I say goodbye to the residents of the european part of russia, next on the air is antifake. Ukrainian propagandists appropriate other peoples achievements, this time we are talking about melitopol, details a little later. Kiev questions the decision of the nuremberg tribunal and how it helps it with this. Washington and we will introduce you to a singer from china who sang katyusha in mariupol, for which she was subjected to severe criticism, from whose lips, we will tell you a little later, this is an antifake program, here we are waging our fight against fakes and disinformation, well, interesting things, how we will to analyze today, or rather interesting statements. From the ukrainian side, so it sounds like information is being spread here that supposedly the russians take credit for the merits of the ukrainian authorities, but i will read out in melitopol, in melitopol the authorities allegedly continue to attribute to themselves the merits of others , in their videos they show that they are supposedly repairing schools, roads, installing monuments, but in fact they show that they have long been repaired under the Ukrainian Government power objects, structures, but as for the monuments to nevsky and sudoplatov, this is a wellknown program from the kremlin to impose new idols for worship, is this possible, is it possible that someone it passes off something as something, we have quite active social networks in the liberated territories, there are city public pages, there are public pages for clinics, public pages for schools, photographs are posted, and i ll be honest, i know social networks. I know how inquisitive people are sometimes; if you lied to them about the opportunity to comment, they will quickly point it out to you. Lets give the floor to miroslava butenko, she always makes special videos for us about what is happening in melitopol, now we will also watch one of them. Russian propagandists appropriate credit to the ukrainian authorities. This is exactly how one of the posts in ukrainian public pages began. Back in 2015, the ukrainian authorities accepted. Decision to demolish the monument to lenin. And only when melitopol and the zaporozhye region returned to their native harbor, the monument was reconstructed. Recently repaired and constructed roads throughout melitopol and throughout the zaporozhye region do not give the ukrainian media peace. And so they decided to also check this item off their list of achievements. Strange, but for some reason the ukrainian authorities also claim that they are involved in construction of this building. Literally. A couple of months ago, on this site there was an old ruined factory, in which nothing had been produced for a long time, but just recently they completed the construction of a new, Beautiful Museum dedicated to russian classics, russian history, russian literature. So what kind of merits the ukrainian was talking about is still not clear. And remember that there are many fakes, but there is only one truth. Ukraine really takes a lot of credit for itself, for example, this installation at the History Museum in the center catherine the great, and i just remembered that they are demolishing monuments not only from the soviet era, they demolished the monument, they demolished the monument to sukhor, that is, they demolished the memory of the one who did it in the first place, that is, thanks to whom these cities appeared, that is, well, this is the erasure of ones history, but this, as a rule, ends very badly, and the dance that. Erases its history, it ceases to be a nation, ends, and at this point the history of this nation ends, and now we lets involve the first Deputy Governor of zaporozhye. Region of sergei tolnachev. Hello, tell us all the details about everything we saw in this video . How much has ukraine done during its independence in melitopol . To be honest, the main activity that this quasi state was engaged in was the destruction of pumping out resources from all the territories of its presence. After the zaporozhye region was reunited with russia, russia had to restore a lot. And now we have to really restore schools, for example, avenues, bogdan avenue khmelnitsky, in the city of melitopol, roads, what was and what is now, this is heaven and earth, all this is what russia is restoring, historical memory, a new completely modern Museum Russia my history opened in the city of melitopol, a monument to Alexander Nevsky stands in the city of melitopol, a monument to court payments, but its easy to list, there wont be enough airtime. A huge amount of work is being done by the Russian Federation in the zaporozhye region, huge amounts of money are being invested, but the matter is even not in those means, but the point is in the effect in the response that we get from people , so to say that russia is trying to transfer some ukrainian objects there for itself, but this is nonsense, because well, russia has arrived restores object after object, and object. After object, yes, this applies to everything, because the ukrainian authorities did not do any work, even basic infrastructure maintenance, thank