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The capital islamabad now at least six people have been killed and more than two hundred injured the demonstrators what the law minister to step down now theyre angry because he admitted a reference to the prophet mohammed and the parliament rebuilt. The house will from him but job. Government had to call in the military in aid of the Chilean Administration but the military made it quite clear that while they take care of. That. Theyre in no mood to get involved with the protests or try to control those protesters because the government had enough. Of Security Forces personnel its a huge failure on the part of the government because rendition. Was being packed up when the police moved in. And people right now there are people and if they were demanding the resignation of the law minister now theyre saying the whole cabinet has to be dead dogs are not going anywhere theyre going to be burying their dead today and theyre going to be more. But it appears that ship million government doesnt know what to do because the court had ordered them that their writ of the state was being challenged and the billion government capable of looking after its own affairs the military saying that while they were to take care of the installation and certainly not in a mood to get into a fight with the protector along the streets across pockets on. The u. S. Is also warning pakistan the decision to release the key suspect in the two thousand and eight mumbai attacks will strain relations lushington says office aid is being freed because the pakistani government failed to provide evidence against him say it has denied involvement to the attacks which killed one hundred sixty six people. Polls have opened a new poll which is holding the first phase of federal and state elections its a major part of the ongoing process to overhaul the political system the voters causing tension amongst families and close knit communities surveyed the shastra has more from one district. In bragger village in my district on the famous on a put a circuit in the park but this flags fly along with flags of Political Parties the stars of Nepali Congress and the Democratic Alliance and the son of the hammer and sickle of the Left Alliance in the small village everyone is related to each other because of its remoteness and distance from the capital in the past the community had a common identity and decisions were made unanimously now that mainstream politics has been thrown into the mix family relationships are strained clamoring groom has come all the way from got money to vote he and his wife cimi dont want to stay with anyone if we vote for either side or they would get opposite the two of was devote. Both sides are relatives whoever wins i hope they develop the district as all the hotels are aligned to one party or the other they will spend the next few days in a town out. Lexical uncoupled many of the voters from london live in the capital and have made the difficult journey to exercise their democratic right one candidate will represent this district in the National Assembly and two in the state assembly one man district has the smallest electorate with just five thousand eight hundred eighty one registered voters and before winter rice the first phase of the election is being held in the hills and mountains where climate and geography can both be challenging the second phase will be held on the seventh of december in more moderate climate district officials in milan have deployed more than six hundred security personnel nationally that figure is around two hundred fifty thousand already to other not only to the ground without enough they goes with the Ground Clearance of mobile force might not be able to strike on time and we are fully prepared otherwise. Be rest assured that the upcoming federal and state assembly and action will be held in a free and fair manner voting will end by five p. M. Local time but ballots wont be counted until the entire nation goes to poll which means for the next ten days the tension among family members here is likely to continue to aljazeera manon district in the past flights on the indonesian island of bali have been disrupted after all kaner erupted about angles and smoke and ash fifteen hundred metres into the sky about twenty five thousand people have been unable to return to their homes since september when the mountain showed signs of activity for the first time in more than fifty years ill be back with more news in thirty minutes next its child soldiers reloaded. We will maintain the finest fighting force of the world has ever known the world has ever known the world has ever known will never know its over and i dont personally have any difficulty with most of it i just dont like the image that it conjures up in most peoples money. Its like any other thing in the Global Finance its just the military trade. Contractors dont like our time around. My dad because you. Are missing young government perspective the iraqi group and was considered a good deal. Not be the article you were on yeah its more like thirty years quickly. We have a mismatch between the way we are magic war to be and the reality of the twenty First Century can we do a little or can we find someone as we do it for boardroom dont you get what you pay for. B. B. C. World service and u. S. Troops have left iraq ok continues to maintain a high passes in the country with the largest u. S. Embassy in the