a difference or it. People need to put their bodies on the line and by this i dont mean large ceremonial permitted marches where you know you go to like the center of the city and you hold your like or sign and you go home even though those marches are awesome like nothing no no no slight to them but the things that have actually stopped fascist policies and in america for instance the muslim ban was a 1st stop was people going to the airports and taxi drivers going on strike right taxi drivers who are large they muslim immigrants in new york themselves when people are willing to put their bodies in the line and peacefully use their bodies to stop the machinery of fascism that is what works in my opinion well look i would just add to that memory. Is important to some of the 1st people in europe who did that with the dutch the workers who were most of them who went on strike and destroy it you can go to the museum and see that the mimeographed leaflet and it says theyre trying to take the jews of amsterdam were striking i mean we object to for the history of the struggle against fascism those are called big heroic moments and then and then we forget the rest of it these were ordinary people and. Why i come to the conclusion is that what happened in the 1930 s. Was the emergence of something you could call anti fascist morality its not just politics it was a deep seated almost incandescent hope filled desire to what you did just said put your body between a fascist and their objective so i think it is that and how ironic is it that the in america with program we were in america if we said anti fascism thats almost because it with terrorism interims like soko anti far is it he calls them terrorist anti fascists no of think about that because all the people you celebrate from the movie casablanca right through to the history of the watergate so they were anti fascists the other thing that i would say is that the more people the more numbers of people are involved in something the last risk there is for anyone else so how do we stop fascism its massive amounts of people and people not just from the targeted group it cant just be their responsibility right but people from the groups thats like the Majority Group that privilege a powerful group mass numbers of those people peacefully peacefully putting their bodies into the into the sort of spokes of the machinery of fascism trip it up if i may just jump in as well i think there is a little bit of it that we couldnt we mustnt exonerate the socalled liberal center the liberal center in importance arent the german philosopher described fascism as when i use this term im criticized no she described as the alliance of the elite and the more. I think this is what were seeing across western society rick perry rich people and very angry poor people allied in favor of racist misogynist politics. The lesson of the 130. 00 is that is such a Strong Alliance that the only thing that works against a is an alliance of the center and the left with the centers go to want to be part of the alliance exactly where they were they overcome the cynicism and say you know what i am going to finance it. So i worked in the general election doing social media and i think an overwhelming frustration is you know how how is this engagement going to translate into votes about it books algorithms favor certain content and we exist in bubbles online and i guess my question to you is have we overestimated social media whether it be from 2011 in the arab spring and even in terms of the the upkeep of activism through black lives matter as well i think a social media is incredibly important its just not the only thing and its also its sometimes important in indirect ways for instance every single journalist is on twitter and theyre all narcissistically checking their mentions all of the time so if you have a story that you know is very very important that those journalists would not typically cover probably twitter is a really good way to get them to cover it right and then that will break it outside of the algorithmic bubble that we find ourselves trapped in social media is also a really good way to mobilize your bubble of volunteers to actually leave their homes and knock on doors and speak to other people that arent in your bubble its good for some things but it cannot be the only thing we havent explored the limits of what human beings can do in squares and streets together in a single hour in cairo in 2011 people went from saying bread is too expensive we want freedom dont with the government the people demand before all of the regime i think all of the world the people really during the fall of the regime and they know the regimes dont form into that they for in scrappy concrete strewn streets full of tear gas thats what we as humans for a lot i am convinced that large numbers of regimes will fall in the next 10 years and i hope it comes quicker. Thank you thank you thank you thank you so we were asked to give in and thought well we have to give an interview for them for because the end is coming near you want to give us with hammered on a lot about truth and about art and about solidarity and about the things that only humans can do and the final thought is that as the world is burning around us and as all of these terrible politicians are clinging on to power and as you know grassroots revolutions are being crushed we need to reconnect with ourselves and our friends and our family and the physical world and with our hands because if climate collapse happens when disaster happens the networks will not work anymore the cell phones wont work the social media will all be down and the only thing that you actually have to count on is the people that are around you and the things that you can all do together yourselves with your own hands and bodies and of all i can add to that is i come from a left tradition that faulted hard time Rosa Luxemburg the german revolution he said the revolution marches to victory through a series of defeats and Martin Luther king said the arc of the universe is long but it tends towards justice but its not long anymore weve only got 30 years to decarbonize the planet and so the ingrained mentality that we on the left have had that we we might be defeated this time but all children you know oppressed peoples always say that dont leave our children will avengers. They more nor the weve got probably 30 years these acquittal 30 years and i hope that everyone as engaged with politics as you clearly are in this audience takes strength from that because we can actually we can really wish to this plan. Thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you. Thank you thank you so much thank you. Theres no punchline to speak violence sometimes stuff is just bad pub culture is not innocent its coated with all kinds of politics the white mainstream feels that the shift is happening the nerve of the nervous i like my feminist sort of murder free. From me out. To special guests in conversation as the resistance and i see joy in the midst of pain your books do that on from page uninterrupted why are people of color and theyre just one color they like that is why they write. Exactly. Marc lamont tale i very much thought i was going to look at a bad movie studio and script dates on aljazeera. Unsurprisingly we had a big win today if this is a day which is warming out now and its come into contact with the gulf of mexico thats what produces big thunderstorms at this time heres why you tend to get the worst tornadoes are right about that the moment were just looking at this frontal system as a means of changing temperature in all the blue is typically subzero by day now things are warming out and if i were to for example pick chicago youve got the weekend fairly cold there up to 20 wrong about trying to get to choose day with sunday storms whereas course of the sunshine the cold until that point so the code is going history is warming at typically and then the front itself has been very active in the showers havent come to pass in texas but look at the californian coast here there is a spring still which takes more like a winter storm everything up to 30 centimeters just knows hes back to form the Higher Ground of california no man Central California and rain further south koreans who as you can see thats for targets in the weekend the last frontal system thats scott the few showers through cuba and his fun euro is still there it might bring a few more town to the Leeward Islands for example theres not much on that forecast chart much of the caribbean is quiet and the winds are particularly strong but it is turning quite a shower now in panama. Both the recognize the both sides have legitimate grievances do you believe the undervote is a fascist book i think dont have all been dead hard hitting debate with up front on aljazeera. The latest news as it breaks with no treatment or vaccine for her and a virus volunteers who say theyll continue to provide the services they can to fight the disease with details coverage along without any planning for indias millions of lies and quickest. And fearless journalism from around the world for many coming to this place if the only chance they have to leave at least once a day. During the org. We want to finish this war we have to get back to work the u. S. President brings in the military as many states struggle with a lack of medical equipment to combat the coronavirus. Hello im a very very good this is al jazeera live from also coming up the u. K. Records its highest day on day number of deaths from to get appealed to follow social distancing measures. 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