Made by yes minor as unbearable and racist that said ill have more news for you in half an hour stay with aljazeera coming up next its the stream thanks for watching. Welcome to a new year of the stream a live on aljazeera and im femi oke a noun lab a maze meet Driverless Cars and robot caregivers all once part of some side fly fantasy but the future is here out right now today on the street. The story of Human Evolution is one that is intimately tied to meet once we started cooking meat then we could get lots of energy and that energy enabled us to have big brains and become physically an atomic human. For many around the world to me continues to be a central part of the diet climatologists believe that farming animals for food is damaging the environment and a big contributor to Global Warming but scientists might have a solution to this environmental challenge Lab Made Meat joining us from the netherlands to talk about this we have mark post hes a professor of physiology at Maastricht University and the cofounder of muscle meat to want to several companies learning to grow cultured mate professor marc got a fascinating job you have all right what does it taste like. A case like meat because thats what it is just grown in a different way all right people going to be curious about how this actually works so we got a little bit of video from us and meat so we can show them how do you grow in vitro meat for look. Muscle tissue is a key component of the between and its first harvested in a small and harmless procedure. Next to the tissues cut into miniscule pieces to separate the muscle fibers cell. The muscle tissue consists of fat cells and muscle cells which are separated to produce cultured beat by dissecting the muscle cells individual cells can be removed and cultured the cells start dividing. Eventually from one muscle cell more than one trillion cells can be grown. To what we also Online Community with a. Lab grown meat has some of the reaction i would know what mate simply because its not even meat this is a way to die and then they eat he says as long as it tastes good and medically approved thomas why not i guess he wouldnt have to kill the poor animal as again and do jeff says yes if that a loss of cells identical to what original muscle cell then its just meat and these typical responses to this very curious idea about being able to cultivate meat and not have a live animal to do it from. Yes they in fact are so people understand what it is which is a good thing and they understand that its basically the same to shew its grown from lots of cells cells that have that come from the animal that do outside of the animal exactly the same as inside of the animal the fight and then make meat tissue. There are also concerns about Long Term Health and safety and those are natural those are natural concerns. But people have to understand that it is exactly the same tissues. And obviously when this hits the market it first has to be regulated by the f. D. A. Or my you have said here in europe so that it its absolutely safe. So its tissue but its tissue thats not growing in blot so its not really going to look great what kind of a financially well. Amberger that we made in two thousand and thirteen was mostly yellow and thats not because there was no blood but thats because it lacked a certain protein called myoglobin which is actually what colors are muscle red its not blood its its myoglobin its very similar to blood the very similar to the hemoglobin in blood but its made by muscle cells. And actually we now have a way to culture our muscle cells under low oxygen conditions so that they create that myal globe and then they look pink all right says sorry says we need sustainable scenarios to build Sustainable Future tell us how this is sustainable because one burger would cost so much right now mark. Well right now its difficult to say if we scale up production it would be about eleven dollars which is still a lot but thats with the Current Technology and that eventually is going to improve to make it cheaper the reason why meat is really unsustainable there are two reasons one is it uses a lot of resources its a very expensive component of our food and thats because cows are very very inefficient in converting dinner food into our Animal Protein and second because they are ruminants cows they do as you said earlier emit Greenhouse Gases and are really very detrimental to the environment. This needs some kind of imagination from members of the public just to get a head around the idea that meat isnt coming from a cow or a fish or normal supply of meat and theres a website bistro in vito dot com its kind of an imaginary this is the possibility of the future theres one little section that caught my eye and thats this one celebrity cuse cubes where you can eat a little bit of your celebrity you can grow it from a tissue so we can i dont know Jennifer Aniston for instance what she had to give us to have a genesis to aniston burger. I find of a little bit difficult. To accept. Because this would basically be cannibalism. And yes you could do it but i dont think anybody is waiting for this to happen so lets stick with the regular animals pigs fish chicken. And look where that gets us there is a factor involved in this that makes people a little bit queasy the idea of a meat not coming from its normal source but coming out of a tree perhaps how do you address that concern. Well there are a couple well there are a couple of reasons why i think people are a little bit queasy well as we touched upon is safety so we need to establish that its absolutely safe thats one thing the next thing is that we want to have the illusion of control over our food is being produced and despite what if you if you start a new Technology People