world the situation in afghanistan the center for crucial for the International Troops to go under control over to the Afghan Forces fish if youre just attrition really critical in the country. Says without America Today we are stuck by my hard on something and youre right. This is a man says he was. So young i thought if i was this other funds or friends most of these guys some of them they are already out there on that. Day now father and son right now down there tonight yeah. How many of the persons that youre sending out to. Your child soldiers and the like on seven i can tell i can tell you that i mean if you think i cant i cant. I cant tell you dealing with the many people im going to say this and this this. New president you inspecting you know. If you. Do you report to our yeah yeah. Yeah yeah. Really whats. The real thing well. Enough look at your. Even by your for. You learn how to fight. Tradition if you dont know for it with a stick from the spear with arrows. Thats the tradition so if youre trying to simulate this from a disoriented them say well it could im sure but that isnt the case so maybe critical of people who used to be fighting when they were very young that they all go to war you visit thats a problem not us not a problem for us mother from. The particulars not from an absence of us have. And even if they had started when they would fulfill it and thirty that thats not a problem wasnt a problem just as the job as they are here is kyra yeah. Let me send guys whatever yes we fasted for and then they got the school fees got physical training. I mean i never got my summit on resorted to using because of the ideas being that people go isnt what you tell me this is what they do i need to understand english. Gun to shoot those who gunfight me going right. Good Companies Risk on common contract as we stop im on board for them. Or example im dealing with it its for someone time. The private military industry is a part of how the country is in fights wars today. U. S. Government doesnt track the number of contractors it uses in places iraq or afghanistan we know its a lot we dont really know exactly how many. I spent several years working within the industry i have a military background and one of the differences between being a soldier i found and being a private military contractor is that when you work for the u. S. Military or any military you take a sacred oath that youre going to serve and fight for your country and necessary die to protect a way of life one that you believe in i am an american soldier im a warrior and a member of it seems. Like. I will never accept defeat. Me i will never win i will never leave a fallen comrade its the complete opposite in a private military world you look at the budget first the loyalty of these companies and these business men and change depending on market forces. We operate in the worlds challenging complex emerging markets the middle east is absolutely the core for a business today. The sooner we can are me and palin we perform we do the right you know. This industry is not just what you see is what you get. When you see a company you dont know exactly whos working for them they hire and they sometimes create what we call subs sub contractors. Theres been commanders in afghanistan who just simply say we dont know who the subs of the subs subs are. So you have all these like layers of a contract. A level of forty control starts to fade quickly the deeper you go from the top to the bottom. United states army and the military in general is so reliant on the private sector i would call it a dependency but we dont know whos the on the ground presence of these Companies Overseas we just dont know. Crazy or not surely its really crazy in iraq. Because since the feds the ice that my fits in iraq every did that was a bomb and they bombed a village that is a rockets. Every day we have rockets fired. Every day i had gunshots every day a bomb in income in income in all my good if someones you know lets use damage for all of our god for all of the civil union guys well trained guys. As soon as i originally rock i called my mom i said mom im in iraq she said oh. I said im in iraq no no youre kidding i said no moment not kidding im in iraq i said mom just watch the number whats the number and she watched the number. She was she was just she was yelling oh that is what i said no mom there is no problem here we are saved we are not using weapons we are you here is does our i convinced my mom i said we are doing just domestic walk in iraq she told all the neighbors around so my son hes in iraq you know hes doing. Cooking job not with weapons. Just after the war and say well you know i couldnt make it up because there was no job by then. And my friend calls me its all me thats a. Very civic and c they were recruiting guys socalled so its also iraq that you just use weapons and we are well trained and it come from comply on. The first time i arrived to to this Training Camp compliant iraq together with that to two white men fan from the security company. Went driving out in this small truck and swats towards the camp through this forest a landscape not so far away from from the airport and when we enter the camp and get out of the car the first thing we see is this a gunman instructor who isnt shots of the training out there making the recruits lined up in order to receive these guys from the past security company. Came from iraq. With not came from iraq you said that he