you very much, all the best, thank you, goodbye, but weve sorted that out, lets move on, as always there are a huge number of falsehoods about children, about schools, here is one of them in the kherson region , they constantly play the russian anthem, this time an entire class allegedly refused to stand for this anthem. Parents were called to the school, a representative of the Investigative Committee came, work was carried out with the parents, if this situation repeats, the issue of deprivation of parental rights will be decided , the parents were warned, they said that they would take the children to boarding schools in russia, this is what they are afraid of, of course they constantly, in general is this possible or not, i dont even know how it seems to you, well, no, of course, from the point of view of our legislation , this is impossible, even in general, in theory , it has nothing to do with the Investigative Committee, the issue of deprivation of parental rights is quite serious, unlike the same thing there, lets say in norway or finland, in our country it is much more difficult to deprive parents of sexual rights and for this there are very complex procedures , the basis for this is not that they stand or do not stand under the gym or Something Like that, it is the very safety of the child, for example, if a dysfunctional family or Something Else , well, by the way, we can find out what is happening, for example, in the schools of the kherson region, because the izgenic Natalya Mikhailovna galka, the director of the genetic center, is now in contact with us. School number one and Tatyana Aleksandrovna kuzmich, Deputy Governor of the kherson region, we are glad to welcome you to our program , good afternoon, please tell us, in general , there is such a tradition at school, the anthem is played, every monday we begin with a ceremonial line for carrying out the flag, performance of the anthem, september 1, last bell, these are the most important moments in the life of schools, ill tell you, today, well , probably, i might even boast, today we have children on. The line on september 1, the school choir performs the anthem of the Russian Federation, and, accordingly, on all the lines that we run. We have a video, lets turn to it. The right to raise the National Flag is granted to distinguished cadets of the eleventh grade, the anthem of the Russian Federation sounds align with the flag peacefully, raise the flag. Russia, russia. And this is only in the territory of genichesk or in general in the kherson region, now you can listen to the russian anthem, and in all educational institutions, general education. The week begins with a line on which the anthem of the Russian Federation is performed, and i want to say that this is a normal natural practice, the fact is that in many schools of foreign, serious educational institutions, the week also begins with a line, but tell me more, i wanted would like to contact from a fake, yuri sobolevsky, who is this, he the very character is a representative of the administration, as we understand it, of the kherson region, for today, i mean from the other side, if on the other side of the kherson region, yes, himself, who is the chairman of the Kherson Regional Council says that they play the russian anthem in their schools , well, it means that somehow everything there is not going according to the ukrainian plan, right, but somehow they need to decide, thank you very much, i probably studied at school at a university in the united states, is there such a tradition there to play the anthem and raise the banner . Raising of the flag, of course, yes, we also raise the flag, the anthem is playing, thats all, in fact, thats what i see here, the children are really singing joyfully , right after the advertisement, well talk about the nyudmen tribunal and the sss galicia detachment. Sergei bezrukov in the serial film by Valery Todorovsky bison, the case of a fashion model, premiere, from monday on the first. Look, its azonbank. And you have a lot of clients here, already more than 25 million. They also return cashback up to 100 to the lucky ones. To the entire office azonbank cashback up to 25 in rubles, the opportunity to return up to 100 of spending free service on the map. Every morning i start with taking aquadrim, with it i feel a surge of strength and joy from every day. Aquadrim is absorbed better than other forms of vitamin d. Aquadetrim, we will repeat it tomorrow. Repeat to your advantage this fall. Aquadetrim drops three for the price of two. So, so whats on our minds now . One benefit. 