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Lift me a certificate about the behavior of the pastor of the hose in prison. Everything about his character about his contacts conversation with gravity prisoners in a word maximum details the answer we had prepared, an hour later, turned out to be highly unexpected. He was released from prison in february 1945. And i will make it impossible to understand whether he agreed to work for the sd or his release was the result of some other incomprehensible reasons, there was only an oral directive from schellenberg. There was only a verbal directive from schellenberg to release the pastor under stirlitz observation. Its almost everything. It is also known that a special agent of the sixth directorate worked after his release, where his material was in direct contact with the fusion standard no records, interests, operations were conducted. Well, so that only three people know about it, you, me and him, the big game is on air in ukraine, intense battles continue. The options for a settlement in nigeria are still being discussed, and the collective west has not yet canceled the possibility of some kind of military intervention, while in moscow a forum army 2023, in the context of which there is also a conference on International Security. And i must say that at this conference, from my point of view , some quite important statements were made , the statement was made by the russian leadership and, first of all, by president putin, lets listen. Strange nato members continue to build up and modernize their offensive capabilities, they are making attempts to transfer military confrontation to outer space and Information Space , use military and nonmilitary means pressure. And all this is happening against the background of the destruction of the arms control system. The United States is striving, among other things, to reformat the system of interstate interaction that has developed in the asiapacific region for itself. The promotion of the socalled induspacific strategies is essentially aimed at creating militarypolitical associations controlled by washington. We do not rule out that the matter is being led to the full integration of nato forces by the blocs structures being created august obviously, tensions are smoldering in other regions of the world and while security challenges. Each of them have their own characteristics, i repeat, in fact. All of them are generated by geopolitical adventures by selfish noncolonial actions. Of the west lets carefully analyze what president putin said. He spoke not only and not so much in this case about the war in ukraine. Not only and not so much about how europe took up arms against russia, but he spoke about the creation of a Global Coalition that advocates and the expansion of western hegemony, not only in europe but and in the asian theatre, but involving japan, e, south korea, australia, zeeland, and so on. And so i want to ask you Andrey Denisov uh, senator. First vice chairman of the International Affairs committee that this is the federation in the past. Went out in china and the first vice minister of foreign affairs. I wanted to ask andrey here from the point of view of a historical perspective. You may remember here is the creation of this kind of Global International coalition, when in general this coalition does not have a clearly defined enemy and in fact is engaged in what is not recommended by the founding fathers. In america, looking for demons all over the world. You have seen the precedents. Thats because whats happening now. Yes, perhaps not, perhaps not, but on the other hand. After all, we have not seen precedents and the International Situation that has developed now, it does not resemble anything in the past, arose. Uh, explosive situations. The world experienced two world wars in the 20th century. Uh, coalitions were formed. Were there, uh, allied groups, or what used to be called an axis or Something Like that . Well, like this really strange education. We are 50 led by america against the whole world and at the same time there is no one among these fifty. Who would be willing to even take a step away from uh, what is called the mainstream from the general line determined by the leader, that is, uh, the United States of america, uh, you know, that reminds you of that. Sorry for that, of course. Uh, a sweeping comparison, but the flock of otars sheep, when they put it down, and shepherds or shepherds let it in there. Excuse the goat that all these sheep obediently follow. Here it is for that and sent there. Here is what we see now, on the other side of the barricades. Very reminiscent. Sorry. On this picture, everything went to explore for one felt. Uh, absolutely absolutely attuned to this single line, no, so to speak, step aside and in an ultimatum form, because the world majority, which numerically significantly exceeds us, you all kinds of mountains. Who will weaken the attempts of the countries . To say that we are neutral we are countries uh whom William Burns hmm the cia called agin middle. Yes, undecided, the middle. Here , according to the americans, there