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Baghdad had asked for legal clarification after what it called a misinterpretation of the constitution by kurdish leaders. Talk to al jazeera thats next on counting the cost black gold big dreams and a mega city in the desert why saudi arabia is pinning its hopes on a ram culture futureproof its economy to raise or not to raise a big decision for the bank of england and talking turkey the challenges behind its strong recovery counting the cost at this time on aljazeera. You can. See. Has been described in kenya politics and you cant possibly talk about politics in canada without mentioning the name. The for the presidency for. Victory in three elections in the Current Crisis he will not rest until they are russian president ial elections he talked or does it. Welcome to talk to. You have been reacting to the results of that on the election which you have rejected and said that the election should not be allowed under any circumstances what reasons for the. Election. In other words you know they never took place. And. Should not be allowed to stand because. Youve a very bad example to our future generation were watching whats happening. Is this really elections is this how elections should be held in africa. Should. Be judged by a lower standard compared to the rest of the world. And thats the reason why we said that we want to be the people who will do away with the election rigging on the african continent to show that African People is a better standard than or to seeing right now but you boys courted the selections voluntarily used to do in front of the media and said you were withdrawing from the election process and you of all people should. Not be allowed to pass any judgment on an election that you quit on your own is precisely because drew that this is actions should not without has done as you know. Then through the Supreme Court i challenge the Election Results of the elections of the eighth of august and we provided sufficient evidence that there was must be rigging those elections the Supreme Court agreed with us and said that those elections were not held in accordance with the constitution and the laws of the country and directed the lives of commission to undo it and this is that there were irregularities and illegalities which needed to be addressed on that basis we came out and prepared a twelve point document he called the use of a minimum conditions that needed to be implemented to ensure that there was a level Playing Field to avoid a repeat of what happened if they were asked the legs of commission refused to respond positively to those point you raised then realized that the gun was not level. Going back to the election really going to going for a repeat that is doing the same thing same way expecting different results and we said that it was a sure and it was going to be a waste of time and the rest of our resources on that basis we decided to pull out of the elections in spite of that Electoral Commission still went ahead and put their names on the ballot paper but not only that one of the seven commissioners. Was in a county resigned. Ten days to the election. Cycle of fled the country setting in security and threaten say that Electoral Commission cannot provide free and Fair Elections you went to the Supreme Court challenging the results of the august eighth elections the Supreme Court in its verdict agreed with some of the issues you had raised in court and nullified the elections but again in its verdict said it is the current Electoral Commission as constituted would be holding the elections in sixty days you knew what you were getting into from the onset mr odinga didnt you know theres a direct and the Electoral Commission to do a repeat porn. In line with the constitution and the laws of the country and to address the legalities and the regular duties which had been discovered but they were not specific in saying who should be blamed and who should handle but they say the current Electoral Commission should organize elections within sixty days correct in sixty days in accordance with the rules and to have burst irregularities and illegalities. So now the did to us now live to the Election Commission and we had then to fight those duties. As we had one of the contentious issues was the printing of little materials including the butter papers which had been given to a company in dubai called what i. And rich came up with a lot of dubious materials. Found to not to comply with these positions there on was that just mission of the results what you call the kims. System kenya. Integrated electronic moneyman system which was set up by a French Company called or team of. Then the other one the officials some of them who were committed perjury in the courts by swearing forms of it of its those who had hopped into the system and had posted forces outs and this had been discovered through verification had been ordered by the courts in the the other officials but it was the i. C. T. Manager who had refused to comply with a court order to allow experts access to the server so that he could inspect the results of the of the elections as contained in this. Then there was the head of the. Electoral commission itself who had committed. What are you getting that on results you say the numbers dont add up what proof do you have. Well ive got the reports from a. B. C. Already been called whistleblowers within the a. B. C. Those who theres a funny come which was the Major Service provider who did the mission of Telecommunication Company human exactly the Communication Company the Service Providers there was a very calm the orange and the. Transmitting the ruling party say one of the reasons for the law tun out was because people. Stopped from going to the polling stations roads and highways were closed by your supporters and that you and your party actually took part in acts of sabotage to support i did and actions. Went on Live Television interview and my support us not