immediately are going to imagine how its going to be implemented in society so they think of large factories in low wage countries somewhere far away with with very little control over how our food is being produced however thats not the technology itself you could do to since were all farms in a city. In a bar next to a very small farm that you can visit on sundays and see exactly how your meat is being produced and comes from so it all depends how it sort of learns in society right and then of course theres a whole cultural sort of connotation of meat with the cobbler movies and campfires and older that momentous ism around it and yes thats difficult to replace at minutely. Do you think what year do you think that. In vitro meats will be available in your supermarket or your restaurant how would you what would you guess might be that. Together with my other colleagues who are also trying to commercialize this we think that realistically in three years it will be a grassroots at a relatively high price and then it will take a couple of years for it to reach the price level so that we can get into the supermarket not to seche so much one more comment here thats coming on you tube fail life right now thats just spittle slayer says if it tastes ok and safe people from starving thank god for eight mark thank you will its free say thank you very much like to be part of the string today forcing you put out in the supermarket one day. Now aging it happens to all of us a study by the National Institutes of health u. S. Organization found the world older population is growing at an unprecedented rate today eight point five percent of people around the world are sixty five and over that percentage is projected to jump to nearly seventeen percent by twenty fifty and with aging comes a decrease in mobility and other Health Issues all of which can mean a loss of independence but could technology solve that problem joining us to talk about this we have alex me hi ladies he is a professor of Biomedical Engineering at the university of toronto and also scientific director at age well thats a government funded organization creating Real World Solutions for seniors and care give us so professor alex. What do you think is the most important part of what youre doing right now when youve been trying it out and testing it the older population test subjects what are they loving right now that you can tell us about. Well you know i think you know the most important their love right now is the possibility of remaining independent in their own homes and communities for as long as possible and thats really kind of the end goal here it doesnt matter you know whether were testing a low tech device or a high tech device to money its not support that were trying to provide to our seniors and also support to their families who are at their wits and trying to provide care often perhaps across the country and the technology really is providing opportunity for them to provide this care and to support their loved ones as much as possible so profess that we had a series of tweets from tommy and tell me jean b. And has out sinus and he says he told us too many things developed and that it is expected that People Living with disabilities will adapt to the technology not the other way round expecting a person living with dementia to adapt that is going to their views that can affect how keen they eltons the technology how are you approaching his how are you getting people with disabilities with the aging issues how you can even write down at the beginning yeah then the net this is a critical aspect we want many past technologies have failed to really provide that support so what were doing in major well with our researchers and our students and our partners is really teaching them how do and gauge seniors and caregivers right at the get go were not really looking at seniors and these individuals as you know kind of time that token older person as part of project but really making them an equal part of the research and Development Team thats been a real critical aspect of our network which as a result and some really fascinating technologies moving towards the marketplace you have a lab got a little bit of a picture if you have to put a video can explain what were seeing when we put up on the screen going to right now and we can see what weve got there in the head and what were looking at here yeah so this is our home lab here in toronto based on a Rehab Institute and this is essentially a fully simulated house so it allows us to develop. And to test our technologies you know as much as a realistic environment is possible and what you saw there was one technology thats being developed where using sensors that are built into that sofa were actually able to get a life e. C. G. From that individual and therefore get his heart rate and rather theres a logical primers without the person having remembered what that advice on how to figure out how to push the buttons or having to understand exactly how the Technology Works they go about their daily business their daily activities and we can collect those types of information to one hand on twitter says over the populations eighty. Percent technologists and culturally adapted approaches to Health Care Engagement so thats a good point absolutely and thats a critical aspect that were trying to look at were trying to address you know not just different cultures but you know the population we currently have your for example in canada we have a wide variety of various types and minorities language spoken but in addition we also have our indigenous communities we have our normal communities as well that were looking at and see how can technology play a role to connect with Health Care Services but also to help them remain in their