should be no undecided middle ground; everyone should stand on their side of the barricades for the sake of this, and those forms that have passed recently are gathering. Well, the extreme one is arabia from here, and here, against this background, against this background, is the conference on International Security issues, which opened today, by the way, i was present at it and just arrived from it. She sounds perfect. Uh, well, you can say dissonance conditions, dissonance. There is some such. Uh, negative channeling is completely purely positive, this is a calm conversation. This is a minimum or no pathos at all, this is a cold analysis and at the same time the arrangement of all points over it was determined. It is very interesting that you said that in general you actually answered the question that i wanted to ask you this question was not chopped up. But thats good. This is pathos. Eh, the collective west has enough. I hope you wont argue with this. Russia, of course, makes very tough statements. Well, besides, we lets talk about it with the general, drunk. Russia not only speaks, but also does a lot of things to russia, but quite successfully, but i dont know about you, but i have a feeling that, in general, russia does not say endless confrontations with the collective west, and what if russian concerns , primarily in the field of security, would be taken into account . As i understand it, moscow would be ready to conduct serious negotiations, despite all this indignation at the behavior of the west, which both the russian people and the russian leading circles. Eh, and even more so. I dont know how to put it, such a peaceful mood, and i personally heard the ministers speech today. Defense of china deprive. Lets listen. Changdu, we need to support each other against the military hegemony of those who stick their noses everywhere. We need solidarity and mutual assistance to boycott the sanctions pressure from those who do not shun in any way the sinorussian relations of comprehensive partnership and strategic interaction, entering the new era , sinorussian relations continue to develop progressively. In the military sphere, they are a model of not joining blocs by nondirection against third parties and the absence of confrontation, but i dont know if you agree with me again, but on the one hand, this speech struck me, well, an unusually placed chinese representatives. Well, if you want concreteness in condemning the actions of the collective west, but on the other hand, continue to say that he is not joining the fact that china does not looking for no confrontation. And even if you dont need them, they dont get crushed, so i have a question. But what explains this paphos in the collective west, and paphos which is not provoked by russian or chinese actions. At least from my point of view. Well, you know how it can be explained, but it seems to me, if you put it like that in simple terms with weak cards in your hands, because, uh, the west repeats a mantra, in which, it seems to me, it does not believe itself. Just the other day i was at an International Conference in Southeast Asia and there those those who take the position of the west, uh, said, for example, and repeat it like a mantra that we must do everything so that, uh, peace in ukraine will be achieved on the terms of ukraine, this is repeated like a mantra. You know, i want to go up to these people and ask. Well, would you believe in it, would you . In principle, you allow this option. No, it seems to me, they do not allow, but they talk about it in this way paphos adds. Well, lets put it this way, we have the arguments, uh, we have the one on the other side, how, by the way, to say about general eleshantovich. He uh really spoke quite harshly, but at the same time, at the same time, he indicated chinas readiness to find a solution. As a matter of fact, we are, uh, in the same position. Its just that if earlier, in order to find solutions, we had to somehow adapt a little to the opponent, now we dont have such a need for ears, china, all the more, in principle, we dont, our positions are quite strong, and we pronounce them openly and directly. Lieutenant general yevgeny buginsky, you also know the collective world very well. The west has repeatedly faced with western representatives very highranking. I am a civilian soldier. And so i, uh, want to ask you, not even so much now, but western ones, but about the russian position. Right now, uh, ukraine is openly using cluster warheads. Not only are they openly using it, they are actually boasting about it and washington is saying that there is no problem with this, because, uh, the United States insisted on all precautions , meaning that these cluster warheads do not strike russian territory, but there is, as they say one little nuance. By russian territory they mean what they think should be the territory of russia and what russia thinks and what russia actually controls, including crimea. Its the United States that ukraine has every right to attack, including with cluster warheads. And now, lets see how Russian Defense minister generalegov answered this