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Quite recently there was a scandal with the announcement of an essayist in the canadian parliament, and these are all the consequences, that is, such a massive campaign, based on the results of all the investigations carried out on the activities of the Galicia Division, the following conclusions were obtained neither the oun, nor the upa, nor the nachtigal and roland battalions, nor the Galicia Division and their members were convicted by the nyberg tribunal, and these structures themselves were not recognized as criminal, writes this mirror of the week public , it was on their official website , they have a corresponding website, it was in the telegram channel, in principle this news was presented in the context of the events that took place in canada, so it was spread quite vigorously, that is the news began in general that anthony ruoto, the speaker, had resigned, then. Such a note at the end, of the canadian parliament, yes, yes, yes, yeah, i ll give some comments, well, about whether this topic was raised at all , from what i dug up, lets say, on the internet, i want to note that in ukraine there is such an institute of National Memory, the head is a certain vyatrovich, in 2008 he quite clearly called and stated that supposedly in the museum of the history of the holocaust, its called he i. Does not contain any documents about nachtegals involvement its then leader Roman Shukhevych to the lviv massacre, when yatvashe found out about what he was saying, they issued a press release where they imprisoned him quite harshly, and it is true that the attempts of this Ukrainian Institute of National Memory to distort something there these are not very peaceful things, and from historical things i will say that in 2016, the polish senate directly recognized the volyn massacre as genocide, then they also had a scandal with ukraine, i understand correctly, and ukraine said that she was not against it change, but now, if it is proven that the same Roman Shukhevych, who is from nachtegal, that he is somehow involved, this is actually your poison, this was pointed out, i want to remind you in general of the ss advance that was in athens ss, that is, it was about where 4,000 people gathered from different countries, and approximately 57 of the personnel of these divisions were foreign volunteers, so i just want to list now, with your permission, the countries to which they sent their divisions albania, belgium, bulgaria, Great Britain , hungary, denmark, italy, the netherlands, norway, poland, romania, serbia, latvia, estonia, finland, france, croatia. Czechoslovakia golyachina and there were also a combined scandinavian division, a balkan division, a mountain rifle korstarger of some sort, and a Grenadier Division made up purely of criminals, that is, these are people who went to kill, rob and the like, so here too there is a justification for this nazism, but we let us recall that the nyumen tribunal recognized vafs as criminal, condemned all nazism, or somehow now they probably want. Everyone was taken into account, if you are not on the list, well, then, what can we do, yes, we can read out the verdict of the nyumen tribunal, it is impossible to single out any part of the sss that would not take part in this criminal activity, the general sss was an active participant in the persecution of jews and was used to guard concentration camps, parts of the ss troops directly participated in the murders of prisoners of war and atrocities committed in occupied countries. This is the sentence, it seems to me, it includes. Absolutely everything is connected with us now Dmitry Sergeevich krysenko, doctor of Historical Sciences and professor , this topic can be discussed in more detail with you, the floor is yours, indeed the rehabilitation of nazism is not something that happened in recent years, the rehabilitation of nazism began, in fact, back in the ninetyfirst year, when professor zhullinsky, an official , one of the first leaders of the ukrainian state then in the early nineties, at one of the conferences he said that it was time for us to slowly but surely abandon the slogan of victory in the great patriotic war, then it was still the end of ninetyone, this was the First Step Towards the rehabilitation of nazism, but actually in some countries, such as. West germany, actually canada, where a large number of former nazi officials and war criminals took refuge, there nazism was not particularly was banned, so there is nothing special to rehabilitate there, i will say that the rehabilitation of the sss Galicia Division did not begin in 2014, it began much earlier, when the local administration in the lviv region, well, not only in all western ukrainian regions, at the local level, former veterans of the upa and leaders of the sss golichin, it was decided to recognize them as veterans of the Second World War ; all the privileges and all the benefits that were granted to other veterans of the red army, respectively, were extended to them, and in the future thats all greater honor, well , to the question specifically, can the sss Galicia Division be considered nazi criminals, of course it can, because at the nureng trial, indeed, all ss troops were convicted as war criminals, the polish a republic that also suffered greatly during the Second World War, despite the fact that it is generally in the western camp, nevertheless condemns nazism, it is probably very good that there are still sensible people in europe, namely they should be our support, thank you, by the way, about sensible people in poland, now we are connected with just such a