own communities long as possible as well i know people trying to imagine what kind of work you are doing and that is a little thirty s n h well of a gentleman making a cup of tea now we his face for his privacy im just going to show people the sort of things it like you have a look at this. Whats going on there professor alex yes thats a thats a key project within our network in here in trying to look at the role of robots in the home how can we use robots to provide support in care to all the adults who may have dementia or alzheimers disease for example so that video you saw there was actually an individual with all the armors so its a real client that we work with and the robot there is providing the prompts are required to complete basic activities of daily living whether its making a cup of tea brushing your teeth getting dressed or using the toilet and you know the point of these robots are not to replace the caregivers not to replace the Family Support or contact but to provide the support when the family cannot be there to provide the support structure in those private and embarrassing activities like using the washroom where weve heard from many older adults with dementia and their families that its just such a difficult situation to be and so technology can alleviate some of that thats what were really after here i fess alex were talking about the future and what the future can bring us and intend to technology talking about ai next all to fit your intelligence sit tight because weve got a video coming out from will bailey of the United Kingdom is also working to help older people live independent lives here his thoughts on using tech to help people outside the home independent living doesnt just rely on innovations im lacking the confidence to travel can cause isolation so while the world of Assistive Technology is moving fast we still missing innovation which assists independent travel for the elderly and those with dementia thanks or is the case if we use that to better understand vulnerable travelers we can provide highly personalized information to remove the unknown from the stress of travelling or working with the n. H. S. In the u. K. On a travel assistance platform which identifies real monstrous points in any journey im on it is the journey itself to provide real time we find. And joining our discussion on ai another alex alex arqiva hes a Technology Leader futurist and coauthor of the driver in the drive this car good to have you here alex to alex its thats going to be a challenge i could do some ai just to help me out here so alex i in every day life that we may not be aware of what would you say what would you what would you. So theres just going to be many many pieces that are rolling out in the next year even that will change our lives dramatically in the u. S. Were about to enter an era of Driverless Cars and those are essentially powered by by Machine Learning by ai systems that have learned how to drive learned all of the risks of the road and now can operate autonomously the way humans used to operate or the way humans still do operate and i want to add also that this is a technology that will probably benefit the other as well because it will significantly augment their capabilities for mobility and getting around other types of ai that i think will start to see much more in the very near term and were already seeing in things like media for example the Washington Post last year wrote eight hundred fifty articles that were generated by an Artificial Intelligence system. A certain types of research around very structured data so for example sports box stores scores or Election Results or corporate results and i can write that and convey that information very easily internet into an article or even potentially a video. I also believe that in the coming year were going to see a lot more that will assist us in our finances so were already seeing bots that will advise us whether when we spent too much or will warn us if something funny is happening in our accounts and again that is also something that could help the aging tremendously because theyre very often a target of fraud so some sort of system that warns when something untoward is happening and maybe tell their loved ones it could have a dramatic impact in helping people who are older of void fraud and avoid getting ripped off to bestiality changing you want to ask alex about. Maybe well help deal with. You know and i think the thing that we all need to consider you know right from the experts and i like alex to those who are applying it in the aging population like an age well is you know. Understanding you know what it when is the right time for ai to be applied you know when do we need devices and systems that truly are you know intelligent and can be adaptable versus you know one is enough just to use a very simple device that may not use any whatsoever so i think thats a key thing that weve always been struggling with the other aspect as well is you know some of his thoughts around you know the the ethics and social cost of using a i dont Technology Well and i stand and he brought Driverless Cars as an important one and then while i agree the drivers cars you know if i can have a very strong impact on older adults are many ethical and social issues we need to understand so for example you know maybe seniors call a taxi service or driving service because they require assistance from the driver to get into the car or to transport their bags into the trunk of the car into their home of a car shows up without any driver in it whats going to happen those situations so these are all things that you know they need to really consider moving forward. Alex Big Questions like the f. A. A. Do you think think about that are you just thinking about the