today. Before , us officials have repeatedly said that the use of cluster munitions is a war crime ; today, washington, its accomplices are committing this crime in ukraine condemned by humanitarian organizations, as expected no . I would like to draw attention to the fact that we also have cluster munitions in service. Until now, for humanitarian reasons, we have refrained from using them. However, this decision may be reconsidered. Well, i understand the humanitarian considerations, they are very important. And especially when you say, to the fraternal ukrainian people and of course , russia has serious disagreements with this people, at least with a significant part, but very much many people, well, ukraine has friends and relatives, and my parents are both of them, but they were born in ukraine, so to speak, lets put it mildly, not quite a foreign land, but nonetheless. Well, as it were, i watch how the destructive potential of the Ukrainian Armed forces is increasing day by day. And more and more they use it against russian territories and , by the way, not only against crimea, but also against kaluga, kursk, belgorod and moscow, this is how it should be interpreted, and humanitarian considerations dmitry, you know, you can literally half a minute to answer your first question about the creation of blocks. Do you know at all . This is the maximum that history develops in a spiral, it is absolutely correct. You will remember the 1950s, when the cold war began, nato was formed, at the same time, the seat of the Southeast Asia Treaty Organization was formed there, the same bloc, the same members headed by the United States. Now the same thing is happening, in fact, it is already happening. It started, so i think that these blocks they will form, and then the United States refrained from stretching. With that bloc of south korea and japan, now, taking into account their economic weight, the state of the armed forces , they will naturally be involved and, uh, natos link with the uh, created by the americans in the Asian Pacific region, from my point of view, is inevitable. Now answering yours. Ah, the main question. You know me so far. I have the impression that we are fighting without filming. Here are the so called uh, gloves, its time to take them off , you know, cluster munitions. Uh, its them the effect is not so, uh, significant on the advancing troops. By the way, the use of cluster munitions. E from the point of view. So to say military art and military science. They should, uh, be used to a greater extent by the defending side, that is, with us, because if we want to destroy , you, especially in open areas, advancing troops, then cluster munitions, of course, are the weapons that achieve maximum effect on defending troops, of course, there is also an effect, but it is significant. When the defending troops are there in trenches dugouts in shelters. Uh uh, efficiency. E is much lower, so the ukrainians use them mainly against the civilian population. They are shelling the donbass , they are shelling peaceful cities. And uh, there are numerous, of course. And here is the delayed effect. By the way, uh, they go left over to the americans at the beginning of the conflicts. Yes , even before the start of the conflict, they fired at these cluster supplies, equipped with e, point rockets and fired at the same, donetsk, e, these cases are documented in our committee. Eh, there is a jer. A significant casualty among the civilian population, there are a lot of cases when, uh, ukraine well, not that many cases, but these constant attacks on the crimean bridge, uh, shelling of uh peaceful russian cities, and not military installations. But it really is. Uh, we hit either military facilities or critical infrastructure, and they hit the civilian population, and we dont answer. And why . But i dont know. You understand, but this is a political decision, because from the point of view of even the same logistics of the same supplies. Uh, the same armored artillery missiles, well, there are four tunnels in the carpathians. Uh, railroad bridge several locomotive depots. Well, destroy it and uh, the efficiency and speed of the supply of uh american weapons of military equipment will drop by a multiple. The same port infrastructure. I believe that the entire port infrastructure. Uh , ukraine, uh, on the black sea should be destroyed, then they will not be totally. Thats what russia has such militarytechnical capabilities, of course there is, but it is to conduct an offensive air operation in the waters of the black sea are, well, a section of air defense in ukraine, but in this area, which, so to speak , is able to get our e, bombers, which e use very effectively, these glide bombs, equipped with an e module, a planning module. Eh, its completely, so to speak, a natural option, plus we have such a range of the same calibers and aviation missiles. Uh, 101 101. We all have all these stings. I m not talking about a dagger anymore, everything is there and we hit, but a port infrastructure, but purely its military part, but you need to hit everything, to avoid these drones. Uh, surface, which