to turn up to vote but not to stop anybody who was wanted to go and vote but as you know voting in this country is voluntary it is not mandatory like countries like australia so people can decide not to go and vote you can decide to do a position just to express their anger at the community that was being exercised by the government and the commission. There exists of deployment of the good forces around their places of residence that is of friends people the noise from those youth who are busy confronting the security agencies no they were not doing all of that i was at kabira the Olympic Primary School where some of your supporters. Broke through the wall the destroyed the wall forced and set fire on the classrooms and police had to use the water comes to put it out it was done in your name start your work the school. Has broken the called rail or the Integration Center i sponsored the school i built it myself but then there were Security Officers inside so the youth really fighting with the security of his us they were not blocking anybody from going to vote on the government have to do what it had to do to ensure voting took place is im saying that people. Saying that theres a confrontation of causes and this is not really pressing it but i want to blame the government for over deployment of Security Forces in here you can see the burn like there was a dinner boycott of the elections and they will say that it is wrong to try to attribute this to interference the turnout was thirty eight plus percent say this he got that Electoral Commission says president hu looking at again at more than seven million votes thats not very far from the mark of what he got in the august eighth elections from the records as you know and even from the medias own story around the country did you turn it was pretty low and you surprised that in the end this is that seventy percent of the people would you said that you whats harming you are National Support Alliance Coalition into a resistance movement. And you will be cutting out acts of civil disobedience what do you want to achieve if were talking about peaceful resistance to authoritarianism. You know to talk about resistance or the use of us there was a that we did tests vallance thats a way of bringing about change in the country youre saying more protests on the streets of the may just cities of this country which would result in violence automatically because as its known to be you know clashes between the police and your supporters at this is just hot in this country im studying why dont you just agree and accept that youve been outsmarted and move on or not talked about and im talking about non violent means of bringing about change in this country. Mentioned constitution in the human rights section. Talked about their rights to do in streets. To picket the ride to protest the riot. Court and the right to petition all this perfectly legal so. The vernons is never made it out by the members of the public it is the thirtys who instead of providing security to the people who want every notified that youre going to do position usually to use of violence against innocent people these protests are not. Just protests there a continuation of a process that started way back in june and the economy is suffering to resume is at an all time low people are losing their jobs why do you want to drag the country through you know even a number longer to the political process this is the easy option we see where the government wont accept and move on then have a next time next time they will be completely up but in this country no kenyans would turn up to vote at all and this is what deeds would you call lead floor or took us to the african continent there are no countries in this continent where the election counted ten percent the door twenty percent of the population turned up to vote and the president will get ninety percent of the vote because he is running alone this is what has happened here for example this is not what you want who earned a vibrant democracy country so we concerned about violence and the loss of life of our people for the same time we must converse for change in this society you cannot accept this kind of imposition of leadership on the people because otherwise our democracy is going to collapse and its really a duty not only to ourselves but to the future generation. Or country next time i will not be a cottage but then there are the candidates and. Theres going to sever the same feet. Are you saying you will be satisfied with just reforms in the Electoral Commission and what you call electoral justice and was not is done you will define and continue with your life we this country is bigger than all of us but at the same time we must conclude this electoral cycle it is not is concluded the Electoral Commission says it is going into them where you have to repeat it and this is pretty and bungled it again like the bungled the first one is where it is still an Unfinished Business it is not done until its done unto you being unfair to the millions who turned out to vote on that and sixth of october assuming. Seven point four million votes which annoyed enough to get and they got three point five million still. Turf a million claimants who did not vote for him on that particular day those who really know voted for him are more than those who voted for i think it is that the unity that im talking of on his behalf of talking and i think that the majority this is to be. Listen to your opponents describe you as a certain loser a man who never accepts defeat. I dont really care what this year about me because i dont expect them to compliment. In twenty thirteen what happened in this in turn to seventeen exactly what happened we went to court the course say that evidence was produced late. Were doing it is because the evidence and then we went on to our the big three to open it and we said we dont agree but we respect the ruling of the Supreme Court and supporters not to protest so what youre