science. Yeah i think for tremendous component of this because i mean really when were taking care of our loved ones who are older its a question of you know are we giving them some of our log when were spending time with them as as humans and at the same time as a society its pretty clear that we have refused to put an economic value on that time i mean in the us at least caregivers are wildly underpaid theres a shortage of them its dirty dangerous work high injury rates so at least in terms of looking at the market the verdict is in that you know it may be the ethical path would be much more Human Interaction with people as they age but its just not happening so we need to think really hard about how we can give people who are aging what they need you know to survive and thrive and i think that professor alex is point its actually going to be a spectrum of things which will see you know some maybe fully i and robotics some maybe some of the services were seeing now where theres actually a human being that is interacting with an elderly person by a tablet and they may be working remotely and watching whats happening not every minute but when theres activity or if they hear a noise or if they get a question so i think youll see a pretty wide spectrum but at the very core of it i think that i will start to challenge our ideas of what is human what is ai and how to merge i mean in some ways ai can be better ethically than humans imagine for example in my life massacre where if that had been robots and we had said dont shoot women or children full stop that probably that wouldnt happen so its just a really new i thats a quite terrifying the idea of robots being deciding who theyre going to kill and who theyre not going to kill the baby at that scary point hes just on twitter just a says i wonder if theres any measure of finding out how much ai could benefit society and how much it could damage society if still so used incorrectly. Its a fabulous question i dont think theres any real measure i think that looking at how much for your ai has instilled in some of the berry smart people including you on mosque Stephen Hawking bill gates all of them are afraid of superhuman a on an ai thats much smarter than us and what impact that could have i also think that to professor alexs point it can erode the little bits and interactions which make us human and make the wife rich and work a living so i think its something we have to look at very very clearly and with my eyes wide open at the same time its important understand weve been existing with or with it for quite a while yet when you get a Credit Report or a mortgage theres an ai system algorithmic in the background thats analyzing you when youre sick the internet and ads are served to you theres a i interacting with it so i mean to a large degree were already in the world its more just thats not sircars than in our in our faces is its going to be the future and i mean just being syfy into the conversation safia is the first rival to have gained citizenship in saudi arabia she was developed by dave hanson of handsome vet baltics and hes on the child the jimmy fallon show in the us havent oh well jimi would you like to play a game of Rock Paper Scissors style. Ok lets get this game going show me your hand to start Rock Paper Scissors shoot. I want this is my time to talk about this you know nine. Were. Just kidding yeah. You are incredible its so nice to me is a fear thank you jimmy friend me on facebook. So you got the engaging get spam down for us alex im just wondering well what the role of robots like sophia might be taking in cancun having full v. L. Today yeah i think robots are going to play significant role in providing support and care and in ongoing stimulation told are adults moving forward however you know research has shown though that you know we do not need robots not sophisticated looking and you know having a robot myth may just be as simple as having a screen on top the top of a moving base may just be enough that and even when we talk to older adults who have even quite moderate or severe all dharmas these dont realize what theyre dealing with they all realize theyre interacting with some kind of machine and so trying to hide that fact by making huge robots look more and more human and act more more human and actually not be the answer more of the way forward and even how many times the morse miscue robots are quite cost prohibitive about as we all know as well so you know Something Like that we just saw in that clip i dont see playing a role any time soon in the home of an older adult but a simple robot i can see happen in the next several years ive got a little bit of cynicism half in the you chief audience that never happens miss a sentence says i heard this story thirty years ago alex what makes this technology feasible ai has been oversold over the yes in the last few moments is that chad what would you say to push back. So first of all you are correct this technology has been oversold on the other hand the last ten years have seen dramatic improvements in key facets of ai around boyce recognition speech recognition conversational capability things that are really crucial to interacting with people who are elderly and that will make it a much better experience today than it was. Could have been ten fifteen twenty years ago theres a confluence of things that have brought that about a lot more data to train Artificial Intelligence systems much cheaper system better connectivity we didnt have tablets that could connect wirelessly anywhere in the world and. So i think that the professor i would push back from there i sat right there and alex will write the end of the show ive got one more comment hafe and b. B. 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