they, unfortunately, successfully attacked for the last time. The crimean bridge is subject to all this and there is no need to be shy here. I already spoke once in this studio at the beginning of the conflict, the americans say, we cannot understand. Why are you, uh, being so selective . Alexander dugin eh, philosopher eh, and the author, i would say, is the very basis of the suggestive and at the same time original works on geopolitics. Here is a rumor, uh general burinsky, and i absolutely agree with him. At least on an emotional level, like me it seems that you and i are starting to think on an emotional level. Uh, as an analyst im starting to think. And here, what are the arguments against what the general wants to do. I want to do. What arguments can be given to not do this list. Why it would be dangerous to do this, what countermeasures could be taken and in general, the escalation of the war against the entire collective west well, probably not in the interests of russia, but then they start to think, but what is the alternative and thats what im starting to fear alexander that in order to escape escalation we risk what were on in fact, we will contribute to the escalation, because if the enemy has the feeling that they can raise the stakes all the time with impunity a bitter experience. And if they do, knowing the nature of the russian leadership, and the russian people, i think that the answer will be, but only maybe later and after great losses and with greater risks than would be necessary if, in general, they decided that works it takes its time. I absolutely agree with you. I think there is. Uh, some very specific lines. Let it not be red, just here are the lines of analysis and, uh, there is one line that can be considered a real scalade. If we make a strike with Tactical Nuclear weapons on some very important object. This, in my opinion, is a real escalation; everything that is below this bar for delivering a Tactical Nuclear strike at one point or another on the territory of ukraine ; while we use conventional weapons. We can do anything. And here it arises. Escalation chimera. There are real escalations. This is the use of chiau, which can easily switch tactical weapons in favor of Strategic Nuclear weapons. This is serious and this is an escalation. I think that, in principle, and her. Uh, the fear of her is even slightly increased. Although i still believe that this is really a threshold , thats all that is below this threshold. We can use it at any time without any consequences. Moreover, you said a very important phrase that if we do not use it, we provoke the enemy to do it. Escalation for our part in onesided january, and we invite practically provoke. Thats practically provocative, because we, uh, they dont count. E that we have some rules, some kind of logic. They think we can or cant we are strong or we are weak as soon as we show any hint of weakness, and between the use of Tactical Nuclear weapons and a full response to all these uh, antics of our enemys attacks , there is still a huge territory of unused opportunities for us, when we dont use them the enemy will think that we cannot do this, we are afraid. They begin to escalate the conflict. They fire it up. They are pulling him up. They create the feeling of their western sponsors that this is unthinkable, truly from the point of view of the reality of the idea of ​​​​the victory of ukraine, which is simply impossible under any circumstances, this is a very close goal. In my opinion, and the general is absolutely right , it seems to me that we should get together and, for example, some kind of military territory or some technical infrastructure between the military just with hysteria on the face of the earth, and not only some separate warehouse or a separate separate air Defense Center well, some kind of port, for example, so that this port does not exist. In principle, that is, it is not necessary, they kill our citizens, citizens attack our civilians. Yes, its just not necessary to answer, but if there are many goals that we have for some reason. I also dont quite understand why we dont, uh, cover up, which could be perfectly legitimate under these conditions without any danger of escalation by our goals. And right here. I think, there is. Uh, one thing is humanity, for example, not to strike at the civilian population, especially in a mass gathering. This is absolutely correct and justified. Its our spirit, its our ethics, and thats how our leadership is waging these wars of action. This is absolutely correct and justified. But there is on the other side. Now there is definitely a need for a very, er, serious lesson to teach our enemy without any Tactical Nuclear weapons. Heres to it in my opinion. We must now be directed. They use cluster bombs. They increase range the missiles they supply are attacked almost daily. Now the crimean bridge is our any objects. I think its time to give a serious lesson, that is, something must somehow be truly destroyed on the territory of the enemy, and the lesson, so far, we have not given any, except for the first. So, when we kind of started our