needed. They were a shallow fighter who supposed to go to iraq see not you know. Weapons uses only people that. Are fighting between iraq. From his young government that there is. It was considered a quite good deal in the sense that they could actually take no good troublemakers something away to back for a couple of years and then returning them after two years with money and from that overseas deployment this could surf to stabilize security. And the beginning of the training cost of another real weapons presence so they were using the wooden sticks. It was first after a couple of days and so the training that the weapons and the will being lined up at the tables within in the middle of the big camp. It was this tension and excitement those attention mainly because now its actually getting into something very real. For many of the recruits isnt the first time holding a weapon since the ending of the civil war. Many were starting to shake and some were even starting to cry when the when the su got the weapons not being able to to handle a. Compliant backing for iraq. I mean what has come. From the fast as the weeping for those of to know when im seeing these men and something. Most of them are now something. Of a device. To have born again. Ive. Walked on. My life where point. This young and what has been flipped mainly by young converts and. If youre looking for young men to perform military jobs the chance of a quite good that they have also been. Owes it to. You never can mean i think that actually. It took my fight i remember any putting on the floor. As a nice report i will grant you i will close my heart to. Two people or holy shouldnt do you do on look like just want to know what. You know if he was still with me to go he would give you a glimpse they fatuous us you know i dont know whats right whats he talking about. So i was sure enough to keep. Right. No. No no. No. Need to. Be all good and ive got to show you died to have the money put it on the person if not god every day remember me to know ive seen my father whom i want i who next i get i would keep. This its little im going to. Go. I said no i dont want a tree so i start to i go to this thats a used unless. Stuck in my boat. My boat is that bond and i. Can drop just as it cried for water but the gun makes you forget about you or your motor so i start says. When i was young. At a lot of things that ive been scindia. A lot of. Which is no good for you monday. Because. Of the job you have you come on down. On how we have to do it by denny dont you two have been killed. When we think of war and the war youre right so we have this image and our mind of a man in uniform. And uniform means theyre fighting as part of the military serving the nation the cause of they fight for their force political patriotism and yet when you look at the wars of the twenty First Century they dont match those assumptions anymore now we have outsourced a lot of our warfare to private military companies. The background of this changing nature of war and fights that dates back to the very start of the private military industry itself as. Up until the early ninetys the private Security Industry isnt dr mackey industry. Outright must mean to bring down governments for the cash can you explain what exactly sound fine internationally is and what you do in a. Sunline. It is a company that provides military Consultancy Services for governments or large corporations. At the time the idea was to get very harsh english officers on top of these private military companies and tim spicer was an officer in the military and British Military he got out and was asked to come help with a Company Called sandline. To spices a rival gave an almost instant sense of respectability to what had previously been a mess in the world and i dont personally have any difficulty with what must be i just dont like the image that it comes out in most peoples mind the first time i met tims vice i was interviewing him for a newspaper. In charming Public School educated gods office and that medievals it must be a feature they construe before and it changed the Agenda Global agenda on what the problem is your company was. Tim spicer was considered a respectable head of a mercenary organization but at first his Business Affairs didnt go to well it was dogged by failure for example he got a phone call from a fellow indian with a thai passport who was under house arrest. For a financial scandal and he contacted tim spicer and wanted him to restore the president of sierra leone. Once the president surely it was back in power this guy would then get his contracts for diamonds and be able to make money. But it didnt work out that way. The Company Satellite run by chip spicers for the army colonel hundred just occasioned by customs and excise that is accused just smuggling weapons illegally. When a private firm gets involved in foreign politics for the benefit of a criminal you have to stop and ask ok this really happened or is this a fictitious you know james bond type story but it was a true story. These things tended to happen systems the government runs that hed always somehow managed to get signed the recently retired british guy who had a band of ministers is safely back in this country so has this put him up his new career as a hired gun going to continue with this new new business of yours Sandline International well i think weve got to a number of lessons to learn from this particular. Episode i think that we will