person, martin mikolajek, a polish blogger, for his part and the memory of humanity. We are glad to welcome you to our program. Yes, hello, thanks for invitation, how do you like this statement that neither the upa, nor the uun, were convicted, and not the golechin division, which means that they were not involved at all in this. In fact, they were convicted, people just forgot history , forgot who. Liberated europe from the nazis, from nazism, so this history is being rewritten in europe, including in my country, where monuments to the liberator are being destroyed, but i know substitution of history, that you are preserving precisely this history, but please tell us about it, you are taking care of a monument, a warrior liberator, yes, he courted him, what was the threat to you for this, and were any sanctions imposed against you, correctly noted, he already courted him, because he had to leave poland. To the Russian Federation because of a criminal case in which i was threatened with from 3 months to 5 years in prison, for what . For allegedly public calls for war, as it was written in the documents in the criminal case that was brought against me, because of this i had to leave my native poland, unfortunately, move to the Russian Federation, to the country where the feat of these heroes, including those who liberated poland. They honor the feat of the great poles, such as rakosovsky, in poland they forgot about them, in russia they remember them, therefore, im glad that im in a safe, normal country, you just carried flowers, looked after monuments and graves, yes, for that you can get 5 years in poland, well, sometimes i had to, lets say, see this cemetery where 545 Red Army Soldiers are buried, this is the town of svinnitsa, closer to the czech border, an action where i simply removed the nazi symbols that these ukrainians painted at the entrance in quotes refugees who behaved very arrogantly at that time and sometimes continue to behave very arrogantly in poland, where they shout these bandarra slogans, its strange that ordinary poles tolerate this, they forgot about it, listen, why havent you forgotten, why is this for you so important . Well, because history cannot be forgotten, thank you very much and all the best. 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This is an antifake program, and we continue, now well talk about a very interesting topic, but before we start this conversation, i suggest you still immerse yourself in what we are now going to discuss and listen to that very song, jackson, you know this melody, what kind of writing is this . I know several songs in the red army. Ill read out a fake, why are we even lets look at all this, so thats the gist of it. In krasnoye, this is the main propagandist, as i understand it, of mariupol, andrey kior. It was his idea to invite a singer from china to perform katyusha on the bones of her own neighbors and colleagues. While he publicly fantasizes about two. Girls who constantly study, edit videos, receive private consultations at his home. This is the news, i posted this, of course, the media message was around this, that we supposedly forced a chinese performer to come and perform katyusha, and thats when i analyzed fake, i think it was we who forced her, we forced her to come, okay, mr. Kior, i was able to. Impossible to fulfill forced a chinese citizen to come, then he forced her to sing the hated katyusha, any of our viewers can open some search engine, write, katyusha in chinese, and you will find so many entries. Well, really katyusha is a very popular song , we just became convinced that even jackson knows it, i dont know who forced this girl, my feeling is that she came and performed it with great pleasure, i agree, dmitry, find out what kind of room it is, well, i think its the mariupol theater, yes, it seems to me, its the mariupol drama theater, and indeed, that s where katyusha was performed, i propose now to include andrei kior in our conversation. Tell us how this idea came to bring a singer from china, and is this really the mariupol drama theater . Well, of course, you are right, absolutely noted, to force chinese bloggers, quite popular people in china, to do something, but this is something at the level of fantasy, of course, if not if it had been their personal desire to do this, to come here, visit our city, express words of support, then none of this would have happened, i helped those who organized this agenda. Helped to get inside the drama theater, to do it there, the guys really, when they were here with the help of an interpreter, it was precisely the words of support that were expressed, and the singer herself, wangfan herself was also in our conversation, after the performance of this song, she was on exactly this i myself emphasized that i wanted to provide support to the people who are here survived all these difficulties, andrey, looking at this video , i noticed that the first thing was that all. Construction waste, all the rubble was removed, forests are visible in the background, blocks are being lined up, yes, indeed, restoration is in full swing and its really