own, we taught a lesson that you cant talk to us like that. We will answer differently, we answered, and now it seems to me that the matter behind the second lesson is no less important than the first. We have shown that we can enter the territory, and how to conduct, there is a significant transformation geopolitically. Now its time for the second lesson, and on ours, but on our declarations on our threats on our calls for some kind of escalation or some kind of softer solution. They definitely wont pay attention. This is perceived as a weakness. They say you do not beat us, the second time the second. Uh, the second strike of the second wave is unbearable to not allow. If you cant, then you are weak, then you have nothing. So we are going on a counteroffensive, and they will be this circuit, the offensive is precisely this absence, fear the absence of a retaliation strike of a fullfledged retaliation strike to fuel. It seems to me that the time has come to say that having said, and now the time has come to do something so essential that it is impossible to hide it. Behind silence it is impossible to show it as their victory is impossible so that, well, as if for real in the eyes of uh, the enemy has darkened , really darkened. Do we have this general . If not, well, the general says that there are yes, of course, then the question is already degenerals. If there is, then there are no questions lethal good. I have a question for filmmakers. Lets get back. Uh, really outstanding filmmaker and uh in addition to this ceo and ukraine you know i love to ask you. Questions that concern, if you want the spirit of mood what does the people want and what is ready to support the people . And, of course, now the authorities, from my point of view, quite reasonably , by and large, want the people to have a feeling of the most normal life, they dont want to sacrifice social benefits, they dont want the opportunity to sacrifice Education Health care and therefore when thinking about the possible consequences. Here are some sharp movements of radical steps of retaliatory enemies from russia or the authorities. It seems to me that there is a legitimate concern that, firstly, this may harm the standard of living of a significant part of the population and, in addition, that the people may not understand this and expose it. Well, you know , there are times when you still need to make up your mind, because it seems to me that this is what we are talking about today. Uh, but i think its an internal state. Russian idea in of this situation, that somehow, maybe it will still come to some kind of compromise, and how it will all form and return. Everything, in general , is more or less about the same, but you understand, uh, and therefore, when Andrei Ivanovich says that your western colleagues are so confident, they are confident not because they are afraid, but because they are confident because they think they can win this problem if two fighters enter the ring and one of them demonstrates. The desire to play a draw, then the second one finishes him off, especially when it comes to the west, which, as it were , matures on this, when you said that restraint sometimes provokes an escalation. They are perceived as restraint, but i completely agree with a skarren georgievich that this is perceived as weakness . And here s more to say. I will not beat my partner in the ring because he has children, for example, i do not want to beat him. It doesnt count. As a matter of humanity. All, in principle, no. I have alexander yurievich yes , i agree with him. I think we talk about it so much, but somehow in its still, i as i understand it, no matter how hard to believe that there the task is to destroy us. Together with the elite, by the way, i dont think its, well, together with the elite , i dont want to believe in it, i dont want to believe it. How did you not believe . The jews during the time, so to speak, there until the 41st year in germany they thought that it was so , strictly speaking, like, like, well, this can not be. Well, this cannot be. Its just the politics of these antisemitic statements. Yes, kristallnacht, even so to speak. And its like this couldnt believe it, but its obvious here. You have to believe it, the United States is the second rome. I dont consider byzantium the second rome in the United States the second rome and , as they say, like rome is absolutely merciless, where it achieves its goals, their goal will destroy us, therefore, for the bottom in order in order to really participate in such a struggle, apparently, some serious internal changes must be undertaken. I understand you, that you respectfully, i treat the decision of our government, it seems, but we need to change the economic model obviously. Im not saying that you need to go to the soviet one. Well, obviously a lot, and a lot needs to be changed in the life of the country in order to withstand this blow. By the way, i think the chinese, when you spoke, here is the speech of the minister of defense. China is quite possible, they feel it, thats why she acts like this with us, thats why he is in such a way, as if