saying you can never be called as a nuisance so what youre saying is you contested four times and youve been robbed of what you call a victory three times three times some must say a lot about you to this yeah im just saying. Just because a loading is a hungry. Being i just want to see democracy properly established in our country either we have a talk. Or elections. Incumbents. Do them after every five years and just change themselves. To competition where theres a possibility of the opponent to also win president who can unite and william brutal say that they well theyre ready to dialogue with you theyre not ready to discuss something outside the current constitution this sets the stage for confrontation doesnt it given what youve called for the protests and the demos and the picketing seen as a route to seeing is really to discuss with me my time and package. Them and package is in the constitution and in the law i dont need any kind of food is in for mr root. Pockets refused to give it to me since. The plan minister of this country. But that is a subject for another day here talking about electoral justice and it is not sticking around talking on behalf of millions of the people of this country who. They have taken the links to a commission hostage theyre basically running against themselves for the telling that theyre won fair and square. They were the only players you know that if only the players. Confessed to by the chairman of the little commission and says you will cut he had told me that it was going to a petition theres a pretty good for a thing of time or it was going to resign which he didnt know either yes to do that theres a threat to his life. And because of that he had to do what he had to do but we have to you know weve not prove that studying a but just to jog your memory the Electoral Commission before the current one you had a big problem with and you hound of them out of office with demonstrations and mass action by calling on your supporters to take to the streets and now in the form mission and constitution of the coming the little commission you had a big role in it and actually cutty is a man who belonged to a party once under and contested on your partys ticket a constituency in western kenya. You cant possibly be complaining about an Electoral Commission that you had such a big role in constituting you know it is not does the commission and we said it he said that we dont just want to move the commissioners we want to of a whole lot of commission because the rod is not just with this. More inside the secretariat they do believe we refused completely to do that and this Commission Commissioners were coming very late in the day. When the mischief had really been done and this you also see that the time that weve been moving too little too late there if used to move the head of the. Department who are in the turn responsible for the mess there was a that the this is not something that is does that the top in two thousand and seven you say the election was rigged in favor of then president kibaki then called on your supporters to come out and then ensued those postelection unrest that kenya is famous for now. One thousand one hundred People Killed now since august sixty people sixty kenyans have died how many more lives would it take before you politicians come to your senses and agree on something. The events of two thousand and seven a very fortunate and theres still. The memories of the people of this country there kim. Overlooks all injustice because. You are leading but when we divert. When. And just being able to cause live on television stations in the country when the government then ordered all the divisions titians just dont live coverage of the results and then directed the remaining returning of his us to reports through the quarters of the National Intelligence service. Where the results were not doctors and they only known said that mr dingell still leading but im talking about his First Closing the gap at the end when the nuns the book had won the country imploded and the result is what youve just just said that time very unfortunate indeed. Everybody knows in the rooms of the booking office that he lost his election i was then prevailed upon to allow me to cuba to finish his term. And then be content with the position of a Prime Minister which was created in the constitution. Business was imposed on hungary. Understand history of the deliberately did try to distort history youve seen or you became content and said ok im quitting the political scene let this be the it is next time around a majority of can we not go to vote see what way do with my time. So youre saying nothing but fresh elections will convince you not me kenyans majority ok and for the first time on the african continent a president ial election was over ton vessel being caught we dont want to lead the Supreme Court down. They have been disparaged theyve been called names have been called traitors kooks. Criminals who you are stuck them to after the ten to thirteen verdict into you i did not what i said to the team and you going to the archives. I dont agree but i respect the verdict of the Supreme Court how far are you ready to go mr or do you go with this new campaign of use this new mission of us kenyans good one. Convinced that the kenyan spirit the kenyan dream as coined by the Founding Fathers of our nation. Realized eventually to get the leaders that they desire was that i dont think i thank you very much for talking told you thank you. A new level of luxury has arrived. An experience that will transform the way you try. Our Impeccable Service remains but now comes the breaking heat is a. Revolutionary business clients. The old pharmacy for the sea the finest. Weather conducting business or sharing a special journey with us bringing you the best of. The search for that. Someone. Trying so a. Century in the sky introducing. Us to this news. As owens going places together. 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