continue to try and develop our business as long as we can do it in a. Sensible way. Sandline eventually collapsed under the weight of bad publicity. Was that to say yes in the short term you can say that was not a Successful Company in terms of delivering enormous amounts of money to the shelves and so forth to firstly. It launched him spice on a career where he was able to found what would then become one of the significant for the Movie Companies in the world. He just. Short films of hope. And inspiration. A series of short personal stories that highlight the human triumph against the odds. Aljazeera selects at this time. With over forty thousand People Killed under his rule it took twenty five years to bring him to a court of law. But why for so long was such a brutal dictator considered an ally of the west who are not reporting to the congress that to the press they were engaged in a clandestine local aljazeera unravels the history of chads notorious former president the same habit a dictator on trial at this time on aljazeera. You want you all to their arms the whole raman these are all top stories pakistan has asked the military to help as Police Struggle to disperse hundreds of protesters in the capital islamabad the demonstrators want the law minister to step down now theyre angry because he admitted a reference to the prophet mohammed in a parliamentary bill has more from the heart in punjab its a huge failure on the part of the government big old rendition broad gauge widely being packed up when the police moved in it would be brought in right now theyre all. Well and if they were demanding the resignation of the law minister now theyre saying the whole cabinet has to be a dead dog are not going anywhere theyre going to be burying their dead today and theyre going to be in more. Well staying in pakistan the u. S. Is warning that the decision to release the key suspect in the two thousand and eight one biotechs will strain relations washington says half is saying it is being freed because the pakistani government failed to provide evidence against him say those denied involvement in the attacks which saw one hundred sixty six People Killed. Two people have died and two other seriously injured in a factory explosion in eastern china at least thirty people have been taken to hospital after the blast in. Chinas state News Agency Says some nearby buildings also collapsed german chancellor Angela Merkel has spoken out against a return to the polls and reiterated her desire to form a new Government Coalition talks between merkels conservative block and two smaller parties collapsed last week but she now says she hopes to pull a government together soon after the opposition social democrats agreed to more to go she ations journalist went to the polls in september. Theres a. Very nice so in the next election we must do better we must have solved more problems than we have today it is with this in mind that we must evaluate possible talks with the social democrats of course were prepared to talk but talks can only be conducted on the basis of Mutual Respect that must be clear. Flights on the indonesian island of bali have been disrupted after a volcano erupted for the second time in a week and angles and smoke and ash fifteen hundred meters into the sky about twenty five thousand locals have been unable to return to their homes since september those were the News Headlines for the body there is here in thirty minutes with more we return now to child soldiers reloaded. When nine eleven occurred everything changed. The contractor content of the armed forces went up astronomically at this hour american and Coalition Forces are in the early stages of military operations to disarm iraq. Ideologically republicans my party wanted every single Public Function to be scrutinized analyzed evaluated and if possible privatized general shinseki the head of the us army at the time testified to congress and said if were going to do iraq its going to take several hundred thousand u. S. Troops and very quickly the rest of the Bush Administration reacted negatively and hes absurd thats crazy its not going to require those amount of troops and they actually simply drummed him out of the military it turned out he was right we did deploy several hundred thousand forces it was just through private military. So in the early days of iraq it was a gold rush you had companies coming out of nowhere including blackwater who was really like a cowboy a wild wild west where nobody had any control anybody doing anything with firearms in this country to say their private military company. Was an a. T. M. For these companies well the basic idea of a contractor versus recruiting. Training in supporting military vets is that there is room hiring a prostitute or getting married. So instead of a soldier who has an x. Cost of a year now being a contractor whos being paid eight times ten. Well what has happened is that america has basically married a prostitute and has been active in them for a very long period of time theres a lot to do with. You to keep with you its not invade a country is going to be a. Good. Thing but not if you think you know if you just go to run ok im working with you on this and we will go wrong movies or its very. Contractors offer some grey area benefits to politicians everybodys concerned like we have a thousand boots the ground nobody ever asks how many contractors there is dont like our boots on the ground. Here so if the