he, as it were, there is a kind of nod to our position in this. Here is our minister of defense saying that we are here for humane reasons. Not this, well, what should the chinese minister say and well, he says, well yes, we are ready too. Well, yes, a compromise. Its probably possible, but, but it seems to me that this is, uh, our people. It seems to me that the majority will understand this , it is clear that there is some part of society that does not accept, that is ready to give up everything. All. This is understandable, but most people will understand. Shes just not very good. I think he understands this, why . Cluster fights are not used when they are and when to say it, we already hear a statement, so to speak, of our military correspondents about that they are, but they increase the number of losses, among our fighters, officers really increase and inflict serious injuries. And why dont we do it. This is for our people, i think this is not very, understandable, this is humanism. Its me, im a humane person, but strictly guys, then you dont have to start anything at all. Here it is, as they say. Why is this such a story . As they say, if you want to fight in your heart, then you need to understand that we are really talking about the existence of our country and everything that the americans do. Theyre just on my mind feel it and here they are, as if surrounding us from all sides, in fact, they offer the world. Choice we will finish off russia and you will live under our leadership, but you will live decently. We promise you this. And this dualism is present in everything, and about 10 years ago, at the beginning of the 2000s, i was asked to speak at one fairly important meeting in moscow , and this was based on articles that i published then in america, where i said that what is perceived in america as restraint of passions, but only encourages, american globalists. And what uh . In general, moscow should understand. And what if you dont make it clear in the collective west , first of all in washington what could be the price of all this increasing pressure on russia . That all this can turn out very badly for those chairing this meeting. He said dmitry i understand your feelings. And to us, of course, when you come from washington and say that, its very nice to hear. Well you know what you said you want us to be alone all alone if we go after all these steps. Who will support us, we will be alone, true, he immediately said, one participant in the meeting, but immediately said. Well, he says, im sorry, but we will be one in terms of relations between the United States and part of europe , and as for china , india will be completely different , they dont speak to latin america. No less. I think you will agree that a significant part of the elite. In general, there was a feeling, especially Foreign Policy. What if russia decides to take on such a challenge . Maybe its not according to the rank of russia that it will try to raise the weight, which in their capabilities does not seem to you that the remnants of this kind of sentiment, and today still exists in elite Foreign Policy circles. Well, i would not say so, because the situation is just changing, what you were talking about took place. It is at least 10 years old. And maybe even more. And then there was a completely different country. Uh, there were other countries that are quite close to us now. In any case, they declared themselves differently on international arena. I mean, first of all, some india and a fairly wide range of countries, which are dozens here. Well, we ourselves have changed. To be honest, i would not say that in our elite there are already such strong moods, that this is how the increase said they are strong, but the phenomena take place. Well, its quite scary, perhaps, because its not carefully the wall, yes, which just twitched and everything and the situation changed, but i would like to say something, e political science, no matter how strange it sounds. Its science exact enough exact everything has its own definitions, or at least schemes. There is, for example, such a concept. Eh, the toynbe paradigm, tonby Arnold Toynbee is an english historian, er, and philosopher. Eh, the essence of this paradigm is very simple, if so simplified. Eh, if a blow is dealt to you, then you need to respond with a no less strong blow, and if possible, with a stronger one, because a less powerful blow provokes the opposite side quickly. Yes, yes, and quickly quite right, but delivering a new blow. So thats the whole point. You have rightly pointed out the whole question. In time. It seems to me so. This is a big game. We go out to the advertisement, well be back, literally in a few minutes Denis Shmyhal , the Prime Minister of ukraine, became the author of the destruction of the Ukrainian Orthodox church , it is defended patiently. And im sure we ll see results. Why are they taking ours . The shrine of our shrines twice met with the pope of the orthodox church. Why is it necessary, in order to free up the field of activity for the unian people as much as possible, and at this time they are pulling the last blood from the pockets of people for the crime of taxes, but also a huge sale of ukraine they remained zelensky trafficked in children. Alive, which are brought to europe and dismantled there for organs. We, gar , also have something to do with this, of course. 