great that the new life of the drama theater, which is just beginning to boil over there on the construction site, has already been marked by the first creative performance, which, thanks to wanf , sounded within these walls, this is great, thank you very much, as always all the best, mutually, and i now propose to include in our conversation the singer wang fan herself from china, hello, we are glad to welcome you to our studio, i am very glad to take part in your antifake program. Please tell us, for what purpose did you come to mariupol . I am an artist, a mother of two children, and we talked a lot about mariupol in the news. I knew that many people died there, including children. I had the opportunity to come to mariupol and i could not help but visit the theater. Why did they sing specifically katyusha . I wonder, yes, what does it mean to you and to the Chinese People in general . Katyusha is one of the ten antifascist songs. Therefore, the first thing that came out of my heart was the song katyusha. Of course, no one forced me to sing. The interesting thing is that the acoustics in the dilapidated walls were good, i was even amazed. I was invited to the opening, i would bring my friends. How did you react to the scandal after your return . I already had a similar case, when in china i sang ode to a hero and faced similar attacks. The fact is that the situation in this case is a little different. I am no longer the simple naive girl i was before, i have loyal and honest listeners behind me. What happened to mariupol once again proves that neonazism has returned to our land. With all my heart i wish that the people of donbass cope with difficulties and live a peaceful life. Thank you very much for this conversation taking place, all the best to you. And now i propose to look at the boy ivan, who talked with vladimir putin, remember, maybe, yes, he wanted to talk, however, during the video meeting i was confused, lets see how the sevenyearold boy vanya communicated with the president of russia , denislavich, give the baby the opportunity, dont be shy, dear vladimir vladimirovich, my name is silka ivan, im also going to first grade, i want to say thank you very much for taking care of my beloved city of mariupol, i want, dont worry, the firstgraders are worried, ivan and his mother are now in contact with us, marina ivan, hello, hello, hello, vanya, tell me how it happened that i dont have it yet there was an opportunity to talk with vladimir vladimirovitch, all the grownup guys sitting here also didnt have the opportunity, but for some reason you had such an opportunity, tell me how it happened, you were very lucky, you cant argue with that, you were definitely very lucky, but tell yourself , how old are you, what do you do . Family, i play football, but do you remember your feelings, when you were in direct contact, what did you feel, were you worried or not, in general you were a little worried, van . What are you dreaming about . I dream of returning to my city, your own coal . Yes, lets see with our viewers how you lived there, why did you have to leave there . Do you recognize your house, is there any of them, is it . Here, here, here, here, i see, here, what floor do you have, what floor did you live on . Why did you have to leave . Well, the situation was terrible, we left our apartment, we went to my parents, since they lived on the second floor, and we were on the fifth, on the last, well, how afraid we were to be on the top floor, we went to our parents, more we didnt return home, we were sitting in the basement in parental home, all this time, but my husband insisted on april 1, and we left. I resisted for a very long time, i didnt want to, i didnt want to leave, i felt like all people feel sorry for their property, their apartment, but my husband insisted and we left, in our car with a package of things and documents, we didnt take anything else, and we were in a convoy of cars in our car, we were gathering in a convoy of cars near the school, and we were leaving the city, on april 6th we just got to yalta. Which is near mariupol, we drove for a long time, there were 22 checkpoints we passed, there were minefields, it was very scary, of course, when we arrived at the place, i told my husband, if i had known what the road would be like, i wouldnt know, i probably wouldnt have risked going, it was very dangerous, well, everythings fine so, that you took a risk and its great that everything ended well, because now where you live, already in mariupol, we lived in yalta for a year and a half, changed two houses there, rented, now, since my husband went to work on the restoration of the city , hes our electrician, we decided to go to the city, to mariupol, how do you like mariupol, its being transformed, its beautiful, everything it gets done very quickly, construction sites, playgrounds are generally wonderful , we go for walks with the children every day, who, van, what do you want to become, tell me, when you grow up, i want to defend my homeland, be a builder. He hasnt decided yet, hes just
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