u. S. Military wanted to put one thousand kids in the ground and theres four thousand contractors its a way of you know having for some five thousand but without politically risk. That. Should mean. Theyre shooting at you next to you yes yeah it was. You. Can bang bang so did did you get a skirt shoot for that shine for you know a ricochet to his car. And thats exactly. What i might do something right for. The Security Companies had the sensitivity of something as civilians would often if not always. Get caught in the crossfire. What governments have always done is they would do two things at once. You fight and you win hearts and minds. Private and she took it didnt do that. Try this comes on the ground opening fire they were very very noticeable they would play rock music that in this was not there was no subtlety to this this is not a even the military with most discreet than the top Security Companies and so they were as they were very very public slap in the face for the average iraqi on a daily basis. To a real problem for the military so we sell the contractor presence in iraq in particular but afghanistan too was becoming contrary to what the mission was for the armed forces there for their presence was more danger than it was help. Oh yeah. Every turn around the traffic circle. Theyre probably trying to get away. From the problem was that we had all of these different private military Companies Running around we outsourced too quickly and they work or needed both in contract terms but also in on the Ground Operational terms so what is your answer to a problem of outsourcing. Outsource more we outsourced it to a private military company to coordinate. These uses contracts in iraq and was to oversee the communication and coordination for all of the privacy of your companies on the ground. Been affected meant that they were the general in charge of all of the private contractors. Now that point the us military was the largest machine presence in iraq but if you added together all of the private military contractors spies was effectively in charge of the second largest on force in iraq. The presence in iraq was relatively standard for years one. Video which was posted on you tube from a contractor who is. Following a gun while playing rock music. On its way. But no legal actions were taken. Very rapidly each is such a machine huge company. And it made to spy certain extremely healthy now and. The majority of americans now think it was a mistake to go to war in iraq public support for the war is falling war americans want the troops to come home. In a brief ceremony on a base on the edge of baghdad the United States took down the flag of its command here to mark the end of the military mission. The u. S. Money was starting to be pulled out of the iraqi. Field operations and the industry had to go through a very complicated reset. Those companies had to realize that they werent going to get that level of money again and so they had to offer different. Deals. That meant they would have to hire cheap the soldiers. Let me. Know when the loophole to war. And. So on. And. On and. Of my. Angst what you mean. In the initial story could see. It be it long sleeve i could see. Them would. Be. People how. Innocent people. Sometimes they will give you just. Shot. Even if you can breathe. A little whatsoever the person can feel it more than the experts you know the. Story the life. Thats for when i was just. Work undertaken by you just is carried out to the highest standards of fractional competence and integrity when we first started into theater we were briefed on peruvian and colombian guards and the natural question you ask is so what do you pay for these folks and you know at the time and im playing off memory cells but im pretty good at that that was about a thousand to twelve hundred dollars and them oh i dont know six months a year ago it became. God and guards at about eight hundred dollars a month and we dont ask the question of Security Companies because of those lowest price technically acceptable rushed to the bottom thats what some call it. Why why oh god its now versus proving some colombians i said we dont have chance to get the award unless we use of condoms because there are two to four hundred dollars less him out on this most recent trip that the company that is winning all the awards that had this lets first start heard of well weve got a good strategy were using Sierra Leonean and so you ask the question so so what are we paying informants but two hundred fifty dollars a month. You know i guess rhetorically i dont expect to be answered you know can we go lower could we find someone its like well do it for boardroom you know that has such a terrible country that maybe theyll just go out of the country and be a Free Security guard i mean thats pretty inexpensive i say that it sounds facetious but its real. No you get what you pay for. The original goal was not to bring soldiers or exogenous from the poorest countries on earth but the us system requires that you pick the lowest bidder so that became the status quo in iraq to have multiple layers of foreigners as long as youre in the army and you meet certain criteria and sometimes you dont have to be in the army to meet this criteria. Companies self interest is different than National Self Interest Companies are profit maximizes what they do thats natural. Right now. What do you do if you know you have somebody from the philippines working for an American