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Hello father. See you soon serve by contract. There is a big game on the air. We continue our conversation. About the danger of escalation and the other side of the coin of danger being afraid to respond to the escalation of another country and in the process cause damage to their own country alexander you know , i think that the senator is absolutely right that in this case, firstly, we are already afraid of escalation. There is absolutely nothing all the escalation that we could get on you from the other side, we are getting it further already in this regard. I think that the fears of the person who said that we alone will not pull a confrontation with the west, in part, are we really cant do it alone. Well , look, small ukraine is relatively small, but when she imagines a conflict with big russia , she understands that she will not win the waterball on her own. What does she do if she wants to defend her nazi regime from us , she turns to a stronger one and something is already working out, that is, now it may be that we are alone in the confrontation with the west completely west and will not stand it. But there is a multipolar world. There are those possibilities, we can also turn over the head of the west to to humanity, what are we actually doing at this conference the army, 223, which is called strategic strategic design, in fact, of the multipolar world , whom putin is addressing today, he is addressing those countries, those blocs, those civilizations, which were also involved in tonby, which may not be so rigidly oppose america and the west, but in fact, he is completely unprepared to accept them for hegelmony. That is, we can also expand our potential. We can also increase our capabilities many times over. And another very important factor some cases such small countries as relatively. A small north korea or iran demonstrates that it is possible to resist the whole world, including the west and us and other large neighboring powers, if they have an internal spiritual burning, if there is mobilization, if there is determination and the will to defend their sovereignty, their own and their own systems values, look, but they are much smaller than we are here. Here, it seems to me, examples of inspiration are not afraid of anything, to win, to gather to win this war to the west. I think i need to stop paying attention. Really. Heres a question for the west. These are nuclear weapons. We use nuclear weapons. Then we really need to take them into account. Unused nuclear weapons, we are no longer interested in them. We must liberate ukraine, and after that , start to know, begin to engage in a Peace Agreement , build the architecture of a multipolar world , stop in this process, uh, we cannot. Thats what youre talking about, we cant hesitate. We cannot speak. Now we are not now we will now threaten to use cluster aa charges, and then we will use them. Here is the stretch. This is this timing this aspiration. Well, not now without an endless threat. We have exhausted this resource. First of all, it doesnt work. He is unproductive. It is counterproductive, it weakens us, and on the contrary, it encourages the enemy. I think its time to act decisively. Here we are russians. We have our own sovereignty. We have our own interests. We have our own values. Uh, and we start ah it protect, at any cost, in principle, following the example of little north korea at any cost. And whoever we meet on the way will not be good. It seems to me that we are now a little losing the initiative in the matter of demonstrating russian power, russian power and power in general in big politics in International Affairs. This is the most important factor, sometimes you need to demonstrate it. Absolutely fuck the americans. Sometimes they even show it too much. They invade countries. They sweep away the regimes, but for what in the end even though everyone thinks that they are just afraid of them, and here we are doing the sacred work of protecting, in fact, our own sovereignty. I think its time. Heres to carry yourself like a real sovereign civilization. This is our territory. This is our presentation. This is our zone of influence, and we will introduce ourselves here as we see fit. If someone wants to object to something, please go to the battlefield. This is my idea and i think that this is exactly what we would like to do and see our people in our society, no one will say. Oh what terrible militaristic. Ah, birches. We are already at war. We have already started it. We are already here to be even worse, worse, maybe yes, we used weapons, there is no man of mankind. If not, this is the worse one, we have nothing to fear. Just victory only victory general i take my hat off to you because you are one of the few people who very accurately predicted what would happen with the ukrainian