Private military company in afghanistan who kills somebody what jurisdiction does that person fall under we dont know. In about fifteen countries ive been involved in programs to reintegrate children who have served in armed forces. Its a contradiction in terms on the one hand western countries have pumped large sums of money into the reintegration of former child soldiers but now we have governments like us supporting these socalled Security Companies that recruit people and continue their exposure to violence and cement their identities as perpetrators of violence and as soldiers that make it impossible to ever reintegrate into civilian life. At one time when the came into account kill a lot of. Hours on top of the time. Looking down we had to explain. I think about doing when people are dying on the street. Explosions all over the city and i. Had a gunshot had a bomb or watch a very explosion i think about my going to watch happens every four. When he brought you not. The first team for. Iraqi. And intended to become. Full force. The. The. Shots and i remember. The walk and this is whats happened in sudan you see. You know. People running to come you cant be. Fighting for whats our lights or what have you fighting for you that. I feel is that you often dont use you know its not good but because the one. Justice you dont have to. It may seem like an act of free well it is not young people in sierra leone have no jobs theyre desperate to feed themselves and their families and result is that it becomes harder and harder to ever find their way back into civilian life and they may plant seeds of violence wherever they go. It is well known that young people who have extensive histories of violence and being fed drugs and manipulated over time they develop problems of impulsivity high levels of aggression. You know we pride ourselves on being a moral people trying to do the right thing what were doing is were exploiting people using young people who have been child soldiers deliberately sending them into the jaws of combat and further violence nothing could be worse for these young people nothing could be worse for security. Theres a close connection between this industry and policy makers. These private military firms really poach retired general officers and from the armed forces. Because they have connections. I say that it sounds facetious its real. You know you get what you pay. For the Security Industry will continue to act. Youre going to see five companies. That. People care a lot when and if a dead soldier or dead marine shows up in this country and we start asking ourselves why did they die why did what were they fighting for nobody bothers to ask about that contractors. Every american who serves joins an unbroken line of heroes i am awed by their sacrifice. When in good time and not allowing thing im going i lie im going to im not im not you when you bag you in kind of what i mean had thermal coming in the family unit know who to be got him on to me what they need to guide him. Theres no one going to go out and protest in the streets of a contractors kill. Country still exercises its Foreign Policy the use of force and violence in these four regions but is using proxies contractors third Country Nationals and in obscurity their role. You think it is that youre getting the full right i just wish here well end up in afghanistan its really your money and your tax money. Doing it but make sure the politicians dont get in trouble. Private military contractors makes a decision to go to war a lot easier. As part of ending a war responsibly is standing by those will fund it. Hello there is more cloud to show still around the caucasus iran afghanistan as you know the season has broken through has weve got some is talk about not just temperatures and wind direction rain is likely to fall in one or two places it is disappearing who took my stance to afghanistan the hindu kush will be significant snow but its returning slowly further west now this is a particularly benevolent day baghdad baghdad at fifty is a very warm with cloud it will be very sunny either but it has been worse there is more rain coming in slowly make it into the eastern med but it leaves a couple of days of fine if weather but watch whats happening to us or iraq in the western side of iran down towards q a twenty one degrees represents a temp ship bit of a drop the green represents forecast rain so we start on sunday fine theres a bit of a breeze from dives for the gulf for back rain and qatars bid notice and not be particularly warm by day twenty seven is not for high this time of the year rather better in mecca with thirty two about the time we get to monday the chances are we want to show the northeast society slowly heading south is the right time of year its happening again same is true in Southern Africa weve seen a lot of rain recently in south africa is just across the southern mozambique. Africa is going through seismic changes few country stands out because its considered so successful why is the. President of ghana nonna a coup for i dont talk to all jews here. At this time. I really felt liberated as a journalist was all about getting to the truth as i would thats what this job to the. Young rich and famous in china one of the news goes behind the great chinese fire wall to meet the cyber celebs of a booming multibillion dollar business. But this time on aljazeera. Several People Killed in running street battles in pakistan as please