offensive and how uh to combine uh russian u capabilities first of all air superiority and uh, good powerful echeloned defense will not allow Ukrainian Development offensive. You were absolutely right. But now, after all, another question is worth one thing. To defend is another thing to attack. Russia has such opportunities, of course it does, because, well, firstly , in order to advance, uh, you need to, uh, wear out decently. Now, if we attack, we will really have a counteroffensive, because now ukraine is advancing and there is no counteroffensive from their side. They are advancing we are in active defense. And we wear down the enemy. And we already by uh. Thats already from june 4 to today. We exhausted them enough 40 you, well, i operate with the figures that the minister of defense voiced. Uh, a few days ago, still 40,000. Uh, killed uh wounded, probably the same number of lost and Armored Vehicles artillery and aviation equipment. Eh, everything, it is. Uh, after that reserve. We have too. Eat. Uh, here, apparently, we are not introducing, so to speak, the main reserves yet. They are somewhere obviously in the operational depth. After that, a grouping is created and er, the offensive begins. I think thats what why did ukraine fail with its offensive . And firstly, because they are uh hmm well, uh, i dont want to repeat myself, but this is the mantra that was prepared by the United States of Great Britain yesterday. I also spoke here, uh, on one program, and they showed a story about how the uk teaches ukrainians to conduct, uh, a landing operation with a landing on the beach. Well, i immediately had a question, when after the fortyfourth year. Uh, britain landed on the beach, but not no i remembered this and how they can teach the americans to steal the same thing. Here, the ukrainians have adopted the american, uh, american concept of warfare, when an officer sits at a command post. E, somewhere in the operational depth and ee gives, so to speak, instructions to people who are directly on the line of contact, and those units. Uh, the jewish officer sergeants lead well, maybe this concept has the right to exist, but this requires a completely different quality level of training sergeant, but they dont have this ukraine , after all, so to speak, they still have a service and we, unfortunately, dont have that either. With us, uh, he is switching to this system of training junior commanders, but all the same, our officers are directly in charge of the battle. And, uh, they manage quite successfully, so i consider the potential. We have an industry that works very well. Uh, moreover, the pace of development of new types of weapons, especially drones, is amazing. After leaving the army, i worked in a concern that deals with unmanned, but systems and then it was quite clear that we were lagging behind, and we were well behind, especially in attack drones. And so, starting with e. Actually, at first we had such operations. And that the americans are even impressed with the efficiency of our lancets is almost 100 , they they simply cannot believe that this is possible, so i repeat once again. We have the ability to carry out offensive operations. There are funds, there are reserves, and i hope that we will carry out this operation in the fall. Karen you know whats in the beginning next year, russia will increasingly join the Election Campaign , which is very important for the future of russia. Well, what do you think, what will be the reaction of the population, and not only in moscow and st. Petersburg, where life is still. In general, normal. I wanted to say relatively normal or not, relatively, but just normal. But when you think about many other areas, where , as it were, everything is not so simple and so not so unambiguous. Heres how you can step into the Election Campaign. And at the same time go on a largescale offensive, which will difficult. I think you will agree with this. Well, you know, i think that first of all, of course, thats its a specially military operation. Strange as it may seem, or maybe its not strange at all, thats the way it should be. She, as it were, exposed a lot of problems that exist in our society. They need to be solved and they must not be hidden, so to speak, but solved. We talked a lot about the problems of the judiciary , unfair, there are some cases that are very common. This is what causes the people today, so to speak, to hesitate. It causes loss when trust in power. It is very dangerous not only judicial, so to speak. Here is a case in dagestan yes, this explosion is already terrible, we bring dagestanis, of course, our condolences. Well, directly sergey melikov, who is known, who is a very worthy person. The head says, well, wine is this greed. Well, it takes melikov just for everyone. What post he the head of the head of dagestan read today, he directly said about it , you know, well, so to speak, uh, that is. Well, here are the moments. They are extremely. On my negative view didnt mean that someone paid a bribe for it. And that they saved money where it was impossible to save

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